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Osmo Jauhiainen March 8th, 2005 08:59 PM

Racoon Dog hair
 
Hi,

I just got a racoon dog from my neighbor who is hunting these.
I am going to test the hair for flytying. Any ideas?

This animal originates from Russia and has been spreading
wide in Finland.

OsmoJ



Scott Seidman March 8th, 2005 09:51 PM

"Osmo Jauhiainen" wrote in news:422e1229
:

I just got a racoon dog from my neighbor who is hunting these.
I am going to test the hair for flytying. Any ideas?


Never heard of it. Does it chase itself up trees?

Scott

riverman March 8th, 2005 10:18 PM


"Osmo Jauhiainen" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I just got a racoon dog from my neighbor who is hunting these.
I am going to test the hair for flytying. Any ideas?

This animal originates from Russia and has been spreading
wide in Finland.

OsmoJ


Hey Osmo!
I know english isn't your first language (but its still a lot better than my
Dutch), but your post is pretty funny! :-)

I'm not at all sure if you're saying the RACCOON orginates from Russia, or
the DOG does. And most of all, are you going to test the RACCOON hair for
flys, or the DOG hair? I would assume you mean the raccoon, but the title
sounds like you mean the dog.

--riverman



[email protected] March 8th, 2005 10:57 PM

Have a look at http://www.askohamalainen.com/Supikoira-Racoon-Dog.html

Dave


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 23:18:17 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:


"Osmo Jauhiainen" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I just got a racoon dog from my neighbor who is hunting these.
I am going to test the hair for flytying. Any ideas?

This animal originates from Russia and has been spreading
wide in Finland.

OsmoJ


Hey Osmo!
I know english isn't your first language (but its still a lot better than my
Dutch), but your post is pretty funny! :-)

I'm not at all sure if you're saying the RACCOON orginates from Russia, or
the DOG does. And most of all, are you going to test the RACCOON hair for
flys, or the DOG hair? I would assume you mean the raccoon, but the title
sounds like you mean the dog.

--riverman



Anthony March 9th, 2005 12:11 AM

Seems that he means what he's sayin... heh...funny tho.

Anthony



bearsbuddy March 9th, 2005 12:53 AM


wrote in message
...
Have a look at http://www.askohamalainen.com/Supikoira-Racoon-Dog.html

Dave


Is this some kind of cross between a 'coon and a porcupine?

Mark



Guy Thornberg March 9th, 2005 02:27 AM

Funny! I was thinking a cross between Rocky Raccoon and a dog.
(Probably look like my house ruint' beagle).
Guy

"bearsbuddy" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
Have a look at http://www.askohamalainen.com/Supikoira-Racoon-Dog.html

Dave


Is this some kind of cross between a 'coon and a porcupine?

Mark





Mike Bernardoni March 9th, 2005 02:43 AM

COON DOG....they've been in the USA since the Pioneers. They are used
to hunt Racoons. My brother has 4 coon dogs. Mike

Guy Thornberg March 9th, 2005 04:45 AM

"Dang Finlanders" says my Grandpa Gosta Sigfried of Sweden let'n them dang
dogs spread around like that... Or was it John Voelker in "Trout Madness"?
G.

"Osmo Jauhiainen" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I just got a racoon dog from my neighbor who is hunting these.
I am going to test the hair for flytying. Any ideas?

This animal originates from Russia and has been spreading
wide in Finland.

OsmoJ





Osmo Jauhiainen March 9th, 2005 11:14 AM


kirjoitti viestissä
...
Have a look at http://www.askohamalainen.com/Supikoira-Racoon-Dog.html


Yeah! This is excatly the species I was talking about! I have seen two
names for it:
racoon dog and raccoon dog. It is one of the predators living here in
Finland.

More information: http://www.canids.org/SPPACCTS/raccoond.htm

The hair is in excellent condition at this time of the year, very tight.
Dark colored grey/brownish.

I have not skinned the creature yet but I am going to do it soon.
So, I will have the whole fur available for flytying.

Osmo



Vaughan Hurry March 9th, 2005 09:09 PM

Osmo Jauhiainen wrote:
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names for it:
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Osmo,

Hope you winter has been fun! Looks like it would make some nice long=20
hairwing streamers for fishing places like - now this is just for=20
example mind - Lais=E4lven. Spare a swatch? :-)

I look forward to seeing a few flies next time...


Vaughan

Osmo Jauhiainen March 9th, 2005 09:35 PM


"Vaughan Hurry" wrote in message

news:422f661a$0$29282Osmo,

Hope you winter has been fun! Looks like it would make some nice long
hairwing streamers for fishing places like - now this is just for
example mind - Laisälven. Spare a swatch? :-)

I look forward to seeing a few flies next time...


