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gobassn June 6th, 2005 06:47 AM

Rodney's Latest Claims
 
His new, improved rubberband will put the Senko to shame:

"well it took the Senko 6 years, and
it is a good lure, but nothing like this.""

Fish not biting? No problem! You'll never be skunked again, just wiggle
your rig:

"I have fine tuned my wiggle rig to catch everything from bream to bass,
and when they are bitting nothing else"

Not sure what he's saying here (but it's so funny I had to add it):

"My Boomerang was like the Write brother's flyer, or Apples first
computer. They both were great acomplichments"

Leave all your other lures home folks, but bring an extra wiggle rig or two.
You'll win every tournament you fish:

"The SpecTastic Wiggle Rig and lure is to fishing, like a Main frame, is
to computing and the F-28 Rapture is to flying."

Words of wisdom from the man that reinvented the fish hook:

"NEVER TAKE ANOTHER'S BAR ROOM BET, you will always loose."

If there's a bass in your favorite trout stream, beware - you're about to
catch it:

"The Wiggle rig is not going to be marketed to bass fishermen, but to
live bait fishermen, trout, and pan fishermen. Although these guys will
catch any bass that is near where they are using the rig."

But fret not fellow bass fishermen, because:

"You will be reading about it in all the fishing rags over the next year,
and beyond, in five years you probably won't buy a rag without some
story about it in it..."

-yup, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle every month - Field & Stream, Sports Afield,
Esquire...

And if you thought bass fishing was big:

"This market is 20 times that of bass fishermen, and these guys just want to
catch fish any fish, and they are not arogant, like many bass fishermen
are."

ESPN, by the way, is cancelling BassCenter in light of the upcoming Crappie
Saturday block of programs.

What seperates us (lowly) bassers from the livebait, trout & panfishermen?
"their heads are not too big, and their brains so small"

It's so simple:

"The "new" wiggle rig is based on my learning what every editor fish will
eat, regardless of the time of the day, regardless of the size of the
fish, they all eat this in it's natural state, when ever they find one. "

Rodney's found the Holy Grail that lure manufacturers have been searching
for for centuries. Lauri Rapala you should be ashamed of yourself:

"I just came up with a way to mimic the "natural state" of this food with
a plastic lure of the same shape and size."

Yes folks, this thing's even gonna put the minnow guy out of business:

"We have fished it side by side everything from live bait to every lure you
can think of, (it has out caught everything)"

And straight from the genius that's about to turn the fishing world upside
down:

"When are you going to learn ?"

Ouch, that hurts.

Warren ;-)
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



alwaysfishking June 6th, 2005 10:05 AM

geez now your going to get sued


"gobassn" wrote in message
...
His new, improved rubberband will put the Senko to shame:

"well it took the Senko 6 years, and
it is a good lure, but nothing like this.""

Fish not biting? No problem! You'll never be skunked again, just wiggle
your rig:

"I have fine tuned my wiggle rig to catch everything from bream to bass,
and when they are bitting nothing else"

Not sure what he's saying here (but it's so funny I had to add it):

"My Boomerang was like the Write brother's flyer, or Apples first
computer. They both were great acomplichments"

Leave all your other lures home folks, but bring an extra wiggle rig or
two. You'll win every tournament you fish:

"The SpecTastic Wiggle Rig and lure is to fishing, like a Main frame, is
to computing and the F-28 Rapture is to flying."

Words of wisdom from the man that reinvented the fish hook:

"NEVER TAKE ANOTHER'S BAR ROOM BET, you will always loose."

If there's a bass in your favorite trout stream, beware - you're about to
catch it:

"The Wiggle rig is not going to be marketed to bass fishermen, but to
live bait fishermen, trout, and pan fishermen. Although these guys will
catch any bass that is near where they are using the rig."

But fret not fellow bass fishermen, because:

"You will be reading about it in all the fishing rags over the next year,
and beyond, in five years you probably won't buy a rag without some
story about it in it..."

-yup, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle every month - Field & Stream, Sports Afield,
Esquire...

And if you thought bass fishing was big:

"This market is 20 times that of bass fishermen, and these guys just want
to catch fish any fish, and they are not arogant, like many bass fishermen
are."

ESPN, by the way, is cancelling BassCenter in light of the upcoming
Crappie Saturday block of programs.

What seperates us (lowly) bassers from the livebait, trout &
panfishermen?
"their heads are not too big, and their brains so small"

It's so simple:

"The "new" wiggle rig is based on my learning what every editor fish will
eat, regardless of the time of the day, regardless of the size of the
fish, they all eat this in it's natural state, when ever they find one. "

Rodney's found the Holy Grail that lure manufacturers have been searching
for for centuries. Lauri Rapala you should be ashamed of yourself:

"I just came up with a way to mimic the "natural state" of this food with
a plastic lure of the same shape and size."

Yes folks, this thing's even gonna put the minnow guy out of business:

"We have fished it side by side everything from live bait to every lure
you
can think of, (it has out caught everything)"

And straight from the genius that's about to turn the fishing world upside
down:

"When are you going to learn ?"

Ouch, that hurts.

Warren ;-)
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions





AJH June 6th, 2005 12:21 PM

Maybe he's going to "Wright" his lawyer...


Jerry Barton June 6th, 2005 02:57 PM

Let's see you "wiggle" outta' this. ;-)

"AJH" wrote in message
...
Maybe he's going to "Wright" his lawyer...




Bob La Londe June 6th, 2005 06:08 PM

"gobassn" wrote in message
...
His new, improved rubberband will put the Senko to shame:

"well it took the Senko 6 years, and
it is a good lure, but nothing like this.""

Fish not biting? No problem! You'll never be skunked again, just wiggle
your rig:

"I have fine tuned my wiggle rig to catch everything from bream to bass,
and when they are bitting nothing else"

Not sure what he's saying here (but it's so funny I had to add it):

"My Boomerang was like the Write brother's flyer, or Apples first
computer. They both were great acomplichments"

Leave all your other lures home folks, but bring an extra wiggle rig or
two. You'll win every tournament you fish:

"The SpecTastic Wiggle Rig and lure is to fishing, like a Main frame, is
to computing and the F-28 Rapture is to flying."

Words of wisdom from the man that reinvented the fish hook:

"NEVER TAKE ANOTHER'S BAR ROOM BET, you will always loose."

If there's a bass in your favorite trout stream, beware - you're about to
catch it:

"The Wiggle rig is not going to be marketed to bass fishermen, but to
live bait fishermen, trout, and pan fishermen. Although these guys will
catch any bass that is near where they are using the rig."

