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JackTr February 20th, 2004 12:40 AM

boat cover
 
Anyone keep their bass boat in a slip? Just wondering if you do if you
use a regular mooring cover or did you order a special "snap" cover to
keep out the elements. Also, I would appreciate any advice on what is
the absolute best way to insure that the bilge pump will work in my
absence, while boat is in the slip. I know accidents may happen.
Thanks very much. This is the best bass NG I have found.

go-bassn February 20th, 2004 02:17 AM

boat cover
 
I'd keep a very snug cover on if you're gonna moore it for an extended
period. Moisture in the air is a boat's worst enemy.

As for the bilge pump, while there's no way to guarantee it will work, there
are a few steps you can take to up the odds. Keep your bilge area free of
debris such as leaves, trach & (in my case) used soft-plastics. Charge your
batteries immediatewly after each trip. And test the bilge pump frequently.

You couldn't pay me to keep my boat outside, but I realize some are forced
to.

Donb't forget to take steps to keep feathered friends from landing on your
cover too...

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/



"JackTr" wrote in message
om...
Anyone keep their bass boat in a slip? Just wondering if you do if you
use a regular mooring cover or did you order a special "snap" cover to
keep out the elements. Also, I would appreciate any advice on what is
the absolute best way to insure that the bilge pump will work in my
absence, while boat is in the slip. I know accidents may happen.
Thanks very much. This is the best bass NG I have found.




Calif Bill February 20th, 2004 03:31 AM

boat cover
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I'd keep a very snug cover on if you're gonna moore it for an extended
period. Moisture in the air is a boat's worst enemy.

As for the bilge pump, while there's no way to guarantee it will work,

there
are a few steps you can take to up the odds. Keep your bilge area free of
debris such as leaves, trach & (in my case) used soft-plastics. Charge

your
batteries immediatewly after each trip. And test the bilge pump

frequently.

You couldn't pay me to keep my boat outside, but I realize some are forced
to.

Donb't forget to take steps to keep feathered friends from landing on your
cover too...

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/



"JackTr" wrote in message
om...
Anyone keep their bass boat in a slip? Just wondering if you do if you
use a regular mooring cover or did you order a special "snap" cover to
keep out the elements. Also, I would appreciate any advice on what is
the absolute best way to insure that the bilge pump will work in my
absence, while boat is in the slip. I know accidents may happen.
Thanks very much. This is the best bass NG I have found.




two bildge pumps minimum. What I run on my boat anyways. Installed a 2000
gph pump as a backup to the 1500 gpm pump. That way if one fails I have
pump until dead battery.
Bill



RichG February 20th, 2004 04:30 AM

boat cover
 
Just a comment on "two bilge pumps.... It is fairly common to install the
second (often larger ) bilge pump a few inches above the "primary and often
smaller " bilge pump. That way, if the first one doesn't handle all of the
water, the second one kicks in and can work in conjunction with the primary.
Of course, if both are connected to the same battery..and that battery is
down, it doesn't matter how many bilge pumps you have. If I had to leave my
boat in a slip, and it had electrical connections, I'd work out a 110 volt
converter to be sure that , if my battery went down, the shore power would
suffice. RichG



Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers February 20th, 2004 01:33 PM

boat cover
 

"JackTr" wrote in message
om...
Anyone keep their bass boat in a slip? Just wondering if you do if you
use a regular mooring cover or did you order a special "snap" cover to
keep out the elements. Also, I would appreciate any advice on what is
the absolute best way to insure that the bilge pump will work in my
absence, while boat is in the slip. I know accidents may happen.
Thanks very much. This is the best bass NG I have found.


I don't keep my boat in a slip, but I'll give you my thoughts on the matter.

Boat covers come in three types, elastic edged, snaps and straps.

Elastic edged is going to be the easiest to put on and take off. BUT,
unless you're in a covered slip, rainwater is going to pool on the cover,
eventually soak through and the boat is going to be a damp, mildewed mess.

Strapped covers are awesome. You can put the cover on the boat, snug up the
straps and make the cover as tight as a drum skin. This way the rain will
just run off, keeping the inside of the boat far dryer than the elastic type
of covers. The big problem I seen here is how are you going to get the
straps around the boat?