Vaughan,

I have been thinking! This raccoon dog might be similar with bear hair!
I am not sure yet. Maybe a subsubstitute for bear hair for Nalle Puh,
the famous dry fly from Finland. But I am sure that this will be good
for wing for streamers for trout/salmon.

Hope to get ideas.

You are living rather close to me! I hope to meat you and bring this skin
with
me for finding good solutions for this hair.

Osmo



Vaughan Hurry March 10th, 2005 08:29 AM

Osmo Jauhiainen wrote:

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Vaughan,
=20
I have been thinking! This raccoon dog might be similar with bear hair=

!
I am not sure yet. Maybe a subsubstitute for bear hair for Nalle Puh,
the famous dry fly from Finland. But I am sure that this will be good
for wing for streamers for trout/salmon.
=20
Hope to get ideas.
=20
You are living rather close to me! I hope to meat you and bring this s=

kin
with
me for finding good solutions for this hair.
=20
Osmo
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=20


Osmo,
I'm not sure what the fishing plans are for this summer - other than to=20
do as much as possible - but hopefully we can cross paths. I have never=20
fished a Nalle Puh but have carried 2 a friend gave me in my fly box for =

5 years. I should give them a swim this spring. I must admit, I did not=20
know the pattern used bear hair.
Let me know what you are up to when you have some plans. At this point=20
Jarmo and I have plans to return to Lais=E4lven late July early August.=20
But this is flexible. I am also toying with the idea of going back to=20
Rostuelva in early July. However, as some of the boys are coming for=20
dinner this Saturday I expect these plans are likely to soon change.

Vaughan

Jarmo Hurri March 10th, 2005 10:17 AM


Vaughan At this point Jarmo and I have plans to return to Laisälven
Vaughan late July early August. But this is flexible. I am also
Vaughan toying with the idea of going back to Rostuelva in early
Vaughan July. However, as some of the boys are coming for dinner this
Vaughan Saturday I expect these plans are likely to soon change.

Since you are in the middle of making plans, let me inform you that
the wedding that I have to be at is on the 16th of July. This means
that early July, end of July and early August are all fair game. (I
still suppose early August would be best for Laisan, but have no
objections with other plans.)

My 2wt and 5wt are starting to itch already. :-)

--
Jarmo Hurri

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Osmo Jauhiainen March 10th, 2005 10:25 AM


"Vaughan Hurry" wrote in message
...

Osmo,
I'm not sure what the fishing plans are for this summer - other than to
do as much as possible - but hopefully we can cross paths. I have never
fished a Nalle Puh but have carried 2 a friend gave me in my fly box for
5 years. I should give them a swim this spring. I must admit, I did not
know the pattern used bear hair.
Let me know what you are up to when you have some plans. At this point
Jarmo and I have plans to return to Laisälven late July early August.
But this is flexible. I am also toying with the idea of going back to
Rostuelva in early July. However, as some of the boys are coming for
dinner this Saturday I expect these plans are likely to soon change.


I am still keeping my July open. I still hope that I can join the western
clave
6th to 14th of July. My wife is celebrating her 50th birthday next monday.
I want to take her also to states next summer.

Osmo



Jarmo Hurri March 11th, 2005 07:21 AM


Found some great photos of this creature (I've never seen one with my
own eyes):

http://homepage.mac.com/lsippu/PhotoAlbum22.html

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Osmo Jauhiainen March 11th, 2005 08:01 PM

Jarmo,

Thanks! These pictures are awesome! The one I got was dark colored but
the hair is having three colors: Root grey, the middle part light and the
tip black.

Osmo

"Jarmo Hurri" wrote in message
...

Found some great photos of this creature (I've never seen one with my
own eyes):

http://homepage.mac.com/lsippu/PhotoAlbum22.html

--
Jarmo Hurri

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Spyda Man March 15th, 2005 06:37 PM

I remember these critters while growing up in Japan, very prominant in
Japanese mythology, there they are known as TANUKI with a reputation as
mischief makers.

Spy in Hawaii


DaveMohnsen March 16th, 2005 01:10 PM


"Jarmo Hurri" wrote in message
...

Found some great photos of this creature (I've never seen one with my
own eyes):

http://homepage.mac.com/lsippu/PhotoAlbum22.html

--
Jarmo Hurri

Hi Jarmo,
Thanks for the link. Neat looking dog.
BestWishes,
DaveMohnsen
Denver





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