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Joshuall December 14th, 2004 09:55 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
I like fishing crank baits and I guess I know the "basics", but I have a ton
of them. In one big box. Some of them may have procreated and made more of
them. My box full is jammed to the top. I've got em all mixed up. I've tried
sorting them. . . by color, by the size of the bill etc. But I still have a
mess.

Just wondering if the group has some suggestions to make my crank bait box
make more sense, assist me in culling out some lures. And just some general
usage suggestions, favorite lures, times of seasons for colors etc. I know
wide wobble in cold water/weather and tighter in warm, but would lilke to
get a better handle on crankbaits. So anything the group has to offer to
help me make more sense out of my collection other than my current
philosophy which seems to be.. "have as many smushed in there as possible in
case some how I get into a situation that requires a certain type and I
don't have it ! g.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



Charles Summers December 14th, 2004 11:03 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
Just send them to me.... I'll sort them out and send you back the ones that
I don't need... I mean, the ones that will work best for you.


"Joshuall" wrote in message
...
I like fishing crank baits and I guess I know the "basics", but I have a

ton
of them. In one big box. Some of them may have procreated and made more of
them. My box full is jammed to the top. I've got em all mixed up. I've

tried
sorting them. . . by color, by the size of the bill etc. But I still have

a
mess.

Just wondering if the group has some suggestions to make my crank bait box
make more sense, assist me in culling out some lures. And just some

general
usage suggestions, favorite lures, times of seasons for colors etc. I know
wide wobble in cold water/weather and tighter in warm, but would lilke to
get a better handle on crankbaits. So anything the group has to offer to
help me make more sense out of my collection other than my current
philosophy which seems to be.. "have as many smushed in there as possible

in
case some how I get into a situation that requires a certain type and I
don't have it ! g.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear





Charles Summers December 14th, 2004 11:03 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
Just send them to me.... I'll sort them out and send you back the ones that
I don't need... I mean, the ones that will work best for you.


"Joshuall" wrote in message
...
I like fishing crank baits and I guess I know the "basics", but I have a

ton
of them. In one big box. Some of them may have procreated and made more of
them. My box full is jammed to the top. I've got em all mixed up. I've

tried
sorting them. . . by color, by the size of the bill etc. But I still have

a
mess.

Just wondering if the group has some suggestions to make my crank bait box
make more sense, assist me in culling out some lures. And just some

general
usage suggestions, favorite lures, times of seasons for colors etc. I know
wide wobble in cold water/weather and tighter in warm, but would lilke to
get a better handle on crankbaits. So anything the group has to offer to
help me make more sense out of my collection other than my current
philosophy which seems to be.. "have as many smushed in there as possible

in
case some how I get into a situation that requires a certain type and I
don't have it ! g.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear





AJH December 14th, 2004 11:56 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
"wide wobble in colder water" I thought it was tight wobble in cold
water...


go-bassn December 15th, 2004 03:53 AM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
Josh, don't know if you've seen the specialty utility boxes made by Falcon
or not, but they might be the answer to your crankbait dilemna. I started
using them this past season & they rock. I employ several to house my
cranks. These utility boxes are made for specific types of lures,
everything from cranks to jigs to spinnerbaits etc. I just use seperate
Falcon crankbait boxes for shallow/medium/deep runners, one for hard
jerkbaits & another for topwaters. These boxes make cranks very easy to
select & manage.

Search Cabelas for "Falcon Boxes", I'd post the link but it was rediculously
long...

http://www.cabelas.com

Warren

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Joshuall" wrote in message
...
I like fishing crank baits and I guess I know the "basics", but I have a
ton of them. In one big box. Some of them may have procreated and made more
of them. My box full is jammed to the top. I've got em all mixed up. I've
tried sorting them. . . by color, by the size of the bill etc. But I still
have a mess.

Just wondering if the group has some suggestions to make my crank bait box
make more sense, assist me in culling out some lures. And just some
general usage suggestions, favorite lures, times of seasons for colors
etc. I know wide wobble in cold water/weather and tighter in warm, but
would lilke to get a better handle on crankbaits. So anything the group
has to offer to help me make more sense out of my collection other than
my current philosophy which seems to be.. "have as many smushed in there
as possible in case some how I get into a situation that requires a
certain type and I don't have it ! g.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear




go-bassn December 15th, 2004 03:53 AM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
Josh, don't know if you've seen the specialty utility boxes made by Falcon
or not, but they might be the answer to your crankbait dilemna. I started
using them this past season & they rock. I employ several to house my
cranks. These utility boxes are made for specific types of lures,
everything from cranks to jigs to spinnerbaits etc. I just use seperate
Falcon crankbait boxes for shallow/medium/deep runners, one for hard
jerkbaits & another for topwaters. These boxes make cranks very easy to
select & manage.

Search Cabelas for "Falcon Boxes", I'd post the link but it was rediculously
long...

http://www.cabelas.com

Warren

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Joshuall" wrote in message
...
I like fishing crank baits and I guess I know the "basics", but I have a
ton of them. In one big box. Some of them may have procreated and made more
of them. My box full is jammed to the top. I've got em all mixed up. I've
tried sorting them. . . by color, by the size of the bill etc. But I still
have a mess.

