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SHREDİ January 13th, 2004 01:53 PM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
SHREDİ wrote:
Wal Mart kills small business, free market captalism, and works their
employees 37 hrs a week in order to not have to give a health plan.
We end up paying for them.
These are just small samples of a terrible company.

Now they took out life insurance policies, on their employees, and
cashed them in for the company:
http://tinyurl.com/3x5vy

DALLAS - Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has settled a lawsuit over its practice
of taking out life insurance on employees and making itself the
beneficiary. "A large percentage of the population doesn't approve of
the morality or the ethics of this type of conduct," Mike Myers, a
Houston attorney for the families, said Friday. "My clients'
reaction, when they found out, was stunned and disbelief, turning to
frustration and anger."


Buy tackle from your LOCAL tackle shop or shop online!


http://tinyurl.com/2f7hv



Tony January 13th, 2004 07:38 PM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
DALLAS - Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has settled a lawsuit over its practice
of taking out life insurance on employees and making itself the
beneficiary. "A large percentage of the population doesn't approve of
the morality or the ethics of this type of conduct," Mike Myers, a
Houston attorney for the families, said Friday. "My clients'
reaction, when they found out, was stunned and disbelief, turning to
frustration and anger."


Business practices aside. The last 4 jobs I have had as well as my current
job all have had "Life Insurance" policies with the company as the
beneficiary. Typically 1-5 mil in coverage.

This is very common for companies to protect their investment. If I die
today, it will cost considerable money to replace me as well as a lot of
lost accounts. This costs companies a lot of money. You don't usually hear
about it at the "clerk" level though, it's usually in management.

I find it kind of flattering that the company considers me of value enough
to want to protect that value.

They have insurance to cover everything else (lots of things of
insignificant value) why wouldn't they protect an employee that's worth tons
to a company?

Tony



RGarri7470 January 13th, 2004 10:37 PM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
looks like you been reading Playboy
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

Josh January 13th, 2004 11:31 PM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
Check this out Shred. . . I am a former executive with a Catholic Health
Care System here in suburban Chicago. They provided me. . . as the
beneficiary with a $1,000,000. policy. I contributed also. Then a year ago
wheh I got "downsized" (a nice term for canned as a result of a merger and
three CEO's later) after 16 years, hey "Cashed it in" for themselves. I
didn't get a dime of my money out. They wound up with $45,000. Cash in hand.
nice huh ? Goes a lot further in the corp world than those clowns that run
walmart.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



J Buck January 14th, 2004 01:30 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
I contributed also. Then a year ago wheh I got "downsized" (a nice term
for canned as a result of a merger and three CEO's later) after 16
years, hey "Cashed it in" for themselves. I didn't get a dime of my
money out. They wound up with $45,000

That's horrible. Did you look into that further?


Todd Copeland January 14th, 2004 02:06 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
I love this, 100% one side look at business with no consideration for
anything else. If you walked like you think about Walmart you'd hit every
wall you walked near.

How many people does Walmart employ? Where would those people be working if
they did not work at Walmart? That local takle shop you mentioned? I think
not. If they did, what would they get paid an hour? Would they have a health
plan? Would they have life insurance? Yup... everyone people I know who
works at a local tackle shop does so mainly for the benefits and high pay.
While I believe in protecting employees rights and that many companeis take
advantage of employees, no one is forcing them to work there. If Walmart
does something wrong... nail them for it. But to think that because But
people just love pointing at the "big guy" and taking pot shots without
really looking at the big picture.

And, as Bob mentioned, don't blame the company who employees and pays
hundreds of thousands of people... blame the people who shop there because
they are getting low prices. Of course, when you have to pay twice as much
for your tackle you will have whole set of new issues to complain about.

Hey... but let's also have the _whole_ truth out the
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...urance_lawsuit
"Wal-Mart is suing AIG and Hartford Life, which sold the policies, to force
them to pay Wal-Mart's losses and additional expenses - potentially
including the cost of Monday's settlement."

"Wal-Mart is one of many large U.S. companies in recent years that have
taken out policies on the lives of employees, ranging from executives to
workers on the bottom rungs of the pay ladder, with the goal of collecting
benefits when the employees die. Companies term the policies corporate-owned
life insurance, or COLIs. Critics call them dead-peasant policies."

"SHREDİ" wrote in message
news:dJSMb.252$bg1.69@fed1read05...
SHREDİ wrote:
Wal Mart kills small business, free market captalism, and works their
employees 37 hrs a week in order to not have to give a health plan.
We end up paying for them.
These are just small samples of a terrible company.