But fret not fellow bass fishermen, because:

"You will be reading about it in all the fishing rags over the next year,
and beyond, in five years you probably won't buy a rag without some
story about it in it..."

-yup, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle every month - Field & Stream, Sports Afield,
Esquire...

And if you thought bass fishing was big:

"This market is 20 times that of bass fishermen, and these guys just want
to catch fish any fish, and they are not arogant, like many bass fishermen
are."

ESPN, by the way, is cancelling BassCenter in light of the upcoming
Crappie Saturday block of programs.

What seperates us (lowly) bassers from the livebait, trout &
panfishermen?
"their heads are not too big, and their brains so small"

It's so simple:

"The "new" wiggle rig is based on my learning what every editor fish will
eat, regardless of the time of the day, regardless of the size of the
fish, they all eat this in it's natural state, when ever they find one. "

Rodney's found the Holy Grail that lure manufacturers have been searching
for for centuries. Lauri Rapala you should be ashamed of yourself:

"I just came up with a way to mimic the "natural state" of this food with
a plastic lure of the same shape and size."

Yes folks, this thing's even gonna put the minnow guy out of business:

"We have fished it side by side everything from live bait to every lure
you
can think of, (it has out caught everything)"

And straight from the genius that's about to turn the fishing world upside
down:

"When are you going to learn ?"

Ouch, that hurts.

Warren ;-)
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



Oh come on Warren. Its obvious that Rodney takes his work way to seriously.
Now you want to bait him? That's just too much.


--
Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



go-bassn June 6th, 2005 08:33 PM

Lol Bob, I reserve the right to have as much fun as I want with anybody that
calls me an "A=Hole".

Any problem with that?

Warren



"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"gobassn" wrote in message
...
His new, improved rubberband will put the Senko to shame:

"well it took the Senko 6 years, and
it is a good lure, but nothing like this.""

Fish not biting? No problem! You'll never be skunked again, just

wiggle
your rig:

"I have fine tuned my wiggle rig to catch everything from bream to bass,
and when they are bitting nothing else"

Not sure what he's saying here (but it's so funny I had to add it):

"My Boomerang was like the Write brother's flyer, or Apples first
computer. They both were great acomplichments"

Leave all your other lures home folks, but bring an extra wiggle rig or
two. You'll win every tournament you fish:

"The SpecTastic Wiggle Rig and lure is to fishing, like a Main frame, is
to computing and the F-28 Rapture is to flying."

Words of wisdom from the man that reinvented the fish hook:

"NEVER TAKE ANOTHER'S BAR ROOM BET, you will always loose."

If there's a bass in your favorite trout stream, beware - you're about

to
catch it:

"The Wiggle rig is not going to be marketed to bass fishermen, but to
live bait fishermen, trout, and pan fishermen. Although these guys will
catch any bass that is near where they are using the rig."

But fret not fellow bass fishermen, because:

"You will be reading about it in all the fishing rags over the next

year,
and beyond, in five years you probably won't buy a rag without some
story about it in it..."

-yup, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle every month - Field & Stream, Sports

Afield,
Esquire...

And if you thought bass fishing was big:

"This market is 20 times that of bass fishermen, and these guys just

want
to catch fish any fish, and they are not arogant, like many bass

fishermen
are."

ESPN, by the way, is cancelling BassCenter in light of the upcoming
Crappie Saturday block of programs.

What seperates us (lowly) bassers from the livebait, trout &
panfishermen?
"their heads are not too big, and their brains so small"

It's so simple:

"The "new" wiggle rig is based on my learning what every editor fish

will
eat, regardless of the time of the day, regardless of the size of the
fish, they all eat this in it's natural state, when ever they find one.

"

Rodney's found the Holy Grail that lure manufacturers have been

searching
for for centuries. Lauri Rapala you should be ashamed of yourself:

"I just came up with a way to mimic the "natural state" of this food

with
a plastic lure of the same shape and size."

Yes folks, this thing's even gonna put the minnow guy out of business:

"We have fished it side by side everything from live bait to every lure
you
can think of, (it has out caught everything)"

And straight from the genius that's about to turn the fishing world

upside
down:

"When are you going to learn ?"

Ouch, that hurts.

Warren ;-)
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



Oh come on Warren. Its obvious that Rodney takes his work way to

seriously.
Now you want to bait him? That's just too much.


--
Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com





Bob La Londe June 6th, 2005 10:40 PM

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Lol Bob, I reserve the right to have as much fun as I want with anybody

that
calls me an "A=Hole".

Any problem with that?

Warren



Oh, far be it from me to make any attempt to abridge your individual right
to freedom of expression. Feel free to spout away. I find the whole thing
amusing. Of course if I had walked into this conversation blind my first
question would be, "by birth or hard work?" LOL Personally I was born one.

I noticed Rodney didn't respond to me again after making clear his position
on bassers in general. LOL.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com



Joshuall June 7th, 2005 01:50 AM

Just remember Warren when it comes to Libel n slander...
TRUTH is the 100?% defense grin.



--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



gobassn June 7th, 2005 03:01 AM

Nothin but the truth big-guy.

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Joshuall" wrote in message
...
Just remember Warren when it comes to Libel n slander...
TRUTH is the 100?% defense grin.



--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear




Rodney June 7th, 2005 03:46 AM

gobassn wrote:


And straight from the genius that's about to turn the fishing world upside
down:


How about that, you finally got it

"When are you going to learn ?"

Ouch, that hurts.

Warren ;-)


It should Warren, the thing is, your shooting blind, and without ammo.

My hooks and weight, that you called snake oil, that you made all the
snide remarks about being trash, are highly recommended by the pro's,
Hell my hook's Use was even taught at this years Bass collage, My weight
was even in the "ask the Pro's" section of Bassmasters. Now I'm telling
you I've changed fishing,, I've got something that catches everything,
when nothing is bitting everything else. I would not have made that
statement unless it was 100% true, it would be too easy for someone to
shoot it down after "using it".

So now it will be three things that have been "PROVED" to help people
catch more fish that you have put down to others,,, H'mmmm sounds like
you don't want people catching more fish than you. Are is it your just
can't stand it, that I was the one that came up with them.

