The Electoral system
 

In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

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Broken in your view, not in mine.

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

The Electoral system
 

Sierra fisher wrote:
Broken in your view, not in mine.


California has a population (2003 estimate) of 35,484,453, and 55
electoral votes. That comes to 1.5x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

Wyoming has a population of 439,479 (2002 estimate) and 3 electoral
votes. That comes to 6.8x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

A voter in Wyoming has 4.5 times the voting power of a voter in
California in a Presidential election. That's wrong in my book.

If Kerry had carried Ohio, and it was close, the Republicans would be
screaming for reform of the electoral system.

In the original Constitution, slaves were counted as 3/5 of a person in
national elections. That was a compromise to get the Southern states to
ratify. That was wrong, and it was later corrected. The Constitution is
a living document.

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The Electoral system
 

Sierra fisher wrote:
Broken in your view, not in mine.


California has a population (2003 estimate) of 35,484,453, and 55
electoral votes. That comes to 1.5x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

Wyoming has a population of 439,479 (2002 estimate) and 3 electoral
votes. That comes to 6.8x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

A voter in Wyoming has 4.5 times the voting power of a voter in
California in a Presidential election. That's wrong in my book.

If Kerry had carried Ohio, and it was close, the Republicans would be
screaming for reform of the electoral system.

In the original Constitution, slaves were counted as 3/5 of a person in
national elections. That was a compromise to get the Southern states to
ratify. That was wrong, and it was later corrected. The Constitution is
a living document.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

The Electoral system
 

Sierra fisher wrote:
Broken in your view, not in mine.


California has a population (2003 estimate) of 35,484,453, and 55
electoral votes. That comes to 1.5x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

Wyoming has a population of 439,479 (2002 estimate) and 3 electoral
votes. That comes to 6.8x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

A voter in Wyoming has 4.5 times the voting power of a voter in
California in a Presidential election. That's wrong in my book.

If Kerry had carried Ohio, and it was close, the Republicans would be
screaming for reform of the electoral system.

In the original Constitution, slaves were counted as 3/5 of a person in
national elections. That was a compromise to get the Southern states to
ratify. That was wrong, and it was later corrected. The Constitution is
a living document.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"rw" wrote



Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?



Yes .... one thing I hoped would happen this time was that Bush would win
the popular vote, Kerry the electoral .... thus making everyone have a
recent reason to be ****ed at a bad system., and progress possible.

As it sits now there are very few, if any, politicians in this country with
more concern for the future of the country than concern for the future of
their party ... on either side ... thus reasonable change that would benefit
the country will continue to be stifled by those "in the bad system, because
it's bad"

The Electoral system
 

"rw" wrote



Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?



Yes .... one thing I hoped would happen this time was that Bush would win
the popular vote, Kerry the electoral .... thus making everyone have a
recent reason to be ****ed at a bad system., and progress possible.

As it sits now there are very few, if any, politicians in this country with
more concern for the future of the country than concern for the future of
their party ... on either side ... thus reasonable change that would benefit
the country will continue to be stifled by those "in the bad system, because
it's bad"

The Electoral system
 

"rw" wrote



Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?



Yes .... one thing I hoped would happen this time was that Bush would win
the popular vote, Kerry the electoral .... thus making everyone have a
recent reason to be ****ed at a bad system., and progress possible.

As it sits now there are very few, if any, politicians in this country with
more concern for the future of the country than concern for the future of
their party ... on either side ... thus reasonable change that would benefit
the country will continue to be stifled by those "in the bad system, because
it's bad"

The Electoral system
 

From: rw

In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

No It is working just fine, and I would feel the same if Kerry had won Ohio.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

The Electoral system
 

From: rw

In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

No It is working just fine, and I would feel the same if Kerry had won Ohio.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

The Electoral system
 

From: rw

In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

No It is working just fine, and I would feel the same if Kerry had won Ohio.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

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"rw" wrote in message
m...

California has a population (2003 estimate) of 35,484,453, and 55
electoral votes. That comes to 1.5x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

Wyoming has a population of 439,479 (2002 estimate) and 3 electoral
votes. That comes to 6.8x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

A voter in Wyoming has 4.5 times the voting power of a voter in
California in a Presidential election. That's wrong in my book.
snip

Heck, RW, if that's the criteria for a "broken system", don't just stop with
doing away with the electoral college, get rid of the Senate as well. After
all both Wyoming and California get the same number of senators. Each voter
in WY has 717 times the representation in the Senate of a voter in CA., so
the system must be truly "broken". Gee, the designers of our constitution
must not have had any idea of what they were doing..