Now they took out life insurance policies, on their employees, and
cashed them in for the company:
http://tinyurl.com/3x5vy

DALLAS - Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has settled a lawsuit over its practice
of taking out life insurance on employees and making itself the
beneficiary. "A large percentage of the population doesn't approve of
the morality or the ethics of this type of conduct," Mike Myers, a
Houston attorney for the families, said Friday. "My clients'
reaction, when they found out, was stunned and disbelief, turning to
frustration and anger."


Buy tackle from your LOCAL tackle shop or shop online!


http://tinyurl.com/2f7hv





SHREDİ January 14th, 2004 02:29 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
Bob Rickard wrote:
Blaim the buying public, which includes all of us. The Wal-Marts of
this world owe their existence purely to those who want great
customer service and justice for all workers, but refuse pay for it.
Every legitimate retailer who has ever lived could talk forever of
all the times that shoppers took all their prescious time and energy,
but still ended up buying elsewhere purely for price. We should
consider this as fair payment for our greed (one of the seven deadly
sins).


So true Bob but a few of us out here won't go in that store anymore. It's
just un-American in my view.
I always strive to by from the "little guy".

BTW: I caught a lot of bass last Spring, on your baits. I am definately
praying for rain here in SoCal so that my favorite fishing hole fills the 4
foot stick weed bed! Your spinnerbaits are deadly in there!!




"SHREDİ" wrote in message
news:9TRMb.248$bg1.17@fed1read05...


Wal Mart kills small business, free market captalism, and works their
employees 37 hrs a week in order to not have to give a health plan.
We end up paying for them.
These are just small samples of a terrible company.

Now they took out life insurance policies, on their employees, and
cashed them in for the company:
http://tinyurl.com/3x5vy

DALLAS - Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has settled a lawsuit over its
practice of taking out life insurance on employees and making itself
the beneficiary. "A large percentage of the population doesn't
approve of the morality or the ethics of this type of conduct," Mike
Myers, a Houston attorney for the families, said Friday. "My
clients' reaction, when they found out, was stunned and disbelief,
turning to frustration and anger."


Buy tackle from your LOCAL tackle shop or shop online!




J Buck January 14th, 2004 03:02 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
I love this, 100% one side look at business with no consideration for
anything else

You won't find a lot of Walmart defenders on this newsgroup. This
subject has been beaten to death recently on alt.rec.guns. Everyone
knows you may save some money there, but really, is it worth it to buy a
Rapala there for $4.99 as opposed to $5.19 at the local tackle shop?
When those 2 dimes you saved are long gone, the little guy will be too,
and you'll rue the day.


Illinois Fisherman January 14th, 2004 03:22 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
Yes, but where would AL shop and return his broken stuff without Wally
World.

Wal-Mart is both good and bad for any community. They put small businesses
out of business but hire a lot of people. They help the community as the
tear it apart at times. I buy some items there, I would be stupid not to.
But most of my rods and reels, and lures come from two small tackle shops I
frequent in my area. I have to keep them in business because they are great
people and it would be a disaster if they went out of business.


"SHREDİ" wrote in message
news:9TRMb.248$bg1.17@fed1read05...


Wal Mart kills small business, free market captalism, and works their
employees 37 hrs a week in order to not have to give a health plan. We end
up paying for them.
These are just small samples of a terrible company.

Now they took out life insurance policies, on their employees, and cashed
them in for the company:
http://tinyurl.com/3x5vy

DALLAS - Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has settled a lawsuit over its practice of
taking out life insurance on employees and making itself the beneficiary.
"A large percentage of the population doesn't approve of the morality or

the
ethics of this type of conduct," Mike Myers, a Houston attorney for the
families, said Friday. "My clients' reaction, when they found out, was
stunned and disbelief, turning to frustration and anger."


Buy tackle from your LOCAL tackle shop or shop online!







Bob Rickard January 14th, 2004 04:31 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
Danke!

"SHREDİ" wrote in message
news:AN1Nb.301$bg1.28@fed1read05...
Bob Rickard wrote:
Blaim the buying public, which includes all of us. The Wal-Marts of
this world owe their existence purely to those who want great
customer service and justice for all workers, but refuse pay for it.
Every legitimate retailer who has ever lived could talk forever of
all the times that shoppers took all their prescious time and energy,
but still ended up buying elsewhere purely for price. We should
consider this as fair payment for our greed (one of the seven deadly
sins).


