New Season - New License
 

Just in case there's anyone out there as forgetful as me a new license is
required in England & Wales as of today!

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...sion=1&lang=_e

I've been so busy in work plus chasing membership fee's from forgetful
members in my fishing club and repairing styles etc on the river beat, I
completely forgot to buy a new license myself!!

I purchased online about 30 mins ago. Sheesh!



--
Andy Lawson

On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 18:10:24 +0100, A strange species called "Andy
Lawson" wrote:

Just in case there's anyone out there as forgetful as me a new license is
required in England & Wales as of today!

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...sion=1&lang=_e

I've been so busy in work plus chasing membership fee's from forgetful
members in my fishing club and repairing styles etc on the river beat, I
completely forgot to buy a new license myself!!

I purchased online about 30 mins ago. Sheesh!


Hi mate! I have a couple of questions for you as I've not been fishing
for ages. I hope you or others can help.

The last time I went fishing was the late 80's early 90s, so there was
no rod license back then, just some water authority type of license.

This license from the Environment Agency, I don't completely
understand it.

If I wanted to fish on a river for Brown Trout, I would just choose
the non-migratory trout and course license right? What if I caught a
sea trout or salmon by accident though? This is the part I don't
understand.

Is the Salmon and Sea Trout license just for people who take home the
fish to eat?

I also don't understand why there is such a difference in price? It
seems to be about three times more expensive for the salmon and sea
trout license.

Is this the only license I need to fish anywhere in the country except
for private grounds?

If I have two fishing rods, does this mean I can only use one at a
time?

And finally just one more question. Is there a certain time of year
when I can't fish anywhere, on any waters? If so when is it? Or does
it vary in different places? How would I find out that info?

Cheers

John

In article , John
writes

If I wanted to fish on a river for Brown Trout, I would just choose
the non-migratory trout and course license right? What if I caught a
sea trout or salmon by accident though? This is the part I don't
understand.
The E.A. have, for reasons best known to themselves, included trout (a
game fish) in with coarse fish. Should you catch a Sea Trout (Sewin in
Wales) of Salmon you must release them unharmed to the watrer.

Is the Salmon and Sea Trout license just for people who take home the
fish to eat?

Salon and sea Trout License allows you to fish for the said fish at the
appropriate time of the year with rod and line. Youcan take them honme
and eat them if you wish except for Salmon which must be returned
unharmed if caught before 16 June in England and Wales.

I also don't understand why there is such a difference in price? It
seems to be about three times more expensive for the salmon and sea
trout license.
Tell us about it!!!

Is this the only license I need to fish anywhere in the country except
for private grounds?

You need a licence to fish with rod and line whether the fishing is
public or private. Most fishing is private be it club water private
individual or stillwater.

If I have two fishing rods, does this mean I can only use one at a
time?

A licence states you may fish with rod and line not two rods and lines.

And finally just one more question. Is there a certain time of year
when I can't fish anywhere, on any waters? If so when is it? Or does
it vary in different places? How would I find out that info?

The licence will give you the information.

You may not fish for indigenous fish during the close season. Rainbow
Trout in stillwater fisheries are usually available all the year round.
Some reservoirs close fo the winter

The above are general comments which may or may not be entirely
accurate.

--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

Hi All
Just bought my licence and it has the words "Duty Paid" upon it.
Licence my ass
Its a tax.
No more, no less.
Keith M
"Andy Lawson" wrote in message
...
Just in case there's anyone out there as forgetful as me a new license is
required in England & Wales as of today!

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...sion=1&lang=_e

I've been so busy in work plus chasing membership fee's from forgetful
members in my fishing club and repairing styles etc on the river beat, I
completely forgot to buy a new license myself!!

I purchased online about 30 mins ago. Sheesh!



--
Andy Lawson

Hi Bill.

So technically you can still fish for them but not eat them with the
cheaper license? That's good. I don't really like the taste of Salmon
or Trout anyway and would release back. I love game fishing though.

Is the Salmon and Sea Trout license just for people who take home the
fish to eat?

Salon and sea Trout License allows you to fish for the said fish at the
appropriate time of the year with rod and line. Youcan take them honme
and eat them if you wish except for Salmon which must be returned
unharmed if caught before 16 June in England and Wales.

I also don't understand why there is such a difference in price? It
seems to be about three times more expensive for the salmon and sea
trout license.
Tell us about it!!!