Just wondering if the group has some suggestions to make my crank bait box
make more sense, assist me in culling out some lures. And just some
general usage suggestions, favorite lures, times of seasons for colors
etc. I know wide wobble in cold water/weather and tighter in warm, but
would lilke to get a better handle on crankbaits. So anything the group
has to offer to help me make more sense out of my collection other than
my current philosophy which seems to be.. "have as many smushed in there
as possible in case some how I get into a situation that requires a
certain type and I don't have it ! g.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear




Calif Bill December 15th, 2004 04:31 AM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
Send them to Al. He will straighen the mess out, and modify the lures so
they all work great.

"Joshuall" wrote in message
...
I like fishing crank baits and I guess I know the "basics", but I have a

ton
of them. In one big box. Some of them may have procreated and made more of
them. My box full is jammed to the top. I've got em all mixed up. I've

tried
sorting them. . . by color, by the size of the bill etc. But I still have

a
mess.

Just wondering if the group has some suggestions to make my crank bait box
make more sense, assist me in culling out some lures. And just some

general
usage suggestions, favorite lures, times of seasons for colors etc. I know
wide wobble in cold water/weather and tighter in warm, but would lilke to
get a better handle on crankbaits. So anything the group has to offer to
help me make more sense out of my collection other than my current
philosophy which seems to be.. "have as many smushed in there as possible

in
case some how I get into a situation that requires a certain type and I
don't have it ! g.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear





Calif Bill December 15th, 2004 04:31 AM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
Send them to Al. He will straighen the mess out, and modify the lures so
they all work great.

"Joshuall" wrote in message
...
I like fishing crank baits and I guess I know the "basics", but I have a

ton
of them. In one big box. Some of them may have procreated and made more of
them. My box full is jammed to the top. I've got em all mixed up. I've

tried
sorting them. . . by color, by the size of the bill etc. But I still have

a
mess.

Just wondering if the group has some suggestions to make my crank bait box
make more sense, assist me in culling out some lures. And just some

general
usage suggestions, favorite lures, times of seasons for colors etc. I know
wide wobble in cold water/weather and tighter in warm, but would lilke to
get a better handle on crankbaits. So anything the group has to offer to
help me make more sense out of my collection other than my current
philosophy which seems to be.. "have as many smushed in there as possible

in
case some how I get into a situation that requires a certain type and I
don't have it ! g.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear





Brad Coovert December 15th, 2004 04:32 AM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
I fish different baits based on water temp, lake I will be at, season, etc.
and only take those baits with me. I use four 3700 Plano's to keep my cranks
in:

1) Lipless baits
2) Suspending baits
3) Flat sided baits - Tight wobble
4) Round sided baits - Wide wobble

Seldom do I have three boxes with me at any time.

I then arrange the boxes by depth in four rows with super shallow, shallow,
medium and deep.

As for colors, I have four color categories: craw, chartreuse, chromes and
shads.

I also like to have rattling baits (usually plastic) and non - rattling baits
(usually wood).


Brad Coovert
Tournament Director, Greenfield Bassmasters
http://www.greenfieldbassmasters.com
Esox Rods - Hand Made In The USA
"For The Toughest Fishing Around"


Brad Coovert December 15th, 2004 04:32 AM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
I fish different baits based on water temp, lake I will be at, season, etc.
and only take those baits with me. I use four 3700 Plano's to keep my cranks
in:

1) Lipless baits
2) Suspending baits
3) Flat sided baits - Tight wobble
4) Round sided baits - Wide wobble

Seldom do I have three boxes with me at any time.

I then arrange the boxes by depth in four rows with super shallow, shallow,
medium and deep.

As for colors, I have four color categories: craw, chartreuse, chromes and
shads.

I also like to have rattling baits (usually plastic) and non - rattling baits
(usually wood).


Brad Coovert
Tournament Director, Greenfield Bassmasters
http://www.greenfieldbassmasters.com
Esox Rods - Hand Made In The USA
"For The Toughest Fishing Around"


Joshuall December 15th, 2004 02:42 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
snort charles

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



Joshuall December 15th, 2004 02:42 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
snort charles

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



Joshuall December 15th, 2004 02:47 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
nope aj its tight warm water wide cold

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



Joshuall December 15th, 2004 02:47 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
nope aj its tight warm water wide cold

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



RGarri7470 December 15th, 2004 04:51 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
nope aj its tight warm water wide cold

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear


I try to let the bass decide - have had great luck on Shadraps in icewater and
on Wiggle Warts in the middle of the summer. Also the reverse of that.
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

AJH December 15th, 2004 05:15 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
I did a little research, seems like Ronnie's right, some say tight
wobble in cold water others say wide. Guess I will try both in the
future...


AJH December 15th, 2004 05:15 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
I did a little research, seems like Ronnie's right, some say tight
wobble in cold water others say wide. Guess I will try both in the
future...


SimRacer December 15th, 2004 08:44 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
Here ya go Warren (ie: Falcon Boxes at Cabelas)

http://tinyurl.com/58935

Went to Cabelas, found the Falcons, and went to Tiny URL to shorten it up.
That URL should be valid for a month or so.