Bob Weinberger
La, Grande, OR

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"rw" wrote in message
m...

California has a population (2003 estimate) of 35,484,453, and 55
electoral votes. That comes to 1.5x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

Wyoming has a population of 439,479 (2002 estimate) and 3 electoral
votes. That comes to 6.8x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

A voter in Wyoming has 4.5 times the voting power of a voter in
California in a Presidential election. That's wrong in my book.
snip

Heck, RW, if that's the criteria for a "broken system", don't just stop with
doing away with the electoral college, get rid of the Senate as well. After
all both Wyoming and California get the same number of senators. Each voter
in WY has 717 times the representation in the Senate of a voter in CA., so
the system must be truly "broken". Gee, the designers of our constitution
must not have had any idea of what they were doing..

Bob Weinberger
La, Grande, OR

place a dot between bobs and stuff and remove invalid to send email

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Bob Weinberger wrote:

Heck, RW, if that's the criteria for a "broken system", don't just stop with
doing away with the electoral college, get rid of the Senate as well. After
all both Wyoming and California get the same number of senators. Each voter
in WY has 717 times the representation in the Senate of a voter in CA., so
the system must be truly "broken". Gee, the designers of our constitution
must not have had any idea of what they were doing..

They knew what they were doing. They were pragmatically crafting a
compromise. Times change.

I wouldn't do away with the Senate. Senators are the representatives of
the people of their states. The President is supposed to be the
President of ALL the people. As it stands, the President, no matter who
he is or of which party, is 4.5 times the President of a person in
Wyoming compared to a person in California.

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Bob Weinberger wrote:

Heck, RW, if that's the criteria for a "broken system", don't just stop with
doing away with the electoral college, get rid of the Senate as well. After
all both Wyoming and California get the same number of senators. Each voter
in WY has 717 times the representation in the Senate of a voter in CA., so
the system must be truly "broken". Gee, the designers of our constitution
must not have had any idea of what they were doing..

They knew what they were doing. They were pragmatically crafting a
compromise. Times change.

I wouldn't do away with the Senate. Senators are the representatives of
the people of their states. The President is supposed to be the
President of ALL the people. As it stands, the President, no matter who
he is or of which party, is 4.5 times the President of a person in
Wyoming compared to a person in California.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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Bob Weinberger wrote:

Heck, RW, if that's the criteria for a "broken system", don't just stop with
doing away with the electoral college, get rid of the Senate as well. After
all both Wyoming and California get the same number of senators. Each voter
in WY has 717 times the representation in the Senate of a voter in CA., so
the system must be truly "broken". Gee, the designers of our constitution
must not have had any idea of what they were doing..

They knew what they were doing. They were pragmatically crafting a
compromise. Times change.

I wouldn't do away with the Senate. Senators are the representatives of
the people of their states. The President is supposed to be the
President of ALL the people. As it stands, the President, no matter who
he is or of which party, is 4.5 times the President of a person in
Wyoming compared to a person in California.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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IT wouldn't be a bad start to just reform the election process.
We could start with no voting machines (Walden O'Dell got Bush Ohio- not the
voters) , two day elections on weeks ends and fines for people who don't
vote. I'd like to see laws that fined canidates for lies in political adds.
The fines should be progressive to the point of wiping out canidates.
"rw" wrote in message
m...
In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

The Electoral system
 

IT wouldn't be a bad start to just reform the election process.
We could start with no voting machines (Walden O'Dell got Bush Ohio- not the
voters) , two day elections on weeks ends and fines for people who don't
vote. I'd like to see laws that fined canidates for lies in political adds.
The fines should be progressive to the point of wiping out canidates.
"rw" wrote in message
m...
In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

The Electoral system
 

IT wouldn't be a bad start to just reform the election process.
We could start with no voting machines (Walden O'Dell got Bush Ohio- not the
voters) , two day elections on weeks ends and fines for people who don't
vote. I'd like to see laws that fined canidates for lies in political adds.
The fines should be progressive to the point of wiping out canidates.
"rw" wrote in message
m...
In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

The Electoral system
 

rw wrote:

The Constitution is
a living document.


well...so far. but you gotta admit it's gasping, choking, and suffering
seizures. ...and, i'm afraid the next round of proposed amendments, if
added, will serve to infect it with a disease from which it and we may
never recover. i prefer we avoid all further amendments.