Who was responsible for the setting up of the EA? The last time I
went fishing I think it was called the NRA or something?

Is this the only license I need to fish anywhere in the country except
for private grounds?

You need a licence to fish with rod and line whether the fishing is
public or private. Most fishing is private be it club water private
individual or stillwater.

I would still need to pay extra to fish on some private grounds
wouldn't I?

If I have two fishing rods, does this mean I can only use one at a
time?

A licence states you may fish with rod and line not two rods and lines.

Okay. Could I have two rods with me though and just be using one at a
time? It's not really clear I don't think?

And finally just one more question. Is there a certain time of year
when I can't fish anywhere, on any waters? If so when is it? Or does
it vary in different places? How would I find out that info?

The licence will give you the information.

You may not fish for indigenous fish during the close season. Rainbow

When is close season? I take it indigenous means Brown and Wild Trout
as far as game goes? Sea Trout and Salmon, can't really be classed
indigenous can they?

As far as the prices go. Surely such a high price for the game
fishing is a very bad idea. It would surely just encourage people to
go out and kill loads of fish and sell them to recoup some cost of the
license?

John

On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:01:06 +0100, A strange species called "Keith.M"
wrote:

Hi All
Just bought my licence and it has the words "Duty Paid" upon it.
Licence my ass
Its a tax.
No more, no less.
Keith M

As with everything these days especially under Labour government :(

Look at Ken Livingstone! Communist, Racist, Terror Supporter, Labour
Party Member and Lord Mayor of London!

Has the bright idea to put the congestion tax up to £8 (a 60%
increase) because "he believes it will reduce congestion". He doesn't
believe that at all. He knows it wont, it will just generate more
money for his office and penalise decent people. I guess it serves
the London people right though for electing and then re-electing a
commie.

John

"W. D. Grey" wrote in message
...
In article , John
writes

snip

If I have two fishing rods, does this mean I can only use one at a
time?

A licence states you may fish with rod and line not two rods and lines.

Unless you are fishing for coarse fish or eels, in which case it *does*
state you may fish with two rods and lines :-)

According to the 'FAQ' on the EA website.

In message
John wrote:

On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:01:06 +0100, A strange species called "Keith.M"
wrote:

Hi All
Just bought my licence and it has the words "Duty Paid" upon it.
Licence my ass
Its a tax.
No more, no less.
Keith M

As with everything these days especially under Labour government :(

Look at Ken Livingstone! Communist, Racist, Terror Supporter, Labour
Party Member and Lord Mayor of London!

ohhhh, please..... this is a fishing newsgroup, not a loony political rant
soapbox....



I guess it serves the London people right though for electing and
then re-electing a commie.

**** 'em....

Please keep your political ramblings for those newsgroups where it
is welcomed. Not here.

To get back to the topic....

To fish for freshwater fish anywhere in England or Wales you need a rod
licence from the EA. Available at Post Offices or online.

The basic licence allows you to fish for coarse fish with up to 2 rods,
but only one rod for trout and char. You may not fish for salmon or
sea trout on this licence, even if you do not intend to keep them. If
you catch such a fish accidentally, you are required to return it to the
water in as fine a state as possible.


If you wish to fish for sea trout or salmon, you need to pay more for a
'migratory' licence - which also covers the above.

Salmon and sea trout *are* indigenous to the UK - but are migratory.
Rainbow trout (and other variants, excluding browns) are not.

Once you have your EA licence (think of it as a gun licence) - you still
need permission of the owner to fish any water, be it lake or river.
This usually means buying a licence to fish - afaik, there is no 'free'
fishing to be had in England/Wales.

As for open / closed seasons: if the fishery is a private pond, stocked
with rainbow trout, you can fish it all year round, subject to the
conditions laid down by the owner. However, any waters holding brown trout
have a closed season which usually stretches from the end of September to
mid-March - although exact dates may vary depending upon the location.

The open season for sea trout and salmon may be different, again depending
upon the location - but any salmon caught before June 16 MUST be returned.

As for the cost of these licences..hmm.... well, nobody likes paying out -
but given the dosh that people spend on their interests these days, I
personally don't think that it's too bad for a year's sport. (heads for
cover...)


hth,

Dave



--

.... Street Fighter II. Four disk game of ultimate boredom.