Nice looking boxes. Wal-Mart around here sells one similar, each box has
specific storage spaces for specific types of baits: shallow cranks, hard
jerkbaits, topwaters, etc. But they weren't Falcon. I want to say they were
Shimano brand, similar to these:

http://tinyurl.com/6utja




"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Josh, don't know if you've seen the specialty utility boxes made by Falcon
or not, but they might be the answer to your crankbait dilemna. I started
using them this past season & they rock. I employ several to house my
cranks. These utility boxes are made for specific types of lures,
everything from cranks to jigs to spinnerbaits etc. I just use seperate
Falcon crankbait boxes for shallow/medium/deep runners, one for hard
jerkbaits & another for topwaters. These boxes make cranks very easy to
select & manage.

Search Cabelas for "Falcon Boxes", I'd post the link but it was

rediculously
long...

http://www.cabelas.com

Warren

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Joshuall" wrote in message
...
I like fishing crank baits and I guess I know the "basics", but I have a
ton of them. In one big box. Some of them may have procreated and made

more
of them. My box full is jammed to the top. I've got em all mixed up. I've
tried sorting them. . . by color, by the size of the bill etc. But I

still
have a mess.

Just wondering if the group has some suggestions to make my crank bait

box
make more sense, assist me in culling out some lures. And just some
general usage suggestions, favorite lures, times of seasons for colors
etc. I know wide wobble in cold water/weather and tighter in warm, but
would lilke to get a better handle on crankbaits. So anything the group
has to offer to help me make more sense out of my collection other than
my current philosophy which seems to be.. "have as many smushed in there
as possible in case some how I get into a situation that requires a
certain type and I don't have it ! g.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear






go-bassn December 16th, 2004 02:00 AM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
Thanks alot Sim, the Falcon's really hold up to some punishment too. They
have three sweet latches on each box. I'm sold on em...

Warren

"SimRacer" wrote in message
m...
Here ya go Warren (ie: Falcon Boxes at Cabelas)

http://tinyurl.com/58935

Went to Cabelas, found the Falcons, and went to Tiny URL to shorten it up.
That URL should be valid for a month or so.

Nice looking boxes. Wal-Mart around here sells one similar, each box has
specific storage spaces for specific types of baits: shallow cranks, hard
jerkbaits, topwaters, etc. But they weren't Falcon. I want to say they

were
Shimano brand, similar to these:

http://tinyurl.com/6utja




"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Josh, don't know if you've seen the specialty utility boxes made by

Falcon
or not, but they might be the answer to your crankbait dilemna. I

started
using them this past season & they rock. I employ several to house my
cranks. These utility boxes are made for specific types of lures,
everything from cranks to jigs to spinnerbaits etc. I just use seperate
Falcon crankbait boxes for shallow/medium/deep runners, one for hard
jerkbaits & another for topwaters. These boxes make cranks very easy to
select & manage.

Search Cabelas for "Falcon Boxes", I'd post the link but it was

rediculously
long...

http://www.cabelas.com

Warren

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Joshuall" wrote in message
...
I like fishing crank baits and I guess I know the "basics", but I have

a
ton of them. In one big box. Some of them may have procreated and made

more
of them. My box full is jammed to the top. I've got em all mixed up.

I've
tried sorting them. . . by color, by the size of the bill etc. But I

still
have a mess.

Just wondering if the group has some suggestions to make my crank bait

box
make more sense, assist me in culling out some lures. And just some
general usage suggestions, favorite lures, times of seasons for colors
etc. I know wide wobble in cold water/weather and tighter in warm, but
would lilke to get a better handle on crankbaits. So anything the

group
has to offer to help me make more sense out of my collection other

than
my current philosophy which seems to be.. "have as many smushed in

there
as possible in case some how I get into a situation that requires a
certain type and I don't have it ! g.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear








go-bassn December 16th, 2004 02:00 AM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
Thanks alot Sim, the Falcon's really hold up to some punishment too. They
have three sweet latches on each box. I'm sold on em...

Warren

"SimRacer" wrote in message
m...
Here ya go Warren (ie: Falcon Boxes at Cabelas)

http://tinyurl.com/58935

Went to Cabelas, found the Falcons, and went to Tiny URL to shorten it up.
That URL should be valid for a month or so.

Nice looking boxes. Wal-Mart around here sells one similar, each box has
specific storage spaces for specific types of baits: shallow cranks, hard
jerkbaits, topwaters, etc. But they weren't Falcon. I want to say they

were
Shimano brand, similar to these:

http://tinyurl.com/6utja




"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Josh, don't know if you've seen the specialty utility boxes made by

Falcon
or not, but they might be the answer to your crankbait dilemna. I

started
using them this past season & they rock. I employ several to house my
cranks. These utility boxes are made for specific types of lures,
everything from cranks to jigs to spinnerbaits etc. I just use seperate
Falcon crankbait boxes for shallow/medium/deep runners, one for hard
jerkbaits & another for topwaters. These boxes make cranks very easy to
select & manage.

Search Cabelas for "Falcon Boxes", I'd post the link but it was

rediculously
long...

http://www.cabelas.com

Warren

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Joshuall" wrote in message
...
I like fishing crank baits and I guess I know the "basics", but I have

a
ton of them. In one big box. Some of them may have procreated and made

more
of them. My box full is jammed to the top. I've got em all mixed up.

I've
tried sorting them. . . by color, by the size of the bill etc. But I

still
have a mess.

