Western Conclave
 

Hello Folks,

Just thought I would stop in and get a list of who is coming to the
conclave this year. I have received emails from a few people and
updated the clave webpage with the info that I have. If you have any
questions or need anything, email is the best way to get in touch with
me (addy is in my sig line but you have to unmunge it). Once I get
email addies for everyone coming, I will set up the "clave broadcasting
system" to send out any updates, info, etc.
--
Warren
email me using troutbum_mt(atnospam)yahoo.com
Clave Information:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html

On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 10:30:17 -0700, Warren wrote:

Hello Folks,

Just thought I would stop in and get a list of who is coming to the
conclave this year.

I'll be there, and I see my name's already on the list. I should get to the
clave campground early (Wed or Thu) and will warn the host. g
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com/ - photo galleries
http://www.chocphoto.com/roff

"Warren" wrote in message
...
Hello Folks,

Just thought I would stop in and get a list of who is coming to the
conclave this year. I have received emails from a few people and
updated the clave webpage with the info that I have. If you have any
questions or need anything, email is the best way to get in touch with
me (addy is in my sig line but you have to unmunge it). Once I get
email addies for everyone coming, I will set up the "clave broadcasting
system" to send out any updates, info, etc.
--
Warren
email me using troutbum_mt(atnospam)yahoo.com
Clave Information:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html

Hoot Mann or some such stuff as they say in old scotland--warren I'm glad to
hear from you--think Jeff and I have already bought half of Slider's Inn for
the week so put our name down as ATTENDING. I'm riding the White Buffalo
out from North Carolina so if any of you guys live across a likely route
across country and have an extra bed or good local stream you would like to
share please let me know.
Will try to hear some good blues in delta of Mississippi, and maybe a
Cherokee Clave in Colorado on way out so may show up singing Leadbelly
tunes with an attractive buffalo headdress but will be ready to catch fish
and clink glasses and trade drolleries around camp fire at night.

Guess you can guess tell I won my tennis match this afternoon and have been
enjoying a couple of manhattans, so am enjoying a sort of epistolary
climax---- Indian Joe

Nice to hear from you Warren! I've been tying flies for the Madison.

bruce h

"Warren" wrote in message
...
Hello Folks,

Just thought I would stop in and get a list of who is coming to the
conclave this year.

Put me on the list and keep me up to date, but I might not be able to go.
Sure hope I can....

On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 03:49:29 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote:

I'm riding the White Buffalo
out from North Carolina so if any of you guys live across a likely route
across country and have an extra bed or good local stream you would like to
share please let me know.

Glad to hear the White Buffalo is making the trip and congrats on your tennis
win. How long are you staying after the clave? I'm thinking of staying a
couple of weeks or so after.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com/ - photo galleries
http://www.chocphoto.com/roff

jeffc wrote:

"Warren" wrote in message
...

Hello Folks,

Just thought I would stop in and get a list of who is coming to the
conclave this year.


Put me on the list and keep me up to date, but I might not be able to go.
Sure hope I can....


let's see...married 3 years (is that right?), one child (or have i
underestimated the fecundity), and haven't been seen nor heard of in a
long while. yup...i'd say it's about time for your resurrection. g

good to hear from you and hope to see you again this year. btw, the
shad are running in the neuse tribs and in the tar river...still too
early for the roanoke. let me know if you're interested in a day trip.
you should try flyfishing for them on the upper roanoke around the end
of march until late april. big rocks, lots of fish, and they'll put a
bend in your rod. i know you'd enjoy it. there is a group out of raleigh
(tr-fly listserv) who usually do the trip several times and have plenty
of experience.

jeff

think Jeff and I have already bought half of Slider's Inn for the week so
put our name down as ATTENDING.

So thats why the Maryland contingent can't buy a room. I think were staying
somewhere close to the middle of the park. :-)

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

"bruiser" wrote in message
...
Nice to hear from you Warren! I've been tying flies for the Madison.

bruce h


I'll be there and I'm bringing my bud, Harry.

