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Bob La Londe March 12th, 2004 07:23 PM

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Calif Bill March 12th, 2004 07:30 PM

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Just think how much you could make, running the fair circuit with that big
moma in a tank? Make money showing up at the bass-o-rama type shows. More
than showing a mounted and stuffed fish.



Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers March 12th, 2004 07:54 PM

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Call me names, vilifiy me all you want, but if I would ever land a World
Record Largemouth, or Smallmouth for that matter, it's going headfirst into
the livewell.

I'll keep it alive to the best of my abilities, but if that's not possible,
it's still coming home with me. I'm all for Catch and Release, but there
are limits.....
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J Buck March 12th, 2004 11:05 PM

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I'm all for Catch and Release, but there are limits.....

Well put LoL And as another post pointed out, any fish that old is
gonna die soon anyway from old age


John Kerr March 13th, 2004 12:20 AM

Worlds Record Bass - Kill it or Save it?
 
Record the record and put it back! It will probably be caught in
California, and my son informed me that it is against California law to
transport it live out of state, so the million dollars that has been
offered by Bass Pro Shops for the live record is not available.
My son and MIke Long prbably have as good a chance at that record as
anyone, and they both have vowed to release it if that occurs...just
record it, take one scale, and let the "big guy/lady" go. Mike has
already caught a 20 # plus and released it. As for me, I would do the
same thing. jmo
JK


G. M. Zimmermann March 13th, 2004 08:33 AM

Worlds Record Bass - Kill it or Save it?
 
If I ever did catch any record book fish, I would probably never know it. I
might take a picture of it, but more likely would simply admire it for a moment
and put it right back. I don't need fortune and I don't want fame. Thats not
why I fish.

-Zimmy

Craig Baugher March 13th, 2004 02:05 PM

Worlds Record Bass - Kill it or Save it?
 
I love to fish, I really, really do. But I am also a very competitive
person. I cannot help it. Put me in contact with another human and I am
primed to compete. It wouldn't matter what it was, it could be spitting the
farthest, I would be looking for the competition.

Logically speaking, if you caught a World Record Fish, chance are, that fish
is in it last year of life anyways. We also don't know, because no one has
ever tagged and released one of the top monsters to see if one was ever
caught again. I suspect, a number of the monsters we catch and release die
within a day or two, due to the stress of being caught, and all the
handling. Which is bound to remove its protective slime coat.

If you caught a World Record Fish and you put it in a tank by itself, with
slime chemicals, and gave it a chance to totally recover, it would have a
better chance of survival and could be thoroughly examined for the record.

Something to think about. The reason so many fish caught in a tournament
live is because of the chemicals we put into our livewells. The reason so
many fish die after a tournament, is because of the Jerks that don't!!!

So I say, I would keep the fish. Put it in a livewell tank my itself,
photograph it, weigh it, and give it all the time it needs to recover. Then
recognize me as the World Record holder and let me die a happy man. Being
richer for and from the experience.

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Crownliner March 13th, 2004 02:39 PM

Worlds Record Bass - Kill it or Save it?
 
ok, i'll admit it. as petty as it sounds, i would put it in bass pro's
giant aquarium if they paid me, and if not i would mount it. i know that is
selfish, but if you let it go, it is going to die anyway at some point, or
worse grow a bit and get caught again and you would lose your record.

that being said, with all the mexican lakes and south american lakes now
getting stocked with largemouth, at some poin the record will fall and it
won't mean near what the old one did. much like in football and other
sports the times are changing. i think the new record will be broken
several times in a short span, where this one has stood for decades. there
is a big difference in fish management and trophy lake management now.

hope you all still love me :-)
crownliner
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Bob La Londe March 13th, 2004 02:52 PM

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"Craig Baugher" wrote in message
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I love to fish, I really, really do. But I am also a very competitive
person. I cannot help it. Put me in contact with another human and I am
primed to compete. It wouldn't matter what it was, it could be spitting

the
farthest, I would be looking for the competition.

Logically speaking, if you caught a World Record Fish, chance are, that

fish
is in it last year of life anyways. We also don't know, because no one

has
ever tagged and released one of the top monsters to see if one was ever
caught again.


