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Tom Nakashima November 29th, 2004 03:57 PM

Nymph Line
 
Greetings,
I notice some flyline companies make a nymph line, usually a longer back, or
longer body for easier roll casting and mending, also easier to cast
weighted nymphs. I believe Rio makes one with a built-in strike indicator.

Has anyone here tried these nymph lines? Are there advantages over the
standard WF lines?

-tom



rw November 29th, 2004 04:12 PM

Nymph Line
 
Tom Nakashima wrote:

Greetings,
I notice some flyline companies make a nymph line, usually a longer back, or
longer body for easier roll casting and mending, also easier to cast
weighted nymphs. I believe Rio makes one with a built-in strike indicator.


Unethical.

It sounds like a way to separate gullible gear whores from their money.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw November 29th, 2004 04:12 PM

Nymph Line
 
Tom Nakashima wrote:

Greetings,
I notice some flyline companies make a nymph line, usually a longer back, or
longer body for easier roll casting and mending, also easier to cast
weighted nymphs. I believe Rio makes one with a built-in strike indicator.


Unethical.

It sounds like a way to separate gullible gear whores from their money.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Cyli November 30th, 2004 04:50 AM

Nymph Line
 
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:13:38 -0600, "Guy Thornberg"
wrote:

(snipped)

You're new (I hope) to newsgroups, right?

I have a pic of my Hardy Multiplier with a nymph line.


Please don't post anything binary to a conversational newsgroup. In
this particular group I don't want to tell you what the penalty is for
a second offense, but it may involve Wolfgang, Ken, and a KPOS.

Cyli
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Often taunted by trout.

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Cyli November 30th, 2004 04:50 AM

Nymph Line
 
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:13:38 -0600, "Guy Thornberg"
wrote:

(snipped)

You're new (I hope) to newsgroups, right?

I have a pic of my Hardy Multiplier with a nymph line.


Please don't post anything binary to a conversational newsgroup. In
this particular group I don't want to tell you what the penalty is for
a second offense, but it may involve Wolfgang, Ken, and a KPOS.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

al December 1st, 2004 11:56 AM

Nymph Line
 
I was given the AS nymph taper while working in a pro shop in MT. I fished
it three times, took it off the spool and replaced it with the Cortland 444
clear camo. Haven't thought about that nymph taper since this post...
"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
...
Greetings,
I notice some flyline companies make a nymph line, usually a longer back,

or
longer body for easier roll casting and mending, also easier to cast
weighted nymphs. I believe Rio makes one with a built-in strike

indicator.

Has anyone here tried these nymph lines? Are there advantages over the
standard WF lines?

-tom





al December 1st, 2004 11:56 AM

Nymph Line
 
I was given the AS nymph taper while working in a pro shop in MT. I fished
it three times, took it off the spool and replaced it with the Cortland 444
clear camo. Haven't thought about that nymph taper since this post...
"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
...
Greetings,
I notice some flyline companies make a nymph line, usually a longer back,

or
longer body for easier roll casting and mending, also easier to cast
weighted nymphs. I believe Rio makes one with a built-in strike

indicator.

Has anyone here tried these nymph lines? Are there advantages over the
standard WF lines?

-tom





Tom Nakashima December 1st, 2004 09:39 PM

Nymph Line
 

"Clark Reid" wrote in message
...
Cortland used to make a nymph indicator line in their 444 series, I don't
know if they still do. It was popular with the "Landlocked steelheaders"
around Taupo for a while but has since lost favor.

I use a Teeny Long Shot when nymphing our big rivers because the longer
belly does make mending a lot easier when you have a lot of line out. As

the
name of the game on our winter fisheries is to get long deep drifts long
casts combined with a lot of mending is the most common technique. Anyone
who has tried to mend long sections of running line behind a short head

will
know the frustration so there is some merit to these longer heads.

However, for smaller streams and shorter cast I find a DT is easier to

use.

YMMV but I think there is some merit to them. As for strike indicators
(bobbers) I find using yarn and being able to put it at any point on the
leader to suit the conditions or individual fish to be best but we

commonly
use 15' leaders to sighted fish here in NZ. I prefer to fish a dry as a
strike indicator if I have to go to a nymph.