Bruiser, whatcha tying? What was that stonefly pattern that you were
hammering them with above Raynold's Bridge?

Danl

In article ,
"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote:

think Jeff and I have already bought half of Slider's Inn for the week so
put our name down as ATTENDING.

So thats why the Maryland contingent can't buy a room. I think were staying
somewhere close to the middle of the park. :-)

Actually we're (Frank, Gene and myself) at the Rainbow Valley Lodge when
we get there on the 9th then 10 to 14th at the Madison River Cabins then
back at the Rainbow the night of the 14th. Figure am on the 15th we head
towards Bozeman afishin' along the way, (looking for small stream
suggestions) spend the night at Bozeman then catch an early flight home
on the 16th.

Next time I'll start looking for lodging a whole lot earlier so we don't
have to do the shuffle.

Allen
Catonsville, MD

"Danl" wrote in message

Bruiser, whatcha tying? What was that stonefly pattern

For dries I'm tying big foam stuff and stimulators as well as small and tiny
X Caddis for the evenings.

Nymphs - PTs and Caddis, hare's ears, golden stone nymphs, bunny leeches,
SJWs, and yellow sallies.

I think it was the Pheasant Tail and the deep sparkle caddis nymph that were
so hot for me that last morning by Raynalds.

My goal is to tie lots of flies and not use them in other rivers before the
trip, so I don't need to bring any tying gear with me. Normally I bring all
the gear and then end up tying about 10 flies all week and giving 5 of those
away.

Where's everyone camping by the way? Maybe it's on Warren's website.

bruce h

"bruiser" wrote in message
...
For dries I'm tying big foam stuff and stimulators as well as small and
tiny
X Caddis for the evenings.

Nymphs - PTs and Caddis, hare's ears, golden stone nymphs, bunny leeches,
SJWs, and yellow sallies.

Can you post your pattern for golden stones?


I think it was the Pheasant Tail and the deep sparkle caddis nymph that
were
so hot for me that last morning by Raynalds.

My goal is to tie lots of flies and not use them in other rivers before
the
trip, so I don't need to bring any tying gear with me. Normally I bring
all
the gear and then end up tying about 10 flies all week and giving 5 of
those
away.

Yeah, same here. I'm leaving the camper at home and flying this time, so no
tying kit at the clave.


Where's everyone camping by the way? Maybe it's on Warren's website.

Warren's got his web site updated for this year, so check there. It's the
same campground as last year, Cabin Creek Campground. I believe that Harry
and I are staying across the road at the Campfire Inn (???). Its the place
we ate breakfast on a few mornings.

Danl


bruce h

For dries I'm tying big foam stuff and stimulators as well as small and
tiny X Caddis for the evenings.

What color bodies on those X Caddis? Size 18s?

Nymphs - PTs and Caddis, hare's ears, golden stone nymphs, bunny leeches,
SJWs, and yellow sallies.

I think it was the Pheasant Tail and the deep sparkle caddis nymph that
were so hot for me that last morning by Raynalds.

Again, colors on the caddis?

Trying to tie for the trip.


--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
news:DOCWd.48159$7z6.35796@lakeread04...
let's see...married 3 years (is that right?), one child (or have i
underestimated the fecundity), and haven't been seen nor heard of in a
long while. yup...i'd say it's about time for your resurrection. g

good to hear from you and hope to see you again this year. btw, the
shad are running in the neuse tribs and in the tar river...

Thanks a lot for the invite. Your list above is right (8 month old child),
although it's missing a few things:
- new job started last week (no vacation time for 3 months)
- moving into a new house in 3 weeks
- battling a (relatively small potatoes) court case against insurgent
Hence the lack of time and opportunity. But even if I can't go you've at
least given me a little daydream fuel.....

"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote

What color bodies on those X Caddis? Size 18s?

