Bass Overpopulation HELP
 

I have two ponds that are over populated with small bass. All I can catch is
VERY small bass . How should I "clean" them out ?
Can a person give or sell them to a business ?
Or what do I do ?

Couple small Northerns ?

Thanks,
Iowa883

"Iowa883" wrote snip

I have two ponds that are over populated with small bass. All I can catch is
VERY small bass . How should I "clean" them out ?
Can a person give or sell them to a business ?
Or what do I do ?


Depending upon your location (urban, rural, countryside) you might contact a
local BASS Federation club about holding a youth tournament. Line the rim of
that pond with the next generation of bass anglers and let them do the work
for you. Or, you might hold a "small fish" tournament where the most fish
that weigh the least wins a prize. If you need a "sponsor" to make such a
thing work, call on your local Kiwanis, Lions, etc. They would be glad to
accept donations from the participants, would likely provide the "prize",
and would certainly appreciate the press coverage likely to come with it.
Anyway, just the thoughts of a rambling old man now retired with nothing to
do but fish, hunt, and surf (the net).

--
Da Chief,
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"Da Chief" wrote in message
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Depending upon your location (urban, rural, countryside) you might contact
a
local BASS Federation club about holding a youth tournament. Line the rim
of
that pond with the next generation of bass anglers and let them do the
work
for you. Or, you might hold a "small fish" tournament where the most fish
that weigh the least wins a prize. If you need a "sponsor" to make such a
thing work, call on your local Kiwanis, Lions, etc. They would be glad to
accept donations from the participants, would likely provide the "prize",
and would certainly appreciate the press coverage likely to come with it.

***Good idea Chief!


Anyway, just the thoughts of a rambling old man now retired with nothing
to
do but fish, hunt, and surf (the net).

***You poor old man... we really envy... err... pity you.


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Da Chief,
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NOOOOO Northerns! They overpopulate and stunt even worse. ;-) Joe Z.

"Iowa883" wrote in message
...
I have two ponds that are over populated with small bass. All I can catch is
VERY small bass . How should I "clean" them out ?
Can a person give or sell them to a business ?
Or what do I do ?

Couple small Northerns ?

Thanks,
Iowa883

"Iowa883" wrote in message
...
I have two ponds that are over populated with small bass. All I can catch
is
VERY small bass . How should I "clean" them out ?
Can a person give or sell them to a business ?
Or what do I do ?

Couple small Northerns ?

One of the first things I'd do is talk to your local Fish & Game Dept.'s
fisheries people. If possible, have them examine your ponds and determine
WHY the bass are small. It's possible that there are simply too many there,
it's equally possible that there is insufficient forage for the bass to grow
any larger.

A fishery biologist should be able to give you an idea of how many bass
should be in the ponds for optimum growth. They might also be able to give
you ideas for maintaining the health of the waters.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Uh, better watch it there Chief - the bass still have to be legal size to
harvest...

WW

"Da Chief" wrote in message
...

"Iowa883" wrote snip

I have two ponds that are over populated with small bass. All I can catch
is
VERY small bass . How should I "clean" them out ?
Can a person give or sell them to a business ?
Or what do I do ?


Depending upon your location (urban, rural, countryside) you might contact
a
local BASS Federation club about holding a youth tournament. Line the rim
of
that pond with the next generation of bass anglers and let them do the
work
for you. Or, you might hold a "small fish" tournament where the most fish
that weigh the least wins a prize. If you need a "sponsor" to make such a
thing work, call on your local Kiwanis, Lions, etc. They would be glad to
accept donations from the participants, would likely provide the "prize",
and would certainly appreciate the press coverage likely to come with it.
Anyway, just the thoughts of a rambling old man now retired with nothing
to
do but fish, hunt, and surf (the net).

--
Da Chief,
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Whoops. I assumed they were legal. If not, then the suggestion to contact
local wildlife fisheries folks (say fisheries folks ten times very fast) is
the way to go.

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"go-bassn" wrote in message
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Uh, better watch it there Chief - the bass still have to be legal size to
harvest...

WW

"Da Chief" wrote in message
...

"Iowa883" wrote snip

I have two ponds that are over populated with small bass. All I can catch
is
VERY small bass . How should I "clean" them out ?
Can a person give or sell them to a business ?
Or what do I do ?