Clark

Thanks Clark,
Had to do a lot of mending on the Trinity and did use the floating frayed
macramé type bobber at times.I actually like it better with no added strike
indicator, but it takes a fast reaction and I had my share of misses, and
that's why I might be interested in the Rio Nymph line with the colored
strike indicator tip. I learned to set the hook by pulling on the line and
moving the rod all in one fast motion. What I really want to know if you can
see the orange tip indicator well when detecting a hit.
Mending is an art, and it's forever changing with the current. There is so
much to learn about fly-fishing, guess that's why I love it.
-tom



Tom Nakashima December 1st, 2004 09:39 PM

Nymph Line
 

"Clark Reid" wrote in message
...
Cortland used to make a nymph indicator line in their 444 series, I don't
know if they still do. It was popular with the "Landlocked steelheaders"
around Taupo for a while but has since lost favor.

I use a Teeny Long Shot when nymphing our big rivers because the longer
belly does make mending a lot easier when you have a lot of line out. As

the
name of the game on our winter fisheries is to get long deep drifts long
casts combined with a lot of mending is the most common technique. Anyone
who has tried to mend long sections of running line behind a short head

will
know the frustration so there is some merit to these longer heads.

However, for smaller streams and shorter cast I find a DT is easier to

use.

YMMV but I think there is some merit to them. As for strike indicators
(bobbers) I find using yarn and being able to put it at any point on the
leader to suit the conditions or individual fish to be best but we

commonly
use 15' leaders to sighted fish here in NZ. I prefer to fish a dry as a
strike indicator if I have to go to a nymph.

Clark

Thanks Clark,
Had to do a lot of mending on the Trinity and did use the floating frayed
macramé type bobber at times.I actually like it better with no added strike
indicator, but it takes a fast reaction and I had my share of misses, and
that's why I might be interested in the Rio Nymph line with the colored
strike indicator tip. I learned to set the hook by pulling on the line and
moving the rod all in one fast motion. What I really want to know if you can
see the orange tip indicator well when detecting a hit.
Mending is an art, and it's forever changing with the current. There is so
much to learn about fly-fishing, guess that's why I love it.
-tom



Peter Charles December 1st, 2004 09:41 PM

Nymph Line
 
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:39:33 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:


"Clark Reid" wrote in message
...
Cortland used to make a nymph indicator line in their 444 series, I don't
know if they still do. It was popular with the "Landlocked steelheaders"
around Taupo for a while but has since lost favor.

I use a Teeny Long Shot when nymphing our big rivers because the longer
belly does make mending a lot easier when you have a lot of line out. As

the
name of the game on our winter fisheries is to get long deep drifts long
casts combined with a lot of mending is the most common technique. Anyone
who has tried to mend long sections of running line behind a short head

will
know the frustration so there is some merit to these longer heads.

However, for smaller streams and shorter cast I find a DT is easier to

use.

YMMV but I think there is some merit to them. As for strike indicators
(bobbers) I find using yarn and being able to put it at any point on the
leader to suit the conditions or individual fish to be best but we

commonly
use 15' leaders to sighted fish here in NZ. I prefer to fish a dry as a
strike indicator if I have to go to a nymph.

Clark

Thanks Clark,
Had to do a lot of mending on the Trinity and did use the floating frayed
macramé type bobber at times.I actually like it better with no added strike
indicator, but it takes a fast reaction and I had my share of misses, and
that's why I might be interested in the Rio Nymph line with the colored
strike indicator tip. I learned to set the hook by pulling on the line and
moving the rod all in one fast motion. What I really want to know if you can
see the orange tip indicator well when detecting a hit.
Mending is an art, and it's forever changing with the current. There is so
much to learn about fly-fishing, guess that's why I love it.
-tom

Tom, instead of watching a bobber, why not swing for steelies instead?

Peter

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Peter Charles December 1st, 2004 09:41 PM

Nymph Line
 
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:39:33 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:


"Clark Reid" wrote in message
...
Cortland used to make a nymph indicator line in their 444 series, I don't
know if they still do. It was popular with the "Landlocked steelheaders"
around Taupo for a while but has since lost favor.

I use a Teeny Long Shot when nymphing our big rivers because the longer
belly does make mending a lot easier when you have a lot of line out. As

the
name of the game on our winter fisheries is to get long deep drifts long
casts combined with a lot of mending is the most common technique. Anyone
who has tried to mend long sections of running line behind a short head

will
know the frustration so there is some merit to these longer heads.