In article , John
writes
Hi Bill.

So technically you can still fish for them but not eat them with the
cheaper license? That's good. I don't really like the taste of Salmon
or Trout anyway and would release back. I love game fishing though.

Is the Salmon and Sea Trout license just for people who take home the
fish to eat?

Read what I said below about June 16th regarding the taking of SALMON.

Salon and sea Trout License allows you to fish for the said fish at the
appropriate time of the year with rod and line. Youcan take them honme
and eat them if you wish except for Salmon which must be returned
unharmed if caught before 16 June in England and Wales.



Is this the only license I need to fish anywhere in the country except
for private grounds?

You need a license to fish with rod and line full stop (The except
private grounds doesn't come into it)

You need a licence to fish with rod and line whether the fishing is
public or private. Most fishing is private be it club water private
individual or stillwater.

Again I say read what I have written!

I would still need to pay extra to fish on some private grounds
wouldn't I?

It depends on the owner if the fishing rights. You'd be damn lucky to
find decent free fishing.

If I have two fishing rods, does this mean I can only use one at a
time?

A licence states you may fish with rod and line not two rods and lines.

Okay. Could I have two rods with me though and just be using one at a
time? It's not really clear I don't think?

I don't see why you can't fish with two rods provided you have two
licences. Some reservoir fishermen like to have two rods set up one for
nymph or lure and the other for dry fly . they may or may not be allowed
to have two rods assembled at the same time though.

And finally just one more question. Is there a certain time of year
when I can't fish anywhere, on any waters? If so when is it? Or does
it vary in different places? How would I find out that info?

The licence will give you the information.

You may not fish for indigenous fish during the close season. Rainbow

When is close season? I take it indigenous means Brown and Wild Trout
as far as game goes? Sea Trout and Salmon, can't really be classed
indigenous can they?

Salmon and sea trout certainly are indigenous - they are born in this
country!

Your license will tell you this.

As far as the prices go. Surely such a high price for the game
fishing is a very bad idea. It would surely just encourage people to
go out and kill loads of fish and sell them to recoup some cost of the
license?

It does happen!

John

Regards,
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

In article , John
writes
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:01:06 +0100, A strange species called "Keith.M"
wrote:

Hi All
Just bought my licence and it has the words "Duty Paid" upon it.
Licence my ass
Its a tax.
No more, no less.
Keith M

As with everything these days especially under Labour government :(

Look at Ken Livingstone! Communist, Racist, Terror Supporter, Labour
Party Member and Lord Mayor of London!

Has the bright idea to put the congestion tax up to £8 (a 60%
increase) because "he believes it will reduce congestion". He doesn't
believe that at all. He knows it wont, it will just generate more
money for his office and penalise decent people. I guess it serves
the London people right though for electing and then re-electing a
commie.

John


We are prepare to answer fishing questions to help newcomers to the
sport, so **** off with your politics
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, W. D. Grey, gave forth these words of wisdom:
Look at Ken Livingstone! Communist, Racist, Terror Supporter, Labour
Party Member and Lord Mayor of London!

We are prepare to answer fishing questions to help newcomers to the
sport, so **** off with your politics
Well said Bill, and anyway, what's wrong with being a game fisherman AND
a commie? :-)
(There I go again opening my big mouth!)
:-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
Cheers,
Alec
--
Alec and Valerie Powell Watlington Oxon. UK

Web Pages:
http://www.prole.demon.co.uk/

In article , Alec Powell
writes
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, W. D. Grey, gave forth these words of wisdom:
Look at Ken Livingstone! Communist, Racist, Terror Supporter, Labour
Party Member and Lord Mayor of London!

We are prepare to answer fishing questions to help newcomers to the
sport, so **** off with your politics
Well said Bill, and anyway, what's wrong with being a game fisherman
AND a commie? :-)
(There I go again opening my big mouth!)
:-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
Cheers,
Alec

From each according to his ability and to each according to his needs
eh?

I never got any of Dave's single trout last year !

