OT ground nesting woodies?
 

I just came in from walking a young pup. I intended to swim him a bit in a
pond out back, but as we approached it I saw the grass moving and a bird,
head lowered, slinking off. I assumed "Mallard nest" but lo and behold it
was a hen Wood Duck.

Since the pup can't be trusted to obey me yet, I came back without
further investigation, and, I don't want to bother her again today if
she is trying to nest. But, I always thought Woodies nested in hollow trees
or DU project boxes, by definition. Anyone know if they are also known to
ground nest? If I have a true rarity here I might try for photos.

"Larry L" wrote in message
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.. Anyone know if they are also known to
ground nest? If I have a true rarity here I might try for photos.

They can be trained to ground nest. Just be sure the e-collar fits correctly
and doesn't get caught in the reeds and weeds.

Danl

Danl wrote:
"Larry L" wrote:
[snip]
. Anyone know if they are also known to
ground nest? If I have a true rarity here I might try for photos.

They can be trained to ground nest. Just be sure the e-collar fits correctly
and doesn't get caught in the reeds and weeds.

Forget the e-collar, Wood Ducks, like most breathing beings,
love Budweiser. They can be trained to ground nest with less
than a six-pack in the hands of a good trainer. Remember,
positive reinforcement is always a better training method
than negative reinforcement.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Larry L" wrote in message
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I just came in from walking a young pup. I intended to swim him a bit in
a
pond out back, but as we approached it I saw the grass moving and a bird,
head lowered, slinking off. I assumed "Mallard nest" but lo and behold
it
was a hen Wood Duck.

Since the pup can't be trusted to obey me yet, I came back without
further investigation, and, I don't want to bother her again today if
she is trying to nest. But, I always thought Woodies nested in hollow
trees
or DU project boxes, by definition. Anyone know if they are also known
to
ground nest? If I have a true rarity here I might try for photos.

Don't know for sure, but the near demise of woodies was reputed to be
closely related to their intransigence with regard to ground nesting.
Conversely, their spectacular comeback is attributed in large part to the
efforts of various conservation minded organizations and individuals in
putting out nest boxes for them.

Personally, I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume that a duck seen on
the ground is necessarily nesting there.

Wolfgang
who, in the past few weeks, has seen numerous woo.......um......well, never
mind. :(

"Wolfgang" wrote


Personally, I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume that a duck seen on
the ground is necessarily nesting there.



agreed, and I'll go back and see if I can find a nest and eggs, but don't
want to bother her too often, so I didn't go back today She likely was
just snoozing in the sun ... we're not far from the river and many natural
and manmade Woodie homes I was just curious if it was a known
possibility I did see a pair here a couple days ago but didn't think
anything about it

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

Wood Ducks, like most breathing beings,
love Budweiser.


I bet if I filled the pond with Bud I'd have a lot of ground nesting beasts
out there ...... wonder if F&G would call that baiting? G

"Larry L" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote


Personally, I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume that a duck seen on
the ground is necessarily nesting there.



agreed, and I'll go back and see if I can find a nest and eggs, but don't
want to bother her too often, so I didn't go back today She likely was
just snoozing in the sun ... we're not far from the river and many natural
and manmade Woodie homes I was just curious if it was a known
possibility I did see a pair here a couple days ago but didn't think
anything about it

I'd bet a million shiny new nickels on the possibility.......but I wouldn't
go back to check.

Wolfgang
who reserves the right to choose how much to reveal about his breeding
habits.

Wolfgang wrote:

"Larry L" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote


Personally, I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume that a duck seen on
the ground is necessarily nesting there.



agreed, and I'll go back and see if I can find a nest and eggs, but don't
want to bother her too often, so I didn't go back today She likely was
just snoozing in the sun ... we're not far from the river and many natural
and manmade Woodie homes I was just curious if it was a known
possibility I did see a pair here a couple days ago but didn't think
anything about it


I'd bet a million shiny new nickels on the possibility.......but I wouldn't
go back to check.

Don't take the bet, Larry, because Wolfgang never pays off, even when
he's conclusively proven wrong.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Larry L wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

Wood Ducks, like most breathing beings,
love Budweiser.