However, for smaller streams and shorter cast I find a DT is easier to

use.

YMMV but I think there is some merit to them. As for strike indicators
(bobbers) I find using yarn and being able to put it at any point on the
leader to suit the conditions or individual fish to be best but we

commonly
use 15' leaders to sighted fish here in NZ. I prefer to fish a dry as a
strike indicator if I have to go to a nymph.

Clark

Thanks Clark,
Had to do a lot of mending on the Trinity and did use the floating frayed
macramé type bobber at times.I actually like it better with no added strike
indicator, but it takes a fast reaction and I had my share of misses, and
that's why I might be interested in the Rio Nymph line with the colored
strike indicator tip. I learned to set the hook by pulling on the line and
moving the rod all in one fast motion. What I really want to know if you can
see the orange tip indicator well when detecting a hit.
Mending is an art, and it's forever changing with the current. There is so
much to learn about fly-fishing, guess that's why I love it.
-tom

Tom, instead of watching a bobber, why not swing for steelies instead?

Peter

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Tom Nakashima December 1st, 2004 10:31 PM

Nymph Line
 

"Peter Charles" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:39:33 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:


"Clark Reid" wrote in message
...
Cortland used to make a nymph indicator line in their 444 series, I

don't
know if they still do. It was popular with the "Landlocked

steelheaders"
around Taupo for a while but has since lost favor.

I use a Teeny Long Shot when nymphing our big rivers because the longer
belly does make mending a lot easier when you have a lot of line out.

As
the
name of the game on our winter fisheries is to get long deep drifts

long
casts combined with a lot of mending is the most common technique.

Anyone
who has tried to mend long sections of running line behind a short head

will
know the frustration so there is some merit to these longer heads.

However, for smaller streams and shorter cast I find a DT is easier to

use.

YMMV but I think there is some merit to them. As for strike indicators
(bobbers) I find using yarn and being able to put it at any point on

the
leader to suit the conditions or individual fish to be best but we

commonly
use 15' leaders to sighted fish here in NZ. I prefer to fish a dry as a
strike indicator if I have to go to a nymph.

Clark

Thanks Clark,
Had to do a lot of mending on the Trinity and did use the floating frayed
macramé type bobber at times.I actually like it better with no added

strike
indicator, but it takes a fast reaction and I had my share of misses, and
that's why I might be interested in the Rio Nymph line with the colored
strike indicator tip. I learned to set the hook by pulling on the line

and
moving the rod all in one fast motion. What I really want to know if you

can
see the orange tip indicator well when detecting a hit.
Mending is an art, and it's forever changing with the current. There is

so
much to learn about fly-fishing, guess that's why I love it.
-tom

Tom, instead of watching a bobber, why not swing for steelies instead?

Peter

Yes Peter,
we tried a varity of methods on the Trinity.
Dead-drift, swing drift, even dry-flies.
The big stellies lay in the pockets, holes, you have to get to these holes
and some are deep.
After releasing 2 pounders from swinging, we put on heavier shots to
dead-drift presenting a trailer even and went for the big ones on advice
from a "Guide" passing through. Sure enough, the big fish are deep and they
hit hard.
I'm still learning the game, I'll be up there again in October next year,
but this time I'll have more experience.
-tom




Tom Nakashima December 1st, 2004 10:31 PM

Nymph Line
 

"Peter Charles" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:39:33 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:


"Clark Reid" wrote in message
...
Cortland used to make a nymph indicator line in their 444 series, I

don't
know if they still do. It was popular with the "Landlocked

steelheaders"
around Taupo for a while but has since lost favor.

I use a Teeny Long Shot when nymphing our big rivers because the longer
belly does make mending a lot easier when you have a lot of line out.

As
the
name of the game on our winter fisheries is to get long deep drifts

long
casts combined with a lot of mending is the most common technique.

Anyone
who has tried to mend long sections of running line behind a short head

will
know the frustration so there is some merit to these longer heads.

However, for smaller streams and shorter cast I find a DT is easier to

use.

