Hook and Sinker Truly Captures ROFB
 

It looks like hook and sinker has managed to capture all of ROFB in its
own proprietary seeming website. Interesting.

Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com


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Bob La Londe wrote in
:


It looks like hook and sinker has managed to capture all of ROFB in its
own proprietary seeming website. Interesting.

Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



Yeah, and they list all of the usenet threads as their own, as well. I
think a fair thing to do would be to email their advertisers, if they ever
get any, and let them know how the site traffic is being misrepresented.

Scott

Scott Seidman wrote in
. 1.4:

Bob La Londe wrote in
:


It looks like hook and sinker has managed to capture all of ROFB in
its own proprietary seeming website. Interesting.

Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



Yeah, and they list all of the usenet threads as their own, as well.
I think a fair thing to do would be to email their advertisers, if
they ever get any, and let them know how the site traffic is being
misrepresented.

Scott

This is getting cooler and cooler!! The contact address for advertising
inquiries is

Scott

Scott Seidman Wrote:
Scott Seidman wrote in
. 1.4:

Bob La Londe wrote in
:


It looks like hook and sinker has managed to capture all of ROFB in
its own proprietary seeming website. Interesting.

Bob La Londe
'http://www.YumaBassMan.com' (http://www.yumabassman.com/)



Yeah, and they list all of the usenet threads as their own, as well.
I think a fair thing to do would be to email their advertisers, if
they ever get any, and let them know how the site traffic is being
misrepresented.

Scott

This is getting cooler and cooler!! The contact address for advertising
inquiries is

Scott

If you knew what you were talking about you would know that site
traffic is not generated from legally pully posts from usenets. If you
look through the past posts We posted letting everyone on the
newsgroups know that we had setup things up, but no one cared to hear
it.


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Bob La Londe Wrote:
It looks like hook and sinker has managed to capture all of ROFB in its
own proprietary seeming website. Interesting.

Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com

So what are you trying to say Bob, that you are jealous because we
offer this for free to people? Actually it's not an exact replica,
notice all the spam messages are filtered out. Hmmm. And did you notice
the comment on the front page when you clicked to register? Maybe you
should take a look again.


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Yellowchaser- http://www.hookandsinker.com - The Sportfishermen's choice for fishing news, over 500+ maps, over 7,000+ schematics, and even these newsgroups are available online!

Bob La Londe Wrote:
It looks like hook and sinker has managed to capture all of ROFB in its
own proprietary seeming website. Interesting.

Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com

Funny how you make those accusations when ROFB site even has the goggle
newsgroup search engine code on the site. Where do you think that
search engine pulls from? can you post from google groups? or read from
google groups? hmm I think you can.


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Yellowchaser- http://www.hookandsinker.com - The Sportfishermen's choice for fishing news, over 500+ maps, over 7,000+ schematics, and even these newsgroups are available online!

Scott Seidman Wrote:
Scott Seidman wrote in
. 1.4:

Bob La Londe wrote in
:


It looks like hook and sinker has managed to capture all of ROFB in
its own proprietary seeming website. Interesting.

Bob La Londe
'http://www.YumaBassMan.com' (http://www.yumabassman.com/)



Yeah, and they list all of the usenet threads as their own, as well.
I think a fair thing to do would be to email their advertisers, if
they ever get any, and let them know how the site traffic is being
misrepresented.

Scott

This is getting cooler and cooler!! The contact address for advertising
inquiries is

Scott
Scott you really should know what you are talking about before you try
to put your two useless cents in. False claims can be hazardous,
especially when you post them in open forums. They make you liable for
what comes out of that hole in your face.


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Yellowchaser- http://www.hookandsinker.com - The Sportfishermen's choice for fishing news, over 500+ maps, over 7,000+ schematics, and even these newsgroups are available online!

Yellowchaser wrote in
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If you knew what you were talking about you would know that site
traffic is not generated from legally pully posts from usenets. If you
look through the past posts We posted letting everyone on the
newsgroups know that we had setup things up, but no one cared to hear
it.




So, when I click your "Advertising" link, and see the part that says "We
have a large amount of traffic generated from our popular message boards.
The chart below is for a 30-day period, as you can see we average a very
high number of new posts every day that people just keep coming back for!
You can benefit from this by advertising in the forums. Your ad could be
displayed in over a ½ million topics right now! And ever time a new thread
is posted your ad is automatically added!", and then look at the diagram
below that shows an average of about 300 posts per day to "your popular
message boards" for theperiod between May 23 and Jun 21, that means that
all those posts were generated through your site???

Cause if this isn't the case, you're MISREPRESENTING your site traffic to
your advertisers. Correct me if I'm wrong about the new posts originating
from outside your site.

Hopefully, any ads tagged onto usenet posts will stay on your site. If I
see ads bubbling through to usenet, I will report this to your server host.