I bet if I filled the pond with Bud I'd have a lot of ground nesting
beasts out there ...... wonder if F&G would call that baiting? G

More likely chemical dumping. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

"rw" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

"Larry L" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote


Personally, I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume that a duck seen
on the ground is necessarily nesting there.



agreed, and I'll go back and see if I can find a nest and eggs, but don't
want to bother her too often, so I didn't go back today She likely was
just snoozing in the sun ... we're not far from the river and many
natural and manmade Woodie homes I was just curious if it was a known
possibility I did see a pair here a couple days ago but didn't think
anything about it


I'd bet a million shiny new nickels on the possibility.......but I
wouldn't go back to check.

Don't take the bet, Larry, because Wolfgang never pays off, even when he's
conclusively proven wrong.

DANG! I almost had him! :(

Wolfgang

On Wed, 4 May 2005 14:18:47 -0700, "David Snedeker"
wrote:

We are about to head down to Chaco to see stuff, (Casa Bonito etc) and paint
a bit. Also some of the Pueblos. Any suggestions on "should not miss" stuff
of the visual persuasion?

For ruins Hovenweep is nice and has a visitor center like Chaco. Canyon of the
Ancients is cool too and undeveloped - go over to Dolores to the Anasazi
Heritage Center for information on it.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

"rw" wrote in message
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Don't take the bet, Larry, because Wolfgang never pays off, even when
he's conclusively proven wrong.


No ****, he's a total welsher. It's over a year since he said he was
raising money to buy me a puppy. OK, the guy hates my guts, but I figure he
can't be all bad if he's going to buy me a puppy. So I put my order in for a
Golden, suggested Willi's, and then . . . zip. Pretends he never said it.
Wolfgangs like a slot in an Elko gas station; He never pays off. :-)

On another note. . . .
We are about to head down to Chaco to see stuff, (Casa Bonito etc) and paint
a bit. Also some of the Pueblos. Any suggestions on "should not miss" stuff
of the visual persuasion?

Dave

David Snedeker wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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Don't take the bet, Larry, because Wolfgang never pays off, even when
he's conclusively proven wrong.



No ****, he's a total welsher. It's over a year since he said he was
raising money to buy me a puppy. OK, the guy hates my guts, but I figure he
can't be all bad if he's going to buy me a puppy. So I put my order in for a
Golden, suggested Willi's, and then . . . zip. Pretends he never said it.
Wolfgangs like a slot in an Elko gas station; He never pays off. :-)

He still owes me a shiny new nickel because I proved he was full of ****
about Chas's method for measuring the width of tippet. I even gave him
my mailing address.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"David Snedeker" wrote in message
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"rw" wrote in message
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Don't take the bet, Larry, because Wolfgang never pays off, even when
he's conclusively proven wrong.


No ****, he's a total welsher. It's over a year since he said he was
raising money to buy me a puppy. OK, the guy hates my guts, but I figure
he
can't be all bad if he's going to buy me a puppy. So I put my order in for
a
Golden, suggested Willi's, and then . . . zip. Pretends he never said it.
Wolfgangs like a slot in an Elko gas station; He never pays off. :-)

:)

On another note. . . .
We are about to head down to Chaco to see stuff, (Casa Bonito etc) and
paint
a bit. Also some of the Pueblos. Any suggestions on "should not miss"
stuff...

A pharmacist? A naked woman? Idaho? A shotgun dealer?

Wolfgang
who would take the time to be more helpful were it not for the recent
revelation that he has........sob!........ANCESTORS!

"rw" wrote in message
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David Snedeker wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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Don't take the bet, Larry, because Wolfgang never pays off, even when
he's conclusively proven wrong.



No ****, he's a total welsher. It's over a year since he said he was
raising money to buy me a puppy. OK, the guy hates my guts, but I figure
he
can't be all bad if he's going to buy me a puppy. So I put my order in
for a
Golden, suggested Willi's, and then . . . zip. Pretends he never said
it.
Wolfgangs like a slot in an Elko gas station; He never pays off. :-)

He still owes me a shiny new nickel because I proved he was full of ****
about Chas's method for measuring the width of tippet. I even gave him my
mailing address.

I lost it........got distracted by a teenage girl. Post it
here.......please. :)

Wolfgang

"David Snedeker" wrote in message
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"rw" wrote in message
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David Snedeker wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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Don't take the bet, Larry, because Wolfgang never pays off, even when
he's conclusively proven wrong.



No ****, he's a total welsher. It's over a year since he said he was
raising money to buy me a puppy. OK, the guy hates my guts, but I
figure
he
can't be all bad if he's going to buy me a puppy. So I put my order in
for a
Golden, suggested Willi's, and then . . . zip. Pretends he never said
it.
Wolfgangs like a slot in an Elko gas station; He never pays off. :-)

He still owes me a shiny new nickel because I proved he was full of ****
about Chas's method for measuring the width of tippet. I even gave him
my mailing address.

