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Olle Lundin June 22nd, 2005 07:52 PM

dye maggots
 
what do you use when you dye maggots (red)?

/Olle

Phil L June 22nd, 2005 11:44 PM

Olle Lundin wrote:
:: what do you use when you dye maggots (red)?

In Britain we buy them already coloured, most tackle shops have an
assortment of colours, red, yellow, orange, green, bronze etc...it's just
food colourings added to the rotten meat that they are grown on and the
maggots turn that colour - I suppose you could colour them yourself in much
the same way, just get some food colourings (cake making shops have them and
some supermarkets) and add a few drops to some damp bread and put it in the
maggot box, another method is to use blackcurrant cordial.
For yellow maggots use ordinary tumeric which is used in making curries,
both these will also add a bit of flavour too.

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Olle Lundin June 23rd, 2005 05:48 AM

Phil L wrote:
Olle Lundin wrote:
:: what do you use when you dye maggots (red)?

In Britain we buy them already coloured, most tackle shops have an
assortment of colours, red, yellow, orange, green, bronze etc...it's just
food colourings added to the rotten meat that they are grown on and the
maggots turn that colour - I suppose you could colour them yourself in much
the same way, just get some food colourings (cake making shops have them and
some supermarkets) and add a few drops to some damp bread and put it in the
maggot box, another method is to use blackcurrant cordial.
For yellow maggots use ordinary tumeric which is used in making curries,
both these will also add a bit of flavour too.

I can buy coloured maggots from the tackla shop too but it costs to
much. The methods you mention won't it just dye the maggots on the outside?


/Olle

Derek.Moody June 23rd, 2005 11:37 AM

In article , Olle Lundin
wrote:
Phil L wrote:
Olle Lundin wrote:
:: what do you use when you dye maggots (red)?


I can buy coloured maggots from the tackla shop too but it costs to
much. The methods you mention won't it just dye the maggots on the outside?


Unless you breed and grow your own maggots you are stuck. To get the colour
inside you must feed it to them as they grow. It -is- possible to dye full
grown maggots but not without killing them.

Why do you need coloured maggots? At this time of year most larger fish
will take something else and maggots pupate very quickly so your bait might
not last the whole of a long session.

Cheerio,

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Phil L June 23rd, 2005 02:01 PM

Olle Lundin wrote:
:: Phil L wrote:
::: Olle Lundin wrote:
::::: what do you use when you dye maggots (red)?
:::
::: In Britain we buy them already coloured, most tackle shops have an
::: assortment of colours, red, yellow, orange, green, bronze
::: etc...it's just food colourings added to the rotten meat that
::: they are grown on and the maggots turn that colour - I suppose
::: you could colour them yourself in much the same way, just get
::: some food colourings (cake making shops have them and some
::: supermarkets) and add a few drops to some damp bread and put it
::: in the maggot box, another method is to use blackcurrant cordial.
::: For yellow maggots use ordinary tumeric which is used in making
::: curries, both these will also add a bit of flavour too.
:::
:: I can buy coloured maggots from the tackla shop too but it costs to
:: much. The methods you mention won't it just dye the maggots on the
:: outside?


Our maggots are about 3 Euros per half litre and this is in any colour, I've
never tried to colour them myself because they are so cheap, personally I
prefer natural (just plain white) maggots as this is a more natural bait, IE
something that wild fish would eat occasionally when carrion floats to the
surface and becomes home to millions of fly larvae.

As Derek said, you will have to get rotten meat and add food colouring to do
it properly, but the methods I mentioned would give you a tinge of colour.


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If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs.



Ged June 23rd, 2005 02:47 PM

Can fish distinguish colours ?



"Phil L" wrote in message
k...
Olle Lundin wrote:
:: Phil L wrote:
::: Olle Lundin wrote:
::::: what do you use when you dye maggots (red)?
:::
::: In Britain we buy them already coloured, most tackle shops have an
::: assortment of colours, red, yellow, orange, green, bronze
::: etc...it's just food colourings added to the rotten meat that
::: they are grown on and the maggots turn that colour - I suppose
::: you could colour them yourself in much the same way, just get
::: some food colourings (cake making shops have them and some
::: supermarkets) and add a few drops to some damp bread and put it
::: in the maggot box, another method is to use blackcurrant cordial.
::: For yellow maggots use ordinary tumeric which is used in making
::: curries, both these will also add a bit of flavour too.
:::
:: I can buy coloured maggots from the tackla shop too but it costs to
:: much. The methods you mention won't it just dye the maggots on the
:: outside?