Depending upon your location (urban, rural, countryside) you might
contact
a
local BASS Federation club about holding a youth tournament. Line the rim
of
that pond with the next generation of bass anglers and let them do the
work
for you. Or, you might hold a "small fish" tournament where the most fish
that weigh the least wins a prize. If you need a "sponsor" to make such a
thing work, call on your local Kiwanis, Lions, etc. They would be glad to
accept donations from the participants, would likely provide the "prize",
and would certainly appreciate the press coverage likely to come with it.
Anyway, just the thoughts of a rambling old man now retired with nothing
to
do but fish, hunt, and surf (the net).

--
Da Chief,
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If they are private ponds they may be exempt from state regulations.If you
can't find any other use for the small bass they make great fertilizer.I had
a small pond in Pendergrass,Ga. with the same problem years ago.We gave away
and ate as many as we could and turned the rest loose in the garden.They
grew some great veggies.
"Da Chief" wrote in message
.. .
Whoops. I assumed they were legal. If not, then the suggestion to contact
local wildlife fisheries folks (say fisheries folks ten times very fast)
is the way to go.

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"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Uh, better watch it there Chief - the bass still have to be legal size to
harvest...

WW

"Da Chief" wrote in message
...

"Iowa883" wrote snip

I have two ponds that are over populated with small bass. All I can
catch
is
VERY small bass . How should I "clean" them out ?
Can a person give or sell them to a business ?
Or what do I do ?


Depending upon your location (urban, rural, countryside) you might
contact
a
local BASS Federation club about holding a youth tournament. Line the
rim
of
that pond with the next generation of bass anglers and let them do the
work
for you. Or, you might hold a "small fish" tournament where the most
fish
that weigh the least wins a prize. If you need a "sponsor" to make such
a
thing work, call on your local Kiwanis, Lions, etc. They would be glad
to
accept donations from the participants, would likely provide the
"prize",
and would certainly appreciate the press coverage likely to come with
it.
Anyway, just the thoughts of a rambling old man now retired with nothing
to
do but fish, hunt, and surf (the net).

--
Da Chief,
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Da Chief wrote:

Anyway, just the thoughts of a rambling old man now retired with nothing to
do but fish, hunt, and surf (the net).

Me too. Give me a call when you want to go fishing - I can go most any
day the weather cooperates. I am planning on hitting Bartlett's Ferry a
couple of times next week before my Sunday club tournament.

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

I was told by Michigan DNR biologist (or I think it was) that for every acre
of water, it can support 50 1-pound bass, 25 2-pound bass, 12 4-pound bass,
etc., as long as there is adequate food (in our case 1000 bluegill per acre,
1000 perch per acre, 25 catfish for cleaning, (again I think it was) 200
gallons of shad. An incoming and out going water sources, or aerator system
(we used a water fountain, and have a good fresh incoming and outgoing water
source - spillway dam). Adequate cover (weeds, brush, trees, etc.) and
structure - that is in Michigan and Northern States in general, that fish
need at least one area of a pond that is deeper than 15-feet, to help them
survive the cold winter. We created a 1/2 acre 20-foot hole for this
purpose.


--
Craig

Ok... just put one in.

Joe
"Joe Z" wrote in message
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NOOOOO Northerns! They overpopulate and stunt even worse. ;-) Joe Z.

"Iowa883" wrote in message
...
I have two ponds that are over populated with small bass. All I can catch is
VERY small bass . How should I "clean" them out ?
Can a person give or sell them to a business ?
Or what do I do ?

Couple small Northerns ?

Thanks,
Iowa883

go-bassn wrote:
Uh, better watch it there Chief - the bass still have to be legal size to
harvest...


Dang Warren, are you really that stupid ?????????????????

