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TheBassMan July 25th, 2005 09:14 PM

The Scent of Your Bait
 
Hello fellow angler,

Just wanted to share an impornat piece of advice that had recently
smacked me in the face.

Most of you are probably well aware that the scent of your bait can
give it a large advantage, especially in situations where there's a lot
of other anglers on the lake.

However, you must also make sure that you boat doesn't reek of GAS.
This just happened to me. I was to lazy about cleaning some gas out of
my boat, and then I suddenly realized I hadn't hooked any pass for the
whole morning.

Then it hit me, the boat was laden with gas odor and undoubtedly, the
bait took on some of it. So, if you're having some unusually poor
results, check that there isn't any gas vapor etc. in the boat, as the
bass don't like it one bit.

Be chatting again soon,
Cory Friedman

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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers July 25th, 2005 09:32 PM


"TheBassMan" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hello fellow angler,

Just wanted to share an impornat piece of advice that had recently
smacked me in the face.

Most of you are probably well aware that the scent of your bait can
give it a large advantage, especially in situations where there's a lot
of other anglers on the lake.

However, you must also make sure that you boat doesn't reek of GAS.
This just happened to me. I was to lazy about cleaning some gas out of
my boat, and then I suddenly realized I hadn't hooked any pass for the
whole morning.

Then it hit me, the boat was laden with gas odor and undoubtedly, the
bait took on some of it. So, if you're having some unusually poor
results, check that there isn't any gas vapor etc. in the boat, as the
bass don't like it one bit.

Be chatting again soon,
Cory Friedman


I'm sure that RichZ will argue that point with you. I feel that scent is
fairly low on the scale of attractiveness to bass. However, with many
anglers, it is a confidence factor and that is HUGE.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Rich P July 25th, 2005 09:53 PM

Scent may have little to do with attracting a strike, but I think it can
help you keep a bait in the bass' mouth longer. I use Mega-Strike most of
the time and I'd swear it makes the fish hold my soft plastics longer. I
believe I catch more bass because of it. Maybe not, but it can't hurt and
it's not real expensive. One $7 tube lasts all season and so far since I've
started using it I've been in the money 4 out of the past 5 tournaments I've
fished in my club. I'm a believer.

Rich P


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"TheBassMan" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hello fellow angler,

Just wanted to share an impornat piece of advice that had recently
smacked me in the face.

Most of you are probably well aware that the scent of your bait can
give it a large advantage, especially in situations where there's a lot
of other anglers on the lake.

However, you must also make sure that you boat doesn't reek of GAS.
This just happened to me. I was to lazy about cleaning some gas out of
my boat, and then I suddenly realized I hadn't hooked any pass for the
whole morning.

Then it hit me, the boat was laden with gas odor and undoubtedly, the
bait took on some of it. So, if you're having some unusually poor
results, check that there isn't any gas vapor etc. in the boat, as the
bass don't like it one bit.

Be chatting again soon,
Cory Friedman


I'm sure that RichZ will argue that point with you. I feel that scent is
fairly low on the scale of attractiveness to bass. However, with many
anglers, it is a confidence factor and that is HUGE.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com




Steve & Chris Clark July 26th, 2005 12:22 AM

I must agree with that Rich, it is not an attractant but a savoury sauce,
and salt is present with any creature that has blood. Enough ketch-up can
make even the worst armadillobok meatloaf a veritable delecasee!
(Curly of the three stooges says)
--
Steve

Rich P" wrote in message
...
Scent may have little to do with attracting a strike, but I think it can
help you keep a bait in the bass' mouth longer. I use Mega-Strike most of
the time and I'd swear it makes the fish hold my soft plastics longer. I
believe I catch more bass because of it. Maybe not, but it can't hurt and
it's not real expensive. One $7 tube lasts all season and so far since

I've
started using it I've been in the money 4 out of the past 5 tournaments

I've
fished in my club. I'm a believer.

Rich P


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"TheBassMan" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hello fellow angler,

Just wanted to share an impornat piece of advice that had recently
smacked me in the face.

Most of you are probably well aware that the scent of your bait can
give it a large advantage, especially in situations where there's a lot
of other anglers on the lake.

However, you must also make sure that you boat doesn't reek of GAS.
This just happened to me. I was to lazy about cleaning some gas out of
my boat, and then I suddenly realized I hadn't hooked any pass for the
whole morning.