Snapped covers are somewhat of a pain in the butt. You have to have holes
drilled in the boat to install the male half of the snap. The snap half in
the cover has a tendency to tear through and if the boat sits for a long
time, I've seen the snaps rust together. But, this is the only alternative
that I see as being reasonable for your application. You'll be able to put
the cover on the boat and secure it while it's in the water. It will also
be tight enough that most of the rain will run off.

That's the way I see it anyway. Good luck,
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Calif Bill February 20th, 2004 06:48 PM

boat cover
 

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"JackTr" wrote in message
om...
Anyone keep their bass boat in a slip? Just wondering if you do if you
use a regular mooring cover or did you order a special "snap" cover to
keep out the elements. Also, I would appreciate any advice on what is
the absolute best way to insure that the bilge pump will work in my
absence, while boat is in the slip. I know accidents may happen.
Thanks very much. This is the best bass NG I have found.


I don't keep my boat in a slip, but I'll give you my thoughts on the

matter.

Boat covers come in three types, elastic edged, snaps and straps.

Elastic edged is going to be the easiest to put on and take off. BUT,
unless you're in a covered slip, rainwater is going to pool on the cover,
eventually soak through and the boat is going to be a damp, mildewed mess.

Strapped covers are awesome. You can put the cover on the boat, snug up

the
straps and make the cover as tight as a drum skin. This way the rain will
just run off, keeping the inside of the boat far dryer than the elastic

type
of covers. The big problem I seen here is how are you going to get the
straps around the boat?

Snapped covers are somewhat of a pain in the butt. You have to have holes
drilled in the boat to install the male half of the snap. The snap half

in
the cover has a tendency to tear through and if the boat sits for a long
time, I've seen the snaps rust together. But, this is the only

alternative
that I see as being reasonable for your application. You'll be able to

put
the cover on the boat and secure it while it's in the water. It will also
be tight enough that most of the rain will run off.

That's the way I see it anyway. Good luck,
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



I have a snap on cover. The snaps are stainless, so no rust. There is a
reinforcement sewed around the edge on mine so the snaps do not pull
through. And they sewed a reinforcment in the middle with a snap, so an
adustible rod with the male part of the snap, can prop up the cover for
rain. I trailer with the cover, so no worries of stuff blowing out, and
stuff is out of sight. Bu be prepared for $$$ shock. Mine was about $750
and that was for a replacment, with the boat snaps already installed. Mine
is TopGun fabric, very durable, which the first one lasted 12 years.



RichG February 20th, 2004 08:30 PM

boat cover
 
If you can get all the way around your slip ( not just one-sided )...I have
read about using the "stretch on " type cover with removable sandbags
attached to pull it tight . I haven't tried it, but ...it might just work.
They are pretty reasonable compared to the "fitted" covers. RichG



JackTr February 22nd, 2004 04:22 PM

boat cover
 
"RichG" wrote in message ...
Just a comment on "two bilge pumps.... It is fairly common to install the
second (often larger ) bilge pump a few inches above the "primary and often
smaller " bilge pump. That way, if the first one doesn't handle all of the
water, the second one kicks in and can work in conjunction with the primary.
Of course, if both are connected to the same battery..and that battery is
down, it doesn't matter how many bilge pumps you have. If I had to leave my
boat in a slip, and it had electrical connections, I'd work out a 110 volt
converter to be sure that , if my battery went down, the shore power would
suffice. RichG


Thanks for responding Rich. Actually, I have access to electric only
after I come in from fishing, to re-charge trolling motor battery. So
I will have the cranking battery and the other too. How does this
effect the bilge power pump (s). I'm just not sure how all of this
electrical stuff comes together, in by bones I feel like I am going to
have a mess on my hands. Is there any way to use the cranking battery
for the trolling motor or bilge pump in case the other battery is ot
fully charged? I appreciate your help. Jack T.

JackTr February 22nd, 2004 04:27 PM

boat cover
 
Thanks Steve for your feedback. Now I'm really not sure at all what to
do. The boat (LUND 1650 REBEL, 2004) does come with a cover, but, and
I know I should know this by now, I don't know yet what kind of cover,
only that it does indeed have "drawstrings" of some sort. Due to
recent disc surgery I can't trailer the boat, so I am stuck with the
slip. So my dilemna is A. how do I protect the boat from the elements
(& birds) and B. how much of a problem will I, could I, have with the
bilge pump (s). The boat does have two batteries. Thanks for the help.

