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tying tools, magnifier
Having reached the point where I wish to tie something besides wooly buggers
I have decided to concentrate on the caddis. Buggers, in their variations and methods of fishing are the number one bait, IMHO, for smallmouth bass. Although I am sure many conflicting opinions exist, I have about reached that opinion for caddis and trout. In any event, I am not nor never will be a professional tier. I am not nor will be a tier whose flies are works of art, pretty to look at or even merit showing to others. I am still using the tools and necks I got in the Cabelas kit ten years ago and just purchased another kit (the same) from ebay. So please, do not assume that I am in the market for the 'hot' set-up. What I am in the market for is something to help me see a little better. I need a magnifier. I have looked at Bass pro http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...rTarget=search and Cabelas http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...requestid=6817 Also http://www.ezflyfish.com/mckenmag.html I am thinking that the 'great big around' glass that swings out of the way would be easier for me. If anyone would care to make a comment I would love to here it. I would rather purchase a product from someone here or in ROFF if at all possible. ....Oh great Hackle Masters this humble born of a dyed barnyard rooster neck doth humbly beg your guidance...... john |
tying tools, magnifier
Change 'bait' to 'fly' and 'here' to hear'
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tying tools, magnifier
Change 'bait' to 'fly' and 'here' to hear'
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tying tools, magnifier
John,
YMMV, but I have found the "big round magnifyers" to be a total pain in the ass. Always in the way of something, no matter what position its in. My eyes are terrible in close, so I wear a pair of 4X magnifying glasses and use a strong light. Works well for me for tying down to 26's. George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller |
tying tools, magnifier
Well, I'm already into bi-focals....
What do you think of the flip up flip down kind of glasses that fit over regular glasses, The thingy you wear around your head? Already wearing glasses kinda throws a wrench in the works.. john "George Adams" wrote in message ... John, YMMV, but I have found the "big round magnifyers" to be a total pain in the ass. Always in the way of something, no matter what position its in. My eyes are terrible in close, so I wear a pair of 4X magnifying glasses and use a strong light. Works well for me for tying down to 26's. George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller |
tying tools, magnifier
Well, I'm already into bi-focals....
What do you think of the flip up flip down kind of glasses that fit over regular glasses, The thingy you wear around your head? Already wearing glasses kinda throws a wrench in the works.. john "George Adams" wrote in message ... John, YMMV, but I have found the "big round magnifyers" to be a total pain in the ass. Always in the way of something, no matter what position its in. My eyes are terrible in close, so I wear a pair of 4X magnifying glasses and use a strong light. Works well for me for tying down to 26's. George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller |
tying tools, magnifier
Well, I'm already into bi-focals....
What do you think of the flip up flip down kind of glasses that fit over regular glasses, The thingy you wear around your head? Already wearing glasses kinda throws a wrench in the works.. john "George Adams" wrote in message ... John, YMMV, but I have found the "big round magnifyers" to be a total pain in the ass. Always in the way of something, no matter what position its in. My eyes are terrible in close, so I wear a pair of 4X magnifying glasses and use a strong light. Works well for me for tying down to 26's. George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller |
tying tools, magnifier
"asadi...." wrote .. I need a magnifier. I use a cheap one on a goose neck and heavy pedestal that I got at a hobby store ... 1/8" pipe has the same thread as the neck and I used some, and a angle, to raise it off the pedestal a little and improve the "angle of attack" to keep it more out of my way I have a bigger one with a round florescent light around it too, but prefer the cheapy Mainly, I just wear cheater glasses, with them I can see well enough for 95% of the operations/ flies, and I just pull the little magnifier down for the finest detail and smallest flies The most effective freestone waters caddis patterns that I use are not real small, nor intricate, and work best when tied kinda funky looking and rough .... you may not even need a magnifier oh, oh, AND .... I recently visited my new eye doctor and discussing what types of glasses to get ( new poloroids were first on the list ) I said something about tying and clsoe work and a special pair .... the reply was "Cheaters are probably just as good. Actually, LIGHTING will probably help you more than anything, With good light, your pupils get smaller, and your depth of field bigger, giving the impression of improved focus." I knew this was true with cameras, but didn't know it worked that way for humans, too. Anyway .... think OTT-LITE, ott-Lite, Ott, Lite .... if you don't use one ( I understand there are now other brands of the same light, cheaper?), get one, ..... trust me, just do it G |
tying tools, magnifier
"asadi...." wrote .. I need a magnifier. I use a cheap one on a goose neck and heavy pedestal that I got at a hobby store ... 1/8" pipe has the same thread as the neck and I used some, and a angle, to raise it off the pedestal a little and improve the "angle of attack" to keep it more out of my way I have a bigger one with a round florescent light around it too, but prefer the cheapy Mainly, I just wear cheater glasses, with them I can see well enough for 95% of the operations/ flies, and I just pull the little magnifier down for the finest detail and smallest flies The most effective freestone waters caddis patterns that I use are not real small, nor intricate, and work best when tied kinda funky looking and rough .... you may not even need a magnifier oh, oh, AND .... I recently visited my new eye doctor and discussing what types of glasses to get ( new poloroids were first on the list ) I said something about tying and clsoe work and a special pair .... the reply was "Cheaters are probably just as good. Actually, LIGHTING will probably help you more than anything, With good light, your pupils get smaller, and your depth of field bigger, giving the impression of improved focus." I knew this was true with cameras, but didn't know it worked that way for humans, too. Anyway .... think OTT-LITE, ott-Lite, Ott, Lite .... if you don't use one ( I understand there are now other brands of the same light, cheaper?), get one, ..... trust me, just do it G |
tying tools, magnifier
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:08:22 GMT, "asadi...."