As far as me improving the Boomerang,, hell man everything that has been
invented you used today, is an improvement over the first one invented.
You calling it a rubber band does not take away what this rig "does",
and according the the U.S. Patent office I was the first one to ever
think about getting that action with a high tech rubber band, or
ANYTHING ELSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was the first to get a lure to move with perfect vibrations, and you
keep it in one spot, while it does it, no one else has ever come up with
a lure that you could fish in one spot for hours, not some small
accomplishment, as no one had ever done it. Yes I know it kills you that
the principle was so simple, that "you could have thought of it", but
the thing is, you didn't, and neither did any other of the millions of
fishermen in the world, nor any manufacturer. There was a need for this
application,, if for nothing else, bedded bass, anyone who has fished
bass beds wants to "keep" that lure "active" "in" that bed, to say
that's not true, is lying Warren, and my rig, is the only rig, that will
do it

Now I have teamed the "improved" high tech rubber band, that is now the
same dia. as 30# mono, only 4 inches long, yet stretches to 12 inches,
at only 3/8 Oz pull, but is now 40# breaking test, with a lure that
takes advantage of that High tench's rubber's action, to put in front of
any fish, a treat, they will eat, at any, and every opertunity, when
they find it, just like they do the real thing, in nature. I'm sure I,
and others will find other lures that mimic other fish treats they can't
refuse with this action applied to them, but why should we market
anything over just this one, it works, it has worked every time,
everywhere and on every species of fish, we have tested it.

Today I caught 17 bass, 24 blue gills and 6 stripe from the bank with
it. nothing huge, because there was nothing huge there, So I used a 500
micro lite and 4 lb test, I had a ball

Six other bank fishermen on the same bank, fishing the same area, using
both lures, and live bait, caught a total of 2 bream.

Warren, instead of the 6 tackle boxes of lures, and tackle I used to
carry fishing,, everything I need now fits in my pocket (when I hang up
and break off, is the only reason I need to or carry spare tackle now).

I don't expect anyone else to dump all their other tackle, and never use
other things,, heck, nostalgia will keep them trying and sometimes
succeeding with their old gear :-). Many people like to "cover" a lot of
water,, you don't do this, with this rig, and still catch fish, so they
will need their tackle boxes full, for machine gunning the banks,
getting one bass in 20 to hit,as they fly a lure by, when the dinner
bell has "not" been rung.

To be honest, this has only been working a few weeks now, (that's when I
started testing it), I don't know how it will do in other seasons, we
can only guess, but it works here, and it is working in California,
right now.

Warren I asked you to call Larry and ask him,, Why have you not done so
? or are you going to call him a snake oil salesman, and lier ?

How about your friend, the Bassdozer, he has not seen this new rig yet
(at least I don't think so) but he knows me, and knows I don't Bull ****
about my fishing inventions

Note*

This high tech rubber band was not as simple to make as Warren makes
out, the makers of "Spectra" (Honeywell) the outer fiber, that let's
this rubber stand up to fishing, said it was not possible to make it
work,, so did the textile company who braids it for me, So "I" had to
engineer the actual way this is manufactured, and then pay them to try
my way. TO their disbelief, it worked, and I patented it.


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney June 7th, 2005 02:38 PM

Rodney wrote:

Now I have teamed the "improved" high tech rubber band, that is now the
same dia. as 30# mono, only 4 inches long, yet stretches to 12 inches,
at only 3/8 Oz pull, but is now 40# breaking test, with a lure that
takes advantage of that High tench's rubber's action, to put in front of
any fish, a treat, they will eat, at any, and every opertunity, when
they find it, just like they do the real thing, in nature.


I really doubt that any professional tournament fishermen will switch to
this lure for tournament fishing, they don't like wasting their time
reeling in every species they come across,, no, this is for the other 50
million fishermen who just want to always catch fish, any fish, so far
kids have went nuts over this, those who didn't like fishing because
they caught so few, even my wife wants to go fishing now. This rig may
just get a lot more people fishing again, and those fishing for the
first time, to get hooked on fishing.

Those "in the industry" think it's a major break through in fishing, I
guess "Warren" is the only one who matters though, since he does not
believe it will work, I will just drop it. I mean it can't work if he
says it can't, all the testing is flawed, just coincidence, Warren has
always been right about everything in fishing tackle, he wins every
tournament he fishes in, he makes millions a year in the industry, and
every manufacturer ask him if they should bring out anything new, that
he has not tried or approved for the fishermen of this country.
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

AJH June 7th, 2005 03:25 PM

Yeah, but Warren isn't a arrogant azz h--e..


[email protected] June 7th, 2005 04:53 PM

Rodney, when will you learn that you are not going to win over anyone in
this NG. Your own past arrogant behavior here makes that highly unlikely.

While I can't say one way or another whether your products produce or not. I
know that I would not spend any money on your gadgets, simply because of
your past obnoxious attitude. JMHO!

--
David Norton

"Rodney" wrote in message
...
Rodney wrote:

Now I have teamed the "improved" high tech rubber band, that is now the
same dia. as 30# mono, only 4 inches long, yet stretches to 12 inches, at
only 3/8 Oz pull, but is now 40# breaking test, with a lure that takes
advantage of that High tench's rubber's action, to put in front of any
fish, a treat, they will eat, at any, and every opertunity, when they
find it, just like they do the real thing, in nature.


I really doubt that any professional tournament fishermen will switch to
this lure for tournament fishing, they don't like wasting their time
reeling in every species they come across,, no, this is for the other 50
million fishermen who just want to always catch fish, any fish, so far
kids have went nuts over this, those who didn't like fishing because they
caught so few, even my wife wants to go fishing now. This rig may just get
a lot more people fishing again, and those fishing for the first time, to
get hooked on fishing.

Those "in the industry" think it's a major break through in fishing, I
guess "Warren" is the only one who matters though, since he does not
believe it will work, I will just drop it. I mean it can't work if he says
it can't, all the testing is flawed, just coincidence, Warren has always
been right about everything in fishing tackle, he wins every tournament he
fishes in, he makes millions a year in the industry, and every
manufacturer ask him if they should bring out anything new, that he has
not tried or approved for the fishermen of this country.
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com




Chris Rennert June 7th, 2005 05:17 PM

wrote:
Rodney, when will you learn that you are not going to win over anyone in
this NG. Your own past arrogant behavior here makes that highly unlikely.

While I can't say one way or another whether your products produce or not. I
know that I would not spend any money on your gadgets, simply because of
your past obnoxious attitude. JMHO!


Rodney, that is really the bottom line. It is you that nobody will buy,
and therefore anything you sell falls under "You"!

Oh well.

Chris

Slow Roller June 10th, 2005 01:02 AM

Rodney wrote:
gobassn wrote:


And straight from the genius that's about to turn the fishing world
upside down:



How about that, you finally got it


"When are you going to learn ?"

Ouch, that hurts.

Warren ;-)



It should Warren, the thing is, your shooting blind, and without ammo.