Scott

Yellowchaser wrote in
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Scott you really should know what you are talking about before you try
to put your two useless cents in. False claims can be hazardous,
especially when you post them in open forums. They make you liable for
what comes out of that hole in your face.


Are you telling me that you're not the advertising contact for
hookandsinker.com??

Look, yellow-- If you spam the freely accessible usenet groups you're
providing a web portal from, be prepared to have to strip out all the crap
that generates.

Scott

Yellowchaser wrote in
:

If you
look through the past posts We posted letting everyone on the
newsgroups know that we had setup things up, but no one cared to hear
it.


Are you talking about this?

http://groups-
beta.google.com/group/rec.outdoors.fishing.bass/browse_frm/thread/c3f4903
9e14de054/e02caddd58782eca?q=hookandsinker+group:*.bass&rnum =1
&hl=en#e02caddd58782eca

I must have missed the part where you said you would be providing a
usenet web portal without identifying it as such, and telling advertisers
about it in such a way that usenet traffic appears to be attributed to
your site.

I don't care what sort of VALID stuff gets posted to the usenet through
your site, so long as its not the kind of crap that Fishman was posting
(extending you the courtesy for the moment of not assuming that you ARE
Fishman, or that Fishman works for or with you in some way--This crap
didn't come from a normal user, who would have to be absolutely insane to
use a web portal interface to post bulk usenet messages!!). I don't even
care if you claim copyright to the Bible to your advertisers.

I do care if the groups I frequent get filled up by crap to the point of
being useless. This is what every group would look like if other people
who had the idea of profiting to a targeted group of usenet readers using
a free medium actually went and implemented it. I also care that you're
claiming MY usenet activity as a hook into your advertisers.

Your site generated about 50 useless messages from somebody else's RSS
feed (yeah, HE'S absolutely thrilled about it!!), and you haven't
apologized, either to him or to other readers--claims of not being
responsible for the crap posted through your site notwithstanding.
You've got ****loads of nerve complaining about all the negative feedback
this has generated, especially as it's raising your hits off the chart.
You've also got all sorts of nerve telling me my claims can be hazardous!
I've looked at your advertising description, and you're claiming that
usenet posts are somehow related to traffic on your site. It's not true.
There could be billions of posts, without ever having a single visitor to
your site. Suggesting anything else to your advertisers is wrong.

Here's some other little gems from your website's advertising link:
"Hook & Sinker® provides you with your own web interface to monitor your
ad campaign(s) with unbelievable detail, including Hourly Times, IP
Addresses, Adviews, Origin Country, CTR, and more. Take control over your
investment and see how your personalized ad campaign is working for you!
Ask some of our competitors how they provide you with a real-time
solution to monitor your advertising campaign and likely they will not
have a clue what you are talking about. You will have your own secure
sign-in to our Exclusive! Advertising Management System."

No wonder why you don't have a privacy statement!!

Long and the short of it is, nobody would have anything to say if crap
weren't spewing from your site.

Scott

Why don't you just stop spamming this newgroup? no one want to read your
bs.

"Yellowchaser" wrote in
message ...
look through the past posts We posted letting everyone on the
newsgroups know that we had setup things up, but no one cared to hear

I missed that post... care to provide a google link to it?

"Yellowchaser" wrote in
message ...

Scott you really should know what you are talking about before you try
to put your two useless cents in. False claims can be hazardous,
especially when you post them in open forums. They make you liable for
what comes out of that hole in your face.

Threat? You need to learn more legal mumbo jumbo before posting worthless
commment in Usenet. I'll give you a good one... if you ever get advertisers
on your site, _I will_ be contacting them to let them know the forums from
your site are nothing more then usenet posts... which you fail to admit to.

Remove your commercial crap from ROFB.

"Yellowchaser" wrote in
message ...

Bob La Londe Wrote:
It looks like hook and sinker has managed to capture all of ROFB in its
own proprietary seeming website. Interesting.

Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com

So what are you trying to say Bob, that you are jealous because we
offer this for free to people? Actually it's not an exact replica,
notice all the spam messages are filtered out. Hmmm. And did you notice
the comment on the front page when you clicked to register? Maybe you
should take a look again.



This one?

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LOL

Yeah I have read it three time now. Twice before I registered just to make
sure of what it said.


--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

"Yellowchaser" wrote in
message ...

So what are you trying to say Bob, that you are jealous because we
offer this for free to people? Actually it's not an exact replica,
notice all the spam messages are filtered out. Hmmm. And did you notice
the comment on the front page when you clicked to register? Maybe you
should take a look again.

Why should he be jealous? Google has been doing it for year. But they don't
try to mislead people into thinking _they_ provided the content.