Just wondering if the group has some suggestions to make my crank bait

box
make more sense, assist me in culling out some lures. And just some
general usage suggestions, favorite lures, times of seasons for colors
etc. I know wide wobble in cold water/weather and tighter in warm, but
would lilke to get a better handle on crankbaits. So anything the

group
has to offer to help me make more sense out of my collection other

than
my current philosophy which seems to be.. "have as many smushed in

there
as possible in case some how I get into a situation that requires a
certain type and I don't have it ! g.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear








go-bassn December 16th, 2004 02:00 AM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
Thanks alot Sim, the Falcon's really hold up to some punishment too. They
have three sweet latches on each box. I'm sold on em...

Warren

"SimRacer" wrote in message
m...
Here ya go Warren (ie: Falcon Boxes at Cabelas)

http://tinyurl.com/58935

Went to Cabelas, found the Falcons, and went to Tiny URL to shorten it up.
That URL should be valid for a month or so.

Nice looking boxes. Wal-Mart around here sells one similar, each box has
specific storage spaces for specific types of baits: shallow cranks, hard
jerkbaits, topwaters, etc. But they weren't Falcon. I want to say they

were
Shimano brand, similar to these:

http://tinyurl.com/6utja




"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Josh, don't know if you've seen the specialty utility boxes made by

Falcon
or not, but they might be the answer to your crankbait dilemna. I

started
using them this past season & they rock. I employ several to house my
cranks. These utility boxes are made for specific types of lures,
everything from cranks to jigs to spinnerbaits etc. I just use seperate
Falcon crankbait boxes for shallow/medium/deep runners, one for hard
jerkbaits & another for topwaters. These boxes make cranks very easy to
select & manage.

Search Cabelas for "Falcon Boxes", I'd post the link but it was

rediculously
long...

http://www.cabelas.com

Warren

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Joshuall" wrote in message
...
I like fishing crank baits and I guess I know the "basics", but I have

a
ton of them. In one big box. Some of them may have procreated and made

more
of them. My box full is jammed to the top. I've got em all mixed up.

I've
tried sorting them. . . by color, by the size of the bill etc. But I

still
have a mess.

Just wondering if the group has some suggestions to make my crank bait

box
make more sense, assist me in culling out some lures. And just some
general usage suggestions, favorite lures, times of seasons for colors
etc. I know wide wobble in cold water/weather and tighter in warm, but
would lilke to get a better handle on crankbaits. So anything the

group
has to offer to help me make more sense out of my collection other

than
my current philosophy which seems to be.. "have as many smushed in

there
as possible in case some how I get into a situation that requires a
certain type and I don't have it ! g.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear








SimRacer December 16th, 2004 05:38 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Thanks alot Sim, the Falcon's really hold up to some punishment too. They
have three sweet latches on each box. I'm sold on em...

Warren


Sounds like the deal Warren. I ever get ready to replace any of my standard
boxes and look for specialized ones like those, I'll give them a look since
you have a high regard for them. I currently just use the Plano boxes that
fit in my bags and make do. So far so good with those, but I may decide to
try something new sometime. When I started building up my fishing tools
again a couple seasons ago, I focused on the rods and reels
(Daiwa-Shimano/St Croix-Fenwick), and boat, and just got some basic tackle
bags for storage. Maybe I need to redress that this "off" season before I go
out again in January? lol Nah, I'll probably just go for some new line and
replace the couple crankbaits that these toothy pickeral critters have torn
up...



SimRacer December 16th, 2004 05:38 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Thanks alot Sim, the Falcon's really hold up to some punishment too. They
have three sweet latches on each box. I'm sold on em...

Warren


Sounds like the deal Warren. I ever get ready to replace any of my standard
boxes and look for specialized ones like those, I'll give them a look since
you have a high regard for them. I currently just use the Plano boxes that
fit in my bags and make do. So far so good with those, but I may decide to
try something new sometime. When I started building up my fishing tools
again a couple seasons ago, I focused on the rods and reels
(Daiwa-Shimano/St Croix-Fenwick), and boat, and just got some basic tackle
bags for storage. Maybe I need to redress that this "off" season before I go
out again in January? lol Nah, I'll probably just go for some new line and
replace the couple crankbaits that these toothy pickeral critters have torn
up...



go-bassn December 17th, 2004 02:53 AM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
I carry all my cranks with me at all times. One of my favorite tricks is to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended to be
used in. Really stirs things up down there if the grass isn't too thick,
deadly where sand & rocks mix.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Brad Coovert" wrote in message
...
I fish different baits based on water temp, lake I will be at, season, etc.
and only take those baits with me. I use four 3700 Plano's to keep my
cranks
in:

1) Lipless baits
2) Suspending baits
3) Flat sided baits - Tight wobble
4) Round sided baits - Wide wobble

Seldom do I have three boxes with me at any time.

I then arrange the boxes by depth in four rows with super shallow,
shallow,
medium and deep.

As for colors, I have four color categories: craw, chartreuse, chromes and
shads.

I also like to have rattling baits (usually plastic) and non - rattling
baits
(usually wood).


Brad Coovert
Tournament Director, Greenfield Bassmasters
http://www.greenfieldbassmasters.com
Esox Rods - Hand Made In The USA
"For The Toughest Fishing Around"




go-bassn December 17th, 2004 02:53 AM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
I carry all my cranks with me at all times. One of my favorite tricks is to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended to be
used in. Really stirs things up down there if the grass isn't too thick,
deadly where sand & rocks mix.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Brad Coovert" wrote in message
...
I fish different baits based on water temp, lake I will be at, season, etc.
and only take those baits with me. I use four 3700 Plano's to keep my
cranks
in:

1) Lipless baits
2) Suspending baits
3) Flat sided baits - Tight wobble
4) Round sided baits - Wide wobble

Seldom do I have three boxes with me at any time.