The Electoral system
 

rw wrote:

The Constitution is
a living document.


well...so far. but you gotta admit it's gasping, choking, and suffering
seizures. ...and, i'm afraid the next round of proposed amendments, if
added, will serve to infect it with a disease from which it and we may
never recover. i prefer we avoid all further amendments.

The Electoral system
 

rw wrote:

The Constitution is
a living document.


well...so far. but you gotta admit it's gasping, choking, and suffering
seizures. ...and, i'm afraid the next round of proposed amendments, if
added, will serve to infect it with a disease from which it and we may
never recover. i prefer we avoid all further amendments.

The Electoral system
 

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:40:42 -0700, rw
wrote:

In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at least
some showing here.
--
Charlie...
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/c/cchoc/

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On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:40:42 -0700, rw
wrote:

In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at least
some showing here.
--
Charlie...
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/c/cchoc/

The Electoral system
 

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:40:42 -0700, rw
wrote:

In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at least
some showing here.
--
Charlie...
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/c/cchoc/

The Electoral system
 

From: Charlie Choc

It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at
least
some showing here.

It seems to me that the candidates would make many appearances in the major
population centers, and few, if any, elsewhere. A handful of major urban areas
would decide the pesidency. I say leave the electoral college alone, but
improve and standardize the voting system to insure fairness and eliminate
controversy.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

The Electoral system
 

From: Charlie Choc

It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at
least
some showing here.

It seems to me that the candidates would make many appearances in the major
population centers, and few, if any, elsewhere. A handful of major urban areas
would decide the pesidency. I say leave the electoral college alone, but
improve and standardize the voting system to insure fairness and eliminate
controversy.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

The Electoral system
 

From: Charlie Choc

It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at
least
some showing here.

It seems to me that the candidates would make many appearances in the major
population centers, and few, if any, elsewhere. A handful of major urban areas
would decide the pesidency. I say leave the electoral college alone, but
improve and standardize the voting system to insure fairness and eliminate
controversy.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

The Electoral system
 

On 07 Nov 2004 22:55:45 GMT, ojunk (George Adams) wrote:

From: Charlie Choc

It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at
least
some showing here.

It seems to me that the candidates would make many appearances in the major
population centers, and few, if any, elsewhere.

They do that now, but mostly just for fund raisers.

A handful of major urban areas
would decide the pesidency.

Actually, they majority of voters would decide it regardless of where they
lived. The presidency is a national office, the states already have senators
and congressmen to advance their specific agendas.
--
Charlie...
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/c/cchoc/

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On 07 Nov 2004 22:55:45 GMT, ojunk (George Adams) wrote:

From: Charlie Choc

It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at
least
some showing here.

It seems to me that the candidates would make many appearances in the major
population centers, and few, if any, elsewhere.

They do that now, but mostly just for fund raisers.

A handful of major urban areas
would decide the pesidency.

Actually, they majority of voters would decide it regardless of where they
lived. The presidency is a national office, the states already have senators
and congressmen to advance their specific agendas.
--
Charlie...
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/c/cchoc/

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On 07 Nov 2004 22:55:45 GMT, ojunk (George Adams) wrote:

From: Charlie Choc

It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at
least
some showing here.

It seems to me that the candidates would make many appearances in the major
population centers, and few, if any, elsewhere.

They do that now, but mostly just for fund raisers.

A handful of major urban areas
would decide the pesidency.

Actually, they majority of voters would decide it regardless of where they
lived. The presidency is a national office, the states already have senators
and congressmen to advance their specific agendas.
--
Charlie...
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/c/cchoc/

The Electoral system
 

George Adams wrote:
From: Charlie Choc


It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at
least
some showing here.


It seems to me that the candidates would make many appearances in the major
population centers, and few, if any, elsewhere. A handful of major urban areas
would decide the pesidency. I say leave the electoral college alone, but
improve and standardize the voting system to insure fairness and eliminate
controversy.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

If I were to champion any changes to the Electoral College, I would
consider that which Colorado attempted to pass...make it proportional to
the state's voting population. Consider this; let's say for argument's
sake that California had exactly 1 million voters and as it turns out in
this example, 499,999 vote Demorat and 500,001 vote Republican. For that
one voter's majority, the entire state's electoral votes go to the
GOPers. Hardly fair in my opinion. It should not be, in my opinion,
winner takes all. Something to think about?