Mine will be tan or light brown, size 18, but I'd refer to Warren for much
better advice. I wasn't exactly slaying them in the evenings with that
pattern. Jeff Miller outfished me per minute by about 100 to 1.


Again, colors on the caddis?

Mine are mostly green with tan antron. I like that quick descent dubbing in
the various caddis colors for that pattern.

bruce h

What color bodies on those X Caddis? Size 18s?

Mine will be tan or light brown, size 18, but I'd refer to Warren for
much better advice. I wasn't exactly slaying them in the evenings with
that pattern. Jeff Miller outfished me per minute by about 100 to 1.


Okay, will do. Tying as we speak.

Again, colors on the caddis?

Mine are mostly green with tan antron. I like that quick descent dubbing
in the various caddis colors for that pattern.

Hmm, haven't seen that yet. Will have to check it out.
Frank Reid

Jeff,
Add me to the list please. Will probably bring my better half if she can
manage getting time off her court chores for a week. I will contact the
Slide Inn tomorrow for any vacancies. Bruiser, Charlie, Danl, John,Willi and
the rest of you Clavers. Any suggestions for lodging would be appreciated if
the Slide Inn is full.
Thanks in Advance,
Guy

"Warren" wrote in message
...
Hello Folks,

Just thought I would stop in and get a list of who is coming to the
conclave this year. I have received emails from a few people and
updated the clave webpage with the info that I have. If you have any
questions or need anything, email is the best way to get in touch with
me (addy is in my sig line but you have to unmunge it). Once I get
email addies for everyone coming, I will set up the "clave broadcasting
system" to send out any updates, info, etc.
--
Warren
email me using troutbum_mt(atnospam)yahoo.com
Clave Information:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html

On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 22:27:04 -0600, "Guy Thornberg"
wrote:

Any suggestions for lodging would be appreciated if
the Slide Inn is full.

I will be camping same as last year, but there is a list of lodging
alternatives on Warren's web page. The Campfire Lodge Resort is right across
the road from the campground. I don't know what the rooms are like but they
serve a good breakfast - albeit with not much of a wine selection or nude
beach.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com/ - photo galleries
http://www.chocphoto.com/roff

By the way, the Summer 2003 issue of Flytyer has "Madison Guide Flies."


--
Frank Reid
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 08:09:16 -0500, Frank Reid wrote:

By the way, the Summer 2003 issue of Flytyer has "Madison Guide Flies."

The March 2005 "Fly Fisherman" has an article about the Madison.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com/ - photo galleries
http://www.chocphoto.com/roff

Thanks Charlie!

"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 22:27:04 -0600, "Guy Thornberg"
wrote:

Any suggestions for lodging would be appreciated if
the Slide Inn is full.

I will be camping same as last year, but there is a list of lodging
alternatives on Warren's web page. The Campfire Lodge Resort is right
across
the road from the campground. I don't know what the rooms are like but
they
serve a good breakfast - albeit with not much of a wine selection or nude
beach.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com/ - photo galleries
http://www.chocphoto.com/roff

"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
...

I don't know what the rooms are like but they
serve a good breakfast - albeit with not much of a wine selection or nude
beach.
--
Charlie...

While I realize that a wine selection can be problematic, the nude beach
part should be easily enough rectified?

Mark --Who, sadly and thankfully, will likely not be in attendance for the
4th or 5th straight year--

"Danl" wrote in message
Can you post your pattern for golden stones?

Danl, I just try to tie them like Willi does, very simple with biot tails
and some lead underneath a very buggy body. Kind of yellowish with a
slightly darker wingcase.
Mine are nothing special. Willi's look really cool : -)

bh

"bruiser" wrote in message
...

"Danl" wrote in message
Can you post your pattern for golden stones?