I then arrange the boxes by depth in four rows with super shallow,
shallow,
medium and deep.

As for colors, I have four color categories: craw, chartreuse, chromes and
shads.

I also like to have rattling baits (usually plastic) and non - rattling
baits
(usually wood).


Brad Coovert
Tournament Director, Greenfield Bassmasters
http://www.greenfieldbassmasters.com
Esox Rods - Hand Made In The USA
"For The Toughest Fishing Around"




go-bassn December 17th, 2004 02:53 AM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
It's what the bass say that counts right?

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"AJH" wrote in message
...
I did a little research, seems like Ronnie's right, some say tight
wobble in cold water others say wide. Guess I will try both in the
future...




go-bassn December 17th, 2004 02:53 AM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
It's what the bass say that counts right?

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"AJH" wrote in message
...
I did a little research, seems like Ronnie's right, some say tight
wobble in cold water others say wide. Guess I will try both in the
future...




SimRacer December 17th, 2004 07:44 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I hear ya, by the time I get settled in my new house I might have to beg

for
lures at the launch-ramps next season.

--
Warren


LOL! Heard that. Buying a house (and its mortgage) is an intimidating thing,
even if you've already had one in the past. I'm sure your lure selection
will be just fine come the tourney season however. I have been asked to
actually fish in some team-tourneys around here next year myself. So I guess
if I take the plunge I won't be able to poormouth myself next year and say
"Well, I don't tourney fish, but..." lol I figure I'll try it at least once
as a non-boater and see how it goes. Apparently my insistance on fishing
just a few bodies of water until I could learn them has caught some local
attention. We'll see, maybe. I have been able to boat some quality fish
these past few months, so my patience/persistence must be paying off. I
still can't seem to put 5 good fish together for a full bag though, but I
can usually get a good one or two decent ones on-board each day at least.
Hence the team concept, maybe the boater-partner can find more qauntity to
fill out a limit for us. We'll see, it may be me asking for product samples
next year at blast-offs! ;-)




SimRacer December 17th, 2004 07:44 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I hear ya, by the time I get settled in my new house I might have to beg

for
lures at the launch-ramps next season.

--
Warren


LOL! Heard that. Buying a house (and its mortgage) is an intimidating thing,
even if you've already had one in the past. I'm sure your lure selection
will be just fine come the tourney season however. I have been asked to
actually fish in some team-tourneys around here next year myself. So I guess
if I take the plunge I won't be able to poormouth myself next year and say
"Well, I don't tourney fish, but..." lol I figure I'll try it at least once
as a non-boater and see how it goes. Apparently my insistance on fishing
just a few bodies of water until I could learn them has caught some local
attention. We'll see, maybe. I have been able to boat some quality fish
these past few months, so my patience/persistence must be paying off. I
still can't seem to put 5 good fish together for a full bag though, but I
can usually get a good one or two decent ones on-board each day at least.
Hence the team concept, maybe the boater-partner can find more qauntity to
fill out a limit for us. We'll see, it may be me asking for product samples
next year at blast-offs! ;-)




SimRacer December 17th, 2004 07:56 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I carry all my cranks with me at all times. One of my favorite tricks is

to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended to

be
used in. Really stirs things up down there if the grass isn't too thick,
deadly where sand & rocks mix.


I agree Warren. It's worth a few snag ups here and there to bang a crankbait
off something in the water (the bottom, rocks, branches). I dunno if it
because most casual anglers just swim their baits or what, but usually I get
bit more when the bait is "swimming" into stuff.

My personal best big bass was caught in less than 2ft of water this way. I
overthrew a rat-l-trap onto a bank (cold air, cold water, fish "should've"
been deep) but some warm water runoff had the water in this particular cove
stained up. Yanked it enough to get it cleanly airborne off the bank, it
skipped off a branch sticking up out of the water about 3 feet into the
waterline, and landed right beside it, on my, the boat side of the branch. I
let it sink and sit for about 5 seconds, and within two pulls (I was
yo-yo'ing lipless cranks that day) the fish and the fight were both on.
Everyone else on the water that day were fishing jigs on deeper drop offs,
and ledges, presumably where the thermocline was. We boated that 10 lb'er
that day, and a couple that were in the 3 lb range as well and the most
other fish we saw caught were some little bitty buck bass, "maybe" keepers,
but well under that lake's slot limit (16"-20"). So even on a cold day, at
the end of February, stirring things up a little can help apparently. As
well as thinking outside the box and not thinking the rules for certain
weather conditions are set into stone. These critters are smart, and know
all the rules by now too I reckon, so I break the rules a lot just to see if
I can trick another big'un into the bought on occasion.



SimRacer December 17th, 2004 07:56 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I carry all my cranks with me at all times. One of my favorite tricks is

to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended to

be
used in. Really stirs things up down there if the grass isn't too thick,
deadly where sand & rocks mix.


I agree Warren. It's worth a few snag ups here and there to bang a crankbait
off something in the water (the bottom, rocks, branches). I dunno if it
because most casual anglers just swim their baits or what, but usually I get
bit more when the bait is "swimming" into stuff.