Fish in a "private" pond belong to the pond owner, he can kill them all
if he wants to, this is TRUE in EVERY state, private ponds are exempt
for all game laws, he can catch and keep 100 fish a day if he wants to


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

I have a friend that has a nice pond on his property. The bass in his
pond also seemed to be on the small side for the time they had been
there. He was advised that the pond seemed to be in pretty good shape as
far as an eco-system went...plenty of food for the bass. He was advised
that maybe there was not enough natural cover, and structure for a
healthy bass habitat. He contracted to have some "rip-rap" hauled in,
and created some rock piles. He also had a friend bring his drag line
crane over, and created a deep end "hole" at the runoff entry to the
pond. He already had one small pier, but he added on to it with a large
"T" at the end. Now he has more structure, more shaded area...a better
bass habitat. He also removes some smaller bass, and puts them in
another pond that a neighbor recently built on his property..plus eats a
few too :). All this has helped the growth of the bass considerably.

A lot of ponds are just not great bass habitats!

JK

E. Carl Speros wrote:
I think your working from the wrong end. If you have the bass in with
mostly bluegills, those little guys are tough & evasive it'd be better
if you add Alewife, gizzard shad, crayfish etc. to your pond & take a
bass or 2 for dinner once in a while. If you add a mess of alewife etc.
(your supplier will tell you how many for your size pond. Bluegills are
a very difficult meal for Bass & even Pike don't prefer them because of
their spiny dorsal fins. Good luck, Carl



Alewife are singularly unsuited to small ponds. Golden shiners or the
like are a far better option.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:20:28 -0500, "go-bassn"
wrote:

Rodney the slimebucket troll lives to pick fights, but I'm not bitin his
twisted snakeoil hooks lol.

C'mon fella--no name-calling please. Don't stoop to his level, you
are bigger than that!





Guy A
Ripley, TN

You are right Guy, my apologies. A 70-year old guy calling me stupid
shouldn't raise my neckhair anyway lol. I just wish he would stay in my
killfile. You coming to Center Hill Guy?

Warren

"Guy F. Anderson Sr." wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:20:28 -0500, "go-bassn"
wrote:

Rodney the slimebucket troll lives to pick fights, but I'm not bitin his
twisted snakeoil hooks lol.

C'mon fella--no name-calling please. Don't stoop to his level, you
are bigger than that!





Guy A
Ripley, TN

go-bassn wrote:
So Ron, how was your South American trip???

Warren

Quite and experience - saw things I never thought I would see in my
life. Penguines everywhere, whales, seals and ice bergs. About the
fourth morning out something woke me up shaking the ship and crashing -
ran to the window and nothing but ice floes and bergs as far as you
could see. They avoided the bigger ones but ran right over floes 30 or
40 feet long and 4 feet thick - shook the ship enough to wake me up.

It was amazing having penguines waddle right by you going to their nests
- they would pretty much ignore you if you were more than four or five
feet away. And I never thought how bad it would smell - penguines nest
in colonies of thousands in the same rock islands year after year, and
the poop never goes away, just melts and thaws back out. You could
smell a colony miles away!

Antarctica is an amazing place - some days we would be looking at ice
bergs against ice cliffs 200 feet high and off in the distance it would
look like a low lying cloud, then we would realize it was an ice field
rising up thousands of feet and running as far as you could see. The
captain took the 400 foot ship right up to a flat berg - one that was
formed when the ice shelf of a glacier broke off. It was at least three
times as long as the ship and you could not see the top from the top
deck of the ship. And it was at least as wide as it was long.

Some of them were this incredible light blue color, and some had that
blue streak in them. There were all kinds of shapes and sizes.
Everything there was white, grey, black or blue. Really missed the
color green!

They took us off the ship in Zodiac rubber boats - with 32 hp diesel
outboards - did not know they even made a diesel outboard. They were
Yanmar. Said they needed diesel for the torque, and I am sure it helped
carrying only one kind of fuel. The ship provided rubber boots knee high
and red parkers that were very warm. I wore my guidewear pants since we
often had waves splash over the sides of the boat and got out into knee
deep water usually.

Anyway, they would take us 10 at the time to islands to walk around for
an hour or so - often riding thru slush ice that would kick up the
motor. Air temps were in the low 30s - it is the middle of the summer
there. A once in a lifetime experience.

I was disappointed that I was too far south for peacock bass when in
Buenos Aries. They are several hundred miles north, toward the equator.
The river there is huge, really a bay, and muddy. There was a fish I
wanted to try for called a dorado - looked like a yellow striper with
teeth. They got big. But would have to travel about three hours upstream
to get to them, and we only had a day and a half there.

Glad I am home!