wrote: Well, I'm already into bi-focals.... What do you think of the flip up flip down kind of glasses that fit over regular glasses, The thingy you wear around your head? Already wearing glasses kinda throws a wrench in the works.. I use +2 reading glasses when I'm wearing my contacts, and just take my glasses off for up close work when I'm not. -- Charlie... http://www.chocphoto.com/ - photo galleries http://www.chocphoto.com/roff |
tying tools, magnifier
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:08:22 GMT, "asadi...."
wrote: Well, I'm already into bi-focals.... What do you think of the flip up flip down kind of glasses that fit over regular glasses, The thingy you wear around your head? Already wearing glasses kinda throws a wrench in the works.. I use +2 reading glasses when I'm wearing my contacts, and just take my glasses off for up close work when I'm not. -- Charlie... http://www.chocphoto.com/ - photo galleries http://www.chocphoto.com/roff |
tying tools, magnifier
"asadi...." wrote in
ink.net: So please, do not assume that I am in the market for the 'hot' set-up. What I am in the market for is something to help me see a little better. I need a magnifier. Feather craft sells one that I use (tho I didn't get it there). It goes around your head, flips up when you don't need it, and I think its called "Mag Eyes" or something like that. I have one that bolts to my desk like you showed, and I just use it as a lamp, not a magnifier. Scott |
tying tools, magnifier
"asadi...." wrote in
ink.net: So please, do not assume that I am in the market for the 'hot' set-up. What I am in the market for is something to help me see a little better. I need a magnifier. Feather craft sells one that I use (tho I didn't get it there). It goes around your head, flips up when you don't need it, and I think its called "Mag Eyes" or something like that. I have one that bolts to my desk like you showed, and I just use it as a lamp, not a magnifier. Scott |
tying tools, magnifier
"George Adams" wrote in message ... John, YMMV, but I have found the "big round magnifyers" to be a total pain in the ass. Always in the way of something, no matter what position its in. My eyes are terrible in close, so I wear a pair of 4X magnifying glasses and use a strong light. Works well for me for tying down to 26's. I wear 3.5 (diopter?) reading glasses....the kind that sit down on your nose like granny glasses. Its easy to look over them when I'm hunting for stuff, and simple to look through them when I'm tying. I guess thats why librarians wear them. But I'm very careful to not be seen by SWMBO when I'm tying anything smaller than a #12. --riverman |
tying tools, magnifier
"George Adams" wrote in message ... John, YMMV, but I have found the "big round magnifyers" to be a total pain in the ass. Always in the way of something, no matter what position its in. My eyes are terrible in close, so I wear a pair of 4X magnifying glasses and use a strong light. Works well for me for tying down to 26's. I wear 3.5 (diopter?) reading glasses....the kind that sit down on your nose like granny glasses. Its easy to look over them when I'm hunting for stuff, and simple to look through them when I'm tying. I guess thats why librarians wear them. But I'm very careful to not be seen by SWMBO when I'm tying anything smaller than a #12. --riverman |
tying tools, magnifier
From: "asadi...."
What do you think of the flip up flip down kind of glasses that fit over regular glasses, I would suggest a pait of reading glasses. You can get them at most drug/department stores up to 3.5 diopter or so. If you need something stronger, Orvis, (expensive), has them up to about 5 diopter, and dollar and discount stores generally have some real cheap ones up to about 4. The idea is just to substitute them for your regular glasses when tying. George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller |
tying tools, magnifier
The first thing you should try is a much improved lighting system.
After you have tried thiis you may not need anything else. I purchased a gooseneck lamp with a true color lamp and a large magnifier, also on a gooseneck. Both of these were anchored to a steel plate. An excellent setup but at about $200 US it is a bit expensive. 90% of the time I don't need the magnifier. So get yourself a cheap quartz lamp to try and then go from there. Dave M |
tying tools, magnifier
The first thing you should try is a much improved lighting system.