So true Bob but a few of us out here won't go in that store anymore. It's
just un-American in my view.
I always strive to by from the "little guy".

BTW: I caught a lot of bass last Spring, on your baits. I am definately
praying for rain here in SoCal so that my favorite fishing hole fills the

4
foot stick weed bed! Your spinnerbaits are deadly in there!!




"SHREDİ" wrote in message
news:9TRMb.248$bg1.17@fed1read05...


Wal Mart kills small business, free market captalism, and works their
employees 37 hrs a week in order to not have to give a health plan.
We end up paying for them.
These are just small samples of a terrible company.

Now they took out life insurance policies, on their employees, and
cashed them in for the company:
http://tinyurl.com/3x5vy

DALLAS - Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has settled a lawsuit over its
practice of taking out life insurance on employees and making itself
the beneficiary. "A large percentage of the population doesn't
approve of the morality or the ethics of this type of conduct," Mike
Myers, a Houston attorney for the families, said Friday. "My
clients' reaction, when they found out, was stunned and disbelief,
turning to frustration and anger."


Buy tackle from your LOCAL tackle shop or shop online!






go-bassn January 14th, 2004 05:02 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
And now it looks like YOU have been reading Playboy...

WW
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
looks like you been reading Playboy
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com




Marty January 14th, 2004 05:58 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 

J Buck wrote in message
...
Everyone knows you may save some money there, but really, is it worth it

to buy a Rapala there for $4.99 as opposed to $5.19 at the local tackle
shop?
When those 2 dimes you saved are long gone, the little guy will be too,
and you'll rue the day.


Around here, the local tackle shops have next to nothing on their shelves
and their price for that Rapala is more likely to be $6.89 rather than
$5.19. If I want a selection of tackle to choose from, I have to patronize
large stores, but that would be sporting goods stores, Wal-Marts here have a
lousy selection.

I did not read the article linked to, but there is nothing wrong with a
company being the beneficiary of a policy they pay for. There are a lot of
abhorrent practices that Wal-Mart engages in, but I don't see that insurance
policy deal as one of them.



go-bassn January 14th, 2004 03:36 PM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
Ahhh, the pictures...

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
And now it looks like YOU have been reading Playboy...

WW


Yep, every month since I turned 18 and went off to college and got a
subscription. But either I am getting more conservative or Playboy has

gone
crazy, nothing but slams of Bush and business lately. Along with the

pictures,
of course!
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com




Josh January 14th, 2004 03:43 PM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
Same here Illinois.. I often buy at Ed Shirley's tho they are several %
point higher on most stuff. But they are good community businessmen who
employ lots of guys and for the most part have all the right stuff. Other
than that it's Bass Pro or Cabelas.

And yeah JB... all nice n legal the way they stuck up my .. well nose I
suppose.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



go-bassn January 14th, 2004 04:26 PM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
I gotta think BPS is hurting the small tackledealer more than any other
single factor, wouldn't you agree? Wal-Mart's ok for a pit stop on
occasion, but I don't do my serious tackle buying there. The selection
generally stinks & the rods/reels aren't of the quality I use.

Warren


"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
So true Bob but a few of us out here won't go in that store anymore. It's
just un-American in my view.
I always strive to by from the "little guy".


So you don't go to Cabellas or Bass Pro Shops, or buy online or mail order

from
them either?
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com




Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers January 14th, 2004 07:02 PM

Wal-Mart sucks
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I gotta think BPS is hurting the small tackledealer more than any other
single factor, wouldn't you agree? Wal-Mart's ok for a pit stop on
occasion, but I don't do my serious tackle buying there. The selection
generally stinks & the rods/reels aren't of the quality I use.


I think that ALL of the mass merchandisers (Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Cabelas,
BassPro, Gander Mountain, Galyans, take your pick) are hurting the mom & pop
tackle shops. To what degree depends on the selection and expertise of the
employees of both the mass merchandiser AND the mom & pop shops.

Our local Wal-Mart carries a pretty extensive line of sporting goods,
including Shimano Curado reels, Zoom Flukes, and Berkely Power products.
They used to have a guy working there that knew his stuff and was a good
source of information but he has since been promoted and no longer works in
the sporting goods department.

The few mom & pop shops in the immediate Rhinelander area, once you get past
the basic hook, bobber and live bait don't really have the selection that
I'm looking for. I will admit that their muskie and walleye tackle
selection is normally not too bad, but then again, I don't fish for muskies
and walleyes all the time. Ask them for a pack of watermelon Senkos and
they give you a deer in the headlights look. Heck, to listen to some of
them, unless it's a walleye or a muskie, you're wasting your time fishing
for anything else, especially bass.