My hooks and weight, that you called snake oil, that you made all the
snide remarks about being trash, are highly recommended by the pro's,
Hell my hook's Use was even taught at this years Bass collage, My weight
was even in the "ask the Pro's" section of Bassmasters. Now I'm telling
you I've changed fishing,, I've got something that catches everything,
when nothing is bitting everything else. I would not have made that
statement unless it was 100% true, it would be too easy for someone to
shoot it down after "using it".

So now it will be three things that have been "PROVED" to help people
catch more fish that you have put down to others,,, H'mmmm sounds like
you don't want people catching more fish than you. Are is it your just
can't stand it, that I was the one that came up with them.

As far as me improving the Boomerang,, hell man everything that has been
invented you used today, is an improvement over the first one invented.
You calling it a rubber band does not take away what this rig "does",
and according the the U.S. Patent office I was the first one to ever
think about getting that action with a high tech rubber band, or
ANYTHING ELSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was the first to get a lure to move with perfect vibrations, and you
keep it in one spot, while it does it, no one else has ever come up with
a lure that you could fish in one spot for hours, not some small
accomplishment, as no one had ever done it. Yes I know it kills you that
the principle was so simple, that "you could have thought of it", but
the thing is, you didn't, and neither did any other of the millions of
fishermen in the world, nor any manufacturer. There was a need for this
application,, if for nothing else, bedded bass, anyone who has fished
bass beds wants to "keep" that lure "active" "in" that bed, to say
that's not true, is lying Warren, and my rig, is the only rig, that will
do it

Now I have teamed the "improved" high tech rubber band, that is now the
same dia. as 30# mono, only 4 inches long, yet stretches to 12 inches,
at only 3/8 Oz pull, but is now 40# breaking test, with a lure that
takes advantage of that High tench's rubber's action, to put in front of
any fish, a treat, they will eat, at any, and every opertunity, when
they find it, just like they do the real thing, in nature. I'm sure I,
and others will find other lures that mimic other fish treats they can't
refuse with this action applied to them, but why should we market
anything over just this one, it works, it has worked every time,
everywhere and on every species of fish, we have tested it.

Today I caught 17 bass, 24 blue gills and 6 stripe from the bank with
it. nothing huge, because there was nothing huge there, So I used a 500
micro lite and 4 lb test, I had a ball

Six other bank fishermen on the same bank, fishing the same area, using
both lures, and live bait, caught a total of 2 bream.

Warren, instead of the 6 tackle boxes of lures, and tackle I used to
carry fishing,, everything I need now fits in my pocket (when I hang up
and break off, is the only reason I need to or carry spare tackle now).

I don't expect anyone else to dump all their other tackle, and never use
other things,, heck, nostalgia will keep them trying and sometimes
succeeding with their old gear :-). Many people like to "cover" a lot of
water,, you don't do this, with this rig, and still catch fish, so they
will need their tackle boxes full, for machine gunning the banks,
getting one bass in 20 to hit,as they fly a lure by, when the dinner
bell has "not" been rung.

To be honest, this has only been working a few weeks now, (that's when I
started testing it), I don't know how it will do in other seasons, we
can only guess, but it works here, and it is working in California,
right now.

Warren I asked you to call Larry and ask him,, Why have you not done so
? or are you going to call him a snake oil salesman, and lier ?

How about your friend, the Bassdozer, he has not seen this new rig yet
(at least I don't think so) but he knows me, and knows I don't Bull ****
about my fishing inventions

Note*

This high tech rubber band was not as simple to make as Warren makes
out, the makers of "Spectra" (Honeywell) the outer fiber, that let's
this rubber stand up to fishing, said it was not possible to make it
work,, so did the textile company who braids it for me, So "I" had to
engineer the actual way this is manufactured, and then pay them to try
my way. TO their disbelief, it worked, and I patented it.


For the record I believe I was the first to call you a Snake Oil
salesman and I'm very upset that I'm not getting due credit, but I'm OK
with Warren keeping that alive in my absence.

I've really got to wonder about those two other bream fisherman who
managed only two catches to Rod's bucket full. Sunfish need only
something remotely edible in their face and they'll inhale it - they're
fiercely competitive and stupid. I just love a 10'cane pole and a rubber
cricket. FWOP! ... GULP!

And wasn't it two or three years ago that we heard these very same
claims about that Boomer thing? C'mon Rodney, maybe you could find some
earth shattering new use for goats milk or something...

Shawn

Rodney June 10th, 2005 03:46 AM

Slow Roller wrote:


For the record I believe I was the first to call you a Snake Oil
salesman and I'm very upset that I'm not getting due credit, but I'm OK
with Warren keeping that alive in my absence.


Ok, your the one with no brain cells that talk to each other, let me
explain why below

I've really got to wonder about those two other bream fisherman who
managed only two catches to Rod's bucket full. Sunfish need only
something remotely edible in their face and they'll inhale it - they're
fiercely competitive and stupid. I just love a 10'cane pole and a rubber
cricket. FWOP! ... GULP!


I always "thought" the same thing, but during this test, this was not
the case. I always "thought" if you couldn't catch a bream, there was
none there,, it seams that this is not always true. I was just as
shocked as everyone else. That's why I do scientific testing, You can't
assume anything, you must take out variables, like the time of day, or
even the spot your fishing, all test are head, to head, and side, by
side, even switching which fisherman is using what rig.

Then they are done over, and over, and over, and over, with all the
numbers recorded,, I do what you or other fishermen can't do, or have
the time to do.

Hell, anything will catch fish, at certain times, I search for what
catches more, every time. If one of my terminal tackles is just "as
good" as what's already out there, not worst but just as good, I don't
have a chance in hell to get any manufacturer to pay me thousands of
dollars to license it. Do you actually think these manufactures just
take my word, that mine is better, then whip out their check books. If
you think this, why don't you try to come up with some new lures, and
get a manufacturer to license them from you ??

These companies invest many thousands on bringing out a new product,
even if they come up with it, there is no shortage of new product ideas
out there, but these guys don't "pay" "outside inventors" for snake oil
and gimmicks,

Most of the real gimmicks are brought out by "new" companies, or the
inventor themselves forms a new company to bring them out.

And wasn't it two or three years ago that we heard these very same
claims about that Boomer thing?


It still will out fish any other soft plastic rig, in head to head
fishing, it has never failed,, maybe it's just my expertise with it, as
I can make a soft plastic do anything, but sing with it, so far I have
NEVER been beaten in the same boat, with another bass fisherman that was
not using it.


It is true people who won't take the time to "learn" how to make a lure
move, won't do as well with it, as it takes the lurer's action out of
the manufacturer's hands, and put it into the hands of the fisherman. I
guess it is possible for someone to totally try not to catch fish with
it, and they won't. The Boomerang can't be machine gunned, and out fish
other rigs.