YMMV but I think there is some merit to them. As for strike indicators
(bobbers) I find using yarn and being able to put it at any point on

the
leader to suit the conditions or individual fish to be best but we

commonly
use 15' leaders to sighted fish here in NZ. I prefer to fish a dry as a
strike indicator if I have to go to a nymph.

Clark

Thanks Clark,
Had to do a lot of mending on the Trinity and did use the floating frayed
macramé type bobber at times.I actually like it better with no added

strike
indicator, but it takes a fast reaction and I had my share of misses, and
that's why I might be interested in the Rio Nymph line with the colored
strike indicator tip. I learned to set the hook by pulling on the line

and
moving the rod all in one fast motion. What I really want to know if you

can
see the orange tip indicator well when detecting a hit.
Mending is an art, and it's forever changing with the current. There is

so
much to learn about fly-fishing, guess that's why I love it.
-tom

Tom, instead of watching a bobber, why not swing for steelies instead?

Peter

Yes Peter,
we tried a varity of methods on the Trinity.
Dead-drift, swing drift, even dry-flies.
The big stellies lay in the pockets, holes, you have to get to these holes
and some are deep.
After releasing 2 pounders from swinging, we put on heavier shots to
dead-drift presenting a trailer even and went for the big ones on advice
from a "Guide" passing through. Sure enough, the big fish are deep and they
hit hard.
I'm still learning the game, I'll be up there again in October next year,
but this time I'll have more experience.
-tom




Peter Charles December 1st, 2004 10:57 PM

Nymph Line
 
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:31:07 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:


Yes Peter,
we tried a varity of methods on the Trinity.
Dead-drift, swing drift, even dry-flies.
The big stellies lay in the pockets, holes, you have to get to these holes
and some are deep.
After releasing 2 pounders from swinging, we put on heavier shots to
dead-drift presenting a trailer even and went for the big ones on advice
from a "Guide" passing through. Sure enough, the big fish are deep and they
hit hard.
I'm still learning the game, I'll be up there again in October next year,
but this time I'll have more experience.
-tom


It's possible to swing for steelies in pocket water as well. just need
an adjustment on the dead drift approach.

Imagine tossing out the typical bobber rig without the bobber, and
maintaining tension on the line instead of dead drifting. The takes
are violent and way more fun than watching a bobber.

Peter

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Peter Charles December 1st, 2004 10:57 PM

Nymph Line
 
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:31:07 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:


Yes Peter,
we tried a varity of methods on the Trinity.
Dead-drift, swing drift, even dry-flies.
The big stellies lay in the pockets, holes, you have to get to these holes
and some are deep.
After releasing 2 pounders from swinging, we put on heavier shots to
dead-drift presenting a trailer even and went for the big ones on advice
from a "Guide" passing through. Sure enough, the big fish are deep and they
hit hard.
I'm still learning the game, I'll be up there again in October next year,
but this time I'll have more experience.
-tom


It's possible to swing for steelies in pocket water as well. just need
an adjustment on the dead drift approach.

Imagine tossing out the typical bobber rig without the bobber, and
maintaining tension on the line instead of dead drifting. The takes
are violent and way more fun than watching a bobber.

Peter

turn mailhot into hotmail to reply

Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharl...ers/index.html

Tom Nakashima December 3rd, 2004 03:22 PM

Nymph Line
 

"Peter Charles" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:31:07 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:


Yes Peter,
we tried a varity of methods on the Trinity.
Dead-drift, swing drift, even dry-flies.
The big stellies lay in the pockets, holes, you have to get to these

holes
and some are deep.
After releasing 2 pounders from swinging, we put on heavier shots to
dead-drift presenting a trailer even and went for the big ones on advice
from a "Guide" passing through. Sure enough, the big fish are deep and

they
hit hard.
I'm still learning the game, I'll be up there again in October next year,
but this time I'll have more experience.
-tom


It's possible to swing for steelies in pocket water as well. just need
an adjustment on the dead drift approach.

Imagine tossing out the typical bobber rig without the bobber, and
maintaining tension on the line instead of dead drifting. The takes
are violent and way more fun than watching a bobber.

Peter


Thanks Peter for the advice.
I didnt' have a bobber on when "fish-on", so I guess that's swinging.
Casted about a 45 degree up-stream, then started my mend, about 4 seconds
later, I got the hit.
-tom




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