I thought a 21 lb near record fish was caught twice in Ca in the last couple
years. They knew because it had a similar mark on it. I believe a couple
trout fishermen found it floating last year.

I'm pretty sure that was in the last Field and Stream magazine.

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I suspect, a number of the monsters we catch and release die
within a day or two, due to the stress of being caught, and all the
handling. Which is bound to remove its protective slime coat.

If you caught a World Record Fish and you put it in a tank by itself, with
slime chemicals, and gave it a chance to totally recover, it would have a
better chance of survival and could be thoroughly examined for the record.

Something to think about. The reason so many fish caught in a tournament
live is because of the chemicals we put into our livewells. The reason so
many fish die after a tournament, is because of the Jerks that don't!!!

So I say, I would keep the fish. Put it in a livewell tank my itself,
photograph it, weigh it, and give it all the time it needs to recover.

Then
recognize me as the World Record holder and let me die a happy man. Being
richer for and from the experience.

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Craig Baugher





Henry Hefner March 13th, 2004 03:47 PM

Worlds Record Bass - Kill it or Save it?
 
G. M. Zimmermann wrote:
If I ever did catch any record book fish, I would probably never know it. I
might take a picture of it, but more likely would simply admire it for a moment
and put it right back. I don't need fortune and I don't want fame. Thats not
why I fish.

-Zimmy




I couldn't care less about fame. I guess I just don't need fans to feed
my ego, but fortune? Man, it must be nice to have enough money to not be
struggling to keep bills paid. I would want to do my best to care for
the fish, but it's going to live high on the hog in a beatiful aquarium
somewhere, making money for my family. I don't need much myself, I
PREFER jeans and sneakers, but the kid's gotta eat, and with a little
cash I could spend more time with them.

H. Hefner


Ken Blevins March 13th, 2004 05:12 PM

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Bob
To date, I have never taken a fish home with me but if I catch a record
size bass ,its going on the wall .No doubt about it.


Ken Blevins
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go-bassn March 13th, 2004 05:20 PM

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I dunno John, with all due respect to you, your son & anyone else that may
catch the record - releasing that old fish may be a good publicity stunt but
in the long run it could only cost its freedom-giver a whole big pile of
cash. There's a big old difference between a 22 pounder & a 23 pounder,
7-figures big. I doubt either of you would release it.

Warren

"John Kerr" wrote in message
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Record the record and put it back! It will probably be caught in
California, and my son informed me that it is against California law to
transport it live out of state, so the million dollars that has been
offered by Bass Pro Shops for the live record is not available.
My son and MIke Long prbably have as good a chance at that record as
anyone, and they both have vowed to release it if that occurs...just
record it, take one scale, and let the "big guy/lady" go. Mike has
already caught a 20 # plus and released it. As for me, I would do the
same thing. jmo
JK




SimRacer March 13th, 2004 07:50 PM

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"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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http://tinyurl.com/ytkze


Call me names, vilifiy me all you want, but if I would ever land a World
Record Largemouth, or Smallmouth for that matter, it's going headfirst

into
the livewell.

I'll keep it alive to the best of my abilities, but if that's not

possible,
it's still coming home with me. I'm all for Catch and Release, but there
are limits.....


Agreed 100% Steve. Fish are a renewable resource. I CPR most all the fish I
catch (sal****er *meat* fish being the exception, flounder, some King
Mackeral and the occasional rockfish/striper, et al) but let a great big
bass get on, and lemme think it's a record (wouldn't take much over 14# here
in NC), and I am taking it to a certified scale somewhere and will do my
best to keep it healthy, but you're right, there are limits.



RichG March 13th, 2004 10:13 PM

Worlds Record Bass - Kill it or Save it?
 
In Texas, we have what is called the "Save a Lunker" program.

Obviously, I have never participated, but I think it goes like this...

Any fish over 13 lbs ( that's big by my standards) caught between Dec and
end of March ( I might be wrong on the months) should be kept alive and
reported to the TX Parks & Wildlife Department. They send a guy out,
equipped with a big fish travel truck. They weight it, photograph it and
then take the fish to the spawning tanks in Athens, TX.