To vindicate Dave, I didn't accept the offer :-)
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

Hi All
Seems like I stirred up a bit of life here.
This is not a political rant - it is something which adversly affects most
of us and therefor is as important to us as the types of hook, lines, rods
etc. etc. which are the subjects of most of the postings in this NG

I'm in my 60s and have had a licence each year since I started fishing at
the age of 9 and I still have them all.and to date never have I been asked
to produce it for inspection.
I am also a member of a private syndicate with our own fly waters including
a chalk stream with both native and stocked browns.
My point about the licence was to point out that we are taxed on our sport,
and in paying the tax we are allowed to fish.
We and I suspect most private fisheries both coarse and trout get no help
whatsoever from the EA when our once clean waters having become polluted
with agricultural nitrate fertilise on the run off and ground water become
clogged with all sorts of prol;ific and pesistant weed growth.
We have to pay for counter measures ans remedial work our-selves.

I also shoot and of course I have and have to have a gun licence which is
understandably difficult to obtain.
There is no way that your correspondent can liken a fishing licence and
hence fishing rods to a gun licence and hence guns - the gun licence is an
absolute necessity.

There are over a million anglers in this country.

Collectively we therefor have power - its just that the various leaders of
the national angling bodies do not flex their (our) muscle.

Tight lines and depleted wallets

Keith M






"W. D. Grey" wrote in message
...
In article , Alec Powell
writes
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, W. D. Grey, gave forth these words of wisdom:
Look at Ken Livingstone! Communist, Racist, Terror Supporter, Labour
Party Member and Lord Mayor of London!

We are prepare to answer fishing questions to help newcomers to the
sport, so **** off with your politics
Well said Bill, and anyway, what's wrong with being a game fisherman AND a
commie? :-)
(There I go again opening my big mouth!)
:-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
Cheers,
Alec

From each according to his ability and to each according to his needs eh?

I never got any of Dave's single trout last year !

To vindicate Dave, I didn't accept the offer :-)
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

Look on the bright side.

By buying online you didn't pay any duty on the petrol you would have used
driving to a Post Office now that you can't buy a Licence in a tackle shop.

Mark

"Keith.M" wrote in message
...
Hi All
Seems like I stirred up a bit of life here.
This is not a political rant - it is something which adversly affects most
of us and therefor is as important to us as the types of hook, lines, rods
etc. etc. which are the subjects of most of the postings in this NG

I'm in my 60s and have had a licence each year since I started fishing at
the age of 9 and I still have them all.and to date never have I been
asked to produce it for inspection.
I am also a member of a private syndicate with our own fly waters
including a chalk stream with both native and stocked browns.
My point about the licence was to point out that we are taxed on our
sport, and in paying the tax we are allowed to fish.
We and I suspect most private fisheries both coarse and trout get no help
whatsoever from the EA when our once clean waters having become polluted
with agricultural nitrate fertilise on the run off and ground water become
clogged with all sorts of prol;ific and pesistant weed growth.
We have to pay for counter measures ans remedial work our-selves.

I also shoot and of course I have and have to have a gun licence which is
understandably difficult to obtain.
There is no way that your correspondent can liken a fishing licence and
hence fishing rods to a gun licence and hence guns - the gun licence is an
absolute necessity.

There are over a million anglers in this country.

Collectively we therefor have power - its just that the various leaders of
the national angling bodies do not flex their (our) muscle.

Tight lines and depleted wallets

Keith M






"W. D. Grey" wrote in message
...
In article , Alec Powell
writes
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, W. D. Grey, gave forth these words of wisdom:
Look at Ken Livingstone! Communist, Racist, Terror Supporter, Labour
Party Member and Lord Mayor of London!

We are prepare to answer fishing questions to help newcomers to the
sport, so **** off with your politics
Well said Bill, and anyway, what's wrong with being a game fisherman AND
a commie? :-)
(There I go again opening my big mouth!)
:-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
Cheers,
Alec

From each according to his ability and to each according to his needs eh?

I never got any of Dave's single trout last year !

To vindicate Dave, I didn't accept the offer :-)
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

In article , Keith.M
writes
Hi All
Seems like I stirred up a bit of life here.
This is not a political rant - it is something which adversly affects most
of us and therefor is as important to us as the types of hook, lines, rods
etc. etc. which are the subjects of most of the postings in this NG

I'm in my 60s and have had a licence each year since I started fishing at
the age of 9 and I still have them all.and to date never have I been asked
to produce it for inspection.
I am also a member of a private syndicate with our own fly waters including
a chalk stream with both native and stocked browns.
My point about the licence was to point out that we are taxed on our sport,
and in paying the tax we are allowed to fish.
We and I suspect most private fisheries both coarse and trout get no help
whatsoever from the EA when our once clean waters having become polluted
with agricultural nitrate fertilise on the run off and ground water become
clogged with all sorts of prol;ific and pesistant weed growth.
We have to pay for counter measures ans remedial work our-selves.