Danl, I just try to tie them like Willi does, very simple with biot tails
and some lead underneath a very buggy body. Kind of yellowish with a
slightly darker wingcase.
Mine are nothing special. Willi's look really cool : -)

So how about posting a pic? Either you or Willi will do. I'm interested
because a) I need to tie some for the Madison and b) I'm going to try some
on the Kern River this weekend.



bh
BeadHead?

Danl

"Warren" wrote in message
...
Hello Folks,

Just thought I would stop in and get a list of who is coming to the
conclave this year. I have received emails from a few people and
updated the clave webpage with the info that I have. If you have any
questions or need anything, email is the best way to get in touch with
me (addy is in my sig line but you have to unmunge it). Once I get
email addies for everyone coming, I will set up the "clave broadcasting
system" to send out any updates, info, etc.
--
Warren
email me using troutbum_mt(atnospam)yahoo.com
Clave Information:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html

I may make a long weekend, but not the entire trip. I'll be throwing a
small tent at the campsite if I can make it. I'll have to find another way
to get that shotgun to you.

Randy

So how about posting a pic? Either you or Willi will do. I'm interested
because a) I need to tie some for the Madison and b) I'm going to try some
on the Kern River this weekend.

Danl,
You must have recovered from your "California Flu" or "100 Day Cold".
Great! See you at the Clave.
Guy

"Guy Thornberg" wrote in message
...
Danl,
You must have recovered from your "California Flu" or "100 Day Cold".
Great! See you at the Clave.
Guy

Guy,

Actually, it was the 100 Day Cold California Flu and, yes, I'm finally over
it. Damned thing really had me down for a while. And, yes, I will certainly
see you at the Clave. Did I read that you were bringing Gal with you?

Danl

bugcaster wrote:
"Warren" wrote in message
...
Hello Folks,

Just thought I would stop in and get a list of who is coming to the
conclave this year. I have received emails from a few people and
updated the clave webpage with the info that I have. If you have
any
questions or need anything, email is the best way to get in touch
with
me (addy is in my sig line but you have to unmunge it). Once I get
email addies for everyone coming, I will set up the "clave
broadcasting
system" to send out any updates, info, etc.
--
Warren
email me using troutbum_mt(atnospam)yahoo.com
Clave Information:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html

I may make a long weekend, but not the entire trip. I'll be throwing
a
small tent at the campsite if I can make it. I'll have to find
another way
to get that shotgun to you.

Randy

I checked the TroutFlies.com web page and I think that the logic of
"getting what you pay for" is sound. My panic question is, I roughly
counted almost 100 fly patterns on the list for the "Western Clave
2005". Let's see, 100 patterns times 3 sizes times 6 each = 1800
flies. I guess I won't be able to work much between now and then.
Seriously, is there a more reasonable (pared down) list? Thanks in
advance.

On 8 Mar 2005 16:10:43 -0800, "Gene Cyprych"
wrote:


bugcaster wrote:
"Warren" wrote in message
...
Hello Folks,

Just thought I would stop in and get a list of who is coming to the
conclave this year. I have received emails from a few people and
updated the clave webpage with the info that I have. If you have
any
questions or need anything, email is the best way to get in touch
with
me (addy is in my sig line but you have to unmunge it). Once I get
email addies for everyone coming, I will set up the "clave
broadcasting
system" to send out any updates, info, etc.
--
Warren
email me using troutbum_mt(atnospam)yahoo.com
Clave Information:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html

I may make a long weekend, but not the entire trip. I'll be throwing
a
small tent at the campsite if I can make it. I'll have to find
another way
to get that shotgun to you.

