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Frank Reid August 9th, 2005 06:38 PM

What Vise Do You Use
 
I know, this should be over on the tying group, but this group is a bit more
active.
What tying vise do you use?
If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?

I'll start:
Use the Danvise (original Danica, not Orvis)
Want to buy a Norvise.

--
Frank Reid
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Ken Fortenberry August 9th, 2005 06:45 PM

Frank Reid wrote:
I know, this should be over on the tying group, but this group is a bit more
active.
What tying vise do you use?
If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?

I'll start:
Use the Danvise (original Danica, not Orvis)
Want to buy a Norvise.


I use a Regal. I like having a flat spot for
resting my left hand.

I've been told that if I use a true rotary
for awhile I'll never go back to the Regal,
but I'm not a production tyer. I tie one or
two glasses of Laphroaig worth at a time and
that's it.

So, if I could buy a new one tomorrow, I wouldn't.

--
Ken Fortenberry

JR August 9th, 2005 06:56 PM

Frank Reid wrote:

What tying vise do you use?
If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?


Have and use both a Renzetti traveler cam and a Regal. Tend to use the
Renzetti for flies smaller than #10 and the Regal for steelhead and other
large flies (even though I do have the midge jaws for it).

I never use the rotary function of the Renzetti--force of habit, I
suppose; I learned on a non-rotary vise. If I lost both tomorrow, I'd buy
a new Regal.

JR

Frank Reid August 9th, 2005 07:05 PM

I never use the rotary function of the Renzetti--force of habit, I
suppose; I learned on a non-rotary vise. If I lost both tomorrow, I'd buy
a new Regal.


I never did either, but once Clavemeister Tom started me on it, I'm hooked.
Want more speed.

--
Frank Reid
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Wayne Knight August 9th, 2005 07:10 PM


Frank Reid wrote:
I know, this should be over on the tying group, but this group is a bit more
active.
What tying vise do you use?


Depending on my mood, usually an HMH Spartan, also use a Dyna King
Barracuda and Renzetti Presentation 3000.

If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?


Another HMH, probably the Standard


Jeff Taylor August 9th, 2005 07:18 PM


"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...

If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?


Ditto on the thoughts about Regal, I have the non-rotary. It's given me
years of service with no trouble.

I have never tied with a rotary, so I really don't know if I would find the
benefit. The Regal rotary would probably be a nice setup if you like that
feature.

JT



George Cleveland August 9th, 2005 07:19 PM

On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 13:38:55 -0400, "Frank Reid"
wrote:

I know, this should be over on the tying group, but this group is a bit more
active.
What tying vise do you use?
If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?

I'll start:
Use the Danvise (original Danica, not Orvis)
Want to buy a Norvise.



Griffin 2A. Cheap and works for me.


g.c.

Frank Reid August 9th, 2005 07:23 PM


Another HMH, probably the Standard


http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/F...ML/002716.html

Awe, go for it. You know you want it.

--
Frank Reid
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Dave Martel August 9th, 2005 07:32 PM


"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
I know, this should be over on the tying group, but this group is a bit
more active.
What tying vise do you use?
If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?

I'll start:
Use the Danvise (original Danica, not Orvis)
Want to buy a Norvise.

--
Frank Reid
Euthanize to respond


Abel Supreme. Wonderful vise. I started on the venerable old Thompson "A";
went to the Regal rotary Bronze Pedestal...then to the Abel. If I ever buy
another vise it would probably be either a LAW (Lawrence A. Waldron) from
England...or the Renzetti Master.

I really don't understand having a rotary feature and not taking advantage
of it. I'd be lost without the "true rotary" feature of my Abel.

Dave M





rich brenz August 9th, 2005 07:37 PM

Frank Reid wrote:
I know, this should be over on the tying group, but this group is a bit more
active.
What tying vise do you use?
If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?

I'll start:
Use the Danvise (original Danica, not Orvis)
Want to buy a Norvise.

Nor-vise...I made a new knob to perfectly counterbalance the weight of
the midge jaws. Tried most of the others mentioned in this thread.

Rich Brenz

Scott Seidman August 9th, 2005 07:42 PM

"Frank Reid" wrote in
:

I know, this should be over on the tying group, but this group is a
bit more active.
What tying vise do you use?
If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?

