Eye Repair
 

One of the eyes of my casting rod has lost the inner coating (the plastic stuff that protects the line). It is the third eye down from the tip. I have replaced the tip eye before, but this is the first time that I have encountered this problem. The eye is basically ok other than that. I wonder if I replace the coating some how? The rod is a BPS Extreme, which uses Fiji eyes. If try to replace this eye, I will have to remove that plastic wrap that hold the eye. Would that be difficult to do without damaging the rod? Or I could just cut the eye off. Suggestions?

You can use rod varnish or clear exterior varnish to re-coat the guide
(eye) wrapping which is thread.. I would use 3-4 thin coats allowing
ample drying time between coats..

"drwhittaker" wrote in message
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One of the eyes of my casting rod has lost the inner coating (the
plastic stuff that protects the line). It is the third eye down from
the tip. I have replaced the tip eye before, but this is the first
time that I have encountered this problem. The eye is basically ok
other than that. I wonder if I replace the coating some how? The rod
is a BPS Extreme, which uses Fiji eyes. If try to replace this eye, I
will have to remove that plastic wrap that hold the eye. Would that be
difficult to do without damaging the rod? Or I could just cut the eye
off. Suggestions?


Depends on the rod, but those are usually wrapped with thread and then
coated/soaked with resin. Epoxy works ok. On one BPS Bionic Blade the eye
came out on me. I just slid a new one in under the thread and epoxied it in
place. Worked great.

Of course you may want to simply hand it off to somebody else to take care
of. BPS is very liberal with its repair/return policy. If you don't want
to go the time and expense of shipping it back you might check the local
tackle shops for guys who do rod repair or rod building. Often there is
somebody around who is willing to replace an eyelet cheaper than you can
have it done under warranty from the manufacturer. G-Loomis charge $20 and
it takes a while. Same with Lamiglass except its only $14.50. That is on
top of shipping. If you pay local expert 10-20 dollars to do a repair its
done right and you can usually get it back in a couple days.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:59:59 +0000, drwhittaker
wrote:

If try to replace this eye, I
will have to remove that plastic wrap that hold the eye. Would that be
difficult to do without damaging the rod? Or I could just cut the eye
off. Suggestions?

First of all, that's not "plastic wrap"--it's thread which has been
either varnished or epoxied. Secondly, you can probably remove the
guide without cutting the thread by pulling and wiggling it with
pliers, like a dentist pulling a tooth (ouch!).

You can then insert a new guide underneath the thread after coating
the foot with epoxy glue. You can also work some glue beneath the
thread with a toothpick. I've done this several times on BPS
rods--makes 'em good as new!

Hope this helps....





Guy A
Ripley, TN

drwhittaker wrote in
:


One of the eyes of my casting rod has lost the inner coating (the
plastic stuff that protects the line). It is the third eye down from
the tip. I have replaced the tip eye before, but this is the first
time that I have encountered this problem. The eye is basically ok
other than that. I wonder if I replace the coating some how? The rod
is a BPS Extreme, which uses Fiji eyes. If try to replace this eye, I
will have to remove that plastic wrap that hold the eye. Would that be
difficult to do without damaging the rod? Or I could just cut the eye
off. Suggestions?



Is it a single foot guide or a two-foot guide? If its two footed, buy a
guide, filing down any sharp edge on the rod-to-foot transition. Use a
sharp razor blade to cut off the epoxy-coated thread wraps holding the
original guide on, being careful not to damage the blank. Buy some
Gudebrod size A rod thread to match the original wraps. Rewrap the new
guide on-- tack it in place with a little piece of masking tape. There are
probably tons of directions on the internet on how to do this smoothly, and
how to use a loop of thread to pull the end underneath the original wraps.

If you want, put on some color preserver for the thread. Then gently mix
up some epoxy to avoid bubbles, and use a brush to spread the epoxy on.
Rotate the rod a little every 30 seconds or so to avoid drips, slowing down
the rotation until the epoxy is dry. Don't touch the epoxy to figure this
out, unless you want a fingerprint on the rod forever.

Scott

If the guide is not loose just coat the wrap with varnish, color
preservative should be not necessary because it was applied before..

Scott Seidman wrote in
. 1.4:

here are
probably tons of directions on the internet on how to do this
smoothly, and how to use a loop of thread to pull the end underneath
the original wraps.



http://www.flyanglersonline.com/begi...te/part10.html

Scott

You guys are all missing the boat here. The guy has lost the ceramic
interior of the guide, not a wrap-problem.

