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fishin' kid August 8th, 2005 11:18 AM

has any-one asked to see you're license?
 
i normally fish my local river where it says you need the river license to fish but the baliff hasn't gone down there for years so i dont bother to buy it plus the river isn't looked after at all and sometimes we have to take shears to cut the weeds down to even get close to the water.

When i go to lakes the baliffs there don't bother asking you if you have a rod license they just ask you to pay for a day ticket, i feel that most lake/river baliffs are just after money and that is why they dont ask if you have a rod license, some places (e.g my local river) dont look after the river and i think they should use the money we pay to make it better for anglers.

what are you're thought's about this?

David H. Lipman August 8th, 2005 06:31 PM

From: "fishin' kid"

| i normally fish my local river where it says you need the river license
| to fish but the baliff hasn't gone down there for years so i dont
| bother to buy it plus the river isn't looked after at all and sometimes
| we have to take shears to cut the weeds down to even get close to the
| water.
|
| When i go to lakes the baliffs there don't bother asking you if youhave a rod license they
| just ask you to pay for a day ticket, i feelthat most lake/river baliffs are just after
| money and that is why theydont ask if you have a rod license, some places (e.g my local
| river)dont look after the river and i think they should use the money we payto make it
| better for anglers.
|
| what are you're thought's about this?-- fishin' kid

Baliffs ?

I know them as "Game Wardens".

My friend has a cabin in the Poconoe Mountains, Penns., and his brother lived in Georgia. I
live in NJ. Well we went to a lake nereby and we were approached by an older gentlemen with
a 9mm and a Penns. badge. He asked us both for licenses. We both produced "out of state"
licenses and we sat down for a little while and had a nice chat.

Here in NJ evey so often an unmarked blue Chevy Caprice will show up on my beach. The only
identifying mark is the "SG" on the license plate. He isn't there to check licenses, he is
there to check to make sure the Fluke are the minimum size or other Salt Water regulations
are not breached.

Having Fish & Game licenses and fines doesn't bother me. Hell, it helps raise funds for
stocking programs. What I object to is the minimum size for Fluke is 16.5" and the average
fish falls well below maybe maxing out at 13".

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Dr Epstein August 8th, 2005 08:54 PM


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
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From: "fishin' kid"

| i normally fish my local river where it says you need the river license
| to fish but the baliff hasn't gone down there for years so i dont
| bother to buy it plus the river isn't looked after at all and sometimes
| we have to take shears to cut the weeds down to even get close to the
| water.
|
| When i go to lakes the baliffs there don't bother asking you if youhave

a rod license they
| just ask you to pay for a day ticket, i feelthat most lake/river baliffs

are just after
| money and that is why theydont ask if you have a rod license, some

places (e.g my local
| river)dont look after the river and i think they should use the money we

payto make it
| better for anglers.
|
| what are you're thought's about this?-- fishin' kid

Baliffs ?

I know them as "Game Wardens".

My friend has a cabin in the Poconoe Mountains, Penns., and his brother

lived in Georgia. I
live in NJ. Well we went to a lake nereby and we were approached by an

older gentlemen with
a 9mm and a Penns. badge. He asked us both for licenses. We both

produced "out of state"
licenses and we sat down for a little while and had a nice chat.

Here in NJ evey so often an unmarked blue Chevy Caprice will show up on my

beach. The only
identifying mark is the "SG" on the license plate. He isn't there to

check licenses, he is
there to check to make sure the Fluke are the minimum size or other Salt

Water regulations
are not breached.

Having Fish & Game licenses and fines doesn't bother me. Hell, it helps

raise funds for
stocking programs. What I object to is the minimum size for Fluke is

16.5" and the average
fish falls well below maybe maxing out at 13".



I could live with 16.5 " for fluke.
In NY and Conn it's 17.5".





David H. Lipman August 9th, 2005 03:21 PM

From: "Dr Epstein"


| I could live with 16.5 " for fluke.
| In NY and Conn it's 17.5".
|

Yeah, I heard about that. Many boats out of Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn, NY, come and fish the
Jersey Shore and they can fish the same waters as Jersey party boats but they have the limit
because they start and return to NY waters.

I think the disparity SUCKS !

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Bob La Londe August 10th, 2005 04:19 PM

"fishin' kid" wrote in message
...

i normally fish my local river where it says you need the river license
to fish but the baliff hasn't gone down there for years so i dont
bother to buy it plus the river isn't looked after at all and sometimes
we have to take shears to cut the weeds down to even get close to the
water.

When i go to lakes the baliffs there don't bother asking you if you
have a rod license they just ask you to pay for a day ticket, i feel
that most lake/river baliffs are just after money and that is why they
dont ask if you have a rod license, some places (e.g my local river)
dont look after the river and i think they should use the money we pay
to make it better for anglers.

what are you're thought's about this?


--
fishin' kid


Not sure what you are asking exactly. I don't fish many places that require
a "day ticket." Seems to me if you have to buy a permit by the day a
regular license would not be required. I have had my fishing license checked
many times. Last year I had a stretch where my license was checked byt he
same guy foru trip out in a row. Well, that's not totally true. The fourth
time he recognized me finally, and said he didn't need to see my license.


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bass109 August 10th, 2005 05:39 PM

Most people in the north east are not as kind as the people in the south. I have been asked more often than needed but hey dont let that ruin your day.

Cyli August 11th, 2005 02:26 AM

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 08:19:31 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

(Snipped)

Not sure what you are asking exactly. I don't fish many places that require
a "day ticket." Seems to me if you have to buy a permit by the day a
regular license would not be required. I have had my fishing license checked
many times. Last year I had a stretch where my license was checked byt he
same guy foru trip out in a row. Well, that's not totally true. The fourth
time he recognized me finally, and said he didn't need to see my license.