The Boomerang was just marketed wrong, they were trying to sell soft
plastics, and using it to do that. People were bringing the kits back
claiming there was no bungees in the kits, and getting more kits (for
free), just so they could get more bungees (there were only three in the
11 dollar kit and 5 in the 25 dollar kits. It also required at least a
ounce of weight to make it work, most bass fishermen won't throw that
much lead, for any reason. The "New" SpecTastic wiggle rig requires only
3/8 Oz, and even a 1/8 Oz will work when using the patented drop shot
wire on the weight.





--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Chris Rennert June 10th, 2005 03:49 PM

Rodney wrote:
Slow Roller wrote:


For the record I believe I was the first to call you a Snake Oil
salesman and I'm very upset that I'm not getting due credit, but I'm
OK with Warren keeping that alive in my absence.



Ok, your the one with no brain cells that talk to each other, let me
explain why below


I've really got to wonder about those two other bream fisherman who
managed only two catches to Rod's bucket full. Sunfish need only
something remotely edible in their face and they'll inhale it -
they're fiercely competitive and stupid. I just love a 10'cane pole
and a rubber cricket. FWOP! ... GULP!



I always "thought" the same thing, but during this test, this was not
the case. I always "thought" if you couldn't catch a bream, there was
none there,, it seams that this is not always true. I was just as
shocked as everyone else. That's why I do scientific testing, You can't
assume anything, you must take out variables, like the time of day, or
even the spot your fishing, all test are head, to head, and side, by
side, even switching which fisherman is using what rig.

Then they are done over, and over, and over, and over, with all the
numbers recorded,, I do what you or other fishermen can't do, or have
the time to do.

Hell, anything will catch fish, at certain times, I search for what
catches more, every time. If one of my terminal tackles is just "as
good" as what's already out there, not worst but just as good, I don't
have a chance in hell to get any manufacturer to pay me thousands of
dollars to license it. Do you actually think these manufactures just
take my word, that mine is better, then whip out their check books. If
you think this, why don't you try to come up with some new lures, and
get a manufacturer to license them from you ??

These companies invest many thousands on bringing out a new product,
even if they come up with it, there is no shortage of new product ideas
out there, but these guys don't "pay" "outside inventors" for snake oil
and gimmicks,

Most of the real gimmicks are brought out by "new" companies, or the
inventor themselves forms a new company to bring them out.


And wasn't it two or three years ago that we heard these very same
claims about that Boomer thing?



It still will out fish any other soft plastic rig, in head to head
fishing, it has never failed,, maybe it's just my expertise with it, as
I can make a soft plastic do anything, but sing with it, so far I have
NEVER been beaten in the same boat, with another bass fisherman that was
not using it.


It is true people who won't take the time to "learn" how to make a lure
move, won't do as well with it, as it takes the lurer's action out of
the manufacturer's hands, and put it into the hands of the fisherman. I
guess it is possible for someone to totally try not to catch fish with
it, and they won't. The Boomerang can't be machine gunned, and out fish
other rigs.

The Boomerang was just marketed wrong, they were trying to sell soft
plastics, and using it to do that. People were bringing the kits back
claiming there was no bungees in the kits, and getting more kits (for
free), just so they could get more bungees (there were only three in the
11 dollar kit and 5 in the 25 dollar kits. It also required at least a
ounce of weight to make it work, most bass fishermen won't throw that
much lead, for any reason. The "New" SpecTastic wiggle rig requires only
3/8 Oz, and even a 1/8 Oz will work when using the patented drop shot
wire on the weight.





Once again, you say you have never been beaten ... Please bring that
unbeaten streak here. Put it to the test on someone elses home waters
and prove us all wrong. I don't care if it is Wisconsin, Penn., New
York, Florida, Tenn. I just don't care. Just stop talking and prove
it against one of us.

Chris

go-bassn June 10th, 2005 04:08 PM

Rodney stop talking? lol- It'll never happen! We'll just wait around
another 3 years for his snakeoil to take the fishing world by storm, and
when it doesn't he'll come out with the third (or is it 4th?) version of his
underwear elastic & he'll say "this is the one folks!".

Basically, any way you size it up, a turd is a turd...

Warren



Chris Rennert June 10th, 2005 04:38 PM

go-bassn wrote:
Rodney stop talking? lol- It'll never happen! We'll just wait around
another 3 years for his snakeoil to take the fishing world by storm, and
when it doesn't he'll come out with the third (or is it 4th?) version of his
underwear elastic & he'll say "this is the one folks!".

Basically, any way you size it up, a turd is a turd...

Warren


Warren,

You'd think anyone who would make these kinds of claims would love to
back them up , unless of course all it is , is words. The way I see it,
if he really hit upon something so earth shattering he would have jumped
on tour and shown the big boys what fishing is all about. But on his
own admission, and I will dig up the post if I have to , but he says he
cannot locate fish on his own, but if he does, supposedly he will catch
them all.

Oh well I will let it ride, and just "hopes" he shows up and kicks my
ass all over the water.

Chris

Steve & Chris Clark June 10th, 2005 05:02 PM

Warren, he has been perfecting a wax for years for those who like to put a
high polish on turds! I hear it hardly takes him any time at all =8^) a
good hot breath and a run across the surface of his shirtsleeve and VIOLA!
Shiniest turd you ever saw!
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Rodney stop talking? lol- It'll never happen! We'll just wait around
another 3 years for his snakeoil to take the fishing world by storm, and
when it doesn't he'll come out with the third (or is it 4th?) version of

his
underwear elastic & he'll say "this is the one folks!".

Basically, any way you size it up, a turd is a turd...

Warren





Rodney June 10th, 2005 05:12 PM

Chris Rennert wrote:

Once again, you say you have never been beaten ... Please bring that
unbeaten streak here. Put it to the test on someone elses home waters
and prove us all wrong. I don't care if it is Wisconsin, Penn., New
York, Florida, Tenn. I just don't care. Just stop talking and prove
it against one of us.


Now that's funny

What would that gain me ?

I've taken on real pro's, Out door writers, TV producers and real CEO's
of lure companies. I've got the top names in fishing that it has been
proved to. The only reason it has not already taken over, is due to the
way it was marketed,, few would pay 11 dollars for three of them.

Look, y'all don't believe Bill Dance, Al Linder, Ray Scott, Hank Parker,
Bassmaster's, Field and Stream, Modern Marvels, and all the other
magizines, or TV shows, so why would anyone give y'all any credit ?