After one year, (assuming the fish is still alive) it is retuned to the
same body of water from which it was removed. Most live..most are retuned to
the water. The fisherman gets a free plaque and fiberglass mount that is a
replica of his catch. They've been doing it for about ten years, and
hundreds have been caught and turned in. The TPWD believes that the big
fish's spawn helps improve the breed stock.
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John Kerr March 14th, 2004 01:33 AM

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Worlds Record Bass - Kill it or Save it?

Group: rec.outdoors.fishing.bass Date: Sat, Mar 13, 2004, 12:20pm
(CST+1) From: (go-bassn)
I dunno John, with all due respect to you, your son & anyone else that
may catch the record - releasing that old fish may be a good publicity
stunt but in the long run it could only cost its freedom-giver a whole
big pile of cash. There's a big old difference between a 22 pounder & a
23 pounder, 7-figures big. I doubt either of you would release it.
Warren
======
"John Kerr" wrote in message
...
Record the record and put it back! It will probably be caught in
California, and my son informed me that it is against California law to
transport it live out of state, so the million dollars that has been
offered by Bass Pro Shops for the live record is not available. My son
and MIke Long prbably have as good a chance at that record as anyone,
and they both have vowed to release it if that occurs...just record it,
take one scale, and let the "big guy/lady" go. Mike has already caught a
20 # plus and released it. As for me, I would do the same thing. jmo
JK
=====
Warren, maybe you'er right, greed might get to me if someone offered
alot of money for the fish it's self. But even releasing it, you could
make a few million if you were well know in bass fishing circles. I
believe Mike made a hefty sum on that 20# plus fish he caught, pictures
and articles...he has a good "agent" g.
JK


Charles Summers March 14th, 2004 03:29 AM

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I gotta agree with every reply like this one! Just on for the wall is all I
want.

The possbility of me ever breaking the record is slim to none... LOL

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"Ken Blevins" wrote in message
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Bob
To date, I have never taken a fish home with me but if I catch a record
size bass ,its going on the wall .No doubt about it.


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Henry Hefner March 14th, 2004 03:58 AM

Worlds Record Bass - Kill it or Save it?
 
RichG wrote:
In Texas, we have what is called the "Save a Lunker" program.


For anyone interested in more info, rules, and care of lunker bass:

http://tinyurl.com/2w6zg

Also there are links so you can view past and present entries.

Marty March 14th, 2004 06:10 AM

Worlds Record Bass - Kill it or Save it?
 
As much as I hate to kill fish, I'd do what I had to in order to get that
$1mil or so. Of course, I'll never catch one (in all likelihood) that's even
a third of the record, so this is pretty hypothetical.



bassrecord March 14th, 2004 07:57 AM

Worlds Record Bass - Kill it or Save it?
 
"Ken Blevins" wrote in message
...
Bob
To date, I have never taken a fish home with me but if I catch a record
size bass ,its going on the wall .No doubt about it.


If you donate your 13+ pound bass to Texas ShareLunker program, Lake Fork
Taxidermists make a cast of it for your wall while it is still living and
the ShareLunker program uses your bass in breeding if it is a pure Florida
strain. They said my 14 pound 2 oz. Rosie (Sharelunker #361) had the largest
shoulders they had seen for her length and girth. Instead of on the wall,
Rosie is in a case which goes to a lot of fly tying shows where I show kids
and unbelievers that it is possible to catch a world record bass on a fly
rod. Kids of all ages really need to see what a big bass looks like.

Fame and fortune? Unless an all tackle world record holder is a tournament
fisherman, guide or owns a tackle shop I doubt if there is very much money
coming his way. I haven't got a cent for the fly rod record.

There is another option. A week or so later I was down at the Lake Meredith
Stilling basin and a good ole boy bait fisherman said to me, "Iffin I ever
caught me a bass that big, it'd be filetted, rolled in corn meal and fried
in a country minute!" ROFLMAO!

Good luck!
John







alwayfishking March 14th, 2004 11:45 AM

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I'd probably hang it around my neck for a week or two, then have the smile
surgically removed... and take a shower or two
"bassrecord" wrote in message
...
"Ken Blevins" wrote in message
...
Bob
To date, I have never taken a fish home with me but if I catch a record
size bass ,its going on the wall .No doubt about it.