I also shoot and of course I have and have to have a gun licence which is
understandably difficult to obtain.
There is no way that your correspondent can liken a fishing licence and
hence fishing rods to a gun licence and hence guns - the gun licence is an
absolute necessity.

There are over a million anglers in this country.

Collectively we therefor have power - its just that the various leaders of
the national angling bodies do not flex their (our) muscle.

Tight lines and depleted wallets

Keith M



Your second line says "This is not a political rant -"

If not, what is it?.....Don't answer, We don't want another tirade.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

Sorry for offending everyone so so much with my reply to Keith.

Yes it did go slightly off topic. That's not to say that politics can
not be on topic with the subject of fishing! I am amazed by how high
the license price is since I last went Fishing in the late 80's early
90's.

And, when you are considering the price of the full license for game
fishing, then if I want I will slag off the EA and the Labour
government, and anyone else I see fit! There's no need to be so
uptight about it. You're like a bunch of old women! Get a life, its
not that big a deal.

So again, sorry for offending all the commies and nitpicking girly-men
in here (cue Bill and Alec). But I have a problem with the EA and the
government and the price of fish(ing). If you want though you can sit
back and let the prices skyrocket while you netcop the newsgroup!

I wonder if netcops ban talk of politics in the uk.rec.fishing.sea NG
after all they've suffered in the last few decades???

By the way, I sent an email to the EA a few days back. I think they
are still digesting the 25 questions I asked them. I'll let you know
their answers when they reply.

Of course I will have to leave out the following:

09) Aren't both the licenses just a tax against people who want to
have enjoyment? It is almost three times more expensive for the
migratory license.

16) Who was responsible for the setting up of the EA? The last time I
went fishing I think it was called the NRA or something?

22) How much percentage of the license money goes back into improving
the waterways in relation to fishing?

25) What does the Environment Agency do to fight stupid people who say
that fishing hurts fish and it should be banned?

In fact I may need to leave out a lot of the questions, they all are
relative to politics in some way. In fact the Environment Agency
itself is an institution of government, and relates to local and
national politics, so perhaps anything to do with the EA should be
classed political and banned by the Nannies of this NG! It will
offend the two grumpy old men in here! You've seen those ads on TV
haven't you? The "Don't Do Politics!" Ads! That's Bill and Alec! :)

John

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, John, gave forth these words of wisdom:
nitpicking girly-men in here (cue Bill and Alec).
I object most strongly to this!
I'll have you know that Bill happens to be one of the most helpful and
friendly fishermen that you could ever hope to meet. He wouldn't dream
of having any left wing tendencies and WHAT WE WEAR UNDER OUR WADERS IS
NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!
Girly-men indeed!
Now **** off and read your Daily Mail like a good little fascist.
Lets get back to what we are really here for. Early reports anyone?
Alec
--
Alec Powell Watlington Oxon. UK

In article , John
writes
It will
offend the two grumpy old men in here! You've seen those ads on TV
haven't you? The "Don't Do Politics!" Ads! That's Bill and Alec! :)

Ha!-Ha! - We're not really, just flexing out writing fingers.


Come to think of it "Two grumpy old men" just about sums us up :-)
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:39:50 +0100, John wrote:

Sorry for offending everyone so so much with my reply to Keith.

Yes it did go slightly off topic. That's not to say that politics can
not be on topic with the subject of fishing! I am amazed by how high
the license price is since I last went Fishing in the late 80's early
90'


In fact for anyone like me who regularly fishes in different parts of
the country the rod license cost is actually a lot cheaper than it
used to be. In days of yore you needed a rod license for each water
authority area. Now you just need one for the whole of England.

"John" wrote in message
...
Sorry for offending everyone so so much with my reply to Keith.

Yes it did go slightly off topic. That's not to say that politics can
not be on topic with the subject of fishing! I am amazed by how high
the license price is since I last went Fishing in the late 80's early
90's.

And, when you are considering the price of the full license for game
fishing, then if I want I will slag off the EA and the Labour
government, and anyone else I see fit! There's no need to be so
uptight about it. You're like a bunch of old women! Get a life, its
not that big a deal.