My personal best big bass was caught in less than 2ft of water this way. I
overthrew a rat-l-trap onto a bank (cold air, cold water, fish "should've"
been deep) but some warm water runoff had the water in this particular cove
stained up. Yanked it enough to get it cleanly airborne off the bank, it
skipped off a branch sticking up out of the water about 3 feet into the
waterline, and landed right beside it, on my, the boat side of the branch. I
let it sink and sit for about 5 seconds, and within two pulls (I was
yo-yo'ing lipless cranks that day) the fish and the fight were both on.
Everyone else on the water that day were fishing jigs on deeper drop offs,
and ledges, presumably where the thermocline was. We boated that 10 lb'er
that day, and a couple that were in the 3 lb range as well and the most
other fish we saw caught were some little bitty buck bass, "maybe" keepers,
but well under that lake's slot limit (16"-20"). So even on a cold day, at
the end of February, stirring things up a little can help apparently. As
well as thinking outside the box and not thinking the rules for certain
weather conditions are set into stone. These critters are smart, and know
all the rules by now too I reckon, so I break the rules a lot just to see if
I can trick another big'un into the bought on occasion.



Brad Coovert December 17th, 2004 09:53 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
I carry all my cranks with me at all times.

You got more room in that boat of yours!

I will toss in a few baits from my other boxes "just in case", but I seldom
stray from what I normally do.

One of my favorite tricks is to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended to be
used in.


You know, I've read about this and have wanted to try it, but I have yet to do
it. Kinda like a lot of other fishing stuff. Lots of plans, but yet to try.

Brad Coovert
Tournament Director, Greenfield Bassmasters
http://www.greenfieldbassmasters.com
Esox Rods - Hand Made In The USA
"For The Toughest Fishing Around"


Brad Coovert December 17th, 2004 09:53 PM

Crank Baits Suggestion
 
I carry all my cranks with me at all times.

You got more room in that boat of yours!

I will toss in a few baits from my other boxes "just in case", but I seldom
stray from what I normally do.

One of my favorite tricks is to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended to be
used in.


You know, I've read about this and have wanted to try it, but I have yet to do
it. Kinda like a lot of other fishing stuff. Lots of plans, but yet to try.

Brad Coovert
Tournament Director, Greenfield Bassmasters
http://www.greenfieldbassmasters.com
Esox Rods - Hand Made In The USA
"For The Toughest Fishing Around"


go-bassn January 4th, 2005 04:01 PM

Good strategies Sim, nice job! I yoyo the lipless cranks in cold water
myself, if that doesn't work I burn em as fast as I can reel. Good stuff...

WW

"SimRacer" wrote in message
. ..

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I carry all my cranks with me at all times. One of my favorite tricks

is
to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended

to
be
used in. Really stirs things up down there if the grass isn't too

thick,
deadly where sand & rocks mix.


I agree Warren. It's worth a few snag ups here and there to bang a

crankbait
off something in the water (the bottom, rocks, branches). I dunno if it
because most casual anglers just swim their baits or what, but usually I

get
bit more when the bait is "swimming" into stuff.

My personal best big bass was caught in less than 2ft of water this way. I
overthrew a rat-l-trap onto a bank (cold air, cold water, fish "should've"
been deep) but some warm water runoff had the water in this particular

cove
stained up. Yanked it enough to get it cleanly airborne off the bank, it
skipped off a branch sticking up out of the water about 3 feet into the
waterline, and landed right beside it, on my, the boat side of the branch.

I
let it sink and sit for about 5 seconds, and within two pulls (I was
yo-yo'ing lipless cranks that day) the fish and the fight were both on.
Everyone else on the water that day were fishing jigs on deeper drop offs,
and ledges, presumably where the thermocline was. We boated that 10 lb'er
that day, and a couple that were in the 3 lb range as well and the most
other fish we saw caught were some little bitty buck bass, "maybe"

keepers,
but well under that lake's slot limit (16"-20"). So even on a cold day, at
the end of February, stirring things up a little can help apparently. As
well as thinking outside the box and not thinking the rules for certain
weather conditions are set into stone. These critters are smart, and know
all the rules by now too I reckon, so I break the rules a lot just to see

if
I can trick another big'un into the bought on occasion.





go-bassn January 4th, 2005 04:04 PM

"SimRacer" wrote in message
. ..
I have been asked to
actually fish in some team-tourneys around here next year myself.


I know you're not a tournament gey (yet) Sim, but this simply will not due.
You can't fish a team tourney yourself, you simply have to find a partner!

Warren ;-)




go-bassn January 4th, 2005 04:04 PM

"SimRacer" wrote in message
. ..
I have been asked to
actually fish in some team-tourneys around here next year myself.


I know you're not a tournament gey (yet) Sim, but this simply will not due.
You can't fish a team tourney yourself, you simply have to find a partner!

Warren ;-)




SimRacer January 4th, 2005 07:18 PM


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
"SimRacer" wrote in message
. ..
I have been asked to
actually fish in some team-tourneys around here next year myself.


I know you're not a tournament gey (yet) Sim, but this simply will not

due.
You can't fish a team tourney yourself, you simply have to find a partner!