If you donate your 13+ pound bass to Texas ShareLunker program, Lake Fork
Taxidermists make a cast of it for your wall while it is still living and
the ShareLunker program uses your bass in breeding if it is a pure Florida
strain. They said my 14 pound 2 oz. Rosie (Sharelunker #361) had the

largest
shoulders they had seen for her length and girth. Instead of on the wall,
Rosie is in a case which goes to a lot of fly tying shows where I show

kids
and unbelievers that it is possible to catch a world record bass on a fly
rod. Kids of all ages really need to see what a big bass looks like.

Fame and fortune? Unless an all tackle world record holder is a

tournament
fisherman, guide or owns a tackle shop I doubt if there is very much money
coming his way. I haven't got a cent for the fly rod record.

There is another option. A week or so later I was down at the Lake

Meredith
Stilling basin and a good ole boy bait fisherman said to me, "Iffin I ever
caught me a bass that big, it'd be filetted, rolled in corn meal and fried
in a country minute!" ROFLMAO!

Good luck!
John









John Kerr March 15th, 2004 09:18 AM

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Warren, If it's caught in California, you can't take it out of the
state. No touring with it, at least not alive. g
JK


Bob La Londe March 15th, 2004 02:13 PM

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There are no provisions for scientific collection or transportation permits?

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Warren, If it's caught in California, you can't take it out of the
state. No touring with it, at least not alive. g
JK




John Kerr March 15th, 2004 04:15 PM

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Worlds Record Bass - Kill it or Save it?
======
Bob, I never actually checked on any of this myself, there could be some
permits and such...I am just going by what I was told.
JK
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permits?
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Warren, If it's caught in California, you can't take it out of the
state. No touring with it, at least not alive. g JK


go-bassn March 15th, 2004 04:33 PM

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Maybe so, but CA is a BIG state lol...

WW

"John Kerr" wrote in message
...
Warren, If it's caught in California, you can't take it out of the
state. No touring with it, at least not alive. g
JK




Henry Hefner March 15th, 2004 11:07 PM

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John Kerr wrote:

Warren, If it's caught in California, you can't take it out of the
state. No touring with it, at least not alive. g JK


I'm interested in this law. Is there mandatory jail time? Just a fine? I
think you might be able to pay a pretty hefty fine with the proceeds.
is this a law on all wildlife?

alwayfishking March 17th, 2004 08:31 PM

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If it was caught in CA, I don't think the state would mind much with all the
publicity it would get making a tour until it died that is.
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Maybe so, but CA is a BIG state lol...

WW

"John Kerr" wrote in message
...
Warren, If it's caught in California, you can't take it out of the
state. No touring with it, at least not alive. g
JK






SimRacer March 17th, 2004 10:12 PM

Worlds Record Bass - Kill it or Save it?
 
"RichG" wrote in message
m...
In Texas, we have what is called the "Save a Lunker" program.

Obviously, I have never participated, but I think it goes like this...

Any fish over 13 lbs ( that's big by my standards) caught between Dec and
end of March ( I might be wrong on the months) should be kept alive and
reported to the TX Parks & Wildlife Department. They send a guy out,
equipped with a big fish travel truck. They weight it, photograph it and
then take the fish to the spawning tanks in Athens, TX.

After one year, (assuming the fish is still alive) it is retuned to the
same body of water from which it was removed. Most live..most are retuned

to
the water. The fisherman gets a free plaque and fiberglass mount that is a
replica of his catch. They've been doing it for about ten years, and
hundreds have been caught and turned in. The TPWD believes that the big
fish's spawn helps improve the breed stock.
--
RichG
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners--


That sounds like a cool program. Of course if they instituted it here in NC,
the size would have to be smaller, as I am pretty sure our record is on the
order or 14-14 or 14-15. Maybe do ours at 11 pounds? 10 Pounds is becoming
more common in areas (I personally only have one that size to my credit),
but rarely do you hear of a 11+ lb fish here except in the record books. Our
lakes with the best potential have moved to a 16" minimum size for keeping
and one lake has a 16"-20" slot for helping out those mid-sizers to grow
into biguns.




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