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Bevin July 25th, 2005 09:12 PM

Any Western NC Clave Details Available?
 
After having such a huge time at the Western Clave on the Madison, I'm
starting to think ahead to plans for fall trips, etc., and I understand
some of you friendly folk get together in western NC in the fall. Does
anyone have an idea of when this event might happen? Any other details
available yet? Is it too early yet?


Wayne Harrison July 25th, 2005 09:31 PM


"Bevin" wrote

I understand
some of you friendly folk get together in western NC in the fall. Does
anyone have an idea of when this event might happen? Any other details
available yet? Is it too early yet?


i believe jeffie miller, the scourge of the madison valley, has some
general concepts for just such an event.

since the only mormon i have ever seen in western north carolina is
zimbo, i might make the scene myownself.

oh, jeffie!!!!!

yfitons
wayno





Zimbo July 25th, 2005 09:45 PM

I'd love to attend--but need to know dates sooner rather than later so
I can convince the various powers that be to let me go.

--Steve (Mormon-in-Transition)


Wayne Harrison wrote:
"Bevin" wrote

I understand
some of you friendly folk get together in western NC in the fall. Does
anyone have an idea of when this event might happen? Any other details
available yet? Is it too early yet?


i believe jeffie miller, the scourge of the madison valley, has some
general concepts for just such an event.

since the only mormon i have ever seen in western north carolina is
zimbo, i might make the scene myownself.

oh, jeffie!!!!!

yfitons
wayno




daytripper July 25th, 2005 11:12 PM

On 25 Jul 2005 13:45:03 -0700, "Zimbo" wrote:

--Steve (Mormon-in-Transition)


Which way you going?

Danl July 25th, 2005 11:29 PM


"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
...

"Bevin" wrote

I understand
some of you friendly folk get together in western NC in the fall. Does
anyone have an idea of when this event might happen? Any other details
available yet? Is it too early yet?


i believe jeffie miller, the scourge of the madison valley, has some
general concepts for just such an event.

since the only mormon i have ever seen in western north carolina is
zimbo, i might make the scene myownself.

oh, jeffie!!!!!

yfitons
wayno



Wayno, what do you suppose is taking Clavemeister Jeff so bloody long to get
this thing put together?

C'mon, Miller, some of us have to actually plan ahead for these things.

Sheesh!

Danl, the impatient....



Bevin July 26th, 2005 12:06 AM

Well, since the planning is still in process, can I suggest that we do
this 'clave the week before or after the weekend of Oct 14th? I was
hoping to be in Asheville that weekend anyway. And the farther ahead I
give notice of my intended absence, the less painful it becomes (to
wit: "but boss, I had this planned months ago! Remember? You said
it'd probably be OK so I went ahead and spent about a zillion bucks on
airfare to Asheville, and I can't cancel now!").


Zimbo July 26th, 2005 12:09 AM

Upstream dead-drift, of course.

--Steve


Charlie Choc July 26th, 2005 12:18 AM

On 25 Jul 2005 16:06:41 -0700, "Bevin" wrote:

Well, since the planning is still in process, can I suggest that we do
this 'clave the week before or after the weekend of Oct 14th? I was
hoping to be in Asheville that weekend anyway. And the farther ahead I
give notice of my intended absence, the less painful it becomes (to
wit: "but boss, I had this planned months ago! Remember? You said
it'd probably be OK so I went ahead and spent about a zillion bucks on
airfare to Asheville, and I can't cancel now!").


I think bear season starts Oct 15, so I expect it will be before then. That's
too bad since I'll be in Taos until the 15th.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

Ken Fortenberry July 26th, 2005 12:22 AM

Bevin wrote:
Well, since the planning is still in process, can I suggest that we do
this 'clave the week before or after the weekend of Oct 14th? ...


I plan to be in Bryson City from Oct. 8-15 and fishing in
Graham County and environs from Oct. 9-14. So my vote for
'Clave dates would be

Bevin July 26th, 2005 12:24 AM

OK, so what weight rod will I need for these bears? I'm guessing my
5wt ain't quite big enough...


Charlie Choc July 26th, 2005 12:27 AM

On 25 Jul 2005 16:24:28 -0700, "Bevin" wrote:

OK, so what weight rod will I need for these bears? I'm guessing my
5wt ain't quite big enough...


You'll probably want at least an 11wt and some *real* long handled forceps.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

Wolfgang July 26th, 2005 01:33 AM


"Zimbo" wrote in message
oups.com...
Upstream dead-drift, of course.


Which, inevitably, brings you right back where you started.

Wolfgang
who notes that it's not necessarily a bad place to be.



Wolfgang July 26th, 2005 01:37 AM


"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
...
On 25 Jul 2005 16:24:28 -0700, "Bevin" wrote:

OK, so what weight rod will I need for these bears? I'm guessing my
5wt ain't quite big enough...


You'll probably want at least an 11wt and some *real* long handled
forceps.


The event was held during bear season a couple of years ago. There were no
problems associated with the timing.......um......well, except that we got
adopted by a stray dog......who took up more than her fair share of porch
space. :(

Wolfgang
who, truth be told, is much more comfortable with the idea of people chasing
bears all over creation than vice versa.



