Heavy Heavy Flipping Baits ???
 

I recently tried to throw a 3/4 oz bullet weight with a huge magnum size
plastic. My St Croix flippng stick was not up to the task. I tried a
variety of settings ont he reel, and just couldn't get it to work well.
Either I couldn't pitch it (just flip it) or it would slap the water ont he
way out. I figured it was strictly my inability to dial in the reel, but
when I got home I tied a similar rig on my Tica TC3 flipping stick and I was
able to pitch it. Not as easily as a lighter bait, but it could be dialed
in to pitch without short pitching or smacking the water every cast.

My TC3 is an 8 ft heavy action rod. Same line and reel on both rods.
Quantum Accurist with 50LB Power Pro.

I rarely fish a weight that heavy or a bait that big, but there are times
when I want a huge heavy bait to punch through cover in muddy conditions etc
etc... What type of rig do you use?

Bob La Londe
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Bob, can you describe the fishing scenario that called for the huge bait &
heavy sinker? Did you get bit?

ww

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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I recently tried to throw a 3/4 oz bullet weight with a huge magnum size
plastic. My St Croix flippng stick was not up to the task. I tried a
variety of settings ont he reel, and just couldn't get it to work well.
Either I couldn't pitch it (just flip it) or it would slap the water ont
he
way out. I figured it was strictly my inability to dial in the reel, but
when I got home I tied a similar rig on my Tica TC3 flipping stick and I
was
able to pitch it. Not as easily as a lighter bait, but it could be dialed
in to pitch without short pitching or smacking the water every cast.

My TC3 is an 8 ft heavy action rod. Same line and reel on both rods.
Quantum Accurist with 50LB Power Pro.

I rarely fish a weight that heavy or a bait that big, but there are times
when I want a huge heavy bait to punch through cover in muddy conditions
etc
etc... What type of rig do you use?

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com
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Member Tournament

Fishing thick matted hydrilla is first cause for extra heavy baits, line and
rods. Twenty feet of grass with a six foot mat takes a lot of lead to punch
through.

Waterloo makes their "grass rake" rod, with roller tip for braided line,
it's quite impressive when you go to the heavy artillery.

"gobassn" wrote in message
...
Bob, can you describe the fishing scenario that called for the huge bait &
heavy sinker? Did you get bit?

ww

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
I recently tried to throw a 3/4 oz bullet weight with a huge magnum size
plastic. My St Croix flippng stick was not up to the task. I tried a
variety of settings ont he reel, and just couldn't get it to work well.
Either I couldn't pitch it (just flip it) or it would slap the water ont
he
way out. I figured it was strictly my inability to dial in the reel,
but
when I got home I tied a similar rig on my Tica TC3 flipping stick and I
was
able to pitch it. Not as easily as a lighter bait, but it could be
dialed
in to pitch without short pitching or smacking the water every cast.

My TC3 is an 8 ft heavy action rod. Same line and reel on both rods.
Quantum Accurist with 50LB Power Pro.

I rarely fish a weight that heavy or a bait that big, but there are
times
when I want a huge heavy bait to punch through cover in muddy conditions
etc
etc... What type of rig do you use?

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com
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Free Lures
Member Tournament

I wanted a fast falling bait to punch through cane and floating debris in
muddy water.

Large, loud, heavy.

I couldn't get it to pitch on the rod I had so I gave up on it.

"gobassn" wrote in message
...
Bob, can you describe the fishing scenario that called for the huge bait &
heavy sinker? Did you get bit?

ww

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
I recently tried to throw a 3/4 oz bullet weight with a huge magnum size
plastic. My St Croix flippng stick was not up to the task. I tried a
variety of settings ont he reel, and just couldn't get it to work well.
Either I couldn't pitch it (just flip it) or it would slap the water ont
he
way out. I figured it was strictly my inability to dial in the reel,
but
when I got home I tied a similar rig on my Tica TC3 flipping stick and I
was
able to pitch it. Not as easily as a lighter bait, but it could be
dialed
in to pitch without short pitching or smacking the water every cast.

My TC3 is an 8 ft heavy action rod. Same line and reel on both rods.
Quantum Accurist with 50LB Power Pro.

I rarely fish a weight that heavy or a bait that big, but there are
times
when I want a huge heavy bait to punch through cover in muddy conditions
etc
etc... What type of rig do you use?