There are two shops, one in Tomahawk, one in Eagle River that get the
concept of selection and service. I frequent these two shops quite a bit,
even though they are 20 miles away. The local shops are constantly
complaining about Wal-Mart and K-Mart killing their business, but don't
appear to be willing to do anything to remedy the situation. They won't
stock items that I purchase on a regular basis, nor will they special order
products for me.

I don't shop strictly on price, I go where the selection and service is the
best. I don't bemoan the demise of the local mom & pop shops when they
won't adapt to meet the changing times.

Give me a choice between a GOOD mom & pop shop and a mediocre mass
merchandiser, I will pay more to get what I'm looking for.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Steve Erwin January 14th, 2004 10:36 PM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
You should really get that burr out from under your saddle. This is not
shocking news for anyone. News flash, Things aren't like they used to be. No
more are companies keeping people because they have been there 30 years
either. Most of them are forced out, take early retirement(and a lot of
times that is a joke!) or flat out fire them simply because new magement
thinks younger is always more productive. IOW, loyalty in business is almost
antique. I will buy where the price and service are the best no matter who
it hurts. That's life, get used to it. It's called the market place and I
work too hard for my money to give it to someone just to keep them in
business if they are a lot higher. Like shopping online is really going to
help the mom and pop stores, get real.

"SHREDİ" wrote in message
news:dJSMb.252$bg1.69@fed1read05...
SHREDİ wrote:
Wal Mart kills small business, free market captalism, and works their
employees 37 hrs a week in order to not have to give a health plan.
We end up paying for them.
These are just small samples of a terrible company.

Now they took out life insurance policies, on their employees, and
cashed them in for the company:
http://tinyurl.com/3x5vy

DALLAS - Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has settled a lawsuit over its practice
of taking out life insurance on employees and making itself the
beneficiary. "A large percentage of the population doesn't approve of
the morality or the ethics of this type of conduct," Mike Myers, a
Houston attorney for the families, said Friday. "My clients'
reaction, when they found out, was stunned and disbelief, turning to
frustration and anger."


Buy tackle from your LOCAL tackle shop or shop online!


http://tinyurl.com/2f7hv





Henry Hefner January 15th, 2004 01:07 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:

snip!


I don't shop strictly on price, I go where the selection and service is the
best. I don't bemoan the demise of the local mom & pop shops when they
won't adapt to meet the changing times.

Give me a choice between a GOOD mom & pop shop and a mediocre mass
merchandiser, I will pay more to get what I'm looking for.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


That's the way I feel about it too, Steve. Around here Home Depot is
coming on strong. McCoys was my only home center choice before, and they
didn't last any time at all. The service and selection were always
horrible. 50 miles away in another town, Home Depot moved in and the
local McCoys is going strong. They have a manager that knows he can't
compete on price, so his store is strong on service. Smiles, knowledge
and a willingness to do whatever it takes will win out over don't know &
don't care minimum wage employees. But if the service is sorry both
places, why not get the best price?


Jim Howarth January 15th, 2004 03:32 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
Steve,
About the Mom & Pop shop owners you said "Heck, to listen to some of them,
unless it's a walleye or a muskie, you're wasting your time fishing for
anything else, especially bass." Does this mean even the shop owners
believe there are no bass in Boom Lake.
....Jim


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I gotta think BPS is hurting the small tackledealer more than any other
single factor, wouldn't you agree? Wal-Mart's ok for a pit stop on
occasion, but I don't do my serious tackle buying there. The selection
generally stinks & the rods/reels aren't of the quality I use.


I think that ALL of the mass merchandisers (Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Cabelas,
BassPro, Gander Mountain, Galyans, take your pick) are hurting the mom &

pop
tackle shops. To what degree depends on the selection and expertise of

the
employees of both the mass merchandiser AND the mom & pop shops.

Our local Wal-Mart carries a pretty extensive line of sporting goods,
including Shimano Curado reels, Zoom Flukes, and Berkely Power products.
They used to have a guy working there that knew his stuff and was a good
source of information but he has since been promoted and no longer works

in
the sporting goods department.

The few mom & pop shops in the immediate Rhinelander area, once you get

past
the basic hook, bobber and live bait don't really have the selection that
I'm looking for. I will admit that their muskie and walleye tackle
selection is normally not too bad, but then again, I don't fish for

muskies
and walleyes all the time. Ask them for a pack of watermelon Senkos and
they give you a deer in the headlights look. Heck, to listen to some of
them, unless it's a walleye or a muskie, you're wasting your time fishing
for anything else, especially bass.