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You are right Guy, my apologies. A 70-year old guy calling me stupid
shouldn't raise my neckhair anyway lol.

Warren, argue with Rodney all you want, I got no dog in that fight. But
what's age got to do with it? I'm a senior citizen and the above statement
rubs me the wrong way because of the attitude it implies, even if that
wasn't your intent. With luck, you'll be a senior some day and it'll happen
quicker than you think. Enjoy your youth while you still have it.

Good fishing,
Marty

"Rodney" wrote in message
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go-bassn wrote:
Same here in PA Joe, a bass must be 12" to harvest even in private
waters.


Prove that WARREN,, it was not proved for NY, it only applied if special
conditions were not met

If that was the case, every small farm pond would have dink bass in them
and nothing else, you can't manage a farm pond following those rules,,
the fish in a farm pond "BELONG" to the owner of the pond, he can do
what he damn well pleases with them, hell, he can kill them all if he
wants to

Rodney the slimebucket troll lives to pick fights, but I'm not bitin his
twisted snakeoil hooks lol.

Your just a wanna be expert, that does not know everything like you
claim you do,, you won't debate me because I am RIGHT "again", and you
can't stand it.

Just like you stated that farm ponds "can't be" over populated with
bass, you just don't know what your talking about.

Warren

"Joe Z" wrote in message
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Rod, Why must you pick fights? Warren was erring, IF it was an error, on

the

side of caution. Sheesh!
http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/d.../farmpdmg.html
This means that guests or friends of the pond owner must have a license
to
fish the pond even though it is privately-owned. Laws pertaining to

seasons,

size limits and daily take also apply to owners of private fish ponds

unless

a farm fish pond license is obtained.
Joe Z.


"Rodney" wrote in message
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go-bassn wrote:

Uh, better watch it there Chief - the bass still have to be legal size

to

harvest...


Dang Warren, are you really that stupid ?????????????????

Fish in a "private" pond belong to the pond owner, he can kill them all
if he wants to, this is TRUE in EVERY state, private ponds are exempt
for all game laws, he can catch and keep 100 fish a day if he wants to


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com







--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Tell that to the local slimeball developer that drained a pond. Was not the
first time he screwed up a natural wetland pond on land he owned. Cost him
close to $300,000 in fines. Plus his legal bills probably pushed that a
couple of times. You can not do whatever you like with your ponds.

Calif Bill wrote:

Tell that to the local slimeball developer that drained a pond. Was not the
first time he screwed up a natural wetland pond on land he owned. Cost him
close to $300,000 in fines. Plus his legal bills probably pushed that a
couple of times. You can not do whatever you like with your ponds.

That's apples and Oranges, a natural wetland is not a farm pond, a farm
pond is not natural, but made by a property owner, and yes you can catch
as many fish any size you want from them,, in all states. There are some
real winners here that think you can get and naturally maintain 500 10
lb bass is a one acre pond, it just does not work that way.


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Who is comparing apples and oranges?

Rodney why did you change from private pond to farm pond?

Here in Georgia the OWNER of the property and immediate family are
exempt from needing a license. Creel limits and size limits still
apply.
Also the GA DNR will stock a private pond for free but you then have
to allow anyone with a license to fish.

And to clarify a farm pond is a private pond but a private pond is not
necessarily a farm pond.

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:39:08 -0600, Rodney wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:

Tell that to the local slimeball developer that drained a pond. Was not the
first time he screwed up a natural wetland pond on land he owned. Cost him
close to $300,000 in fines. Plus his legal bills probably pushed that a
couple of times. You can not do whatever you like with your ponds.

That's apples and Oranges, a natural wetland is not a farm pond, a farm
pond is not natural, but made by a property owner, and yes you can catch
as many fish any size you want from them,, in all states. There are some
real winners here that think you can get and naturally maintain 500 10
lb bass is a one acre pond, it just does not work that way.

wrote:
Who is comparing apples and oranges?

Rodney why did you change from private pond to farm pond?

Here in Georgia the OWNER of the property and immediate family are
exempt from needing a license. Creel limits and size limits still
apply.

Please direct me to the Ga law stating this,,

Hay Ronnie, how about some help here ?

