What is Clave?
 

I looked up the definition in the dictionary, but the entries I've found
we
1. past tense of cleaver
2. A cylindrical hardwood stick used in a pair as a percussion instrument.
3. A syncopated two-bar musical pattern.

I'm assuming it means gathering?
-tom

Tom Nakashima wrote:
...
I'm assuming it means gathering?

That's right, 'Clave is an abbreviated form of Conclave.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On 2/15/05 3:53 PM, in article
, "Ken Fortenberry"
wrote:

Tom Nakashima wrote:
...
I'm assuming it means gathering?

That's right, 'Clave is an abbreviated form of Conclave.

Stems from the Nahuatl "conclavatl" meaning camaraderie, drinking, dunking
and occasional fishing.

Entymologtl R Us,

Bill

Tom Nakashima wrote:
I looked up the definition in the dictionary, but the entries I've
found we
1. past tense of cleaver
2. A cylindrical hardwood stick used in a pair as a percussion
instrument.
3. A syncopated two-bar musical pattern.

I'm assuming it means gathering?

I *love* this job!: http://css.sbcma.com/timj/acronyms/
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

"Tim J." wrote in message
...
Tom Nakashima wrote:
I looked up the definition in the dictionary, but the entries I've
found we
1. past tense of cleaver
2. A cylindrical hardwood stick used in a pair as a percussion
instrument.
3. A syncopated two-bar musical pattern.

I'm assuming it means gathering?

I *love* this job!: http://css.sbcma.com/timj/acronyms/
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj


Thanks everyone for clearing that up and the useful link.
-tom

"William Claspy" wrote

That's right, 'Clave is an abbreviated form of Conclave.

Stems from the Nahuatl "conclavatl" meaning camaraderie, drinking, dunking
and occasional fishing.

Entymologtl R Us,

Bill

hilarious; and so drenched in currency.

yfitons
wayno

"David Snedeker" wrote in message
...

Mostly open invitation fishing gatherings of Roffians. Ie all invited
within a few shifting and general guidelines typically established by a
volunteer clave master. (Things like don't beat your dog, limits on
firearms, ****ing matches but not much more. Degree of formal arrangements
vary. You should come to one. The few Ive been to have been a kick.

Dave

Yes, I'm planning on attending the Sandy River Spey Clave on May 14-15,
along the Washington/Oregon border. I believe there will be a few Roffians
there, sounds like a lot of fun.
-tom

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
...
I looked up the definition in the dictionary, but the entries I've found
we
1. past tense of cleaver
2. A cylindrical hardwood stick used in a pair as a percussion
instrument.
3. A syncopated two-bar musical pattern.

I'm assuming it means gathering?
-tom


Mostly open invitation fishing gatherings of Roffians. Ie all invited
within a few shifting and general guidelines typically established by a
volunteer clave master. (Things like don't beat your dog, limits on
firearms, ****ing matches but not much more. Degree of formal arrangements
vary. You should come to one. The few Ive been to have been a kick.

Dave

"Tim J." wrote in message
...
I *love* this job!: http://css.sbcma.com/timj/acronyms/

I just looked at that list for the first time. Nice job. Tim!

However.........you knew it was coming.......right?..... :)

IIRC, HWMNBN has only ever been applied to a single specific individual
within this group.......thus far, anyway. A brief explanation of the
circumstances might not be entirely out of order......one need not
necessarily even name HWMNBN.

I don't recall whether the acronym "POTY" has ever been used here, but I'm
fairly certain that the expression it abbreviates has. A possible candidate
for inclusion?

I understand the limitations of space, and the definition of "SPLORK VANG
MU" is accurate and witty enough, but it seems to me that a fuller
exposition of the peculiar relevance to ROFF (as well as due recognition of
the roles of the principals) might make it even better........um........OMN.

W

David Snedeker wrote:

Mostly open invitation fishing gatherings of Roffians.

In the context of ROFF maybe, but claves amongst the various electronic
fly fishing groups were going on long before ROFF had it's first
*official* clave.

"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
oups.com...
In the context of ROFF maybe, but claves amongst the various electronic
fly fishing groups were going on long before ROFF had it's first
*official* clave.


true enough, I attended a few amongst CompuServe types way back.....
Tom

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:10:59 -0500, William Claspy
wrote:

On 2/15/05 3:53 PM, in article
, "Ken Fortenberry"
wrote:

Tom Nakashima wrote:
...
I'm assuming it means gathering?

That's right, 'Clave is an abbreviated form of Conclave.

Stems from the Nahuatl "conclavatl" meaning camaraderie, drinking, dunking
and occasional fishing.

Entymologtl R Us,

Bill

Why do you hate Central America?