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com
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Free Lures
Member Tournament

You want to punch through the stuff, but a pitch is a soft, quiet
presentation. I'm confused.

WW

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
I wanted a fast falling bait to punch through cane and floating debris in
muddy water.

Large, loud, heavy.

I couldn't get it to pitch on the rod I had so I gave up on it.

"gobassn" wrote in message
...
Bob, can you describe the fishing scenario that called for the huge bait
&
heavy sinker? Did you get bit?

ww

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
I recently tried to throw a 3/4 oz bullet weight with a huge magnum
size
plastic. My St Croix flippng stick was not up to the task. I tried a
variety of settings ont he reel, and just couldn't get it to work
well.
Either I couldn't pitch it (just flip it) or it would slap the water
ont
he
way out. I figured it was strictly my inability to dial in the reel,
but
when I got home I tied a similar rig on my Tica TC3 flipping stick and
I
was
able to pitch it. Not as easily as a lighter bait, but it could be
dialed
in to pitch without short pitching or smacking the water every cast.

My TC3 is an 8 ft heavy action rod. Same line and reel on both rods.
Quantum Accurist with 50LB Power Pro.

I rarely fish a weight that heavy or a bait that big, but there are
times
when I want a huge heavy bait to punch through cover in muddy
conditions
etc
etc... What type of rig do you use?

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com
Forums
Free Lures
Member Tournament

.."go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You want to punch through the stuff, but a pitch is a soft, quiet
presentation. I'm confused.



Accuracy and moderate distance. Pitching.
Small pockets in cane laying over on water.

Fall or punch through some surface debris without slamming it into the
surface. Weight.


Muddy conditions. Large.
Rattles added for attraction, but loud entries had spooked some fish
already.

Fast falling. Heavy.

I could have done an over hand cast to punch through, but I felt that what I
really wanted was the weight of the bait to take it through.

However, my question was strictly about what tackle would adequately pitch
those big heavy baits. Since the tackle I had with me was not adequate to
the job I really don't know if it would have worked to catch fish. Instead
I tried some other areas and used different baits for a few fish. My two
biggest that day where in locations where I had been able to get through
debris like that without spooking the fish. The edge of the debris produced
nothing. I had to go through it.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

.."go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You want to punch through the stuff, but a pitch is a soft, quiet
presentation. I'm confused.



Accuracy and moderate distance. Pitching.
Small pockets in cane laying over on water.

Fall or punch through some surface debris without slamming it into the
surface. Weight.


Muddy conditions. Large.
Rattles added for attraction, but loud entries had spooked some fish
already.

Fast falling. Heavy.

I could have done an over hand cast to punch through, but I felt that what I
really wanted was the weight of the bait to take it through.

However, my question was strictly about what tackle would adequately pitch
those big heavy baits. Since the tackle I had with me was not adequate to
the job I really don't know if it would have worked to catch fish. Instead
I tried some other areas and used different baits for a few fish. My two
biggest that day where in locations where I had been able to get through
debris like that without spooking the fish. The edge of the debris produced
nothing. I had to go through it.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

Bob La Londe wrote:
."go-bassn" wrote in message
...

You want to punch through the stuff, but a pitch is a soft, quiet
presentation. I'm confused.




Accuracy and moderate distance. Pitching.
Small pockets in cane laying over on water.

Fall or punch through some surface debris without slamming it into the
surface. Weight.


Muddy conditions. Large.
Rattles added for attraction, but loud entries had spooked some fish
already.

Fast falling. Heavy.

I could have done an over hand cast to punch through, but I felt that what I
really wanted was the weight of the bait to take it through.

However, my question was strictly about what tackle would adequately pitch
those big heavy baits. Since the tackle I had with me was not adequate to
the job I really don't know if it would have worked to catch fish. Instead
I tried some other areas and used different baits for a few fish. My two
biggest that day where in locations where I had been able to get through
debris like that without spooking the fish. The edge of the debris produced
nothing. I had to go through it.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com




I've never seen a flipping stick that wouldn't handle 1 oz jigs or slip
sinkers. I don't usually want a really big bait for fishing in the mats,
but I have no problem with 9" worms or 7 inch creature baits and a 1 oz
weight, and I'll use the same setup to flip, pitch and cast as the need
arises.

"RichZ" wrote in message
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Bob La Londe wrote:
."go-bassn" wrote in message
...

You want to punch through the stuff, but a pitch is a soft, quiet
presentation. I'm confused.