There are two shops, one in Tomahawk, one in Eagle River that get the
concept of selection and service. I frequent these two shops quite a bit,
even though they are 20 miles away. The local shops are constantly
complaining about Wal-Mart and K-Mart killing their business, but don't
appear to be willing to do anything to remedy the situation. They won't
stock items that I purchase on a regular basis, nor will they special

order
products for me.

I don't shop strictly on price, I go where the selection and service is

the
best. I don't bemoan the demise of the local mom & pop shops when they
won't adapt to meet the changing times.

Give me a choice between a GOOD mom & pop shop and a mediocre mass
merchandiser, I will pay more to get what I'm looking for.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service
http://www.herefishyfishy.com





Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers January 15th, 2004 03:47 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 

"Jim Howarth" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...
Steve,
About the Mom & Pop shop owners you said "Heck, to listen to some of them,
unless it's a walleye or a muskie, you're wasting your time fishing for
anything else, especially bass." Does this mean even the shop owners
believe there are no bass in Boom Lake.
...Jim


No, but they do complain about the smallies they catch when they're jigging for walleyes. Bass are
considered just slightly above carp by most of the locals who wonder why anyone would waste time
bass fishing. I've told several shops in the area that there are many visitors to the Rhinelander
that love to fish bass and would buy products if they were available. They just don't get it!

So I say, if you can't adapt, provide service and products that are indeed, in demand, then when you
go belly up, don't blame (insert mass merchandiser of your choice here)! The dinosaurs couldn't
adapt and look what happened to them....
--
Steve
OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



J Buck January 15th, 2004 04:04 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
they do complain about the smallies they catch when they're jigging for
walleyes. Bass are considered just slightly above carp by most of the
locals who wonder why anyone would waste time bass fishing

Similar situation here in Maine. Trout are #1, followed by landlocked
salmon or togue. Bass are an afterthought for many, if not most anglers.
I like this newsgroup because of the general info, though. (as well as
the overall friendly atmosphere and senses of humor).

if you can't adapt, provide service and products that are indeed, in
demand, then when you go belly up, don't blame (insert mass merchandiser
of your choice here)! The dinosaurs couldn't adapt and look what
happened to them

Ok LoL How exactly were the dinosaurs supposed to adapt to an
'instant' ice age? :) (Isn't that what happened?)


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers January 15th, 2004 04:28 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 

"J Buck" wrote in message SNIP

Ok LoL How exactly were the dinosaurs supposed to adapt to an
'instant' ice age? :) (Isn't that what happened?)

Depends on which "expert" you listen to.
--
Steve
OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



J Buck January 15th, 2004 04:39 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
How exactly were the dinosaurs supposed to adapt to an 'instant' ice
age? :) =A0 (Isn't that what happened?)

Depends on which "expert" you listen to

Ok, I'll bite. What're the other theories?


Huck Palmatier January 15th, 2004 09:35 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
....some Mom&Pop's HAVE gone online! ...as has WallyWorld for that matter
said Huck

"Steve Erwin" wrote in message
...
You should really get that burr out from under your saddle. This is not
shocking news for anyone. News flash, Things aren't like they used to be.

No
more are companies keeping people because they have been there 30 years
either. Most of them are forced out, take early retirement(and a lot of
times that is a joke!) or flat out fire them simply because new magement
thinks younger is always more productive. IOW, loyalty in business is

almost
antique. I will buy where the price and service are the best no matter who
it hurts. That's life, get used to it. It's called the market place and I
work too hard for my money to give it to someone just to keep them in
business if they are a lot higher. Like shopping online is really going to
help the mom and pop stores, get real.

"SHREDİ" wrote in message
news:dJSMb.252$bg1.69@fed1read05...
SHREDİ wrote:
Wal Mart kills small business, free market captalism, and works their
employees 37 hrs a week in order to not have to give a health plan.
We end up paying for them.
These are just small samples of a terrible company.

Now they took out life insurance policies, on their employees, and
cashed them in for the company:
http://tinyurl.com/3x5vy

DALLAS - Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has settled a lawsuit over its practice
of taking out life insurance on employees and making itself the
beneficiary. "A large percentage of the population doesn't approve of
the morality or the ethics of this type of conduct," Mike Myers, a
Houston attorney for the families, said Friday. "My clients'
reaction, when they found out, was stunned and disbelief, turning to
frustration and anger."