So again, sorry for offending all the commies and nitpicking girly-men
in here (cue Bill and Alec). But I have a problem with the EA and the
government and the price of fish(ing). If you want though you can sit
back and let the prices skyrocket while you netcop the newsgroup!

I wonder if netcops ban talk of politics in the uk.rec.fishing.sea NG
after all they've suffered in the last few decades???

By the way, I sent an email to the EA a few days back. I think they
are still digesting the 25 questions I asked them. I'll let you know
their answers when they reply.

Of course I will have to leave out the following:

09) Aren't both the licenses just a tax against people who want to
have enjoyment? It is almost three times more expensive for the
migratory license.


16) Who was responsible for the setting up of the EA? The last time I
went fishing I think it was called the NRA or something?

22) How much percentage of the license money goes back into improving
the waterways in relation to fishing?

25) What does the Environment Agency do to fight stupid people who say
that fishing hurts fish and it should be banned?

The EA was established by the Environment Act 1995 ( Conservative
Government) it has a statutory duty to maintain and improve freshwater
fisheries, this is financed by rod licences. A very high proportion of this
revenue is spent on salmon ( I believe).Coarse anglers are in the majority,
most coarse anglers never fish for migratory salmonids.
Antis are a matter of politics not the EA

In message
John wrote:

Sorry for offending everyone so so much with my reply to Keith.


Shame to spoil the apology with yet more cobblers...


Yes it did go slightly off topic.

Just a tad...


[snip]

There's no need to be so uptight about it.

uptight? us? er...


So again, sorry for offending all the commies and nitpicking girly-men
in here (cue Bill and Alec). But I have a problem with the EA and the
government and the price of fish(ing). If you want though you can sit
back and let the prices skyrocket while you netcop the newsgroup!


Discussing the merits of the licence fee and the EA is all fair enough,
but cut and paste jobs from the Daily Rail probably belong
in the uk.alt.politics.barking_green_streamers newsgroup.


By the way, I sent an email to the EA a few days back. I think they
are still digesting the 25 questions I asked them. I'll let you know
their answers when they reply.

They've probably got it pinned up for everyone to have a jolly good
larf at.

[snip]

16) Who was responsible for the setting up of the EA?

ah, now, it might just have been the Conservatives...


22) How much percentage of the license money goes back into improving
the waterways in relation to fishing?


no idea - but around here they employ baliffs to try and keep the
poachers down, chase up polluters, carry out conservation work,
monitor fish and other wildlife population etc etc

In fact I may need to leave out a lot of the questions,

I think we're all in agreement there.

offend the two grumpy old men in here! You've seen those ads on TV
haven't you? The "Don't Do Politics!" Ads! That's Bill and Alec! :)


Bloody hell, at last, you got one right. phew.



cheers,

Dave


--

.... Don't believe in astrology. We Scorpios aren't taken in by such things.

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Dave Lane, gave forth these words of wisdom:
offend the two grumpy old men in here! You've seen those ads on TV
haven't you? The "Don't Do Politics!" Ads! That's Bill and Alec! :)


Bloody hell, at last, you got one right. phew.
You sod! Well, I'm certainly not sharing a boat with you at Brenig.
Diamonds! It's you and me again mate :-)
--
Alec and Valerie Powell Watlington Oxon. UK

Web Pages:
http://www.prole.demon.co.uk/

Wasn't it Alec Powell who wrote?

Snip underwear preferences and political rant

Lets get back to what we are really here for. Early reports anyone?
Alec

I had two stockie Rainbows at Darlow last Sunday afternoon. Missed a lot of
takes though.

--
Andy Lawson

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:08:53 +0100, Alec Powell
wrote:

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, John, gave forth these words of wisdom:
nitpicking girly-men in here (cue Bill and Alec).
I object most strongly to this!
I'll have you know that Bill happens to be one of the most helpful and
friendly fishermen that you could ever hope to meet. He wouldn't dream
of having any left wing tendencies and WHAT WE WEAR UNDER OUR WADERS IS
NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!
Girly-men indeed!
Now **** off and read your Daily Mail like a good little fascist.
Lets get back to what we are really here for. Early reports anyone?
Alec


Stocks res still fishing its nuts off.........
Keith