Hell, I don't care if y'all think it's the "best" soft plastic rigging,
I just can't have you putting on news groups it is a gimmick, or snake
oil, and not defend it, as many search the Internet on new products, so
you put it down, I will tell the truth afterwards. Stop putting it down
and I stop telling people the truth (on this group).





--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney June 10th, 2005 05:31 PM

go-bassn wrote:
Rodney stop talking? lol- It'll never happen! We'll just wait around
another 3 years for his snakeoil to take the fishing world by storm, and
when it doesn't he'll come out with the third (or is it 4th?) version of his
underwear elastic & he'll say "this is the one folks!".


Total A-Hole from the get go, My God man, how many times do I have to
prove your the fool ?




--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

go-bassn June 10th, 2005 05:36 PM

LMAO!

People pay $30 for a crankbait but "few would pay 11 dollars for three of
them..."

No respect! Ant to think, this is the be-all end-all fishing rig of
all-time...

Warren ;-)




"Rodney" wrote in message
...
Chris Rennert wrote:

Once again, you say you have never been beaten ... Please bring that
unbeaten streak here. Put it to the test on someone elses home waters
and prove us all wrong. I don't care if it is Wisconsin, Penn., New
York, Florida, Tenn. I just don't care. Just stop talking and prove
it against one of us.


Now that's funny

What would that gain me ?

I've taken on real pro's, Out door writers, TV producers and real CEO's
of lure companies. I've got the top names in fishing that it has been
proved to. The only reason it has not already taken over, is due to the
way it was marketed,, few would pay 11 dollars for three of them.

Look, y'all don't believe Bill Dance, Al Linder, Ray Scott, Hank Parker,
Bassmaster's, Field and Stream, Modern Marvels, and all the other
magizines, or TV shows, so why would anyone give y'all any credit ?

Hell, I don't care if y'all think it's the "best" soft plastic rigging,
I just can't have you putting on news groups it is a gimmick, or snake
oil, and not defend it, as many search the Internet on new products, so
you put it down, I will tell the truth afterwards. Stop putting it down
and I stop telling people the truth (on this group).





--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com




go-bassn June 10th, 2005 05:37 PM

Steve, hasn't the wave hit Canada yet? Everyone here in the states is using
them...

Hope you're well pal!

Warren

"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
...
Warren, he has been perfecting a wax for years for those who like to put a
high polish on turds! I hear it hardly takes him any time at all =8^) a
good hot breath and a run across the surface of his shirtsleeve and VIOLA!
Shiniest turd you ever saw!
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Rodney stop talking? lol- It'll never happen! We'll just wait around
another 3 years for his snakeoil to take the fishing world by storm, and
when it doesn't he'll come out with the third (or is it 4th?) version of

his
underwear elastic & he'll say "this is the one folks!".

Basically, any way you size it up, a turd is a turd...

Warren







Chris Rennert June 10th, 2005 05:46 PM

Rodney wrote:
Chris Rennert wrote:

Once again, you say you have never been beaten ... Please bring that
unbeaten streak here. Put it to the test on someone elses home waters
and prove us all wrong. I don't care if it is Wisconsin, Penn., New
York, Florida, Tenn. I just don't care. Just stop talking and prove
it against one of us.



Now that's funny

What would that gain me ?

I've taken on real pro's, Out door writers, TV producers and real CEO's
of lure companies. I've got the top names in fishing that it has been
proved to. The only reason it has not already taken over, is due to the
way it was marketed,, few would pay 11 dollars for three of them.

Look, y'all don't believe Bill Dance, Al Linder, Ray Scott, Hank Parker,
Bassmaster's, Field and Stream, Modern Marvels, and all the other
magizines, or TV shows, so why would anyone give y'all any credit ?

Hell, I don't care if y'all think it's the "best" soft plastic rigging,
I just can't have you putting on news groups it is a gimmick, or snake
oil, and not defend it, as many search the Internet on new products, so
you put it down, I will tell the truth afterwards. Stop putting it down
and I stop telling people the truth (on this group).





Exactly, you know how bad it would hurt your product when it was exposed
for what it is. I guarantee you wouldn't beat me out of my boat. I'll
give you the bow and the trolling motor. Hell, I won't fish for the
first hour. You think name dropping means anything to anyone here?????
Any one of those guys would endorse your rig if paid enough, that is
what they do for a living.
Prove it on the water, that is all I am saying. I don't want to hear
all these names you keep brining up. I have been watching them since I
was a little kid. I KNOW THEY KNOW HOW TO FISH. It means absolutely
nothing that they can catch fish on your rig. Most of those guys can
catch fish on almost any rig in certain circumstances. It still doesn't
back up your claims. Bring it on Rodney!

Chris

Charles B. Summers June 10th, 2005 06:50 PM

I see you are taking over where I left off Chris. Rodney WILL NOT COME TO
ANY OF THE ROFB EVENTS. I've tried that approach to no avail...

Why? Because he knows as well as we do that he is nothing but marketing...
and a pretty bad example of that too!

He don't care about little ole anglers such as ourselves... he's got Bill,
Orlando, Ray and the rest of them to stroke his fur.


"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
Rodney wrote:
Chris Rennert wrote:

Once again, you say you have never been beaten ... Please bring that
unbeaten streak here. Put it to the test on someone elses home waters
and prove us all wrong. I don't care if it is Wisconsin, Penn., New
York, Florida, Tenn. I just don't care. Just stop talking and prove
it against one of us.



Now that's funny

What would that gain me ?

I've taken on real pro's, Out door writers, TV producers and real CEO's
of lure companies. I've got the top names in fishing that it has been
proved to. The only reason it has not already taken over, is due to the
way it was marketed,, few would pay 11 dollars for three of them.

Look, y'all don't believe Bill Dance, Al Linder, Ray Scott, Hank Parker,
Bassmaster's, Field and Stream, Modern Marvels, and all the other
magizines, or TV shows, so why would anyone give y'all any credit ?

Hell, I don't care if y'all think it's the "best" soft plastic rigging, I
just can't have you putting on news groups it is a gimmick, or snake oil,
and not defend it, as many search the Internet on new products, so you
put it down, I will tell the truth afterwards. Stop putting it down and I
stop telling people the truth (on this group).





Exactly, you know how bad it would hurt your product when it was exposed
for what it is. I guarantee you wouldn't beat me out of my boat. I'll
give you the bow and the trolling motor. Hell, I won't fish for the first
hour. You think name dropping means anything to anyone here????? Any one
of those guys would endorse your rig if paid enough, that is what they do
for a living.
Prove it on the water, that is all I am saying. I don't want to hear all
these names you keep brining up. I have been watching them since I was a
little kid. I KNOW THEY KNOW HOW TO FISH. It means absolutely nothing
that they can catch fish on your rig. Most of those guys can catch fish
on almost any rig in certain circumstances. It still doesn't back up your
claims. Bring it on Rodney!