Buy tackle from your LOCAL tackle shop or shop online!


http://tinyurl.com/2f7hv







Bob Rickard January 15th, 2004 04:33 PM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
Playboy has WORDS in it too? Wow!

--
Bob Rickard
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
And now it looks like YOU have been reading Playboy...

WW
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
looks like you been reading Playboy
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com






Kurt Bimler January 16th, 2004 07:41 PM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
Illinois & Josh,

You guys are both out in my area of IL (or at least are fishing my
area). What shops are you going to? I am always looking for a good
"mom & pop" store, and am not too pleased with the one down the street
from my house. The last 2 times I went in there over the fall, it
appeared to be too much trouble for the owner to stop watching the
football game long enough to get the live bait that I needed.

Kurt


On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:43:03 -0600, "Josh"
wrote:

Same here Illinois.. I often buy at Ed Shirley's tho they are several %
point higher on most stuff. But they are good community businessmen who
employ lots of guys and for the most part have all the right stuff. Other
than that it's Bass Pro or Cabelas.

And yeah JB... all nice n legal the way they stuck up my .. well nose I
suppose.



Illinois Fisherman January 18th, 2004 01:23 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
There is a place in Crystal Lake called Dave's Bait and tackle. It is on Rt.
176 just North off the Rt. 31 intersection here.
Great place. Lots of information about Illinois and Wisconsin fishing just
about anywhere all the way to the Mississippi waters.



"Kurt Bimler" wrote in message
...
Illinois & Josh,

You guys are both out in my area of IL (or at least are fishing my
area). What shops are you going to? I am always looking for a good
"mom & pop" store, and am not too pleased with the one down the street
from my house. The last 2 times I went in there over the fall, it
appeared to be too much trouble for the owner to stop watching the
football game long enough to get the live bait that I needed.

Kurt


On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:43:03 -0600, "Josh"
wrote:

Same here Illinois.. I often buy at Ed Shirley's tho they are several %
point higher on most stuff. But they are good community businessmen who
employ lots of guys and for the most part have all the right stuff. Other
than that it's Bass Pro or Cabelas.

And yeah JB... all nice n legal the way they stuck up my .. well nose I
suppose.





January 21st, 2004 05:53 PM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
Must be Illinois,...LOL Down here in deep Southern Illinois there has been
a bait shop near Crab Orchard lake for 50 years or more...they are the same
way... until they get to know you. Then it's like you have been going there
for years. They have a captive audience. There isn't another baitshop
nearby for miles. LOL MIKE
"Kurt Bimler" wrote in message
...
Illinois & Josh,

You guys are both out in my area of IL (or at least are fishing my
area). What shops are you going to? I am always looking for a good
"mom & pop" store, and am not too pleased with the one down the street
from my house. The last 2 times I went in there over the fall, it
appeared to be too much trouble for the owner to stop watching the
football game long enough to get the live bait that I needed.

Kurt


On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:43:03 -0600, "Josh"
wrote:

Same here Illinois.. I often buy at Ed Shirley's tho they are several %
point higher on most stuff. But they are good community businessmen who
employ lots of guys and for the most part have all the right stuff. Other
than that it's Bass Pro or Cabelas.

And yeah JB... all nice n legal the way they stuck up my .. well nose I
suppose.





Josh January 28th, 2004 03:07 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
Kurt,
Can't remember but did I tell you about "Strictly Fishing on Plainfield
road just about a mile west of I55. Nice little shop. Nice little place with
a good selection.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



Josh January 28th, 2004 03:07 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
Kurt,
Can't remember but did I tell you about "Strictly Fishing on Plainfield
road just about a mile west of I55. Nice little shop. Nice little place with
a good selection.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



Josh January 28th, 2004 03:07 AM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
Kurt,
Can't remember but did I tell you about "Strictly Fishing on Plainfield
road just about a mile west of I55. Nice little shop. Nice little place with
a good selection.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



KurtB January 28th, 2004 08:48 PM

Wal-Mart sucks
 
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:07:38 -0600, "Josh"
wrote:

Kurt,
Can't remember but did I tell you about "Strictly Fishing on Plainfield
road just about a mile west of I55. Nice little shop. Nice little place with
a good selection.


Thanks Josh.

You may have, but I did not see it on slowly growing list of stores.
I figure if I build up a list that covers enough of the Chicago area,
I will always be able to find a place to window shop between customer
sites when I have some time to kill.

Kurt



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