I'll start:
Use the Danvise (original Danica, not Orvis)
Want to buy a Norvise.


Renzetti Traveler, lefty model. Haven't found anything I want to do yet
that I can't do with it, so if anything, I'd like the cam lock model


--
Scott
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Conan The Librarian August 9th, 2005 07:43 PM

Frank Reid wrote:

I know, this should be over on the tying group, but this group is a bit more
active.
What tying vise do you use?
If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?


I used to tie on a Thompson A, but now use a Griffin 2A. Cheap, but
does everything I need.

If I could buy a new one tomorrow, I'd probably save the money and
use it towards tying materials/hooks.


Chuck Vance (frugal, not cheap)

William Claspy August 9th, 2005 08:07 PM

On 8/9/05 1:38 PM, in article , "Frank Reid"
wrote:


What tying vise do you use?


Thompson Model A.

If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?


Something under a hundred bucks. Just don't tie that much!

Bill


JR August 9th, 2005 08:26 PM

Dave Martel wrote:

I really don't understand having a rotary feature and not taking advantage
of it.


When I bought the thing, the full rotary feature seemed like a good idea.
In practice, though, it meant just one more thing to futz
with--disengaging the shaft for rotary, then engaging it for tying stuff
that is not wound. For me, more bother than it's worth.

Anyway, my failing is not restricted to vises. Given what manufacturers
say about their fly rods, I appear to take advantage of only a fraction of
*their* capabilities as well. :-)

JR

briansfly August 9th, 2005 08:42 PM

Frank Reid wrote:

I know, this should be over on the tying group, but this group is a bit more
active.
What tying vise do you use?


I too own a Danvise, and a Renzetti Traveler(cam). Seldom use the
Danvise anymore. Seldom use the rotary feature on either vise, but the
Renzetti is much smoother.

If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?


I'd launder the money into a new reel or rod. :-)

brians


Wayne Knight August 9th, 2005 10:49 PM


William Claspy wrote:

Something under a hundred bucks. Just don't tie that much!


It ain't what one spends, it's how and where one spends.

While both my Dyna King and HMH list for somewhere between 100-200, I
picked up the HMH at an LL Bean outlet store in Nashua NH for $50, and
the Dyna-king with both the pedistal and c-clamp, white background
thingie, and the little trash bag for $60 when the husband/wife owners
of a mail order fly shop in Rockford IL decided to retire.


Wayne Knight August 9th, 2005 11:07 PM

Frank Reid wrote:

You know you want it.


of the things in the world I want, another vise for the vice is not
amongst them.


Charlie Wilson August 10th, 2005 04:01 AM

Renzetti Traveler w/ cam jaws.



Darin & Michele Minor August 10th, 2005 04:53 AM

Frank Reid wrote:

What tying vise do you use?


Older model Nor-Vise that I traded an old radial arm saw for. I think I got the
better end of the deal :)


If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?


New Nor-Vise. Norm's made some pretty good improvements to his vise.

Darin




Tim J. August 10th, 2005 12:58 PM

Frank Reid wrote:
I know, this should be over on the tying group, but this group is a
bit more active.
What tying vise do you use?
If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?


I use the Danvise. Why? Because *somebody* told me it was the best value
on the market. I think it was the same weasel-monkey that's now jumping
ship. "Come on in! The water's fine!", sez he.

Seriously, for the tying I do, it's a great vise.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



William Claspy August 10th, 2005 01:55 PM

On 8/9/05 5:49 PM, in article
, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


William Claspy wrote:

Something under a hundred bucks. Just don't tie that much!


It ain't what one spends, it's how and where one spends.


Had that statement come from just about anyone else, Wayne, I'd just nod my
head, but from you...?

:-)


While both my Dyna King and HMH list for somewhere between 100-200, I
picked up the HMH at an LL Bean outlet store in Nashua NH for $50, and
the Dyna-king with both the pedistal and c-clamp, white background
thingie, and the little trash bag for $60 when the husband/wife owners
of a mail order fly shop in Rockford IL decided to retire.


Nice! And I totally agree.

Never pay retail,
Bill


Frank Reid August 10th, 2005 02:22 PM


"Tim J." wrote in message
...
Frank Reid wrote:
I know, this should be over on the tying group, but this group is a
bit more active.
What tying vise do you use?
If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?