Exactly my point. All this "shiny new nickel" this, and "shiny new nickel"
that. Blah, blah, blah. Its always the same bet. Then he loses and where
is
the "shiny new nickel?" NOWHERE, thats where. Im starting to think
"Wolfgang" and Vern might be the same guy. Same rationales. Walks like a
duck . . . . Has anyone actually seen the two of them together? Funny
thing
. . . "Vern" disappears and who is left? "Wolf(Vern)gang." And the "shiny
new nickel" business. Then there is this bit about dogs. And as I recall
"Vern" had his own interesting take on dogs too. Some people have said
they
have seen him, but has anyone actually checked his ID? You know that in
German, "W" is pronounced like an English "V." See where this leads?
Exactly.

For those who like watching you two rub each other's pee-pees, that's just
the sort of thing they like.

Wolfgang
with (not all that sincere) apologies to mr. lincoln. :)

"rw" wrote in message
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David Snedeker wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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Don't take the bet, Larry, because Wolfgang never pays off, even when
he's conclusively proven wrong.



No ****, he's a total welsher. It's over a year since he said he was
raising money to buy me a puppy. OK, the guy hates my guts, but I figure
he
can't be all bad if he's going to buy me a puppy. So I put my order in
for a
Golden, suggested Willi's, and then . . . zip. Pretends he never said
it.
Wolfgangs like a slot in an Elko gas station; He never pays off. :-)

He still owes me a shiny new nickel because I proved he was full of ****
about Chas's method for measuring the width of tippet. I even gave him
my mailing address.

Exactly my point. All this "shiny new nickel" this, and "shiny new nickel"
that. Blah, blah, blah. Its always the same bet. Then he loses and where is
the "shiny new nickel?" NOWHERE, thats where. Im starting to think
"Wolfgang" and Vern might be the same guy. Same rationales. Walks like a
duck . . . . Has anyone actually seen the two of them together? Funny thing
.. . . "Vern" disappears and who is left? "Wolf(Vern)gang." And the "shiny
new nickel" business. Then there is this bit about dogs. And as I recall
"Vern" had his own interesting take on dogs too. Some people have said they
have seen him, but has anyone actually checked his ID? You know that in
German, "W" is pronounced like an English "V." See where this leads?
Exactly.

Dave

no signs of her out there today .... but there was a pair in a cottonwood
about 50 feet from my back door for a while ... probably the same Woodies
and they were just napping between real estate visits, trying to find a home
to raise a family in a good neighborhood, yesterday ..... think Wolfgang
woulda gotten my million shiny nickels ... but I may check again in a week
or so

On the bird subject .... there were 6 baby mallards, and an "acting wounded
mamma" on the pond today, freshly hatched ...... and even more exciting I
just drove in from a trip to town to find a cock valley quail strutting
around near my water pump/tank in the front 'yard' I was pretty sure
they had all abandoned the area, as I haven't seen one in a long time, but I
let some blackberries and honeysuckle and other things any decent farmer
would fight to the death grow along a fence row and it seems to have had
it's intended effect ...... just just gotta love nature

"Larry L" wrote in message
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no signs of her out there today .... but there was a pair in a cottonwood
about 50 feet from my back door for a while ... probably the same Woodies
and they were just napping between real estate visits, trying to find a
home to raise a family in a good neighborhood, yesterday ..... think
Wolfgang woulda gotten my million shiny nickels ... but I may check again
in a week or so

Hm......

If memory serves (and she does ocassionally cooperate), Wolfgang offerred to
bet a million shiny new nickels "ON", not "AGAINST" the possibilty that
woodies might sometimes nest on the ground.

I'd bet a shiny new nickel that Wolfgang would recommend you stay away from
Vegas.

On the bird subject .... there were 6 baby mallards, and an "acting
wounded mamma" on the pond today, freshly hatched ...... and even more
exciting I just drove in from a trip to town to find a cock valley quail
strutting around near my water pump/tank in the front 'yard' I was
pretty sure they had all abandoned the area, as I haven't seen one in a
long time, but I let some blackberries and honeysuckle and other things
any decent farmer would fight to the death grow along a fence row and it
seems to have had it's intended effect ...... just just gotta love nature

Cholera?

Typhus?

Malaria?

Yersinia pestis?

Wolfgang
who has a deep and abiding love for some parts (mostly the naughty bits, if
truth be told) of nature.