Small bodies of water need to be properly managed to produce even eating
size fish, many private ponds do not have enough fish removed, the DNR's
know this, thus no limits or size limits apply, if they did, then all
you would end up with is a bunch of little stunted fish in a pond, I
have fished these ponds many times before. nearly every cast producing
little 8 inch bass

Size limits and creel limits are worthless on a pond that gets fished 30
man hours a year (just an example) you would end up with a pond in a lot
of trouble in about 6 years.

Down here, to maintain a balanced pond there must be between 100 and 200
lbs of fish removed per acre , per year ( this number varies due to how
much you spend on fertilizer, food, and lime on the lake ) Now if your
the owner and your the only one who fishes the lake, that's taking a lot
of fish out, the DNR could care less if you over or under fish your
pond, it's "YOUR" pond, they are "your" fish as you paid to have them
stocked. Some ponds get so out of balance only draining them or
poisoning them and starting over is the only solution.

Why don't some of you guys do a "goggle" on pond management, it is not
the same as "lake" management. Your state spends a small fortune each
year checking fish populations in public waters, they adjust the size
and creel limits based on these "average" numbers, in some states each
public body of water has different size limits, and creel limits ( these
states are the ones that really have healthy fisheries )

Just like on some of our state parks, has signs everywhere for each
fishermen to KEEP the bass creel limit, (every size, even dinks) do not
practice C&R, until after you have the creel limit on your stringer or
in your live well, as these lakes are over populated with bass. I was
told that if the numbers did not drop, next season they were going to
remove the creel limit for a year on these lakes (these lakes average 50
acres each) to get the bass population under control.

You guys don't spend any time really fishing ponds, I fish them 2 to
three times a week, I own a little one as well (very small 75 foot
circle). One of my best friends is a fish biologist for a private
stocking fishery, (he teaches pond owners how to maintain their ponds,
as well as supplying them with the fish to maintain) and I have done
volentiery work for my state's DNR for over 30 years now, working with
both fish and game biologist. I work about 20 hours a year helping them
out, I do this just to learn, and because I just love shocking up "BIG"
fish :-)

I get to fish the lake that holds our present state record, it is a 33
acre "very private" lake that has one major rule, you keep, or throw on
the bank every bass that is under two lbs, even if you catch 100 in a
day. Every bass over 5 lbs must be C&R, the only exception is if you
break the record of 16/8. Three very rich men own this lake, they spend
about 20,000 dollars a year in maintaining it, including a yearly
census, they will adjust the keep and throw back sizes and numbers if
needed based on this census, last year it was everything under two lbs

Nearly every trip, you will catch HOGS (over 8 lbs) in that lake, and
you still catch many of them 1/2 to 5 lbers as these hogs lay a lot of
eggs each year. This lake is not fished much, as it's by special
invitation only

I only get to fish this lake one or two times a year :-(

Another thing about this lake, 8 years ago they stocked it with some
hybrid, non reproducing cat fish (which no one fishes for) talk about
having a ball in the evening, 30 to 40 lbers every cast, from the pier,
as they have a timed catfish feeder on that pier, those we keep just
one, and C&R the rest, after two hours, your arms are so sore, you just
have to quit
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

I stand corrected.

It now states you do not need a license to fish a private pond.
It now limits immediate family on land owners or immediate family.
There used to be no distinction between landowner and private pond.

I still found no exemption for creel or size limits.

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:31:03 -0600, Rodney wrote:

wrote:
Who is comparing apples and oranges?

Rodney why did you change from private pond to farm pond?

Here in Georgia the OWNER of the property and immediate family are
exempt from needing a license. Creel limits and size limits still
apply.

Please direct me to the Ga law stating this,,

Hay Ronnie, how about some help here ?

Small bodies of water need to be properly managed to produce even eating
size fish, many private ponds do not have enough fish removed, the DNR's
know this, thus no limits or size limits apply, if they did, then all
you would end up with is a bunch of little stunted fish in a pond, I
have fished these ponds many times before. nearly every cast producing
little 8 inch bass

Size limits and creel limits are worthless on a pond that gets fished 30
man hours a year (just an example) you would end up with a pond in a lot
of trouble in about 6 years.