After you have tried thiis you may not need anything else. I purchased a gooseneck lamp with a true color lamp and a large magnifier, also on a gooseneck. Both of these were anchored to a steel plate. An excellent setup but at about $200 US it is a bit expensive. 90% of the time I don't need the magnifier. So get yourself a cheap quartz lamp to try and then go from there. Dave M |
tying tools, magnifier
wrote in message ... The first thing you should try is a much improved lighting system. After you have tried thiis you may not need anything else. I purchased a gooseneck lamp with a true color lamp and a large magnifier, also on a gooseneck. Both of these were anchored to a steel plate. An excellent setup but at about $200 US it is a bit expensive. 90% of the time I don't need the magnifier. So get yourself a cheap quartz lamp to try and then go from there. Something I've noticed is that it is practically impossible to properly light a clamp-on vice! The vice is attached at the closest edge of the table, and any light you try to set up will be leaning forward over the edge of the table. I've tried gooseneck lamps, but they end up balanced on the edge. I've tried those clamp-on architect's lamps with the long sections, but they end up being right where my arms want to be when I'm reaching for supplies. The only thing that really works well is to have a couple of floor lamps behind me, one over each shoulder, but I end up looking like I'm piloting some spaceship with all that stuff around me. My next vice will be a pedestal vice, maybe for the sole reason that I can light it with a simple table lamp! --riverman |
tying tools, magnifier
wrote in message ... The first thing you should try is a much improved lighting system. After you have tried thiis you may not need anything else. I purchased a gooseneck lamp with a true color lamp and a large magnifier, also on a gooseneck. Both of these were anchored to a steel plate. An excellent setup but at about $200 US it is a bit expensive. 90% of the time I don't need the magnifier. So get yourself a cheap quartz lamp to try and then go from there. Something I've noticed is that it is practically impossible to properly light a clamp-on vice! The vice is attached at the closest edge of the table, and any light you try to set up will be leaning forward over the edge of the table. I've tried gooseneck lamps, but they end up balanced on the edge. I've tried those clamp-on architect's lamps with the long sections, but they end up being right where my arms want to be when I'm reaching for supplies. The only thing that really works well is to have a couple of floor lamps behind me, one over each shoulder, but I end up looking like I'm piloting some spaceship with all that stuff around me. My next vice will be a pedestal vice, maybe for the sole reason that I can light it with a simple table lamp! --riverman |
tying tools, magnifier
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 23:27:01 +0100, "riverman" wrote:
Something I've noticed is that it is practically impossible to properly light a clamp-on vice! I have lots of tying problems, but that's never been one of them. I clamp my vise on the left side of the front edge of my table and my light on the front part of the left edge and it provides good light and isn't in the way (I'm right handed). I have one of those lights with the large magnifier and a circular fluorescent bulb, but I almost never look through the magnifier and just use it as a lamp. -- Charlie... http://www.chocphoto.com/ - photo galleries http://www.chocphoto.com/roff |
tying tools, magnifier
George Adams wrote:
John, YMMV, but I have found the "big round magnifyers" to be a total pain in the ass. Always in the way of something, no matter what position its in. My eyes are terrible in close, so I wear a pair of 4X magnifying glasses and use a strong light. Works well for me for tying down to 26's. Agreed. I've got one of those "big rounders" I donated to SWMBO for her hobby work with beads and switched to head gear. I got one of these: http://tinyurl.com/5gdsg from Orvis' sale room for $16. I like them 'cause they flip up and out of the way when I don't need the magnification, and they fit over my eye glasses. -- TL, Tim --------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ |
tying tools, magnifier
George Adams wrote:
John, YMMV, but I have found the "big round magnifyers" to be a total pain in the ass. Always in the way of something, no matter what position its in. My eyes are terrible in close, so I wear a pair of 4X magnifying glasses and use a strong light. Works well for me for tying down to 26's. Agreed. I've got one of those "big rounders" I donated to SWMBO for her hobby work with beads and switched to head gear. I got one of these: http://tinyurl.com/5gdsg from Orvis' sale room for $16. I like them 'cause they flip up and out of the way when I don't need the magnification, and they fit over my eye glasses. -- TL, Tim --------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ |
tying tools, magnifier
asadi.... wrote:
So please, do not assume that I am in the market for the 'hot' set-up. What I am in the market for is something to help me see a little better. I need a magnifier. http://www.mageyes.com/Hobby.htm |
tying tools, magnifier
asadi.... wrote:
So please, do not assume that I am in the market for the 'hot' set-up. What I am in the market for is something to help me see a little better. I need a magnifier. http://www.mageyes.com/Hobby.htm |
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"Karl Lindholm" wrote in message news:88Fsd.122105$%x.2766@okepread04... asadi.... wrote: So please, do not assume that I am in the market for the 'hot' set-up. What I am in the market for is something to help me see a little better. I need a magnifier. http://www.mageyes.com/Hobby.htm http://www.the-joke-shop.com/showprod.asp?product=595 --riverman |