As far as I know he needs to replace the eye itself, exactly the practice
that I plan on learning shortly.

Warren


--
http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"AJH" wrote in message
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If the guide is not loose just coat the wrap with varnish, color
preservative should be not necessary because it was applied before..

Actually it's not clear if the ceramic guide insert is gone or the
wrapping has lost it's coating, if the ceramic insert is gone the guide
needs to be replaced..

Ahh... don't make too big of a deal of replacing your guide(s) Warren. I
just did one on one of my spinning rods yesterday. I'm not really picky
about how they look, as long as they're functional. All in all, I think it
came out fairly well.


"gobassn" wrote in message
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You guys are all missing the boat here. The guy has lost the ceramic
interior of the guide, not a wrap-problem.

As far as I know he needs to replace the eye itself, exactly the practice
that I plan on learning shortly.

Warren


--
http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"AJH" wrote in message
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If the guide is not loose just coat the wrap with varnish, color
preservative should be not necessary because it was applied before..

And most tackle shops will replace it for about $10 plus cost of guide.

"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
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Ahh... don't make too big of a deal of replacing your guide(s) Warren. I
just did one on one of my spinning rods yesterday. I'm not really picky
about how they look, as long as they're functional. All in all, I think it
came out fairly well.


"gobassn" wrote in message
...
You guys are all missing the boat here. The guy has lost the ceramic
interior of the guide, not a wrap-problem.

As far as I know he needs to replace the eye itself, exactly the practice
that I plan on learning shortly.

Warren


--
http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"AJH" wrote in message
...
If the guide is not loose just coat the wrap with varnish, color
preservative should be not necessary because it was applied before..

"gobassn" wrote in
:

You guys are all missing the boat here. The guy has lost the ceramic
interior of the guide, not a wrap-problem.

As far as I know he needs to replace the eye itself, exactly the
practice that I plan on learning shortly.

Warren



That's exactly what I'm talking about. If the ceramic insert fell out of
the guide, it needs to be replaced. You can try to do this without
rewrapping, but the repair won't be as reliable as doing it the right way.

I guess the problem is I don't know what an "eye" is.

Scott

"drwhittaker" wrote in message
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One of the eyes of my casting rod has lost the inner coating (the
plastic stuff that protects the line). It is the third eye down from
the tip. I have replaced the tip eye before, but this is the first
time that I have encountered this problem. The eye is basically ok
other than that. I wonder if I replace the coating some how? The rod
is a BPS Extreme, which uses Fiji eyes. If try to replace this eye, I
will have to remove that plastic wrap that hold the eye. Would that be
difficult to do without damaging the rod? Or I could just cut the eye
off. Suggestions?

A rod guide is comprised of two components, the wire frame and the insert
(which can be many different materials, ceramic, silicone carbide, cermet,
etc.). I'm not exactly sure what you have for a problem.

Many guides have an acrylic coating over the actual insert and frame to help
bond the insert to the frame. If this coating is coming off, creating a
rough spot, you might be able to pick the rest of the coating off the
bearing surface of the guide insert and you should be all right.

If the actual eye insert came out, sometimes they can be popped back in and
secured with a dab or two of Super Glue.

If the insert is missing totally, you're screwed and the guide will have to
be replaced. Yes, then the epoxy coating over the thread wraps will have to
be carefully cut off and removed from the rod.

There's no reason why you can't do this yourself, but most people prefer to
have it done. Check with several local bait/tackle shops and they should be
able to either refer you to someone that can make the repair, or they'll act
as a drop point.

Hopefully this helps.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

You need a new guide. This job is simple for a rod builder and very complex
for a novice, in fact you can easily ruin the blank if you are not careful
when removing the bad guide. Find a rod builder.


"drwhittaker" wrote in message
.. .

One of the eyes of my casting rod has lost the inner coating (the
plastic stuff that protects the line). It is the third eye down from
the tip. I have replaced the tip eye before, but this is the first
time that I have encountered this problem. The eye is basically ok
other than that. I wonder if I replace the coating some how? The rod
is a BPS Extreme, which uses Fiji eyes. If try to replace this eye, I
will have to remove that plastic wrap that hold the eye. Would that be
difficult to do without damaging the rod? Or I could just cut the eye
off. Suggestions?


--
drwhittaker