Accuracy and moderate distance. Pitching.
Small pockets in cane laying over on water.

Fall or punch through some surface debris without slamming it into the
surface. Weight.


Muddy conditions. Large.
Rattles added for attraction, but loud entries had spooked some fish
already.

Fast falling. Heavy.

I could have done an over hand cast to punch through, but I felt that
what I
really wanted was the weight of the bait to take it through.

However, my question was strictly about what tackle would adequately
pitch
those big heavy baits. Since the tackle I had with me was not adequate
to
the job I really don't know if it would have worked to catch fish.
Instead
I tried some other areas and used different baits for a few fish. My
two
biggest that day where in locations where I had been able to get through
debris like that without spooking the fish. The edge of the debris
produced
nothing. I had to go through it.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com




I've never seen a flipping stick that wouldn't handle 1 oz jigs or slip
sinkers. I don't usually want a really big bait for fishing in the mats,
but I have no problem with 9" worms or 7 inch creature baits and a 1 oz
weight, and I'll use the same setup to flip, pitch and cast as the need
arises.

I'm not sure what the problem was, but I just couldn't handle that big bait
on my St Croix flippig stick. At home when I tried it on my TC3 it worked
fine. The St Croix is a 7'10" MH Fast and the TC3 is an 8' H Fast. The
bait just worked better on the TC3. I have tossed 3/4 oz jigs on the St
Croix with no problem. I expect that big plastic I had on probably was the
difference in weight. Probably a couple ounces of plastic.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

What KIND of plastic? Giant Toob?


"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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"RichZ" wrote in message
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Bob La Londe wrote:
."go-bassn" wrote in message
...

You want to punch through the stuff, but a pitch is a soft, quiet
presentation. I'm confused.




Accuracy and moderate distance. Pitching.
Small pockets in cane laying over on water.

Fall or punch through some surface debris without slamming it into the
surface. Weight.


Muddy conditions. Large.
Rattles added for attraction, but loud entries had spooked some fish
already.

Fast falling. Heavy.

I could have done an over hand cast to punch through, but I felt that
what I
really wanted was the weight of the bait to take it through.

However, my question was strictly about what tackle would adequately
pitch
those big heavy baits. Since the tackle I had with me was not
adequate
to
the job I really don't know if it would have worked to catch fish.
Instead
I tried some other areas and used different baits for a few fish. My
two
biggest that day where in locations where I had been able to get
through
debris like that without spooking the fish. The edge of the debris
produced
nothing. I had to go through it.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com




I've never seen a flipping stick that wouldn't handle 1 oz jigs or slip
sinkers. I don't usually want a really big bait for fishing in the mats,
but I have no problem with 9" worms or 7 inch creature baits and a 1 oz
weight, and I'll use the same setup to flip, pitch and cast as the need
arises.

I'm not sure what the problem was, but I just couldn't handle that big
bait
on my St Croix flippig stick. At home when I tried it on my TC3 it worked
fine. The St Croix is a 7'10" MH Fast and the TC3 is an 8' H Fast. The
bait just worked better on the TC3. I have tossed 3/4 oz jigs on the St
Croix with no problem. I expect that big plastic I had on probably was
the
difference in weight. Probably a couple ounces of plastic.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

A magnum size beaver tail

"go-bassn" wrote in message
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What KIND of plastic? Giant Toob?


"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
."go-bassn" wrote in message
...

You want to punch through the stuff, but a pitch is a soft, quiet
presentation. I'm confused.




Accuracy and moderate distance. Pitching.
Small pockets in cane laying over on water.

Fall or punch through some surface debris without slamming it into
the
surface. Weight.


Muddy conditions. Large.
Rattles added for attraction, but loud entries had spooked some fish
already.

Fast falling. Heavy.

I could have done an over hand cast to punch through, but I felt
that
what I
really wanted was the weight of the bait to take it through.

However, my question was strictly about what tackle would adequately
pitch
those big heavy baits. Since the tackle I had with me was not
adequate
to
the job I really don't know if it would have worked to catch fish.
Instead
I tried some other areas and used different baits for a few fish.
My
two
biggest that day where in locations where I had been able to get
through
debris like that without spooking the fish. The edge of the debris
produced
nothing. I had to go through it.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com




I've never seen a flipping stick that wouldn't handle 1 oz jigs or
slip
sinkers. I don't usually want a really big bait for fishing in the
mats,
but I have no problem with 9" worms or 7 inch creature baits and a 1
oz
weight, and I'll use the same setup to flip, pitch and cast as the
need
arises.