Chris




go-bassn June 10th, 2005 06:50 PM

You wanna prove I'm a fool? Outfish me with your rubberband.

Warren

"Rodney" wrote in message
...
go-bassn wrote:
Rodney stop talking? lol- It'll never happen! We'll just wait around
another 3 years for his snakeoil to take the fishing world by storm, and
when it doesn't he'll come out with the third (or is it 4th?) version of

his
underwear elastic & he'll say "this is the one folks!".


Total A-Hole from the get go, My God man, how many times do I have to
prove your the fool ?




--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com




Chris Rennert June 10th, 2005 07:03 PM

Charles B. Summers wrote:
I see you are taking over where I left off Chris. Rodney WILL NOT COME TO
ANY OF THE ROFB EVENTS. I've tried that approach to no avail...

Why? Because he knows as well as we do that he is nothing but marketing...
and a pretty bad example of that too!

He don't care about little ole anglers such as ourselves... he's got Bill,
Orlando, Ray and the rest of them to stroke his fur.


"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .

Rodney wrote:

Chris Rennert wrote:


Once again, you say you have never been beaten ... Please bring that
unbeaten streak here. Put it to the test on someone elses home waters
and prove us all wrong. I don't care if it is Wisconsin, Penn., New
York, Florida, Tenn. I just don't care. Just stop talking and prove
it against one of us.


Now that's funny

What would that gain me ?

I've taken on real pro's, Out door writers, TV producers and real CEO's
of lure companies. I've got the top names in fishing that it has been
proved to. The only reason it has not already taken over, is due to the
way it was marketed,, few would pay 11 dollars for three of them.

Look, y'all don't believe Bill Dance, Al Linder, Ray Scott, Hank Parker,
Bassmaster's, Field and Stream, Modern Marvels, and all the other
magizines, or TV shows, so why would anyone give y'all any credit ?

Hell, I don't care if y'all think it's the "best" soft plastic rigging, I
just can't have you putting on news groups it is a gimmick, or snake oil,
and not defend it, as many search the Internet on new products, so you
put it down, I will tell the truth afterwards. Stop putting it down and I
stop telling people the truth (on this group).






Exactly, you know how bad it would hurt your product when it was exposed
for what it is. I guarantee you wouldn't beat me out of my boat. I'll
give you the bow and the trolling motor. Hell, I won't fish for the first
hour. You think name dropping means anything to anyone here????? Any one
of those guys would endorse your rig if paid enough, that is what they do
for a living.
Prove it on the water, that is all I am saying. I don't want to hear all
these names you keep brining up. I have been watching them since I was a
little kid. I KNOW THEY KNOW HOW TO FISH. It means absolutely nothing
that they can catch fish on your rig. Most of those guys can catch fish
on almost any rig in certain circumstances. It still doesn't back up your
claims. Bring it on Rodney!

Chris




:-)..........Charles, it is pretty much wishful thinking on my part. It
is just insulting that someone can think that 14+ years of learning on
my part can all be thrown out the window because of a rubberband.

Well, I better get back to work.

Rodney June 10th, 2005 07:22 PM

go-bassn wrote:
You wanna prove I'm a fool? Outfish me with your rubberband.

Warren


You would be unarmed,

What would that really prove, I out fished a fool? big deal.

You have already been made the fool calling my other stuff snake oil,
and they are selling like crazy, and catching fish like crazy, you said
they were worthless. Hell my hook was the "only" hook listed in Bass
Pro's spring flier. Man I'm glad I didn't take your advice, and just
forgot it, cause it was just a bent hook. You keep giving advice like
that and your going to go far in this industry

ROTFLMAO
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Steve & Chris Clark June 10th, 2005 07:57 PM

We just got the "Pocket fisherman" up here last year, with the "Bettle-spin"
and the "Marabou bass buster jig"! To tell the truth if I had to have one
rig it would be a jig with some hair or plastic on it. I'm too old to give
a crap about some tosser sellin' fishin' gear, what was he, a Fuller Brush
man? I'm well enough to know BS when I see it! And thanks for askin" ! I
do know that marketing is about catching fish! I think he knows it too!
--
Steve



Seismo June 10th, 2005 08:02 PM

I've been very tempted to respond to this thread but this e-mail
finally pulled me in.
Rodney - I don't know you, and I don't know anything about your
product. To be honest, I thought that some of the other guys might've
been a little harsh in their reaction to it. However, anyone that would
post an e-mail like this (and through the power of google - will be
archived for the world to see 'til the end of the internet as we know
it) deserves no one's respect, and no one's business.
If anyone ever asks me about your products, I will tell them that they
should look up this thread via googlegroups and decide if this is the
kind of person they want to give money to.


go-bassn June 10th, 2005 08:18 PM

So you're declining my challenge, correct?

Warren

"Rodney" wrote in message
...
go-bassn wrote:
You wanna prove I'm a fool? Outfish me with your rubberband.

Warren


You would be unarmed,

What would that really prove, I out fished a fool? big deal.

You have already been made the fool calling my other stuff snake oil,
and they are selling like crazy, and catching fish like crazy, you said
they were worthless. Hell my hook was the "only" hook listed in Bass
Pro's spring flier. Man I'm glad I didn't take your advice, and just
forgot it, cause it was just a bent hook. You keep giving advice like
that and your going to go far in this industry

ROTFLMAO
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com




go-bassn June 10th, 2005 08:20 PM

I've issued an open challenge to Rodney, to outfish an amateur like me.
Wanna bet he avoids me?

LMAO

Warren

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
Charles B. Summers wrote:
I see you are taking over where I left off Chris. Rodney WILL NOT COME

TO
ANY OF THE ROFB EVENTS. I've tried that approach to no avail...

Why? Because he knows as well as we do that he is nothing but

marketing...
and a pretty bad example of that too!

He don't care about little ole anglers such as ourselves... he's got

Bill,
Orlando, Ray and the rest of them to stroke his fur.


"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .

Rodney wrote:

Chris Rennert wrote:


Once again, you say you have never been beaten ... Please bring that
unbeaten streak here. Put it to the test on someone elses home waters
and prove us all wrong. I don't care if it is Wisconsin, Penn., New
York, Florida, Tenn. I just don't care. Just stop talking and prove
it against one of us.


Now that's funny

What would that gain me ?

