TR Strange happening on the CT River
 

I just got returned from a weeklong trip to the Upper CT River in
Pittsburg, NH. Weather started off hot and humid, but soon turned cold
and stormy. Air temps after Tuesday struggled to hit 50 degrees and
heavy rain showers were frequent. I have been fishing this area for a
long time, so I came equiped for anything, and wasn't disappointed.
Actually, Monday, the second day, was quite good. BWO's began hatching
around mid morning followed by Sulphurs in the afternoon, with a decent
spinner fall at dusk. I managed about 20 trout ranging from 9" to 14"
and 5 salmon from 12" to 14", most on dries with a few on a #18 PT
Nymph.

Then the heavens opened up and the freakin' A/C went on maximum
overdrive. The water level steadily climed from an ideal 150 CFS on
Monday, to 200 on Tuesday, all the way to 400 on Wednesday, but
remained clear. Fishing became....umm...challenging, but not
impossible. I caught fish every day, employing the use of heavily
weighted flies and tungsten putty. The highlight came on Wednesday when
I hooked and landed a three pound brookie in really high water.

Then came Thursday. Water still at 400, raining like hell, air temp at
50. I had come up with a rig that was proving effective in the high
water....a tandem rig with a weighted Conehead Wooly Bugger as the
"main" fly, with a smaller "fly du jour" as the point fly. At one point
I had an SJ worm on as the point fly, and was dredging bottom, when I
had a hard hit. I set the hook and felt the unmistakeable throbbing
head shake of a heavy fish. As I applied pressure, he ran about 50'
downstream, and sulked on the bottom. I was able to slowly gain line to
the point where he had moved back to approximately the point where I
hooked him. At this point, it looked like I might actually land him, no
small feat under these conditions, (following him was not an option in
the high water), and my second really big fish in as many days. Just
then, I felt a drag on the line, as if the fish had hung me up on a
snag. I fed him some slack, hoping he'd free himself, (it's worked for
me before), but no go this time. When I applied pressure to him again,
he bolted downstream, taking me into my backing, and continuing to run,
while I still could feel the drag. At this point, I conceded defeat,
pointed the rod at him, and snubbed the line. He broke off immediately,
but as I reeled in the now slack line, I felt movement on the other
end. Could he still be on? I'm not that lucky. What was on the other
end was a 10" rainbow, who had eaten the Wooly Bugger, apparently while
the larger fish was hooked on the SJ Worm. What was the big fish? Hard
to say. My guess was another big brookie, but with the water that high,
it could have been a big brown or a laker up from Lake Francis. Anyhow,
that's the sort of thing that keeps me going back to that area each
June. Some years, like last year, are pretty mundane. Perfect water
conditions, hatches every day, and large quantities of average fish.
But every now and then, the water level comes up and strange things
happen.

BTW, any of you guys have stories about doubles?

George Adams wrote:
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BTW, any of you guys have stories about doubles?

Well, there was that time with the Koslowski twins. . . ;-)

Sounds like you had a good time, George. You deserve it. BTW, I'm
thinking of spending a few of my Father's Day points tomorrow afternoon
just north of the Rt. 9 bridge. Maybe I'll see you there.
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

I notice, that for som reason, the flow on the Swift was *increased* by
about 90 CFS about four days ago, and is once again dropping at
glacial speed. On the graph, the flow went up in a straight line, so
the only explanation I can think of is that they are releasing more
water from the bottom. Why? Who knows? Maybe they feel that by
releasing more water now, overall it will come back to normal faster.

Anyhow, I might sneak out for a bit tomorrow, but I've got to tell you
I'm more than a little tired of fishing high water, and my daughter
Diane closed on a house Wednesday, and is in the process of moving, so
I may glean a few more Father's Day points and help her for a while.

Just as an aside, the area I where I stayed in NH, received about 3.5"
of rain while I was there, but some other areas not far to the south
got 10.5" in the same period. Lots of black and blue dots in the north
country on the USGS map.

"George Adams" wrote

But every now and then, the water level comes up and strange things
happen.

that one was indeed strange.