Jack T.

Calif Bill February 22nd, 2004 09:38 PM

boat cover
 
I think most of your concers are waves and rain. I live next to sal****er,
and we have thousands of boats slipped around here, and very few sink.
Mostly very old with failed through hulls. Since you lund probably only has
the rubber transon plug as a though hull, very little concern from hoses
breaking. With a good cover keeping the rain out and not having a place
where large waves can break over the transom, you should have very little
concerns.
Bill

"JackTr" wrote in message
om...
Thanks Steve for your feedback. Now I'm really not sure at all what to
do. The boat (LUND 1650 REBEL, 2004) does come with a cover, but, and
I know I should know this by now, I don't know yet what kind of cover,
only that it does indeed have "drawstrings" of some sort. Due to
recent disc surgery I can't trailer the boat, so I am stuck with the
slip. So my dilemna is A. how do I protect the boat from the elements
(& birds) and B. how much of a problem will I, could I, have with the
bilge pump (s). The boat does have two batteries. Thanks for the help.

Jack T.




Dan Hosek February 23rd, 2004 02:45 PM

boat cover
 
(JackTr) wrote in
om:

Thanks Steve for your feedback. Now I'm really not sure at all what to
do. The boat (LUND 1650 REBEL, 2004) does come with a cover, but, and
I know I should know this by now, I don't know yet what kind of cover,
only that it does indeed have "drawstrings" of some sort. Due to
recent disc surgery I can't trailer the boat, so I am stuck with the
slip. So my dilemna is A. how do I protect the boat from the elements
(& birds) and B. how much of a problem will I, could I, have with the
bilge pump (s). The boat does have two batteries. Thanks for the help.

Jack T.


We dock several boats (one an old Ranger, and a few other runabouts) up in
Canada, where we may not use them for a week or two at a time.

Personally, I've always had snap-on covers made (canvas) for the boats.
They do sometimes leak a little, but they remain relatively watertight and
waterproof. Just take care never to take them off when they are wet, and
leave them off for a while (they do strech and shrink).

As far as the bilge goes.....get a pump with an automatic float switch.
Then just remember to check the batteries periodically.


JackTr February 23rd, 2004 02:52 PM

boat cover
 
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net...
I think most of your concers are waves and rain. I live next to sal****er,
and we have thousands of boats slipped around here, and very few sink.
Mostly very old with failed through hulls. Since you lund probably only has
the rubber transon plug as a though hull, very little concern from hoses
breaking. With a good cover keeping the rain out and not having a place
where large waves can break over the transom, you should have very little
concerns.
Bill

Thanks again Bill. All makes sense to me. Do you think I should have
a back-up bilge pump, just in case. And how do I make sure the bilge
pump will work automatically if I'm away from the boat for a few days.
Jack

Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers February 23rd, 2004 03:04 PM

boat cover
 

"JackTr" wrote in message SNIP

Thanks again Bill. All makes sense to me. Do you think I should have
a back-up bilge pump, just in case. And how do I make sure the bilge
pump will work automatically if I'm away from the boat for a few days.
Jack


A back up bilge pump does make sense. All you can do is install one and
test it. Dump some water into the bilge area and see if the pump kicks in.
Then it's a matter of making darned sure you have your batteries charged
when the boat is going to sit unattended.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Calif Bill February 23rd, 2004 06:52 PM

boat cover
 

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"JackTr" wrote in message SNIP

Thanks again Bill. All makes sense to me. Do you think I should have
a back-up bilge pump, just in case. And how do I make sure the bilge
pump will work automatically if I'm away from the boat for a few days.
Jack


A back up bilge pump does make sense. All you can do is install one and
test it. Dump some water into the bilge area and see if the pump kicks

in.
Then it's a matter of making darned sure you have your batteries charged
when the boat is going to sit unattended.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



I run dual bilge pumps. But I also boat in the ocean and the Sacramento
Delta can get very rough. Both are on float switches and one pump is
mounted higher than the other. That way if one fails then the other will
kick in. Just make sure your batteries are good and charged. If a major
hole in the bottom of the boat appears, you are sunk, but those are really
few and far between in a small boat at the dock. Waves and rain will be
taken care of by the pumps.
Bill



JackTr February 24th, 2004 01:50 AM

boat cover
 
thanks guys, so helpful. reallly do appreciate it. Jack.


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