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:44:22 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

I looked up the definition in the dictionary, but the entries I've found
we
1. past tense of cleaver
2. A cylindrical hardwood stick used in a pair as a percussion instrument.
3. A syncopated two-bar musical pattern.

I'm assuming it means gathering?
-tom


Actually, 3 sounds about right...

"Thomas Littleton" wrote in

true enough, I attended a few amongst CompuServe types way back.....

Did we ever meet?

Wolfgang wrote:
"Tim J." wrote in message
...
I *love* this job!: http://css.sbcma.com/timj/acronyms/

I just looked at that list for the first time. Nice job. Tim!

However.........you knew it was coming.......right?..... :)

IIRC, HWMNBN has only ever been applied to a single specific
individual within this group.......thus far, anyway. A brief
explanation of the circumstances might not be entirely out of
order......one need not necessarily even name HWMNBN.

I await your definition. . . I am but the keeper.

I don't recall whether the acronym "POTY" has ever been used here,
but I'm fairly certain that the expression it abbreviates has. A
possible candidate for inclusion?

I've seen it used on other groups as "program of the year", but I'm
assuming, for ROFF purposes, you mean "post of the year".

I understand the limitations of space, and the definition of "SPLORK
VANG MU" is accurate and witty enough, but it seems to me that a
fuller exposition of the peculiar relevance to ROFF (as well as due
recognition of the roles of the principals) might make it even
better....

This goody came into play before my arrival here. I'll need
enlightenment.

....um........OMN.

?? (too tired to try)

W

That *must* stand for Walter, 'cause we all know Wolfgang isn't your
real name.
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

Wayne Knight wrote:
"Thomas Littleton" wrote in

true enough, I attended a few amongst CompuServe types way back.....

Did we ever meet?

Yes. One of you was the butt-ugly one. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
who has only met one, but I'm not passing judgement.
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
...

Yes, I'm planning on attending the Sandy River Spey Clave on May 14-15,
along the Washington/Oregon border. I believe there will be a few Roffians
there, sounds like a lot of fun.
-tom

I may make it there this year. Padishar Creel and I talked about going, but
something distracted us last year. Oh yeah, the river walk in San Antonio
called and I just had to visit.

William Claspy wrote:

Stems from the Nahuatl "conclavatl" meaning camaraderie, drinking, dunking
and occasional fishing.

Entymologtl R Us,

SPLORK VANG MUtl


Chuck Vance (for a librarian, you've got a pretty good sense of
humor, son)

Tim J. wrote:

Yes. One of you was the butt-ugly one. ;-)


That would have been me then :(. I only asked Tom that because I used
to do a few of the compuserve gatherings. I remember Harry Mason as
posting frequently to the Compuserve forum but I don't remember Tom
posting there.

Tim J. wrote:

Yes. One of you was the butt-ugly one. ;-)


That would have been me then :(. I only asked Tom that because I used
to do a few of the compuserve gatherings. I remember Harry Mason as
posting frequently to the Compuserve forum but I don't remember Tom
posting there.

"Tim J." wrote in message
...
Wolfgang wrote:
"Tim J." wrote in message
...
I *love* this job!: http://css.sbcma.com/timj/acronyms/

I just looked at that list for the first time. Nice job. Tim!

However.........you knew it was coming.......right?..... :)

IIRC, HWMNBN has only ever been applied to a single specific
individual within this group.......thus far, anyway. A brief
explanation of the circumstances might not be entirely out of
order......one need not necessarily even name HWMNBN.

I await your definition. . . I am but the keeper.

None to offer......just a passing thought.

I don't recall whether the acronym "POTY" has ever been used here,
but I'm fairly certain that the expression it abbreviates has. A
possible candidate for inclusion?

I've seen it used on other groups as "program of the year", but I'm
assuming, for ROFF purposes, you mean "post of the year".

Yep.

I understand the limitations of space, and the definition of
"SPLORK
VANG MU" is accurate and witty enough, but it seems to me that a
fuller exposition of the peculiar relevance to ROFF (as well as
due
recognition of the roles of the principals) might make it even
better....

This goody came into play before my arrival here. I'll need
enlightenment.

Perhaps just a mention that the latter two terms are eponymous and
immortalize two of our own.

....um........OMN.
?? (too tired to try)

Or Maybe Not.

W

That *must* stand for Walter, 'cause we all know Wolfgang isn't your
real name.

Well, perhaps not "all" of us.......ask Kennie. :)

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:
"Tim J." wrote in message
...
Wolfgang wrote:
"Tim J." wrote in message
...
I *love* this job!: http://css.sbcma.com/timj/acronyms/

I just looked at that list for the first time. Nice job. Tim!