BTW, any of you guys have stories about doubles?

earlier this spring, i caught two small bass simultaneously on one
standard rapala. one on the front set of hooks, one on the back.

yfitons
wayno

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in news:1Wdte.29840$td.1833549
@twister.southeast.rr.com:

earlier this spring, i caught two small bass simultaneously on one
standard rapala. one on the front set of hooks, one on the back.

....please tell me that was a deer hair rapala wayno...don't ruin my image
of you... ;-)

Frank Church
....who gave all his hardware chunkin' stuff away...

George Adams wrote:

You had a great day, George.


BTW, any of you guys have stories about doubles?


Most of the doubles I've hooked have either broken off or thrown the hook.

My coolest memory was one of the few I actually landed. I had on a dry
and dropper and a smallish Rainbow grabbed the dry and when I got it
in close, it ran under a boulder just downstream from me. I pulled it
out from under the rock and out shot a nice Brown. The Brown was VERY
agitated and chased the smaller fish around. It reminded me of the way
that smallmouth will sometimes followed a hooked fish up to the surface.
I let the smaller fish swim around (it was too big for the Brown to try
and eat) to see what the Brown would do. The Brown spotted the dropper,
took it and was hooked. All this happened about three feet away and
it was very interesting to watch. The two fish fighting together or
against one another, were very tough to land.

Willi

George Adams wrote:
snip
Anyhow, I might sneak out for a bit tomorrow, but I've got to tell you
I'm more than a little tired of fishing high water...

You should have been there, George. More fun than watching Kevin chained
to Liz Hurley. ;-) I landed two beautiful 'bows, the first on the
second or third cast before I ever entered the water, and the next
shortly after. Used the skittering caddis trick Gary taught me. Played
with brookies the rest of the few hours I had free.

Great fun - wish you were there.
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

Tim J. wrote:
George Adams wrote:
snip
Anyhow, I might sneak out for a bit tomorrow, but I've got to tell you
I'm more than a little tired of fishing high water...

You should have been there, George. More fun than watching Kevin chained
to Liz Hurley. ;-) I landed two beautiful 'bows, the first on the
second or third cast before I ever entered the water, and the next
shortly after. Used the skittering caddis trick Gary taught me. Played
with brookies the rest of the few hours I had free.

Great fun - wish you were there.
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

Sounds like fun. I finished unpacking and reorganized my fishing stuff,
then helped my daughter for a while. Were you fishing above rte 9? I
may go to the Farmington on Friday as I still have a little time
coming. Water level looks good, and Sulphurs should be on. Hopefully
will hit the Swift over the weekend, hoping the water will be down
another 50 CFS or so. Maybe see you there?

George Adams wrote:
Tim J. wrote:
George Adams wrote:
snip
Anyhow, I might sneak out for a bit tomorrow, but I've got to tell
you I'm more than a little tired of fishing high water...

You should have been there, George. More fun than watching Kevin
chained to Liz Hurley. ;-) I landed two beautiful 'bows, the first
on the second or third cast before I ever entered the water, and the
next shortly after. Used the skittering caddis trick Gary taught me.
Played with brookies the rest of the few hours I had free.

Sounds like fun. I finished unpacking and reorganized my fishing
stuff, then helped my daughter for a while. Were you fishing above
rte 9? I may go to the Farmington on Friday as I still have a little
time coming. Water level looks good, and Sulphurs should be on.
Hopefully will hit the Swift over the weekend, hoping the water will
be down another 50 CFS or so. Maybe see you there?

Taking this to email to leave more bandwidth for the Nawth Cakalacky
ping system. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:40:14 -0400, "Tim J."
wrote:

(snipped)

Taking this to email to leave more bandwidth for the Nawth Cakalacky
ping system. ;-)


Speaking of pings, what has happened to snakefiddler? If she's gone
away and not coming back, that's interesting to me in a curiosity sort
of way.

I know I'm not an ordinary person, but why am I the only woman who's
managed to get on here and stay around for more than a few months?
Have the rest, except for snake, been cross dressers doing a few posts
for fun? The New Zealand woman (who I think was a real person) never
came back. Poodles Fly (I think that was it) wasn't around long. I
think there were a couple of others in the years I've been reading
here.