I'm not sure what the problem was, but I just couldn't handle that big
bait
on my St Croix flippig stick. At home when I tried it on my TC3 it
worked
fine. The St Croix is a 7'10" MH Fast and the TC3 is an 8' H Fast. The
bait just worked better on the TC3. I have tossed 3/4 oz jigs on the St
Croix with no problem. I expect that big plastic I had on probably was
the
difference in weight. Probably a couple ounces of plastic.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

Magnum size beaver tail.

P.S. Got any suggestions Warren or are you just grilling me for the fun of
it?


"go-bassn" wrote in message
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What KIND of plastic? Giant Toob?


"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
."go-bassn" wrote in message
...

You want to punch through the stuff, but a pitch is a soft, quiet
presentation. I'm confused.




Accuracy and moderate distance. Pitching.
Small pockets in cane laying over on water.

Fall or punch through some surface debris without slamming it into
the
surface. Weight.


Muddy conditions. Large.
Rattles added for attraction, but loud entries had spooked some fish
already.

Fast falling. Heavy.

I could have done an over hand cast to punch through, but I felt
that
what I
really wanted was the weight of the bait to take it through.

However, my question was strictly about what tackle would adequately
pitch
those big heavy baits. Since the tackle I had with me was not
adequate
to
the job I really don't know if it would have worked to catch fish.
Instead
I tried some other areas and used different baits for a few fish.
My
two
biggest that day where in locations where I had been able to get
through
debris like that without spooking the fish. The edge of the debris
produced
nothing. I had to go through it.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com




I've never seen a flipping stick that wouldn't handle 1 oz jigs or
slip
sinkers. I don't usually want a really big bait for fishing in the
mats,
but I have no problem with 9" worms or 7 inch creature baits and a 1
oz
weight, and I'll use the same setup to flip, pitch and cast as the
need
arises.

I'm not sure what the problem was, but I just couldn't handle that big
bait
on my St Croix flippig stick. At home when I tried it on my TC3 it
worked
fine. The St Croix is a 7'10" MH Fast and the TC3 is an 8' H Fast. The
bait just worked better on the TC3. I have tossed 3/4 oz jigs on the St
Croix with no problem. I expect that big plastic I had on probably was
the
difference in weight. Probably a couple ounces of plastic.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

Bob La Londe wrote:
A magnum size beaver tail

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...

What KIND of plastic? Giant Toob?


"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...

"RichZ" wrote in message
...

Bob La Londe wrote:

."go-bassn" wrote in message
...


You want to punch through the stuff, but a pitch is a soft, quiet
presentation. I'm confused.




Accuracy and moderate distance. Pitching.
Small pockets in cane laying over on water.

Fall or punch through some surface debris without slamming it into

the

surface. Weight.


Muddy conditions. Large.
Rattles added for attraction, but loud entries had spooked some fish
already.

Fast falling. Heavy.

I could have done an over hand cast to punch through, but I felt

that

what I

really wanted was the weight of the bait to take it through.

However, my question was strictly about what tackle would adequately

pitch

those big heavy baits. Since the tackle I had with me was not

adequate

to

the job I really don't know if it would have worked to catch fish.

Instead

I tried some other areas and used different baits for a few fish.

My

two

biggest that day where in locations where I had been able to get

through

debris like that without spooking the fish. The edge of the debris

produced

nothing. I had to go through it.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com





I've never seen a flipping stick that wouldn't handle 1 oz jigs or

slip

sinkers. I don't usually want a really big bait for fishing in the

mats,

but I have no problem with 9" worms or 7 inch creature baits and a 1

oz

weight, and I'll use the same setup to flip, pitch and cast as the

need

arises.

I'm not sure what the problem was, but I just couldn't handle that big

bait

on my St Croix flippig stick. At home when I tried it on my TC3 it

worked

fine. The St Croix is a 7'10" MH Fast and the TC3 is an 8' H Fast. The
bait just worked better on the TC3. I have tossed 3/4 oz jigs on the St
Croix with no problem. I expect that big plastic I had on probably was

the

difference in weight. Probably a couple ounces of plastic.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com






Bob,

I did alright on Boom with a 6" Producto Vibrator worm, not exactly
magnum at 6" , but the paddle tail is pretty large.

Chris