Down here, to maintain a balanced pond there must be between 100 and 200
lbs of fish removed per acre , per year ( this number varies due to how
much you spend on fertilizer, food, and lime on the lake ) Now if your
the owner and your the only one who fishes the lake, that's taking a lot
of fish out, the DNR could care less if you over or under fish your
pond, it's "YOUR" pond, they are "your" fish as you paid to have them
stocked. Some ponds get so out of balance only draining them or
poisoning them and starting over is the only solution.

Why don't some of you guys do a "goggle" on pond management, it is not
the same as "lake" management. Your state spends a small fortune each
year checking fish populations in public waters, they adjust the size
and creel limits based on these "average" numbers, in some states each
public body of water has different size limits, and creel limits ( these
states are the ones that really have healthy fisheries )

Just like on some of our state parks, has signs everywhere for each
fishermen to KEEP the bass creel limit, (every size, even dinks) do not
practice C&R, until after you have the creel limit on your stringer or
in your live well, as these lakes are over populated with bass. I was
told that if the numbers did not drop, next season they were going to
remove the creel limit for a year on these lakes (these lakes average 50
acres each) to get the bass population under control.

You guys don't spend any time really fishing ponds, I fish them 2 to
three times a week, I own a little one as well (very small 75 foot
circle). One of my best friends is a fish biologist for a private
stocking fishery, (he teaches pond owners how to maintain their ponds,
as well as supplying them with the fish to maintain) and I have done
volentiery work for my state's DNR for over 30 years now, working with
both fish and game biologist. I work about 20 hours a year helping them
out, I do this just to learn, and because I just love shocking up "BIG"
fish :-)

I get to fish the lake that holds our present state record, it is a 33
acre "very private" lake that has one major rule, you keep, or throw on
the bank every bass that is under two lbs, even if you catch 100 in a
day. Every bass over 5 lbs must be C&R, the only exception is if you
break the record of 16/8. Three very rich men own this lake, they spend
about 20,000 dollars a year in maintaining it, including a yearly
census, they will adjust the keep and throw back sizes and numbers if
needed based on this census, last year it was everything under two lbs

Nearly every trip, you will catch HOGS (over 8 lbs) in that lake, and
you still catch many of them 1/2 to 5 lbers as these hogs lay a lot of
eggs each year. This lake is not fished much, as it's by special
invitation only

I only get to fish this lake one or two times a year :-(

Another thing about this lake, 8 years ago they stocked it with some
hybrid, non reproducing cat fish (which no one fishes for) talk about
having a ball in the evening, 30 to 40 lbers every cast, from the pier,
as they have a timed catfish feeder on that pier, those we keep just
one, and C&R the rest, after two hours, your arms are so sore, you just
have to quit

I live on an 8 acre lake in south TX. There are 30 home-owners who have
access and only those 30.

I'm one of the few who fishes it at all. My grandson and I pulled 9 bass
from it Monday evening in one paddle around the lake.... took about an hour.
He came back and caught 4 more bass, while standing on my shoreline, an hour
later. All on spinner-baits or beetle-spins. What Rodney says is true. The
lake is full of 1 to 2 lb bass. I haven't caught a 4 or 5 lb'er in years,
since no one takes the fish out.
RichG TX
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RichG manager, Carolina Skiff Owners Group on MSN
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners
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wrote:
I stand corrected.

It now states you do not need a license to fish a private pond.
It now limits immediate family on land owners or immediate family.
There used to be no distinction between landowner and private pond.

I still found no exemption for creel or size limits.

Most states have their creel and size limits stated under "public"
waters, or taken from public waters, this statement separates the the
two, any phone call, to any state DNR, and just ask them, they will tell
you that all private ponds are excempt from the size and creel limits,
it's up to the owner to control his fish populations, the state's public
water limits can not be applied to small private ponds, if a pond is
fished a lot it's possible that the states creel limits could actually
be too high for it. Of course few are over fished, so the states limits
are much too low for the few fishing man days that they get fished.

Just make a phone call to your states NDR and ask them

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

I've been told by NY's DEC that most private waters are subject to the
regulations.

"Rodney" wrote in message
...
wrote:
I stand corrected.

It now states you do not need a license to fish a private pond.
It now limits immediate family on land owners or immediate family.
There used to be no distinction between landowner and private pond.

I still found no exemption for creel or size limits.