Jeff Miller July 26th, 2005 01:44 AM

Zimbo wrote:

I'd love to attend--but need to know dates sooner rather than later so
I can convince the various powers that be to let me go.

--Steve (Mormon-in-Transition)


Wayne Harrison wrote:

"Bevin" wrote

I understand

some of you friendly folk get together in western NC in the fall. Does
anyone have an idea of when this event might happen? Any other details
available yet? Is it too early yet?


i believe jeffie miller, the scourge of the madison valley, has some
general concepts for just such an event.

since the only mormon i have ever seen in western north carolina is
zimbo, i might make the scene myownself.

oh, jeffie!!!!!

yfitons
wayno




zimbo - why don't you give us the dates that work best for you and which
will be most acceptable to the "power that must be obeyed". it would be
great to see you again and catch up on your doins. last i heard, you
were training for nascar, and building racecars. g

jeff

rw July 26th, 2005 01:57 AM

Zimbo wrote:

--Steve (Mormon-in-Transition)


.... and top-posting ****tard. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Big Dale July 26th, 2005 07:36 AM

Bevin: The last fly rod that I saw that was broken by "switchin a bar"
only had tha top six or eight inches broken off the old wonderod and he
was still using the rod a couple of decades later. This guy also showed
us some genuwine Yallerhammers that his grandad had tied. Way Cool!

The FFF Southern Council Conclave is in Mountain Home, Arkansas on
October 6-8 and I was kind of thinking about heading over to North
Carolina the next week, or I could just head to Colorado.

Charlie, If any of your group decides to try Eseke's Brew Pub in Taos,
I would suggest staying away from the Green Chili Beer. That is a great
time of year to be in Northern New Mexico. I remember watching mny Dad
catch trout on bubble gum at Junebug campground between Red River and
Questa back in the 1950's.

Big Dale


Zimbo July 26th, 2005 08:22 PM

Forty's dates are as good as any. I have to convince my various bosses
that both flying to Utah to run the St. George marathon on October 1st
*AND* spending several days fishing with ruffians are both mortal
necessities.

As far as being called a top-posting ****tard.... I'm using Google
Groups on a f^cking Macintosh, so it serves me right.

--Steve


Jeff July 26th, 2005 11:23 PM

of course, that still leaves open the question of when *you* will be
there...

jeff

Zimbo wrote:
Forty's dates are as good as any. I have to convince my various bosses
that both flying to Utah to run the St. George marathon on October 1st
*AND* spending several days fishing with ruffians are both mortal
necessities.

As far as being called a top-posting ****tard.... I'm using Google
Groups on a f^cking Macintosh, so it serves me right.

--Steve


Frank Reid July 27th, 2005 01:36 AM

Forty's dates are as good as any. I have to convince my various bosses
that both flying to Utah to run the St. George marathon on October 1st
*AND* spending several days fishing with ruffians are both mortal
necessities.


Steve,
When you get to St. George (don't know why anyone would want to go there
:-)), take your bamboo with you. There is no fishing in the Virgin River
(well, except for a few par-boiled white fish), but Kolob Resevoir is
awesome. There is also Quail Creek Resevoir, but I recommend Kolob. 22
miles up the road from Virgin, UT, you can easily be the only one on the
lake on any given weekday. 24 inch cuts suckin' at the bugs right along the
shore. Try the north side of the lake where the creek comes in. A float
tub is ideal if you can bring it with. Good way to relax after a big run.
Oh, by the way, bring your big crawdad patterns.
http://espn.go.com/outdoors/fishing/...reservoir.html


--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply



Ken Fortenberry July 27th, 2005 01:56 AM

Zimbo wrote:
Forty's dates are as good as any. I have to convince my various bosses
that both flying to Utah to run the St. George marathon on October 1st
*AND* spending several days fishing with ruffians are both mortal
necessities.


Good luck with that marathon.

I wouldn't be anywhere *near* ready to slither around,
over and amongst Graham County boulders just a week
after having run a marathon. My knees would still be
ice-bound 12 hours a day and my diet would consist of
Laphroaig and ibuprofen, (not that that's all bad ;-).

I envy you youngsters.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Kevin Vang July 27th, 2005 05:02 AM

In article ,
moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf says...
Steve,
When you get to St. George (don't know why anyone would want to go there
:-)), take your bamboo with you.


and possibly a heavy 9 weight. IIRC, fall is a good time to look
for stripers on the surface in Lake Powell.

Kevin
--
reply to:
kevin dot vang at minotstateu dot edu

Willi July 27th, 2005 11:18 PM

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Zimbo wrote:

Forty's dates are as good as any. I have to convince my various bosses
that both flying to Utah to run the St. George marathon on October 1st
*AND* spending several days fishing with ruffians are both mortal
necessities.



Good luck with that marathon.

I wouldn't be anywhere *near* ready to slither around,
over and amongst Graham County boulders just a week
after having run a marathon. My knees would still be
ice-bound 12 hours a day and my diet would consist of
Laphroaig and ibuprofen, (not that that's all bad ;-).