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riverman wrote:
"Karl Lindholm" wrote in message news:88Fsd.122105$%x.2766@okepread04... asadi.... wrote: So please, do not assume that I am in the market for the 'hot' set-up. What I am in the market for is something to help me see a little better. I need a magnifier. http://www.mageyes.com/Hobby.htm http://www.the-joke-shop.com/showprod.asp?product=595 I only wish I looked that good when I wear mine. ;-) -- TL, Tim --------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ |
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riverman wrote:
"Karl Lindholm" wrote in message news:88Fsd.122105$%x.2766@okepread04... asadi.... wrote: So please, do not assume that I am in the market for the 'hot' set-up. What I am in the market for is something to help me see a little better. I need a magnifier. http://www.mageyes.com/Hobby.htm http://www.the-joke-shop.com/showprod.asp?product=595 I only wish I looked that good when I wear mine. ;-) -- TL, Tim --------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ |
tying tools, magnifier
"asadi...." wrote in message ink.net... Having reached the point where I wish to tie something besides wooly buggers I have decided to concentrate on the caddis. (snip) In any event, I am not nor never will be a professional tier. john John, My suggestion. Grocery store glasses. I have them from about 2.50 to 3.75 in magnification, depending on what I tie and what I may have to tie on when I'm on a stream. I wear contact lenses. I use separate polarized glasses . .. . for lookin' around, on the stream. They run about $15.00 US. My grocery store glasses run about $10.00. ( can sometimes get 3 for about $20.00 or so. I "maim, destroy" about one of each of the grocery store type when I fishin' during a year. I'm kind of hard on glasses. But can get about 3 years on some of the polarized.) For tieing, a 3.75 magnification can get me to pretty dinky stuff. I usually fish size 16- 24 or so. Seems I start out at about a size 18. Caddis on the Arkansas River here in Colorado I may go to a 14 to start. Kind of a PITA sometimes, but I switch glasses onstream between grocery store and polarized, when changing flies. But I use the grocery store type to do both tieing and fishin'. I have one of the "cheap"magnfier type systems. I can't, remember the last time I used it. Most folks "underlight" a system for tieing. More is better. Don't know your eye conditions, but going towards the grocery store option for glasses, and a lot of light. DaveMohnsen, Denver |
tying tools, magnifier
I recently got an 'OTT' light (they're supposed to be the closest thing to
natural light) and I've noticed my eyes don't seem as bugged out when I'm done tying. The light they throw is great - might help in addition to whatever magnifier / glasses you choose. I'm sure google will turn up a bazillion places that sell them online. Cheers! tb http://www.flyreview.com "asadi...." wrote in message ink.net... Having reached the point where I wish to tie something besides wooly buggers I have decided to concentrate on the caddis. Buggers, in their variations and methods of fishing are the number one bait, IMHO, for smallmouth bass. Although I am sure many conflicting opinions exist, I have about reached that opinion for caddis and trout. In any event, I am not nor never will be a professional tier. I am not nor will be a tier whose flies are works of art, pretty to look at or even merit showing to others. I am still using the tools and necks I got in the Cabelas kit ten years ago and just purchased another kit (the same) from ebay. So please, do not assume that I am in the market for the 'hot' set-up. What I am in the market for is something to help me see a little better. I need a magnifier. I have looked at Bass pro http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...rTarget=search and Cabelas http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...requestid=6817 Also http://www.ezflyfish.com/mckenmag.html I am thinking that the 'great big around' glass that swings out of the way would be easier for me. If anyone would care to make a comment I would love to here it. I would rather purchase a product from someone here or in ROFF if at all possible. ...Oh great Hackle Masters this humble born of a dyed barnyard rooster neck doth humbly beg your guidance...... john |
tying tools, magnifier
"asadi...." wrote in message ink.net... Change 'bait' to 'fly' and 'here' to hear' I have and use the cabelas lamp. It generally works pretty well. This past year or so I've come to realize that at close, and I mean close, distances I see better without my glasses, and my bi-focals are worthless for tying. So I have taken to tying without my glasses. Its works pretty well for me when tying, but I have to find my glasses when I need a different material. If I have my contacts in then I have to use reading glasses. jh |
tying tools, magnifier
"asadi...." wrote in message ink.net... Change 'bait' to 'fly' and 'here' to hear' I have and use the cabelas lamp. It generally works pretty well. This past year or so I've come to realize that at close, and I mean close, distances I see better without my glasses, and my bi-focals are worthless for tying. So I have taken to tying without my glasses. Its works pretty well for me when tying, but I have to find my glasses when I need a different material. If I have my contacts in then I have to use reading glasses. jh |
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