Most states have their creel and size limits stated under "public"
waters, or taken from public waters, this statement separates the the
two, any phone call, to any state DNR, and just ask them, they will tell
you that all private ponds are excempt from the size and creel limits,
it's up to the owner to control his fish populations, the state's public
water limits can not be applied to small private ponds, if a pond is
fished a lot it's possible that the states creel limits could actually
be too high for it. Of course few are over fished, so the states limits
are much too low for the few fishing man days that they get fished.

Just make a phone call to your states NDR and ask them

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Marty wrote:
I've been told by NY's DEC that most private waters are subject to the
regulations.

That is only if the pond owner does not get a private pond permit, (he
does not want to properly manage his private pond) if you have the
permit, (to do what you want with your own property) you are exempt from
all season, size and creel limits .

Remember this thread was about a person trying to control "His" fish
population, in "His" pond. One person, who thinks he knows everything,
told him he could not throw away dinks, or keep more than the dayly
limits, this is the same person that believes in total catch and release
of bass in private ponds will not cause them to become over populated,
and them to be stunted (at least that is what he posted, then called me
an idiot, for correcting him)

You crazy guys in NY make people get permits for everything, I bet if
they thought they could get away it it. NY would require you to have a
permit to make love to your wife . or have a camp fire.
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Protect mosquitoes??? Maybe I need to tell them little buggers here, that
they can have a safe refuse down Georgia!

They've been so bad here the last couple of years that Metro is now spraying
whole neighborhoods to kill them off.

"Ronnie Garrison" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
I stand corrected.

It now states you do not need a license to fish a private pond.
It now limits immediate family on land owners or immediate family.
There used to be no distinction between landowner and private pond.

I still found no exemption for creel or size limits.

I called back to check on this - just got a return call from Jimmy
Evans, state fisheries biologist
here in Georgia. If the pond is wholly on your land and fish can not
swim upstream and cross a
property line, or go downstream and cross a property line, the owner
does not have any creel
limits on catching fish out of it. Most man-made ponds fit that
description - there are some mill
ponds on bigger streams where the water flows over the dam at all times
so fish can go over it,
and where the stream upstream of the pond is big enough for fish to swim
up.

Here in Georgia we do still have some property rights. If you own a
manmade pond, whether you
call it a farm pond or a private pond, you can take as many fish out of
it as you want. You can
even drain it and kill them all.

Most of our bodies of water are man-made - we call natural wetlands
"swamps" here and there
are rules to protect them - seems mostly to protect mosquitoes, but
those are the laws.

Charles B. Summers wrote:

Protect mosquitoes??? Maybe I need to tell them little buggers here, that
they can have a safe refuse down Georgia!

They've been so bad here the last couple of years that Metro is now spraying
whole neighborhoods to kill them off.

I "think" the protection of mosquitoes while protecting swamps is an
accident, but it sure does help.

"Rodney" wrote in message
...

You crazy guys in NY make people get permits for everything, I bet if
they thought they could get away it it. NY would require you to have a
permit to make love to your wife . or have a camp fire.

Thank you for your compliments to our fine state Rodney. Nobody ever accused
you of possessing excessive tact and I'm not about to break that pattern.

Marty wrote:


Thank you for your compliments to our fine state Rodney. Nobody ever accused
you of possessing excessive tact and I'm not about to break that pattern.


I lived in your state for over a year, you need to find out what living
in a "free" state really is, where people still have (some) freedoms,
since you know nothing more than those states that have removed many
freedoms, you can't understand why others would never want to live where
you do. NY is a nice state, even has many fine people in it, but y'all
have many laws that are a bit too controlling of the individual. If your
state can find a way to tax, permit, or control something, they won't
let it get by them. They are almost as bad as California.

Drive 600, to 800 miles south, or west, and learn what living in a free
state is all about, your property taxes will drop 300%, you get to fish
year round, and you don't need a permit to control your own property.
Heck if your child misbehaves, they won't arrest you for giving him a
spanking. You can even carry your shotgun in your truck window, and a
pistol in your pocket. It's where criminals will almost never break in a
home when people are home. Must people don't have anyone they know that
has ever been mugged. You'll also find people who won't just witness
crimes on others and do nothing, for fear of themselves getting arrested
or sued if they stop that crime.



--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com