Warren ;-)



LOL! Yes, I know. I should've said I was invited by a current tourney man,
that needs a new partner. We met at the local cheese and cracker/soda/bait
shop and have talked at a couple of local boat ramps before too. Nice fella,
has a glitter rocket (newish Triton Tr 21x), and has invited me to fish with
him starting next month, to see how it goes. He was the one that ultimately
ended up getting the mount done on my big fish from last year so I guess you
could say he is "my taxidermist" now too. He thinks we'll mesh well because
he descirbes me as a "quality/trophy fish hunter" and calls himself the
crank and catch tournament guy, looking for the 5-7* heaviest fish he can
boat any particular day (*some one-day, 2-man tourneys around here weigh in
7 fish since 2 people can retain up 5 fish each in our state, per day). I
can't usually put a full livewell together, but I always seem to find 1 or 2
fish each trip that are over 4-5 lbs (on average, of course I zero at times
too). So he figures it's worth a try, and we've become decent friends over
the past year and I think he trusts me to behave and act right on his boat
in a tourney situation. I have committed to their first tourney, which is on
one of my "home" lakes, so we shall see I guess.

It is by far the best situation I've found to get to try tourney fishing. I
wanted to hook up with someone I at least knew, and also want to be a
non-boater as I don't really have a rig suitable for tournaments. It could
work, it meets the local standards (16+ feet, large livewell, et all) but it
's not really designed for anything more than a casual angler such a myself,
for weekend fun and the occasional mid-week "sick" days when the water hits
the right temp and I am so sick that I "need" to be on the water for the
cure... ;-)

I'd love to hook up with the ROFB group sometime too, but my schedule
doesn't really allow me to block off the travel time to the various distant
places you all go/have been of late. You all ever get within an area bounded
by Kerr Res/Buggs Isl. VA to the North, Santee Cooper to the South and East
of the TN mountains, I could prolly make it. Otherwise, I can't. I own my
own business and days off mean no pay...no pay means no gas money, you get
the gist. LOL! That area includes a lot of nice bassin lakes: Harris, Jordan
and Falls near Raleigh. Wiley, Norman, and High Rock near Charlotte, Kerr
Res/Buggs Island and Gaston lakes on the NC/VA line, and so on. Just FYI
though, none of them hawglike Florida-strain critters live up here that I am
aware of, so fisher beware. They don't get "that" big down/over/up here in
NC.



SimRacer January 4th, 2005 07:18 PM


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
"SimRacer" wrote in message
. ..
I have been asked to
actually fish in some team-tourneys around here next year myself.


I know you're not a tournament gey (yet) Sim, but this simply will not

due.
You can't fish a team tourney yourself, you simply have to find a partner!

Warren ;-)



LOL! Yes, I know. I should've said I was invited by a current tourney man,
that needs a new partner. We met at the local cheese and cracker/soda/bait
shop and have talked at a couple of local boat ramps before too. Nice fella,
has a glitter rocket (newish Triton Tr 21x), and has invited me to fish with
him starting next month, to see how it goes. He was the one that ultimately
ended up getting the mount done on my big fish from last year so I guess you
could say he is "my taxidermist" now too. He thinks we'll mesh well because
he descirbes me as a "quality/trophy fish hunter" and calls himself the
crank and catch tournament guy, looking for the 5-7* heaviest fish he can
boat any particular day (*some one-day, 2-man tourneys around here weigh in
7 fish since 2 people can retain up 5 fish each in our state, per day). I
can't usually put a full livewell together, but I always seem to find 1 or 2
fish each trip that are over 4-5 lbs (on average, of course I zero at times
too). So he figures it's worth a try, and we've become decent friends over
the past year and I think he trusts me to behave and act right on his boat
in a tourney situation. I have committed to their first tourney, which is on
one of my "home" lakes, so we shall see I guess.

It is by far the best situation I've found to get to try tourney fishing. I
wanted to hook up with someone I at least knew, and also want to be a
non-boater as I don't really have a rig suitable for tournaments. It could
work, it meets the local standards (16+ feet, large livewell, et all) but it
's not really designed for anything more than a casual angler such a myself,
for weekend fun and the occasional mid-week "sick" days when the water hits
the right temp and I am so sick that I "need" to be on the water for the
cure... ;-)

I'd love to hook up with the ROFB group sometime too, but my schedule
doesn't really allow me to block off the travel time to the various distant
places you all go/have been of late. You all ever get within an area bounded
by Kerr Res/Buggs Isl. VA to the North, Santee Cooper to the South and East
of the TN mountains, I could prolly make it. Otherwise, I can't. I own my
own business and days off mean no pay...no pay means no gas money, you get
the gist. LOL! That area includes a lot of nice bassin lakes: Harris, Jordan
and Falls near Raleigh. Wiley, Norman, and High Rock near Charlotte, Kerr
Res/Buggs Island and Gaston lakes on the NC/VA line, and so on. Just FYI
though, none of them hawglike Florida-strain critters live up here that I am
aware of, so fisher beware. They don't get "that" big down/over/up here in
NC.



SimRacer January 4th, 2005 07:28 PM


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Good strategies Sim, nice job! I yoyo the lipless cranks in cold water
myself, if that doesn't work I burn em as fast as I can reel. Good

stuff...

