Favorite Scud Pattern?
 

Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river 4'-9'
use?

I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out there
that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something spectacular?

Thanks in advance, Chris

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:18:57 -0800, "Padishar Creel"
wrote:

Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river 4'-9'
use?

I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out there
that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something spectacular?

Thanks in advance, Chris

No secret here. Olive or gray Hare's Ear Plus (Antron/Hare's Ear)
wrapped over a #12-#16 scud or wet fly hook. A few wraps of lead wire
for weight under that and a shellback of poly bag material ribbed with
either extra fine copper wire or brown tying thread pulled over the
top. I also tie a pink version with ribbing of flourescent pink tying
thread. I use a piece of velcro to fuzz up the body.

Pretty standard pattern, I'm afraid.

g.c.

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:18:57 -0800, "Padishar Creel"
wrote:

Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river 4'-9'
use?

I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out there
that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something spectacular?

Thanks in advance, Chris

No secret here. Olive or gray Hare's Ear Plus (Antron/Hare's Ear)
wrapped over a #12-#16 scud or wet fly hook. A few wraps of lead wire
for weight under that and a shellback of poly bag material ribbed with
either extra fine copper wire or brown tying thread pulled over the
top. I also tie a pink version with ribbing of flourescent pink tying
thread. I use a piece of velcro to fuzz up the body.

Pretty standard pattern, I'm afraid.

g.c.

Best producing scud on the Northfork & White Rivers is the same pattern
George mentions below, but a little to the gray and without the shellback -
no sparkle. Trim fur on top kind of close and leave the bottom the length of
the gape. Ugly is Good.
Guy

"George Cleveland" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:18:57 -0800, "Padishar Creel"
wrote:

Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river
4'-9'
use?

I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out
there
that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something
spectacular?

Thanks in advance, Chris

No secret here. Olive or gray Hare's Ear Plus (Antron/Hare's Ear)
wrapped over a #12-#16 scud or wet fly hook. A few wraps of lead wire
for weight under that and a shellback of poly bag material ribbed with
either extra fine copper wire or brown tying thread pulled over the
top. I also tie a pink version with ribbing of flourescent pink tying
thread. I use a piece of velcro to fuzz up the body.

Pretty standard pattern, I'm afraid.

g.c.

"Padishar Creel" wrote in message
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Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river
4'-9'
use?


I don't have a *favorite*, only tie and use one generic pattern. However one
of the most recent fly rod and reel issues, or maybe it was fly fisherman,
had a rather good article on scuds and scud imitation. If you can't find a
copy, email me a fax number and I'll get you a copy.

"Padishar Creel" wrote in message
...
Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river
4'-9'
use?


I don't have a *favorite*, only tie and use one generic pattern. However one
of the most recent fly rod and reel issues, or maybe it was fly fisherman,
had a rather good article on scuds and scud imitation. If you can't find a
copy, email me a fax number and I'll get you a copy.

Padishar Creel wrote:
Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river 4'-9'
use?

I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out there
that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something spectacular?

Thanks in advance, Chris


Here's a recipe for you. Even has a picture.

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/cn...vid.htm#flyhcs

but I tend to use scuds mostly in lakes.

Tim Lysyk

Padishar Creel wrote:
Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river 4'-9'
use?

I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out there
that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something spectacular?

Thanks in advance, Chris


Here's a recipe for you. Even has a picture.

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/cn...vid.htm#flyhcs

but I tend to use scuds mostly in lakes.

Tim Lysyk

"Guy Thornberg" wrote in message
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Best producing scud on the Northfork & White Rivers is the same pattern
George mentions below, but a little to the gray and without the
shellback -
no sparkle. Trim fur on top kind of close and leave the bottom the length
of
the gape. Ugly is Good.
Guy
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Guy, I can tie Ugly better than most! Most of my fllies are damn ugly...

chris

Oops Chris,
I said Padishar in the "Ugly Fly" post.
Sorry.
Sounds like our tying styles are related. That's ugly.
Ugly is good.
Guy

"Padishar Creel" wrote in message
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"Guy Thornberg" wrote in message
...
Best producing scud on the Northfork & White Rivers is the same pattern
George mentions below, but a little to the gray and without the
shellback -
no sparkle. Trim fur on top kind of close and leave the bottom the
length
of
the gape. Ugly is Good.
Guy
-------------
Guy, I can tie Ugly better than most! Most of my fllies are damn ugly...

chris

George Cleveland wrote: "Padishar Creel" wrote:


Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river 4'-9'
use?

No secret here. Olive or gray Hare's Ear Plus (Antron/Hare's Ear)
wrapped over a #12-#16 scud or wet fly hook. A few wraps of lead wire
for weight under that and a shellback of poly bag material ribbed with
either extra fine copper wire or brown tying thread pulled over the
top. I also tie a pink version with ribbing of flourescent pink tying
thread. I use a piece of velcro to fuzz up the body.

Chris, that pattern is pretty much all I use on the Crooked, which as
you probably know is a big scud factory. Orange is a good color too.

This is the look:

http://www.danica.com/flytier/tmodic/scud.htm

You'll see some patterns with little tails and antennae, like here

http://www.westfly.com/patterns/wet/scud.shtml

but I've never found that these make the pattern more effective.

BTW, don't waste any money on the shellback materials you see in fly
shops; little strips cut from plastic sandwich bags work just fine.

JR

JR wrote:

BTW, don't waste any money on the shellback materials you see in fly
shops; little strips cut from plastic sandwich bags work just fine.

JR

The shellback material you get from flyshops is nicer to work with than
plastic sandwich bags as it is elastic and can be stretched to give a
more arthropodous or chitinous segmented look. However, you can buy it a
fabric shops for considerably less.

Tim Lysyk

Tim Lysyk wrote:
JR wrote:
BTW, don't waste any money on the shellback materials you see in fly
shops; little strips cut from plastic sandwich bags work just fine.

The shellback material you get from flyshops is nicer to work with than
plastic sandwich bags as it is elastic and can be stretched to give a
more arthropodous or chitinous segmented look.

Well, yeah, if I want to strive for effects I can't spell or pronounce. :)

More to the point, I haven't found that a more arthritic and cretinous
look catches more fish.....

JR

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Padishar Creel wrote:

Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river 4'-9'
use?

I haven't fished enough scuds to know but my favorite is the Oliver
Edwards' version found in his book Fly Tyers Master Class.

Mu

"Padishar Creel" wrote in
:

Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river
4'-9' use?

I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out
there that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something
spectacular?

Thanks in advance, Chris



Caledonia scud. Search at www.theflybench.org

Scott

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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Caledonia scud. Search at www.theflybench.org
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Thanks Scott for the hint. Actually its www.theflybench.com and your fly,
which I love by the way is

http://tinyurl.com/6dwtl

Chris

Hey Mu,

if you wouldn't mind....e-mail me

remove invalid....

john
"Mu Young Lee" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Padishar Creel wrote:

Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river
4'-9'
use?

I haven't fished enough scuds to know but my favorite is the Oliver
Edwards' version found in his book Fly Tyers Master Class.

Mu