Then it hit me, the boat was laden with gas odor and undoubtedly, the
bait took on some of it. So, if you're having some unusually poor
results, check that there isn't any gas vapor etc. in the boat, as the
bass don't like it one bit.

Be chatting again soon,
Cory Friedman


I'm sure that RichZ will argue that point with you. I feel that scent

is
fairly low on the scale of attractiveness to bass. However, with many
anglers, it is a confidence factor and that is HUGE.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com






RichZ July 26th, 2005 01:38 AM

Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:


I'm sure that RichZ will argue that point with you.


Nope. I've given up arguing that point. If people want to spend money
and effort on it, it's no skin off my back, and I'm not wasting any more
of my time thinking about it. Except my one time reply to RichP in the
next message in this thread.G

RichZ July 26th, 2005 02:00 AM

Rich P wrote:
Maybe not, but it can't hurt...


Sorry to come down on you Rich, but I've just read this rationale one
too many times. Exactly how do you know that it can't hurt?

alwaysfishking July 26th, 2005 03:49 AM


This would be to say that all fish have exactly the same behavior when it
comes to scent color etc. Hard to believe. I do use scents, Dip and glow
garlic, have I noticed a difference, yup, could it work against me... yup.
What fish like one day they might not like the next. IMO



Marty July 26th, 2005 05:54 AM


"Rich P" wrote in message
...
I believe I catch more bass because of it. Maybe not, but it can't hurt


I won't go into the gory details, because I did that a couple of years ago
and was shot down by a prominent member of this forum, however, I'm 99.9%
convinced that on one occasion the scent I was using (Baitmate crawfish)
actually repelled the bass.



Rich P July 26th, 2005 01:48 PM

My reply to Rich Z, I don't know for sure. What I do know is that my
numbers seem to have gone up since I started using it. What I also know is
that when other guys are struggling to avoid getting skunked I'm putting my
3rd or 4th fish in the live-well. Maybe I'm just getting better at finding
them? Maybe my presentation has improved recently? But I've been
slathering my Senkos in Mega-Strike for almost a year and my stats have
improved markedly. I can't say I'm ready to stop using it just yet.
That said, I don't know what a fish can taste or smell and how that
affects things for sure. I would not be surprised if some "attractants" do
more harm than good, but I'm fairly convinced that this one in particular
makes them want to eat my bait. Maybe one day I will think otherwise
though, I'm flexible when it comes to fishing.

Rich P


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...

This would be to say that all fish have exactly the same behavior when it
comes to scent color etc. Hard to believe. I do use scents, Dip and glow
garlic, have I noticed a difference, yup, could it work against me... yup.
What fish like one day they might not like the next. IMO




Bob La Londe July 27th, 2005 03:46 PM

"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:


I'm sure that RichZ will argue that point with you.


Nope. I've given up arguing that point. If people want to spend money and
effort on it, it's no skin off my back, and I'm not wasting any more of my
time thinking about it. Except my one time reply to RichP in the next
message in this thread.G


Well, I am not convinced that it makes any difference in how many hits you
get. I am pretty convinced it makes huge differences in how long a fish
holds a bait.

I noticed it when I first started using salt impregnated plastics. I used
to fish almost exclusively u-tail and ribbon tail style worms. One day I
got ahold of some Zoom U-tails and I started dropping them into shadows,
eddies, and back washes in the canals. Its pretty hard to fish those
conditions with the current on a tight line and get the bait to drop where
you want it. So I started deadsticking it and pulling the line tight every
couple seconds to see if it was moving oddly. I gut hooked an amazing
number of fish. Heck I caught an amazing number of fish period. For a long
time that was my goto bait. I did have some of my older plastics, but they
just didn't seem to produce as many fish. I'm sure there were a lot of
other factors, but I am convinced it was (taste) not scent that made the
difference.