I use the Danvise. Why? Because *somebody* told me it was the best value
on the market. I think it was the same weasel-monkey that's now jumping
ship. "Come on in! The water's fine!", sez he.

Seriously, for the tying I do, it's a great vise.


It is a great vise. One of my options is just get another one (and if my
daughter gets accepted to some of the colleges she's applying to like
Harvard, I may exercise that option). I've beaten the crap out of the
thing, its a first generation Danvise, and, after some minor disassembly and
repair, it still works fine. Just want more speed.


--
Frank "Weasle Monkey" Reid
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Scott Seidman August 10th, 2005 02:34 PM

"Frank Reid" wrote in news:ddcv38$o7b$1
@newslocal.mitre.org:

Just want more speed.


Frank, I've watched my vise for some time, and I've yet to see it move at
all, let alone move fast. You should probably avoid the Renzetti :)


--
Scott
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Tim J. August 10th, 2005 02:41 PM

Scott Seidman wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in news:ddcv38$o7b$1
@newslocal.mitre.org:

Just want more speed.


Frank, I've watched my vise for some time, and I've yet to see it
move at all, let alone move fast. You should probably avoid the
Renzetti :)


Someone needs to build Frank a vise with a 10:1 ratio.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Dave Mohnsen August 10th, 2005 03:17 PM


"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
I know, this should be over on the tying group, but this group is a bit
more active.
What tying vise do you use?
If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?
I'll start:
Use the Danvise (original Danica, not Orvis)
Want to buy a Norvise.
Frank Reid
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Hi All,
I remember a thread about this quite a while ago as I recall. . . . well at
least one computer or so ago for me.
Here goes: did a quick walk around to do a check.

-3 Regal Pedestals (all have the "turn" function) ( don't use the C-Clamps
much anymore)
- 2 Renzetti travelers (1 regular and 1 cam version)
- a couple of Thompson A vises
- a small herd of India A knockoffs (about 6 or so)
- 1 Danvise
- 1 HMH Standard
- 1 HMH Spartan
Heh . . .heh . . .and I tell ya, it is hard to tie on them all at the same
time!
In reality, as some here know, I was involved a bit in consulting to a fly
manufacturer, involving trips to an undisclosed country that starts with a T
.. . . and ends in . . . hailand. . . teaching new patterns, and looking over
production control, and silly stuff like that. And used to teach tying
classes here in the US. . as well as Germany and Korea.
I seemed to use the HMH vises when I lived on the East side of the US. My
first real vise was a Thompson A. (the older one) I did pick up a "kit" many
many years ago in a world far away to try to tie a few bass flies and
bluegill fies when I grew up in the Midwest. ( that lasted about a week
until I gor serious about it in the early '70s here in Colorado)
Until I stopped teaching a few years ago I still had people start with the
Thompson As or the knockoffs, and then let them try the other types of vises
I have. (always started with C-clamps)
If I could buy a new one tomorrow? answer . . . no thank you.
I seem to use a Renzetti when I travel, and either a Renzetti, Danvise, or
Regal here at home depending on what I'm tying.
BestWishes,
DaveMohnsen
Denver



Bob La Londe August 10th, 2005 04:02 PM

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
I know, this should be over on the tying group, but this group is a bit
more active.
What tying vise do you use?
If you could buy a new one tomorrow, what would it be?

I'll start:
Use the Danvise (original Danica, not Orvis)
Want to buy a Norvise.


I have some old no-name vise that a a friend of the family gave me when I
was a kid. I have only actually tied a couple flies with it, but I have
used it to wrap lots and lots of hair and feather jigs. No clue the name or
the type, but it works. It is hard to get tightened down with the jaws in
exactly the right position, but it is nice to be able loosen it up ratate
the jaws and tighten it down again.

If I tied seriusly I would look for a vise with two different locks. One to
tighten down the jaws, and one that would allow you to rotate the jaws
without loosening them.


--
Bob La Londe

Win a Tackle Pack
Jig Fishing - Tips and Techniques Contest
Courtesy of Siebler Custom Baits
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



Frank Reid August 10th, 2005 04:21 PM

If I tied seriusly I would look for a vise with two different locks. One
to tighten down the jaws, and one that would allow you to rotate the jaws
without loosening them.