I understand it's common in Europe and maybe Great Britian. You do
need the license, but then you have to purchase a right to fish in a
particular place from the owner for the day / week / season. Much of
the water over the Atlantic is private. The license is from the
political body governing the area (as ours are), the permit is from
the owner of the water.

Makes me understand the word foreign when I find out about something
like that... :)

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Pup August 11th, 2005 04:00 PM

Ok, I too was trying to understand the original poster trying to
purchase a "river license". I thought at first, must be in the UK?


Cyli August 11th, 2005 06:53 PM

On 11 Aug 2005 08:00:25 -0700, "Pup" wrote:

Ok, I too was trying to understand the original poster trying to
purchase a "river license". I thought at first, must be in the UK?



Germany, too, I believe. And some countries don't (or didn't at my
last information) allow catch and release fishing. If you catch it,
you take it home with you. I don't know what they do about size
restrictions or even if they have any. I know that some of the
private waters have number of fish per species limits and assume that
all or most of the countries do, too. And I believe there's on
country (Germany comes to mind) where you have to pass a test to get
your basic license.

Sort of like the difference in the Internet here and 'over there'. In
many places every byte and bit you download is counted, where in the
US, as far as I know, we have, at most, number of hour limits until
you get to some of the specialized ones where people download binaries
by the ton. My present ISP just went from 200 hours / month for
dialup users to unlimited. They'd had DSL users unlimited from the
start. So even though editing posts is merely good manners in the US,
it's saving money in other countries.

Cyli
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Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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fishin' kid August 11th, 2005 08:16 PM

Yes i am in the U.K
the river license lets you fish certain parts of the river.

David H. Lipman August 11th, 2005 09:46 PM

From: "Cyli"


|
| Germany, too, I believe. And some countries don't (or didn't at my
| last information) allow catch and release fishing. If you catch it,
| you take it home with you. I don't know what they do about size
| restrictions or even if they have any. I know that some of the
| private waters have number of fish per species limits and assume that
| all or most of the countries do, too. And I believe there's on
| country (Germany comes to mind) where you have to pass a test to get
| your basic license.
|
| Sort of like the difference in the Internet here and 'over there'. In
| many places every byte and bit you download is counted, where in the
| US, as far as I know, we have, at most, number of hour limits until
| you get to some of the specialized ones where people download binaries
| by the ton. My present ISP just went from 200 hours / month for
| dialup users to unlimited. They'd had DSL users unlimited from the
| start. So even though editing posts is merely good manners in the US,
| it's saving money in other countries.
|
| Cyli
| r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
| Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.
|
| http://www.visi.com/~cyli
| email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)



That's weird. I practice Catch & Release most of the time.
I can't imagine the idea of being forced to take home fish that I won't eat.
If I am not going to eat it, I want the fish to live.

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Terry Lomax August 23rd, 2005 07:35 PM

David H. Lipman wrote:

That's weird. I practice Catch & Release most of the time.
I can't imagine the idea of being forced to take home fish that I won't eat.
If I am not going to eat it, I want the fish to live.


Much of Europe forces anglers to kill whatever they catch because the
supposed "animal rights" groups pressured the government to enact such
rules.

If you catch a tiny fish, too small to eat, you're forced to kill it.
If you catch an endangered speices, you're forced to kill it.
If you catch an inedible species, you're forced to kill it.

It shows how messed up the "animal rights" people are when they FORCE
anglers to KILL fish that could be released unharmed.

I encourage Europeans to have the fish slip out of their hands and get
away "accidentally".

In the USA, PETA and HSUS are trying to get catch and release fishing
outlawed. Some meathogs (usually in Yankee states) try to exploit this
to rationalize their meathogging (In-Fisherman).

An infamous enemy of catch-and-release fishing is Scott Adams, who
described it as "torture" in an awful Dilbert strip. Adams is
obviously a sissy dork who has never set foot outside a cubicle. He
portrayed the evil pointy-haired boss as the catch and release
fisherman, portraying fishing as bad. He uses his Dilbert strip not to
be funny, but to advance his far-left agenda (anti-fishing, vegetarian,
feminist, etc). In the typical hypocrisy of a vegan, Scott Adams
causes entire ecosystems to be destroyed as wetlands are drained and
forests are clearcut to grow the crops for his vegan lifestyle.
Fishermen and hunters selectively harvest individual animals as natural
predators, not damaging the ecosystem. Successful fishermen catch many
more fish than they could consume, so they _have_ to release the vast
majority of their fish or else they'd quit fishing within an hour of
each trip.


Regarding the original question, I get approached by the game warden
here in the USA about once a year, sometimes never in a year, sometimes
two or three times. The miles of stream / lake shoreline per game
warden is huge, so they're rare.


Bob La Londe September 4th, 2005 06:37 PM


"Terry Lomax" wrote in message
oups.com...

Regarding the original question, I get approached by the game warden
here in the USA about once a year, sometimes never in a year, sometimes
two or three times. The miles of stream / lake shoreline per game
warden is huge, so they're rare.


I have gone several years without ever being checked hunting or fishing, and
I have had stretches where my hunting license has been checked a couple
times and my fishing license checked five or six times within a couple
months.

Of course that always brings to mind the game warden in Ohio who tried to
nail me when I was 14 years old. In Ohio you can fish without a license
until you are sixteen years old. The fellow walked up and asked me what
grade I was in. He had the darndest time believing I was only 14 and going
into my junior year in high school. LOL. After grilling me and making me
very nervous for about twenty minutes he gave up and admitted there were no
holes in my story. (I was only 14.)
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