I've taken on real pro's, Out door writers, TV producers and real

CEO's
of lure companies. I've got the top names in fishing that it has been
proved to. The only reason it has not already taken over, is due to

the
way it was marketed,, few would pay 11 dollars for three of them.

Look, y'all don't believe Bill Dance, Al Linder, Ray Scott, Hank

Parker,
Bassmaster's, Field and Stream, Modern Marvels, and all the other
magizines, or TV shows, so why would anyone give y'all any credit ?

Hell, I don't care if y'all think it's the "best" soft plastic rigging,

I
just can't have you putting on news groups it is a gimmick, or snake

oil,
and not defend it, as many search the Internet on new products, so you
put it down, I will tell the truth afterwards. Stop putting it down and

I
stop telling people the truth (on this group).






Exactly, you know how bad it would hurt your product when it was exposed
for what it is. I guarantee you wouldn't beat me out of my boat. I'll
give you the bow and the trolling motor. Hell, I won't fish for the

first
hour. You think name dropping means anything to anyone here????? Any

one
of those guys would endorse your rig if paid enough, that is what they

do
for a living.
Prove it on the water, that is all I am saying. I don't want to hear

all
these names you keep brining up. I have been watching them since I was

a
little kid. I KNOW THEY KNOW HOW TO FISH. It means absolutely nothing
that they can catch fish on your rig. Most of those guys can catch fish
on almost any rig in certain circumstances. It still doesn't back up

your
claims. Bring it on Rodney!

Chris




:-)..........Charles, it is pretty much wishful thinking on my part. It
is just insulting that someone can think that 14+ years of learning on
my part can all be thrown out the window because of a rubberband.

Well, I better get back to work.




go-bassn June 10th, 2005 08:20 PM

Funny how you come here to read a fool's posts every day lol...

Warren

"Rodney" wrote in message
...
go-bassn wrote:
You wanna prove I'm a fool? Outfish me with your rubberband.

Warren


You would be unarmed,

What would that really prove, I out fished a fool? big deal.

You have already been made the fool calling my other stuff snake oil,
and they are selling like crazy, and catching fish like crazy, you said
they were worthless. Hell my hook was the "only" hook listed in Bass
Pro's spring flier. Man I'm glad I didn't take your advice, and just
forgot it, cause it was just a bent hook. You keep giving advice like
that and your going to go far in this industry

ROTFLMAO
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com




Ken Fortenberry June 10th, 2005 08:39 PM

Seismo wrote:
I've been very tempted to respond to this thread but this e-mail
finally pulled me in.
Rodney - I don't know you, and I don't know anything about your
product. To be honest, I thought that some of the other guys might've
been a little harsh in their reaction to it. However, anyone that would
post an e-mail like this (and through the power of google - will be
archived for the world to see 'til the end of the internet as we know
it) deserves no one's respect, and no one's business.


Well, a few observations of my own. First Rodney didn't post
an email, he posted to a Usenet newsgroup. Second, it's not
necessarily the case that his post has to be archived forever.
A lot of people use the X-noarchive option on their posts and
Google respects it.

And lastly Rodney in general. You know, ****ing contests and
trading insults aside, almost everybody who makes their living
from their "inventions" is a shameless, some would say obnoxious,
self-promoter. I don't see a whole lot of difference between
Rodney and Roland Martin except for the ****ing contests and
trading insults here on rofb.

Anyway, there's my two cents and it's worth at least half that. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

David Norton June 10th, 2005 10:29 PM

It amazes me that you guys keep feeding this guy! I sit here day after day
convinced Rodney could not sell sno-cones in hell. There is an old saying,
" It is better to be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all
doubt" Another is " If the shoe fits wear it!"

--
David Norton

"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
...
We just got the "Pocket fisherman" up here last year, with the
"Bettle-spin"
and the "Marabou bass buster jig"! To tell the truth if I had to have
one
rig it would be a jig with some hair or plastic on it. I'm too old to
give
a crap about some tosser sellin' fishin' gear, what was he, a Fuller Brush
man? I'm well enough to know BS when I see it! And thanks for askin" !
I
do know that marketing is about catching fish! I think he knows it too!
--
Steve





Henry Hefner June 11th, 2005 12:27 AM

At least Al was amusing.


Henry Hefner June 11th, 2005 12:32 AM



Ken Fortenberry wrote:
..... it's not necessarily the case that his post has to be archived forever.
A lot of people use the X-noarchive option on their posts and
Google respects it.....


But there are plenty of us out here that don't try to hide behind
crutches like that. We say what we mean and don't mind that people can
read the archives. We also quote those other's posts, so they WILL live
on forever.


Ken Fortenberry June 11th, 2005 12:57 AM

Henry Hefner wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
..... it's not necessarily the case that his post has to be archived forever.
A lot of people use the X-noarchive option on their posts and
Google respects it.....


But there are plenty of us out here that don't try to hide behind
crutches like that. We say what we mean and don't mind that people can
read the archives. We also quote those other's posts, so they WILL live
on forever.


I didn't mean to suggest that Rodney doesn't allow his
posts to be archived. In fact, a quick check of Google
shows that Rodney's most recent posts will live on in
Google perpetuity. I was just trying to make the point
that perhaps Rodney's contributions to the fishing tackle
industry shouldn't be judged solely on his abysmal lack
of Usenet social skills on rofb.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Rodney June 11th, 2005 01:48 AM

David Norton wrote:
It amazes me that you guys keep feeding this guy! I sit here day after day
convinced Rodney could not sell sno-cones in hell. There is an old saying,
" It is better to be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all
doubt" Another is " If the shoe fits wear it!"


In other words someone could blast your day job and how you do it on
this news group and you would never respond or defend yourself ?

I spend hundreds of hours working and testing my tackle, when some one
tells the "world" that it's all B.S. without even testing it,, yes I get
mad as hell. I could care less what he personally thinks about my stuff,
but acting as some kind of expert, and then bashing it

At one point on this group I offered "free" stuff
Warren came on here and told everyone that sent for it was a fool.

What the hell was he "afraid" of ? He was afraid that he would loose his
credibility.

I'm not here trying to sell anything, I'm here trying to inform people
of new ways to fish, more productive ways, ways that no one on here
knows how to do, and that is the big killer for Warren, he can't figure
out how my stuff works, and if he has not used it it and approves it,
then no one on the board should use it.

I could easily explain "How" I use these rigs to catch fish, but way
back when I was trying to do that, I was called a spammer. I was
forbidden by the elite few here from discussing catching fish with them,
as each time I did I was spamming. I have found out it is "who" you are,
not what your pushing, that is important to this group.

It's OK to flame anyone here, but don't let them defend themselves
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com


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