Cyli
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Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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Cyli wrote:

Speaking of pings, what has happened to snakefiddler? If she's gone
away and not coming back, that's interesting to me in a curiosity sort
of way.

I know I'm not an ordinary person, but why am I the only woman who's
managed to get on here and stay around for more than a few months?
Have the rest, except for snake, been cross dressers doing a few posts
for fun? The New Zealand woman (who I think was a real person) never
came back. Poodles Fly (I think that was it) wasn't around long. I
think there were a couple of others in the years I've been reading
here.

We seem to be rebrobate males. I can't explain it. My guess is that
women flyfishers are too mature and sophisticated to put up with all the
crap.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Cyli wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:40:14 -0400, "Tim J."
wrote:

(snipped)

Taking this to email to leave more bandwidth for the Nawth Cakalacky
ping system. ;-)

Speaking of pings, what has happened to snakefiddler? If she's gone
away and not coming back, that's interesting to me in a curiosity sort
of way.

It's all Forty's fault! ;-) While I enjoyed having Ms. Fiddler in our
midst, she tripped several bull**** detectors along her journey that
made her seem pretentious. I don't think she is (and I hope she's
reading this); just stating appearances. In roff, once someone calls you
for bull****, it's better to admit the lapse (not apologize, mind you)
than to continue the battle. The dust was just settling when she
disappeared, and hopefully she'll be back.

I know I'm not an ordinary person, but why am I the only woman who's
managed to get on here and stay around for more than a few months?

You are one of the most honest and open people to ever have posted on
roff, and you ignore most of the horse**** being thrown throughout this
place. Oh, and not being "ordinary" helps. ;-)

Have the rest, except for snake, been cross dressers doing a few posts
for fun? The New Zealand woman (who I think was a real person) never
came back.

That was Jo. She seemed a good sort, too.

Poodles Fly (I think that was it) wasn't around long. I
think there were a couple of others in the years I've been reading
here.

I doubt many women hang around in rough saloons either, but they don't
know what they're missing. Quite a lesson in human nature, wot?

Hey, snake! If you are reading this, consider yourself pinged.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

Tim J. wrote:
Cyli wrote:
Speaking of pings, what has happened to snakefiddler? ...

It's all Forty's fault! ;-) ...

I think it was more a matter of her having a very short
attention span.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Cyli" wrote in message
Speaking of pings, what has happened to snakefiddler? If she's gone
away and not coming back, that's interesting to me in a curiosity sort
of way.

Maybe she got caught by the crocodile hunter.
-tom

Cyli wrote:

Speaking of pings, what has happened to snakefiddler? If she's gone
away and not coming back, that's interesting to me in a curiosity sort
of way.
...

She is (or was) in college, so my guesses would be:
the campus server is near capacity and newsgroups are low priority (happened
here; I only got a couple posts a day until they installed the new server)
she graduated and no longer has "free" high-speed access
she is too damn busy with her dissertation, grant, etc to spend any more
time here

Whatever the reason, I bet we haven't seen the last of her.

--
Rusty Hook
Laramie, Wyoming

"Rusty Hook" wrote in message
...
Cyli wrote:

Speaking of pings, what has happened to snakefiddler? If she's gone
away and not coming back, that's interesting to me in a curiosity sort
of way.
...

She is (or was) in college, so my guesses would be:
the campus server is near capacity and newsgroups are low priority
(happened here; I only got a couple posts a day until they installed the
new server)
she graduated and no longer has "free" high-speed access
she is too damn busy with her dissertation, grant, etc to spend any more
time here

Whatever the reason, I bet we haven't seen the last of her.

--
Rusty Hook

She's still around. I bumped into her the other day near the student union.
I assume she is takin' Summer classes, as she had a book-bag with her and
appeared to be heading to a class. She said her SO was havin' some medical
issues, so I imagine she'll be around, when not occupied by more important
things.

Mark

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:46:37 GMT, rw
wrote:
(snipped)

We seem to be rebrobate males. I can't explain it. My guess is that
women flyfishers are too mature and sophisticated to put up with all the
crap.