This spring I started using mega strike after having a ton of fish hit and
spit (post spawn) too fast for me to react. Almost instantly I noticed that
fish were picking up my bait and holding it. I was thriled. Of course it
could have been just a subtle shift from one day to the next in fish
attitude so I still was not totally convinced. One day fishing a tournament
with Hammer I was getting bit and putting fish in hte boat, and Hammer kept
missing fish. We were fishing to radically different baits, but in a
similar manner. I was pitching a wacky stick worm, and hammer was pitching
a t-rigged baby size beaver tail. It was so bad I was throwing to his
missed fish and picking them up. I was lettign them take the bat too, not
just nailing them the moment they hit. Finally Hammer smeared some
megastrike on his bait and he started having them hold onto his bait. For
one fish he just stood there and watched it swim away before he set the
hook.

Now I have no idea whether scent ameks any difference or not, and my
experience doesn't seem to indicate that you get any more hits from using
it, but I am certain that taste makes a huge difference in how long a fish
holds a bait. I know my story is purely anecdotal, but its good enough for
me.


--
Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



RichZ July 28th, 2005 04:23 AM

Bob La Londe wrote:
Well, I am not convinced that it makes any difference in how many hits

you
get. I am pretty convinced it makes huge differences in how long a fish
holds a bait.


It always amazes me when people have fish drop plastic worms and/or
jigs. I don't use any flavors or scents, and routinely let a fish swim
with my lure before setting. In fact, years ago, Charlie Brewer taught
me to lead a fish out of cover by just slowly reeling before setting the
hook, and he didn't use any chemical enhancements, either. IMHO, it
fixes a problem that doesn't exist to the extent that most anglers seem
to think it does.

Joe Haubenreich July 28th, 2005 05:37 AM

Yup.... done it myself a time or three, fishing a small worm on light
line... usually a Charlie Brewer's Slider rig, tossed back into buckbrush or
around laydowns. When the fish takes the lure, trying to horse it in is
futile. You might as well toss a handful of slider jigs and worms in the
general direction of the tangle and go on to the ramp... you aren't getting
any of them back anyway.

But if you just gently guide the fish with your rod tip with enough pressure
to coax it rather than pull it, sometimes it will follow the line right on
out into open water.

Last time I tried that was eleven or twelve years ago on Sardis Reservoir in
Mississippi. Dad and I were fishing in one jon boat, Bubba and his daddy in
another. I was catching bass on Rat'l'traps around Engineer's Point, a rocky
point jutting out into the lake just above the levee, near the ramp. Every
now and then I'd pick up an ultralight rig and toss a slider jig and worm
into bushes along the flooded shoreline. A six pounder picked up the worm,
and I knew there was no way I'd force it out of cover. After a quick
hook-set, I slacked off and just let the fish relax. I kept the boat well
away from the brush, and eventually the big girl stopped hunkering down and
swam right out. I led it right up to the side of the boat, where I had my
hand in the water waiting for a chance to lip her. Until I tightened my
grip, I don't think the bass even realized it was hooked. Probably just
curious and taking the path of least resistance.
--
Joe Haubenreich
Secret Weapon Lures
Web: secretweaponlures.com
---------------------------------------
Better designs... better lures.... better results
---------------------------------------~ 0")))


"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
Well, I am not convinced that it makes any difference in how many hits

you
get. I am pretty convinced it makes huge differences in how long a fish
holds a bait.


It always amazes me when people have fish drop plastic worms and/or
jigs. I don't use any flavors or scents, and routinely let a fish swim
with my lure before setting. In fact, years ago, Charlie Brewer taught
me to lead a fish out of cover by just slowly reeling before setting the
hook, and he didn't use any chemical enhancements, either. IMHO, it
fixes a problem that doesn't exist to the extent that most anglers seem
to think it does.



Bob La Londe July 28th, 2005 03:28 PM

"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
Well, I am not convinced that it makes any difference in how many hits

you
get. I am pretty convinced it makes huge differences in how long a fish
holds a bait.


It always amazes me when people have fish drop plastic worms and/or jigs.
I don't use any flavors or scents, and routinely let a fish swim with my
lure before setting. In fact, years ago, Charlie Brewer taught me to lead
a fish out of cover by just slowly reeling before setting the hook, and he
didn't use any chemical enhancements, either. IMHO, it fixes a problem
that doesn't exist to the extent that most anglers seem to think it does.


Oh, I agree that often fish will swim off with any bait. I've had fish pick
up and swim away with almost every type of drop bait. I am talking about
circumstances though where they were specifically picking it up and spitting
it out in a single breath. In one case two anglers fishing the same spots.
One with attractant and one without.


--
Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com




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