Philski

The Electoral system
 

George Adams wrote:
From: Charlie Choc


It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at
least
some showing here.


It seems to me that the candidates would make many appearances in the major
population centers, and few, if any, elsewhere. A handful of major urban areas
would decide the pesidency. I say leave the electoral college alone, but
improve and standardize the voting system to insure fairness and eliminate
controversy.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

If I were to champion any changes to the Electoral College, I would
consider that which Colorado attempted to pass...make it proportional to
the state's voting population. Consider this; let's say for argument's
sake that California had exactly 1 million voters and as it turns out in
this example, 499,999 vote Demorat and 500,001 vote Republican. For that
one voter's majority, the entire state's electoral votes go to the
GOPers. Hardly fair in my opinion. It should not be, in my opinion,
winner takes all. Something to think about?

Philski

The Electoral system
 

George Adams wrote:
From: Charlie Choc


It would be interesting to see how campaign tactics would change, not being
able to focus on just "battleground" states. I don't recall seeing even one
presidential ad, but I don't watch a lot of TV so there probably were at
least
some showing here.


It seems to me that the candidates would make many appearances in the major
population centers, and few, if any, elsewhere. A handful of major urban areas
would decide the pesidency. I say leave the electoral college alone, but
improve and standardize the voting system to insure fairness and eliminate
controversy.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

If I were to champion any changes to the Electoral College, I would
consider that which Colorado attempted to pass...make it proportional to
the state's voting population. Consider this; let's say for argument's
sake that California had exactly 1 million voters and as it turns out in
this example, 499,999 vote Demorat and 500,001 vote Republican. For that
one voter's majority, the entire state's electoral votes go to the
GOPers. Hardly fair in my opinion. It should not be, in my opinion,
winner takes all. Something to think about?

Philski

The Electoral system
 

What? And let the peoples' vote count? End pork barrel to the large
electoral vote states?

And force all to read history before voting?

How does it work in Australia?

.... The present system is not about government, it is about party
perpetuation.


john
"rw" wrote in message
m...
In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

The Electoral system
 

What? And let the peoples' vote count? End pork barrel to the large
electoral vote states?

And force all to read history before voting?

How does it work in Australia?

.... The present system is not about government, it is about party
perpetuation.


john
"rw" wrote in message
m...
In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

The Electoral system
 

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 00:06:10 GMT, "asadi...."
wrote:

What? And let the peoples' vote count? End pork barrel to the large
electoral vote states?

And force all to read history before voting?

How does it work in Australia?

... The present system is not about government, it is about party
perpetuation.

Ya, it's interesting how differentiated rights are OK when it's the
Electoral College we're discussing but wrong when it's affirmative
action or gay rights, or whatever. It's kinda hard to take when
differentiated rights are OK as long as it's the other guy's ox that
is getting gored. (Don't worry, we have the same bull****, different
flavour, in Canuckistanni land. We're no better.)

Peter

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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 00:06:10 GMT, "asadi...."
wrote:

What? And let the peoples' vote count? End pork barrel to the large
electoral vote states?

And force all to read history before voting?

How does it work in Australia?

... The present system is not about government, it is about party
perpetuation.

Ya, it's interesting how differentiated rights are OK when it's the
Electoral College we're discussing but wrong when it's affirmative
action or gay rights, or whatever. It's kinda hard to take when
differentiated rights are OK as long as it's the other guy's ox that
is getting gored. (Don't worry, we have the same bull****, different
flavour, in Canuckistanni land. We're no better.)

Peter

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The Electoral system
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
...Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

It is. But, if we're going to reform it......you know bring it all the way
up to the nineteenth century or something.....what the hell, why not just do
away with this silly bull**** rotating monarchy altogether?

The possibilities are endless........heck, we could even give democracy a
try. People have been talking about it for centuries; why not see if it
works?

Wolfgang
i mean, really, what have we got to lose?

The Electoral system
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
...Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

It is. But, if we're going to reform it......you know bring it all the way
up to the nineteenth century or something.....what the hell, why not just do
away with this silly bull**** rotating monarchy altogether?

The possibilities are endless........heck, we could even give democracy a
try. People have been talking about it for centuries; why not see if it
works?

Wolfgang
i mean, really, what have we got to lose?