Our maggots are about 3 Euros per half litre and this is in any colour,
I've
never tried to colour them myself because they are so cheap, personally I
prefer natural (just plain white) maggots as this is a more natural bait,
IE
something that wild fish would eat occasionally when carrion floats to the
surface and becomes home to millions of fly larvae.

As Derek said, you will have to get rotten meat and add food colouring to
do
it properly, but the methods I mentioned would give you a tinge of colour.


--
If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs.





Derek.Moody June 23rd, 2005 06:05 PM

In article , Ged
wrote:
Can fish distinguish colours ?


Some can, not all.

Cheerio,

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Ged June 23rd, 2005 07:01 PM

Which fish can distinguish colours then ?


"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
...
In article , Ged
wrote:
Can fish distinguish colours ?


Some can, not all.

Cheerio,

--





Ergo June 23rd, 2005 07:42 PM

FFS the ones that aren't colour blind ;)

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Updated 29/03/05
"Ged" wrote in message
...
Which fish can distinguish colours then ?


"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
...
In article , Ged
wrote:
Can fish distinguish colours ?


Some can, not all.

Cheerio,

--







Phil L June 23rd, 2005 10:24 PM

Ged wrote:
:: Which fish can distinguish colours then ?

No one really knows, it's still widely thought that dogs only see in black
and white, fish are way down on the list of scientists' research on eyes.
Personally I beleive that most animals can see all colours perfectly well,
pretty similar to us, trout and salmon are examples of this, ask any fly
fisherman if all flies are just the same regardless of colour.

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If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs.



Ged June 24th, 2005 09:06 AM

I agree, fish must have pretty good eyesight as you never see any in
Specsavers do you ?


"Phil L" wrote in message
. uk...
Ged wrote:
:: Which fish can distinguish colours then ?

No one really knows, it's still widely thought that dogs only see in black
and white, fish are way down on the list of scientists' research on eyes.
Personally I beleive that most animals can see all colours perfectly well,
pretty similar to us, trout and salmon are examples of this, ask any fly
fisherman if all flies are just the same regardless of colour.

--
If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs.





Steve Walker June 24th, 2005 11:18 AM

In message , Derek.Moody
writes
In article , Olle Lundin
wrote:
Phil L wrote:
Olle Lundin wrote:
:: what do you use when you dye maggots (red)?


I can buy coloured maggots from the tackla shop too but it costs to
much. The methods you mention won't it just dye the maggots on the outside?


Unless you breed and grow your own maggots you are stuck. To get the colour
inside you must feed it to them as they grow. It -is- possible to dye full
grown maggots but not without killing them.


Are all maggot dyes internal now then? ISTR that chrysodine (before it
was banned) was applied externally to full-grown maggots, but others
like annatto were fed.

--
Steve Walker

Olle Lundin June 28th, 2005 06:33 AM

Phil L wrote:
Olle Lundin wrote:
:: Phil L wrote:
::: Olle Lundin wrote:
::::: what do you use when you dye maggots (red)?
:::
::: In Britain we buy them already coloured, most tackle shops have an
::: assortment of colours, red, yellow, orange, green, bronze
::: etc...it's just food colourings added to the rotten meat that
::: they are grown on and the maggots turn that colour - I suppose
::: you could colour them yourself in much the same way, just get
::: some food colourings (cake making shops have them and some
::: supermarkets) and add a few drops to some damp bread and put it
::: in the maggot box, another method is to use blackcurrant cordial.
::: For yellow maggots use ordinary tumeric which is used in making
::: curries, both these will also add a bit of flavour too.
:::
:: I can buy coloured maggots from the tackla shop too but it costs to
:: much. The methods you mention won't it just dye the maggots on the
:: outside?


Our maggots are about 3 Euros per half litre and this is in any colour, I've
never tried to colour them myself because they are so cheap, personally I
prefer natural (just plain white) maggots as this is a more natural bait, IE
something that wild fish would eat occasionally when carrion floats to the
surface and becomes home to millions of fly larvae.

As Derek said, you will have to get rotten meat and add food colouring to do
it properly, but the methods I mentioned would give you a tinge of colour.



thats pretty cheap, I pay almost 11 euros per half litre when I buy them
directly from the guy who breeds them, if I buy them from the tackle
shop I pay more....


/Olle

Andi Plaster June 28th, 2005 04:46 PM

Olle,

My local tackle shop closed, so I have a go at breeding them myself &
couldn't believe how easy & non smelly it was, let alone cheap !!!

I put a very basic web page together as I had loads of mates asking about it
over here in Ireland - hope it helps..

http://www.andiplaster.utvinternet.com/maggots.htm


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