Randy

I checked the TroutFlies.com web page and I think that the logic of
"getting what you pay for" is sound. My panic question is, I roughly
counted almost 100 fly patterns on the list for the "Western Clave
2005". Let's see, 100 patterns times 3 sizes times 6 each = 1800
flies. I guess I won't be able to work much between now and then.
Seriously, is there a more reasonable (pared down) list? Thanks in
advance.

though I would like seeing you purchase 1800 bugs it's not really
necessary :-) The list is a guide, granted a rather large one. Pick
ones that you like...people are coming from all over the place and
some don't like Goddard Caddis but do like Elk Hair style Caddis, some
prefer Stimulators over Bullet Heads and visa versa. It's a "wine
list" of patterns, you decide what varietals you like :-)
Keep in mind that you will need some of each of the patterns that will
represent; Caddis, Stoneflies, Mays, Attractors and some
terrestrials. Two to three patterns of each in maybe three sizes
would be about 60 to 100 bugs. You will spend more, in orders of
magnitude, on gas :-)
If you or anyone else has a question or six, drop me a note.
Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

Yes, The wife...
I will tri-pod her in the river in the morning and check on her at dusk. Oh
man, hope she doesn't read this...I could die a slow death. Where are you
staying? Slide Inn I hope.
Guy

"Danl" wrote in message
...

"Guy Thornberg" wrote in message
...
Danl,
You must have recovered from your "California Flu" or "100 Day Cold".
Great! See you at the Clave.
Guy

Guy,

Actually, it was the 100 Day Cold California Flu and, yes, I'm finally
over
it. Damned thing really had me down for a while. And, yes, I will
certainly
see you at the Clave. Did I read that you were bringing Gal with you?

Danl

wrote...
I checked the TroutFlies.com web page and I think that the logic of
"getting what you pay for" is sound. My panic question is, I roughly
counted almost 100 fly patterns on the list for the "Western Clave
2005". Let's see, 100 patterns times 3 sizes times 6 each = 1800
flies. I guess I won't be able to work much between now and then.
Seriously, is there a more reasonable (pared down) list? Thanks in
advance.

Buy/tie the most important and basics and then buy/tie whatever you
don't have when you get here. Caddis, stones, pheasant tails, zug bugs,
princes, hare's ears, etc etc are essential. Blue spotted ass caddis
emergers in size 19 you can probably do without. ;-)
--
Warren
email me using troutbum_mt(insert at symbol)yahoo.com
Clave Information:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html

Hi Bones,
Excellent website troutflies.com.
I need help with mine: guysflies.com...no flies yet.
G


though I would like seeing you purchase 1800 bugs it's not really
necessary :-) The list is a guide, granted a rather large one. Pick
ones that you like...people are coming from all over the place and
some don't like Goddard Caddis but do like Elk Hair style Caddis, some
prefer Stimulators over Bullet Heads and visa versa. It's a "wine
list" of patterns, you decide what varietals you like :-)
Keep in mind that you will need some of each of the patterns that will
represent; Caddis, Stoneflies, Mays, Attractors and some
terrestrials. Two to three patterns of each in maybe three sizes
would be about 60 to 100 bugs. You will spend more, in orders of
magnitude, on gas :-)
If you or anyone else has a question or six, drop me a note.
Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

wrote...
snipped
If you or anyone else has a question or six, drop me a note.

Or ask Harry to bring his mobile shop and buy when you get there as
needed. Harry has to spend a lot of time with his SO, but *she* is
always up for him making some money. BSEG
--
Warren
email me using troutbum_mt(insert at symbol)yahoo.com
Clave Information:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html

"bruiser" wrote...
Nice to hear from you Warren! I've been tying flies for the Madison.

Nice to hear from you, too! Glad to hear you have been tying flies for
the clave; I may need to borrow some this year. g I wish I could
report that I have been fishing and tying a ton, but life has kept me
busier than I care to be right now. RW's advice about "planning now for
your future" finally seemed to have taken root..... :-|

Drop me an email or get ahold of me on the bulltin board at
www.flyanglersonline.com if you need anything.
--
Warren
troutbum_mt (insert the symbol for at) yahoo dot com
Clave Information:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html

Warren wrote:
wrote...
I checked the TroutFlies.com web page and I think that the logic of
"getting what you pay for" is sound. My panic question is, I
roughly
counted almost 100 fly patterns on the list for the "Western Clave
2005". Let's see, 100 patterns times 3 sizes times 6 each = 1800
flies. I guess I won't be able to work much between now and then.
Seriously, is there a more reasonable (pared down) list? Thanks in
advance.