Could be. Maybe it's because I was brought up in a era when male
chauvinists were not just accepted, but expected to be the norm. And,
had the term male chauvinist been around, no one would have added the
word pigs to it. Not that this group exactly qualifies as MCPs. I
think most of you have outgrown most of it if you ever tended to it.
Or I am so inured to it that it doesn't get to me.

A few years ago one of the younger women I know ranted on for a long
time about how the guy running the paintball business handed her a
pistol and said, "Lock and load, little lady." I cannot imagine me
taking umbrage at that. I regarded that as some sort of (terms cut
out here) attitude with feminist chauvinist tendencies. I'd played
paintball there a several times a few years earlier. The owners were
farmers and it was rural Wisconsin. Not exactly a place where they'd
have catered to delicate female sensibilities of the modern big city
woman.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:03:03 -0400, "Tim J."
wrote:

Cyli wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:40:14 -0400, "Tim J."
wrote:

(snipped)

Taking this to email to leave more bandwidth for the Nawth Cakalacky
ping system. ;-)

Speaking of pings, what has happened to snakefiddler? If she's gone
away and not coming back, that's interesting to me in a curiosity sort
of way.

It's all Forty's fault! ;-) While I enjoyed having Ms. Fiddler in our
midst, she tripped several bull**** detectors along her journey that
made her seem pretentious. I don't think she is (and I hope she's
reading this); just stating appearances. In roff, once someone calls you
for bull****, it's better to admit the lapse (not apologize, mind you)
than to continue the battle. The dust was just settling when she
disappeared, and hopefully she'll be back.

Yeah, she made some false steps at the start and tripped one or two of
my detectors, too, but she was fun and she seemed to really like fly
fishing a lot.

I know I'm not an ordinary person, but why am I the only woman who's
managed to get on here and stay around for more than a few months?

You are one of the most honest and open people to ever have posted on
roff, and you ignore most of the horse**** being thrown throughout this
place. Oh, and not being "ordinary" helps. ;-)

Uh, thanks.

Have the rest, except for snake, been cross dressers doing a few posts
for fun? The New Zealand woman (who I think was a real person) never
came back.

That was Jo. She seemed a good sort, too.


I doubt many women hang around in rough saloons either, but they don't
know what they're missing. Quite a lesson in human nature, wot?

The best way for a woman to hang out in saloons and not become a bar
bitch is to work there. Sometimes not even that helps, but it does
keep an arm's distance if one doesn't step into the depths.

Hey, snake! If you are reading this, consider yourself pinged.


Cyli
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Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:08:46 -0600, "Rusty Hook"
wrote:

Cyli wrote:

Speaking of pings, what has happened to snakefiddler? If she's gone
away and not coming back, that's interesting to me in a curiosity sort
of way.
...

She is (or was) in college, so my guesses would be:
the campus server is near capacity and newsgroups are low priority (happened
here; I only got a couple posts a day until they installed the new server)
she graduated and no longer has "free" high-speed access
she is too damn busy with her dissertation, grant, etc to spend any more
time here

Whatever the reason, I bet we haven't seen the last of her.


Sounds reasonable. I had somewhat the same thoughts, but she'd
usually study hard and then come back for a while.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:37:14 -0400, "Guyz-N-Flyz"
wrote:


"Rusty Hook" wrote in message
...
Cyli wrote:

Speaking of pings, what has happened to snakefiddler? If she's gone
away and not coming back, that's interesting to me in a curiosity sort
of way.
...

She is (or was) in college, so my guesses would be:
the campus server is near capacity and newsgroups are low priority
(happened here; I only got a couple posts a day until they installed the
new server)
she graduated and no longer has "free" high-speed access
she is too damn busy with her dissertation, grant, etc to spend any more
time here

Whatever the reason, I bet we haven't seen the last of her.

--
Rusty Hook

She's still around. I bumped into her the other day near the student union.
I assume she is takin' Summer classes, as she had a book-bag with her and
appeared to be heading to a class. She said her SO was havin' some medical
issues, so I imagine she'll be around, when not occupied by more important
things.

Mark

Now that sounds quite reasonable. Mention to her that we've been
talking about her behind her back and see if that gets her back sooner
(does in the crowd of real life people I hang out with). And I hope
her SO gets better soon.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
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