Again, you mean you filter out the spam crap that _comes from your own
site_. Your just trying to blow smoke and make us think your providing some
magical content on your site when your doing nothing more then stealing it
from Usenet and hiding this fact. Dispite what you thing, we are smarter
then you give us credit for.

"Yellowchaser" wrote in
message ...

Funny how you make those accusations when ROFB site even has the goggle
newsgroup search engine code on the site. Where do you think that
search engine pulls from? can you post from google groups? or read from
google groups? hmm I think you can.

Man, your realy trying _hard_ to hide the issue that your trying to make
your forum content look like it's your own. A google seavch engine is _no
where near_ harvesting posts from Usenet. Get a clue!

"Yellowchaser" wrote in
message ...

SNIP


Why not just tell visitors to your site what it is? A usenet portal. Your
site misleads by its very design to appear like a forum. I didn't research
all your advertising claims like others have, but if true then you are
misleading potential clients at the very least, and possibly committing
fraud. Not for me to determine. Perhaps you should ask your attorney.

Now here is a suggestion for you. Add ABPF to your portal with a long
retention period. Then you would be providing a service for all those
usenet users who have servers that don't carry binaries. Of course that
could quickly eat up your bandwidth and storage, but atleast you would truly
be doing something new and useful for a few people.

--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

"Yellowchaser" wrote in
message ...

SNIP


Why not just tell visitors to your site what it is? A usenet portal. Your
site misleads by its very design to appear like a forum. I didn't research
all your advertising claims like others have, but if true then you are
misleading potential clients at the very least, and possibly committing
fraud. Not for me to determine. Perhaps you should ask your attorney.

Now here is a suggestion for you. Add ABPF to your portal with a long
retention period. Then you would be providing a service for all those
usenet users who have servers that don't carry binaries. Of course that
could quickly eat up your bandwidth and storage, but atleast you would truly
be doing something new and useful for a few people.

--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

"Yellowchaser" wrote in
message ...

SNIP


Why not just tell visitors to your site what it is? A usenet portal. Your
site misleads by its very design to appear like a forum. I didn't research
all your advertising claims like others have, but if true then you are
misleading potential clients at the very least, and possibly committing
fraud. Not for me to determine. Perhaps you should ask your attorney.

Now here is a suggestion for you. Add ABPF to your portal with a long
retention period. Then you would be providing a service for all those
usenet users who have servers that don't carry binaries. Of course that
could quickly eat up your bandwidth and storage, but atleast you would truly
be doing something new and useful for a few people.

--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

Oh I'm so scared.. boohoo

Obviously your not

waaa screw you

Like i said idiot read the home page, or can't you read

I visited this site, what galled me was their claim that I "might" need to
"purchase" membership to view certain forums. What idiot would try to charge
for the right to read public content! All these guys & their so called
advertisers need to do is read this NG's Usenet charter. I for one will
gladly report any abuse generated from their website or any of their
so-called advertisers.

--
David Norton

"Todd Copeland" wrote in message
link.net...
"Yellowchaser" wrote in
message ...

Funny how you make those accusations when ROFB site even has the goggle
newsgroup search engine code on the site. Where do you think that
search engine pulls from? can you post from google groups? or read from
google groups? hmm I think you can.

Man, your realy trying _hard_ to hide the issue that your trying to make
your forum content look like it's your own. A google seavch engine is _no
where near_ harvesting posts from Usenet. Get a clue!

And here's another idiot that can't read... hahaha There only on forum
in our whole site that requires a membership and that is the Captains
Club, and that sir is a private forum for just our site. So how about
trying reading things again before you automatically ASSume.

But thanks for keeping things going, I've had like 40 people join in
the last hour :)

Uhh I'll report any abuse cause I am a big fisher man.. haha You sound
like a 5 year old that threatens to take his toys and run home to
mommy. Bet you had fun as a child huh.

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:56:25 +0000, Yellowchaser
wrote:

PLONK

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.brooklynbillstackleshop.com
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

On 27 Jun 2005 16:25:58 -0700, wrote:

DOUBLE PLONK

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.brooklynbillstackleshop.com
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

Ya know Jeff, you remind me of a wet-behind the ears 19 year old year old
..Who has just discovered Dreamweaver.For someone who states that this forum
is not listed on your site,you sure are making a nuisance of yourself
here.And just like Elite Torrents.com you will eventually get busted for
stealing or plagiarizing original content.

As I said before the posting guidelines are only for use internally on this
NG,I highly suggest you look up and learn the charter by which this NG was
founded.
Back to lurking again!

--
David Norton

wrote in message
oups.com...
Uhh I'll report any abuse cause I am a big fisher man.. haha You sound
like a 5 year old that threatens to take his toys and run home to
mommy. Bet you had fun as a child huh.