However.........you knew it was coming.......right?..... :)

IIRC, HWMNBN has only ever been applied to a single specific
individual within this group.......thus far, anyway. A brief
explanation of the circumstances might not be entirely out of
order......one need not necessarily even name HWMNBN.

I await your definition. . . I am but the keeper.

None to offer......just a passing thought.

I've adjusted the definition slightly, but no names were given.

I don't recall whether the acronym "POTY" has ever been used here,
but I'm fairly certain that the expression it abbreviates has. A
possible candidate for inclusion?

I've seen it used on other groups as "program of the year", but I'm
assuming, for ROFF purposes, you mean "post of the year".

Yep.

Done. I suppose I'll need to add POTD[ecade] and POTC[entury] next. When
will it end?

I understand the limitations of space,

Limitations? We don't need no steenkin' limitations.

and the definition of "SPLORK
VANG MU" is accurate and witty enough, but it seems to me that a
fuller exposition of the peculiar relevance to ROFF (as well as due
recognition of the roles of the principals) might make it even
better....

This goody came into play before my arrival here. I'll need
enlightenment.

Perhaps just a mention that the latter two terms are eponymous and
immortalize two of our own.

Done. I've also immortalized you for your assistance. ;-)

....um........OMN.
?? (too tired to try)

Or Maybe Not.

Okay - the judges said that one can be entered, but it was a split
decision.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

Wolfgang wrote:
"Tim J." wrote in message
...
Wolfgang wrote:
"Tim J." wrote in message
...
I *love* this job!: http://css.sbcma.com/timj/acronyms/

I just looked at that list for the first time. Nice job. Tim!

However.........you knew it was coming.......right?..... :)

IIRC, HWMNBN has only ever been applied to a single specific
individual within this group.......thus far, anyway. A brief
explanation of the circumstances might not be entirely out of
order......one need not necessarily even name HWMNBN.

I await your definition. . . I am but the keeper.

None to offer......just a passing thought.

I've adjusted the definition slightly, but no names were given.

I don't recall whether the acronym "POTY" has ever been used here,
but I'm fairly certain that the expression it abbreviates has. A
possible candidate for inclusion?

I've seen it used on other groups as "program of the year", but I'm
assuming, for ROFF purposes, you mean "post of the year".

Yep.

Done. I suppose I'll need to add POTD[ecade] and POTC[entury] next. When
will it end?

I understand the limitations of space,

Limitations? We don't need no steenkin' limitations.

and the definition of "SPLORK
VANG MU" is accurate and witty enough, but it seems to me that a
fuller exposition of the peculiar relevance to ROFF (as well as due
recognition of the roles of the principals) might make it even
better....

This goody came into play before my arrival here. I'll need
enlightenment.

Perhaps just a mention that the latter two terms are eponymous and
immortalize two of our own.

Done. I've also immortalized you for your assistance. ;-)

....um........OMN.
?? (too tired to try)

Or Maybe Not.

Okay - the judges said that one can be entered, but it was a split
decision.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

"Tim J." wrote in message
...
...HWMNBN...

I've adjusted the definition slightly, but no names were given.

Stands to reason......under the circumstances.

..."POTY"

Done. I suppose I'll need to add POTD[ecade] and POTC[entury] next.
When
will it end?

POTM? :)

..."SPLORK VANG MU"...

Done. I've also immortalized you for your assistance. ;-)

Aw, man, that's just cold! :(

OMN.
?? (too tired to try)

Or Maybe Not.

Okay - the judges said that one can be entered, but it was a split
decision.

YIPPEE! I WIN!

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:
"Tim J." wrote in message
...
snip
OMN.
?? (too tired to try)

Or Maybe Not.

Okay - the judges said that one can be entered, but it was a split
decision.

YIPPEE! I WIN!

There is no "winning" on roff.
--
TL,
Tim
who ought to know.
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

"bugcaster" wrote in message
...
I may make it there this year. Padishar Creel and I talked about going,
but
something distracted us last year. Oh yeah, the river walk in San Antonio
called and I just had to visit.
----------------------
Randy, lets go to this Spey Clave. I talked with Ron Lauzon last night about
taking some Spey Casting lessons. They are pretty reasonable for one-on-one
or for two? Hell, if I were into golf, I would be taking lessons and he
offers them in the evening and on weekends as well as a 'school' thing. My
Spey casting could use a LOT of improvement...

Chris

Can I come?

ME


"bugcaster" wrote in message
...

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
...

Yes, I'm planning on attending the Sandy River Spey Clave on May 14-15,
along the Washington/Oregon border. I believe there will be a few
Roffians
there, sounds like a lot of fun.
-tom

I may make it there this year. Padishar Creel and I talked about going,
but something distracted us last year. Oh yeah, the river walk in San
Antonio called and I just had to visit.