That sure sounds like a healthy thing to do!!!

Willi


Ken Fortenberry July 27th, 2005 11:30 PM

Willi wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I wouldn't be anywhere *near* ready to slither around,
over and amongst Graham County boulders just a week
after having run a marathon. My knees would still be
ice-bound 12 hours a day and my diet would consist of
Laphroaig and ibuprofen, (not that that's all bad ;-).



That sure sounds like a healthy thing to do!!!


What sounds like a healthy thing to do ? Running a
marathon in the first place or hunkering down with
ice, alcohol and anti-inflammatories afterwards ?

Makes no difference, I'd say that neither one is a
particularly healthy thing to do.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Willi July 27th, 2005 11:38 PM

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Willi wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I wouldn't be anywhere *near* ready to slither around,
over and amongst Graham County boulders just a week
after having run a marathon. My knees would still be
ice-bound 12 hours a day and my diet would consist of
Laphroaig and ibuprofen, (not that that's all bad ;-).




That sure sounds like a healthy thing to do!!!



What sounds like a healthy thing to do ? Running a
marathon in the first place or hunkering down with
ice, alcohol and anti-inflammatories afterwards ?

Makes no difference, I'd say that neither one is a
particularly healthy thing to do.


That was my point!

Willi


Ken Fortenberry July 27th, 2005 11:43 PM

Willi wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Willi wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I wouldn't be anywhere *near* ready to slither around,
over and amongst Graham County boulders just a week
after having run a marathon. My knees would still be
ice-bound 12 hours a day and my diet would consist of
Laphroaig and ibuprofen, (not that that's all bad ;-).




That sure sounds like a healthy thing to do!!!




What sounds like a healthy thing to do ? Running a
marathon in the first place or hunkering down with
ice, alcohol and anti-inflammatories afterwards ?

Makes no difference, I'd say that neither one is a
particularly healthy thing to do.


That was my point!


Yeah, yeah, you sound like my wife.

Healthy or not, and we agree that it's not, running a
marathon *is* an accomplishment of sorts. You can't
just lace up your running shoes and go run 26.2 miles,
you have to train for months and you have to be fairly
diligent about it.

For what it's worth.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Willi July 28th, 2005 12:23 AM

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Willi wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Willi wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I wouldn't be anywhere *near* ready to slither around,
over and amongst Graham County boulders just a week
after having run a marathon. My knees would still be
ice-bound 12 hours a day and my diet would consist of
Laphroaig and ibuprofen, (not that that's all bad ;-).





That sure sounds like a healthy thing to do!!!




What sounds like a healthy thing to do ? Running a
marathon in the first place or hunkering down with
ice, alcohol and anti-inflammatories afterwards ?

Makes no difference, I'd say that neither one is a
particularly healthy thing to do.


That was my point!



Yeah, yeah, you sound like my wife.

Healthy or not, and we agree that it's not, running a
marathon *is* an accomplishment of sorts. You can't
just lace up your running shoes and go run 26.2 miles,
you have to train for months and you have to be fairly
diligent about it.

For what it's worth.



If you have to ice your knees "12 hours a day" for over a week, and live
on a diet that consists of Laphroaig and ibuprofen, maybe that means you
didn't train long enough (or you shouldn't be doing it in the first place).

You do that to yourself for the feeling of "accomplishment"? What was
the accomplishment?

That's beyond my understanding.

Willi


Ken Fortenberry July 28th, 2005 12:33 AM

Willi wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Healthy or not, and we agree that it's not, running a
marathon *is* an accomplishment of sorts.

...
That's beyond my understanding.


OK.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Wolfgang July 28th, 2005 12:42 AM


"Willi" wrote in message
...
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Willi wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Willi wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I wouldn't be anywhere *near* ready to slither around,
over and amongst Graham County boulders just a week
after having run a marathon. My knees would still be
ice-bound 12 hours a day and my diet would consist of
Laphroaig and ibuprofen, (not that that's all bad ;-).





That sure sounds like a healthy thing to do!!!




What sounds like a healthy thing to do ? Running a
marathon in the first place or hunkering down with
ice, alcohol and anti-inflammatories afterwards ?

Makes no difference, I'd say that neither one is a
particularly healthy thing to do.


That was my point!



Yeah, yeah, you sound like my wife.

Healthy or not, and we agree that it's not, running a
marathon *is* an accomplishment of sorts. You can't
just lace up your running shoes and go run 26.2 miles,
you have to train for months and you have to be fairly
diligent about it.

For what it's worth.



If you have to ice your knees "12 hours a day" for over a week, and live
on a diet that consists of Laphroaig and ibuprofen, maybe that means you
didn't train long enough (or you shouldn't be doing it in the first
place).

You do that to yourself for the feeling of "accomplishment"? What was the
accomplishment?

That's beyond my understanding.


Even without the beating, accomplishment is grossly overrated. It is what
those who are too dull to appreciate the subtle grandeur of process make do
with.

Wolfgang
it's the difference between a trout farm and a stream.......the difference
between a tarpon and a brookie.




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