That's my modus operandi Warren. And if those two fail, I get out a
spinnerbait. How crazy is that? Crazy, I know, but it works. I start out
slow rolling it and speed it up if nothing happens. Last thing I try then,
if all else fails, is using a spinnerbait like a jig. I've caught some
unsuspecting bucket mouths that way too. Especially in stained water where
the falling blades give it a little more "visual" if I have a darker skirt
on it, I guess. I still struggle with enticing fish with regular jigs, so I
am backing into it by using something I know *ok* enough to emulate one.
Last month, after the water started to cool a little, I even caught a fish
using a spinnerbait with the skirt removed, with small gold colorado type
blades, and a 4" red/flake senko on the hook as a trailor. Just bouncing it
down a riprap-ledge like a regular jig. My fishing buddy thought I was nuts
for even trying it until I hooked and boated a solid 3# fish with it. (We
only caught 3 fish all day...) I figured those poor fish see SO many c-rigs
in their lifes on that riprap, that something different might get me an
extra bite or two, and it did. Granted, our other 2 fish were caught on
c-rigged lizards that day, so it ain't all bad advice I guess.

WW

"SimRacer" wrote in message
. ..

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I carry all my cranks with me at all times. One of my favorite tricks

is
to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended

to
be
used in. Really stirs things up down there if the grass isn't too

thick,
deadly where sand & rocks mix.


I agree Warren. It's worth a few snag ups here and there to bang a

crankbait
off something in the water (the bottom, rocks, branches). I dunno if it
because most casual anglers just swim their baits or what, but usually I

get
bit more when the bait is "swimming" into stuff.

My personal best big bass was caught in less than 2ft of water this way.

I
overthrew a rat-l-trap onto a bank (cold air, cold water, fish

"should've"
been deep) but some warm water runoff had the water in this particular

cove
stained up. Yanked it enough to get it cleanly airborne off the bank, it
skipped off a branch sticking up out of the water about 3 feet into the
waterline, and landed right beside it, on my, the boat side of the

branch.
I
let it sink and sit for about 5 seconds, and within two pulls (I was
yo-yo'ing lipless cranks that day) the fish and the fight were both on.
Everyone else on the water that day were fishing jigs on deeper drop

offs,
and ledges, presumably where the thermocline was. We boated that 10

lb'er
that day, and a couple that were in the 3 lb range as well and the most
other fish we saw caught were some little bitty buck bass, "maybe"

keepers,
but well under that lake's slot limit (16"-20"). So even on a cold day,

at
the end of February, stirring things up a little can help apparently. As
well as thinking outside the box and not thinking the rules for certain
weather conditions are set into stone. These critters are smart, and

know
all the rules by now too I reckon, so I break the rules a lot just to

see
if
I can trick another big'un into the bought on occasion.







SimRacer January 4th, 2005 07:28 PM


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Good strategies Sim, nice job! I yoyo the lipless cranks in cold water
myself, if that doesn't work I burn em as fast as I can reel. Good

stuff...

That's my modus operandi Warren. And if those two fail, I get out a
spinnerbait. How crazy is that? Crazy, I know, but it works. I start out
slow rolling it and speed it up if nothing happens. Last thing I try then,
if all else fails, is using a spinnerbait like a jig. I've caught some
unsuspecting bucket mouths that way too. Especially in stained water where
the falling blades give it a little more "visual" if I have a darker skirt
on it, I guess. I still struggle with enticing fish with regular jigs, so I
am backing into it by using something I know *ok* enough to emulate one.
Last month, after the water started to cool a little, I even caught a fish
using a spinnerbait with the skirt removed, with small gold colorado type
blades, and a 4" red/flake senko on the hook as a trailor. Just bouncing it
down a riprap-ledge like a regular jig. My fishing buddy thought I was nuts
for even trying it until I hooked and boated a solid 3# fish with it. (We
only caught 3 fish all day...) I figured those poor fish see SO many c-rigs
in their lifes on that riprap, that something different might get me an
extra bite or two, and it did. Granted, our other 2 fish were caught on
c-rigged lizards that day, so it ain't all bad advice I guess.

WW

"SimRacer" wrote in message
. ..

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I carry all my cranks with me at all times. One of my favorite tricks

is
to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended

to
be
used in. Really stirs things up down there if the grass isn't too

thick,
deadly where sand & rocks mix.


I agree Warren. It's worth a few snag ups here and there to bang a

crankbait
off something in the water (the bottom, rocks, branches). I dunno if it
because most casual anglers just swim their baits or what, but usually I

get
bit more when the bait is "swimming" into stuff.

My personal best big bass was caught in less than 2ft of water this way.

I
overthrew a rat-l-trap onto a bank (cold air, cold water, fish

"should've"
been deep) but some warm water runoff had the water in this particular

cove
stained up. Yanked it enough to get it cleanly airborne off the bank, it
skipped off a branch sticking up out of the water about 3 feet into the
waterline, and landed right beside it, on my, the boat side of the

branch.
I
let it sink and sit for about 5 seconds, and within two pulls (I was
yo-yo'ing lipless cranks that day) the fish and the fight were both on.
Everyone else on the water that day were fishing jigs on deeper drop

offs,
and ledges, presumably where the thermocline was. We boated that 10

lb'er
that day, and a couple that were in the 3 lb range as well and the most
other fish we saw caught were some little bitty buck bass, "maybe"

keepers,
but well under that lake's slot limit (16"-20"). So even on a cold day,

at
the end of February, stirring things up a little can help apparently. As
well as thinking outside the box and not thinking the rules for certain
weather conditions are set into stone. These critters are smart, and

know
all the rules by now too I reckon, so I break the rules a lot just to

see
if
I can trick another big'un into the bought on occasion.








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