Buy/tie the most important and basics and then buy/tie whatever you
don't have when you get here. Caddis, stones, pheasant tails, zug
bugs,
princes, hare's ears, etc etc are essential. Blue spotted ass caddis

emergers in size 19 you can probably do without. ;-)
--
Warren
email me using troutbum_mt(insert at symbol)yahoo.com
Clave Information:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html

Oh pushaw! I just tied 4 dozen Blue Spotted Ass Caddis emergers.
Actually 1 dozen BSAC emergers, 1 dozen BSAC duns, 1 dozen BSAC
spinners, and 1 nymph stage. ;-)
I appreciate you keeping me in line. I will look again at
Troutflies.com to add to my flybox.

"bones" wrote in message
though I would like seeing you purchase 1800 bugs it's not really
necessary :-) The list is a guide, granted a rather large one. Pick
ones that you like...people are coming from all over the place and
some don't like Goddard Caddis but do like Elk Hair style Caddis, some
prefer Stimulators over Bullet Heads and visa versa. It's a "wine
list" of patterns, you decide what varietals you like :-)
Keep in mind that you will need some of each of the patterns that will
represent; Caddis, Stoneflies, Mays, Attractors and some
terrestrials. Two to three patterns of each in maybe three sizes
would be about 60 to 100 bugs. You will spend more, in orders of
magnitude, on gas :-)
If you or anyone else has a question or six, drop me a note.
Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

IJ suggests--for us non tiers why don"t you make up a package deal of
three of each of eight most needed flies---
I'll send check tomorrow.

Gene,

You'll REALLY need the BSAC cripple! Sizes 4 to 20 in brown, tan, light
olive, and mottled.

Seriously, though, buy anything you don't tie from Harry at
routflies.com - flies at the shops in Montana are nice but Harry's are
nicer and far less expensive.

bruce h

And don't forget the Purina Caddis.

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:41:39 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote:


"bones" wrote in message
though I would like seeing you purchase 1800 bugs it's not really
necessary :-) The list is a guide, granted a rather large one. Pick
ones that you like...people are coming from all over the place and
some don't like Goddard Caddis but do like Elk Hair style Caddis, some
prefer Stimulators over Bullet Heads and visa versa. It's a "wine
list" of patterns, you decide what varietals you like :-)
Keep in mind that you will need some of each of the patterns that will
represent; Caddis, Stoneflies, Mays, Attractors and some
terrestrials. Two to three patterns of each in maybe three sizes
would be about 60 to 100 bugs. You will spend more, in orders of
magnitude, on gas :-)
If you or anyone else has a question or six, drop me a note.
Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

IJ suggests--for us non tiers why don"t you make up a package deal of
three of each of eight most needed flies---
I'll send check tomorrow.

I can do that... one for dries and one for nymphs...that's the
ticket:-)
Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

"Guy Thornberg" wrote in message
...
Yes, The wife...
I will tri-pod her in the river in the morning and check on her at dusk.
Oh
man, hope she doesn't read this...I could die a slow death. Where are you
staying? Slide Inn I hope.
Guy



Don't know yet. I'm still looking...

Danl

Danl wrote:
"Guy Thornberg" wrote:
... Where are you
staying? Slide Inn I hope.

Don't know yet. I'm still looking...


I read somewhere in this thread that the Maryland
contingent plans to stay at Rainbow Ranch Lodge.

http://www.rainbowranch.com/

Excellent choice, in my not so humble opinion.
I've stayed there before and it's comfortable.
There's an attached restaurant and I think it's
the best food in the valley. It is a good little
drive away from the Clave Central campsite.
(That could be a "bug" or a "feature." ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry