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Jaboo June 20th, 2005 09:59 PM

Colorado Springs Fishing Recommendations
 
I'm going to Colorado Springs in a couple of weeks so that my wife can
visit with one of her college friends. The husband was interested in
trying out some fly fishing. He's never been, and I've only fished
sections of the White River in Arkansas. So, I'm not familiar with the
waters in Colorado. We're only going for one day, and I'm not sure how
serious about fly fishing he is. Otherwise I would suggest that we
split the cost of hiring a guide. I was hoping that someone here might
be able to suggest some sections of wadable water within a reasonable
distance of Colorado Springs we should try out, or maybe you can point
out a good fly shop to go to. I'm certain I'll need to stock up on a
few local patterns, and the other guy is going to need to rent some
waders for a day. Thanks for any suggestions.


Wayne Knight June 20th, 2005 10:31 PM



Jaboo wrote:
I'm going to Colorado Springs in a couple of weeks so that my wife can
visit with one of her college friends. The husband was interested in
trying out some fly fishing. He's never been, and I've only fished
sections of the White River in Arkansas. So, I'm not familiar with the
waters in Colorado.


South Platte near Deckers CO.

Flyshop and guides: http://www.thepeakflyshop.com


Wayne Harrison June 20th, 2005 11:19 PM


"Jaboo" wrote

Thanks for any suggestions.

consider a "handle" change. the only other time i have seen or heard
that name was when my uncle john laid the same moniker on his pet
chimpanzee, back in 1959.

my cousin darius had to punch him (the chimp, not his dad) out with a
shovel to keep him from murdering his mother.

hth

wayno




Ken Fortenberry June 20th, 2005 11:23 PM

Wayne Harrison wrote:
"Jaboo" wrote
Thanks for any suggestions.

consider a "handle" change. the only other time i have seen or heard
that name was when my uncle john laid the same moniker on his pet
chimpanzee, back in 1959.

my cousin darius had to punch him (the chimp, not his dad) out with a
shovel to keep him from murdering his mother.

hth


Wasn't Jaboo the name of the voodoo deity in charge of baseball
bats in the movie "Major League" ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

Rusty Hook June 21st, 2005 12:36 AM

Jaboo wrote:
I'm going to Colorado Springs in a couple of weeks so that my wife can
visit with one of her college friends. The husband was interested in
trying out some fly fishing. He's never been, and I've only fished
sections of the White River in Arkansas. So, I'm not familiar with the
waters in Colorado.


Wayne Knight wrote:
South Platte near Deckers CO.


Deckers is a great place to go if you're lonely, as you will be in the
company of a LOT of other anglers.

If you are already as far south as Colorado Springs, I would suggest the
Arkansas River. There is lots of access, it is further from Denver, and, if
you must, you can float fish it from a guided drift boat. OTOH, it is
pretty good for do-it-yourself wade fishing as well. Any fly shop in Colo
Springs should be able to give you more specific info (flies, locations,
etc). By the time you get there, spring runoff should be over, or nearly
so.

If your friend is new to fishing, you might want to ask about some of the
area's small streams, too. The fish are usually (but not always) smaller,
but can be easier to catch. High lakes can be an especially good place to
take a beginner, also.

Have fun,

--
Rusty Hook
Laramie, Wyoming




Willi June 21st, 2005 01:00 AM

Wayne Harrison wrote:
"Jaboo" wrote

Thanks for any suggestions.

consider a "handle" change. the only other time i have seen or heard
that name was when my uncle john laid the same moniker on his pet
chimpanzee, back in 1959.

my cousin darius had to punch him (the chimp, not his dad) out with a
shovel to keep him from murdering his mother.

hth

wayno





That's just a mite too strange even coming from a Tarheel!

Willi


Tim J. June 21st, 2005 02:31 AM

Wayne Harrison wrote:
"Jaboo" wrote

Thanks for any suggestions.

consider a "handle" change. the only other time i have seen or
heard that name was when my uncle john laid the same moniker on his
pet chimpanzee, back in 1959.

my cousin darius had to punch him (the chimp, not his dad) out
with a shovel to keep him from murdering his mother.


Now *there* is some info I would have bet good money on never being
posted in roff. . . or anywhere else, for that matter. 'Gives the
"Curious George" series new meaning.
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/



Wayne Harrison June 21st, 2005 04:08 AM


"Willi" wrote
(snip)

That's just a mite too strange even coming from a Tarheel!



that's "tar heel". two words. just getting things right. :)

yfitons
wayno



Willi June 21st, 2005 04:31 AM

Wayne Harrison wrote:
"Willi" wrote
(snip)

That's just a mite too strange even coming from a Tarheel!




that's "tar heel". two words. just getting things right. :)

yfitons
wayno




Where did "tar heel" come from. (I know I could Google it, but I figure
might as well ask one.)

Willi


beausdad June 21st, 2005 10:14 AM


"Willi" wrote in message
...

Where did "tar heel" come from. (I know I could Google it, but I figure
might as well ask one.)

Willi


Carolina students are too poor to afford both a basketball and a pair of Air
Jordan's, so the shoes had to go.

Mark



DaveMohnsen June 21st, 2005 12:37 PM


"Jaboo" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm going to Colorado Springs in a couple of weeks so that my wife can
visit with one of her college friends. The husband was interested in
trying out some fly fishing. He's never been, and I've only fished
sections of the White River in Arkansas. So, I'm not familiar with the
waters in Colorado.


Hi Jaboo,
Colorado Springs:
A few thoughts.
Fly Shop: Angler's Covey. Apparently they have just moved. I used to teach
fly fishing stuff with them some years ago.
Places To Fish:
The South Platte below Elevenmile Reservoir or Chessman Canyon below that
Reservoir.
My choice would be Elevenmile. We are in what is called runoff out here,
with the snow melting off the mountains. You would be only an hour or so
from either place. Cheesman canyon requires a bit of a hike.
Both may get you clearer water.
In either place you will get some fun scenery.
Ya don't have to basically hike much at all at Elevenmile, other than
wandering around up and down the river.
DaveMohnsen
Denver
( uhh . . . if the first tiime out here . . . maybe a guide . . . half day)



Wayne Harrison June 21st, 2005 01:14 PM


"Willi" wrote

Where did "tar heel" come from. (I know I could Google it, but I figure
might as well ask one.)


afaik, there are two explanations, both anecdotal. the most popular
attributes various observations by any number of generals, up to and
including lee himself, that the north carolinians stood so steady under fire
that they must have tar on their heels. then, there is the tale from the
revolutionary war that british soldiers complained of picking up tar on
their feet every time they crossed the piney woods rivers in the eastern
part of the state.
both these legends have a common origin, which is the most likely
authentic source of the nickname: the early economy of the state depended
on the production of resin, turpentine, and tar from the plentiful pine
forests in the eastern part of the state. those who worked in such an
industry would constantly be covered from head to toe in the gooey
substances. these folks were usually poor country boys. during the civil
war, the patrician virginians would refer to north carolinians, derisively,
as "tar heels".

just another service provided by little wayno's trout shop and trivia
center. as you know, our motto is, "we never close".

yfitons
wayno



Charlie Choc June 21st, 2005 01:17 PM

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:14:55 GMT, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:


"Willi" wrote

Where did "tar heel" come from. (I know I could Google it, but I figure
might as well ask one.)


afaik, there are two explanations, both anecdotal. the most popular
attributes various observations by any number of generals, up to and
including lee himself, that the north carolinians stood so steady under fire
that they must have tar on their heels. then, there is the tale from the
revolutionary war that british soldiers complained of picking up tar on
their feet every time they crossed the piney woods rivers in the eastern
part of the state.
both these legends have a common origin, which is the most likely
authentic source of the nickname: the early economy of the state depended
on the production of resin, turpentine, and tar from the plentiful pine
forests in the eastern part of the state. those who worked in such an
industry would constantly be covered from head to toe in the gooey
substances. these folks were usually poor country boys. during the civil
war, the patrician virginians would refer to north carolinians, derisively,
as "tar heels".

just another service provided by little wayno's trout shop and trivia
center. as you know, our motto is, "we never close".

And here all this time I thought it referred to all the mounds of old tires
around the state, pronounced locally as "tar heels". g
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

Wayne Harrison June 21st, 2005 01:24 PM


"Charlie Choc" wrote


And here all this time I thought it referred to all the mounds of old
tires
around the state, pronounced locally as "tar heels". g


pretty damned funny, coming from a "jayhawk"... :)

yfitons
wayno (now where the hell did they get *that* from?)



Charlie Choc June 21st, 2005 02:12 PM

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:24:13 GMT, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:


"Charlie Choc" wrote


And here all this time I thought it referred to all the mounds of old
tires
around the state, pronounced locally as "tar heels". g


pretty damned funny, coming from a "jayhawk"... :)

yfitons
wayno (now where the hell did they get *that* from?)

Beats me, but I was born in Cicero, Ill. I'm not sure what they even call people
from Illinois, but people from my neighborhood there were called bohunks, and
not always in a nice way. g
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

William Claspy June 21st, 2005 02:16 PM

On 6/21/05 9:12 AM, in article ,
"Charlie Choc" wrote:

I'm not sure what they even call
people
from Illinois


Unfortunate?

:-)

B


Charlie Choc June 21st, 2005 02:18 PM

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:16:08 -0400, William Claspy wrote:

On 6/21/05 9:12 AM, in article ,
"Charlie Choc" wrote:

I'm not sure what they even call
people
from Illinois


Unfortunate?

:-)

That's for people *in* Illinois. g
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

Jaboo June 21st, 2005 03:31 PM

Well, since I've received such good info from you guys, and since I'm
originally from North Carolina, not Arkansas, I'll give you a link that
provides a few stories concerning the origin of the term "Tar Heel".
This comes from the News & Observer:
http://www.newsobserver.com/nie/curr...-7378182c.html


Willi June 21st, 2005 10:43 PM

Charlie Choc wrote:


Beats me, but I was born in Cicero, Ill. I'm not sure what they even call people
from Illinois, but people from my neighborhood there were called bohunks, and
not always in a nice way. g


Now you're talkin' my language. Chitown "culture". I'm part "Bohunk"
part "Kraut."

One of the few things I miss about Chicago is the excellent food you can
get in little hole in the wall restaurants in the various ethnic
neighborhoods.

Willi




Charlie Choc June 21st, 2005 10:45 PM

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:43:34 -0600, Willi wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:


Beats me, but I was born in Cicero, Ill. I'm not sure what they even call people
from Illinois, but people from my neighborhood there were called bohunks, and
not always in a nice way. g


Now you're talkin' my language. Chitown "culture". I'm part "Bohunk"
part "Kraut."

One of the few things I miss about Chicago is the excellent food you can
get in little hole in the wall restaurants in the various ethnic
neighborhoods.

And the bakeries.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

Cyli June 22nd, 2005 12:20 PM

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:12:21 -0400, Charlie Choc
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:24:13 GMT, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:


"Charlie Choc" wrote


And here all this time I thought it referred to all the mounds of old
tires
around the state, pronounced locally as "tar heels". g


pretty damned funny, coming from a "jayhawk"... :)

yfitons
wayno (now where the hell did they get *that* from?)

Beats me, but I was born in Cicero, Ill. I'm not sure what they even call people
from Illinois, but people from my neighborhood there were called bohunks, and
not always in a nice way. g



I know there were ex-servicemen turned outlaw after the Civil War who
where called Jayhawks. Now I have to go to Google. I'll be right
back...............

Aha. Outlaws were called that _pre_ Civil War. During the war a
group from the state went to service under that nickname. It is
believed that they got the original name by confabulating two birds,
the jay (notorious camp robber bird) and the hawk, which swoops
suddenly on prey. That's from only one Google reference. Just read
enough to satisfy my own curiosity. If you want more, Google's there
for you.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

wilson4445 June 22nd, 2005 04:10 PM



Jaboo wrote:
I'm going to Colorado Springs in a couple of weeks so that my wife can
visit with one of her college friends. The husband was interested in
trying out some fly fishing. He's never been, and I've only fished
sections of the White River in Arkansas. So, I'm not familiar with the
waters in Colorado. We're only going for one day, and I'm not sure how
serious about fly fishing he is. Otherwise I would suggest that we
split the cost of hiring a guide. I was hoping that someone here might
be able to suggest some sections of wadable water within a reasonable
distance of Colorado Springs we should try out, or maybe you can point
out a good fly shop to go to. I'm certain I'll need to stock up on a
few local patterns, and the other guy is going to need to rent some
waders for a day. Thanks for any suggestions.



wilson4445 June 22nd, 2005 04:15 PM

Jaboo:
Try coloradofishing.net to start. Look online for Nichols Reservoir
State Park: Directions from Colorado Springs: Travel west on Highway 24
approximately 18 miles to Woodland Park. At the stoplight immediately
before the McDonald's turn right. Travel on this road (Baldwin -Rampart
Range Road) passed the schools around a corner to an intersection with
Forest Road 300. Turn right on to 300 and follow signs to the
reservoir. Park in the Dikeside Boat Ramp parking and follow trail 709
to Nichols Reservoir.

And try Angler's Covey 800-753-4746 917 W. Colorado Ave. COLORADO
SPRINGS 80905

Buzz in Centennial


Willi June 25th, 2005 06:11 PM

Charlie Choc wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:43:34 -0600, Willi wrote:


Charlie Choc wrote:


Beats me, but I was born in Cicero, Ill. I'm not sure what they even call people
from Illinois, but people from my neighborhood there were called bohunks, and
not always in a nice way. g


Now you're talkin' my language. Chitown "culture". I'm part "Bohunk"
part "Kraut."

One of the few things I miss about Chicago is the excellent food you can
get in little hole in the wall restaurants in the various ethnic
neighborhoods.


And the bakeries.



Agreed. Last time "home" I had a Hoska. MMMMMM

Willi



Charlie Choc June 25th, 2005 07:30 PM

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:11:12 -0600, Willi wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:43:34 -0600, Willi wrote:


Charlie Choc wrote:


Beats me, but I was born in Cicero, Ill. I'm not sure what they even call people
from Illinois, but people from my neighborhood there were called bohunks, and
not always in a nice way. g

Now you're talkin' my language. Chitown "culture". I'm part "Bohunk"
part "Kraut."

One of the few things I miss about Chicago is the excellent food you can
get in little hole in the wall restaurants in the various ethnic
neighborhoods.


And the bakeries.



Agreed. Last time "home" I had a Hoska. MMMMMM

I always gravitate towards the kolache. g
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

Willi June 28th, 2005 01:00 AM

Charlie Choc wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:11:12 -0600, Willi wrote:


Charlie Choc wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:43:34 -0600, Willi wrote:



Charlie Choc wrote:


Beats me, but I was born in Cicero, Ill. I'm not sure what they even call people

from Illinois, but people from my neighborhood there were called bohunks, and

not always in a nice way. g

Now you're talkin' my language. Chitown "culture". I'm part "Bohunk"
part "Kraut."

One of the few things I miss about Chicago is the excellent food you can
get in little hole in the wall restaurants in the various ethnic
neighborhoods.


And the bakeries.



Agreed. Last time "home" I had a Hoska. MMMMMM


I always gravitate towards the kolache. g


Had a plum and an apricot one at a family run Bohemian
restaurant.

I like hoska for breakfast lightly toasted.

Willi





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