--
Bob La Londe


Bob, you could get that capability with a DanVise.
By the way, you keep hanging around here and the BASS folks is gonna start
wondering if you're leaning to the dark side. Afor ya' know it, you'll be
using your bass boat to cast for carp on the fly with a cottonwood fly.

--
Frank Reid
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Wayne Knight August 10th, 2005 05:19 PM


William Claspy wrote:

Had that statement come from just about anyone else, Wayne, I'd just nod my
head, but from you...?

:-)


The other tightwads on this place have nothing on me. I'm willing to
pay for quality, had the luxury of having some means to pay for the
quality, but that don't mean I always paid the initial asking price.
But contrary to what some others may think, I know the average Joe
can't walk into a fly shop on a whim and walk out with the lastest
thunderstick and Renzetti master.

I figure 3/4th of my tackle collection (including my vises), almost all
of my wood shop, and my hunting/camping gear came out of closeouts,
barter, conservation auctions, the used market, or just plain old
making an offer to the store owner. It doesn't work everytime but works
often enough.

My latest vices are fine shotguns and the challenges of getting those
at a price point which fits my wallet have been pretty daunting. But I
did pick up an AYA 12g (list about $3,800) as I was leaving Kansas for
under a Grand. Now if I can find a companion 20G for the same price
I'll be in business.


Bob La Londe August 10th, 2005 09:14 PM

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
If I tied seriusly I would look for a vise with two different locks.

One
to tighten down the jaws, and one that would allow you to rotate the

jaws
without loosening them.


--
Bob La Londe


Bob, you could get that capability with a DanVise.
By the way, you keep hanging around here and the BASS folks is gonna start
wondering if you're leaning to the dark side. Afor ya' know it, you'll be
using your bass boat to cast for carp on the fly with a cottonwood fly.


LOL. Well, I do own three fly rods, but they are all 8' exactly so
technically legal for tournament bassin' LOL.


--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com



Scott Seidman August 10th, 2005 09:24 PM

"Bob La Londe" wrote in
news:1123704929.452a0a7f4167bc7193159b2d88194e73@t eranews:

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
If I tied seriusly I would look for a vise with two different
locks.

One
to tighten down the jaws, and one that would allow you to rotate
the

jaws
without loosening them.


--
Bob La Londe


Bob, you could get that capability with a DanVise.
By the way, you keep hanging around here and the BASS folks is gonna
start wondering if you're leaning to the dark side. Afor ya' know
it, you'll be using your bass boat to cast for carp on the fly with a
cottonwood fly.


LOL. Well, I do own three fly rods, but they are all 8' exactly so
technically legal for tournament bassin' LOL.



There was a guy handled T-bone around here who was talking about tourny
fishing using only fly rods. He was so dead set against catch&release
fishing that it was a little funny.

--
Scott
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rw August 11th, 2005 12:38 AM

Scott Seidman wrote:

There was a guy handled T-bone around here who was talking about tourny
fishing using only fly rods. He was so dead set against catch&release
fishing that it was a little funny.


Aren't virtually all bass tournaments C&R?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Wolfgang August 11th, 2005 01:30 AM


"rw" wrote in message
m...
Scott Seidman wrote:

There was a guy handled T-bone around here who was talking about tourny
fishing using only fly rods. He was so dead set against catch&release
fishing that it was a little funny.


Aren't virtually all bass tournaments C&R?


GOOD MORNING!!!

Wolfgang
o.k. now, anyone who still thinks that timmy should have been taken
seriously......meet stevie, kennie, kennie, warren, davie, davie,
ste........and dicklet.



Ken Fortenberry August 11th, 2005 03:46 AM

Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote:
Scott Seidman wrote:
There was a guy handled T-bone around here who was talking about tourny
fishing using only fly rods. He was so dead set against catch&release
fishing that it was a little funny.


Aren't virtually all bass tournaments C&R?



GOOD MORNING!!!

Wolfgang
o.k. now, anyone who still thinks that timmy should have been taken
seriously......meet stevie, kennie, kennie, warren, davie, davie,
ste........and dicklet.


Tim Walker aka Tbone aka Moe Skeeter was/is one hell
of a nice guy. I took him seriously, he was articulate,
erudite and passionate.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Wolfgang August 11th, 2005 04:07 AM


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..
Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote:
Scott Seidman wrote:
There was a guy handled T-bone around here who was talking about tourny
fishing using only fly rods. He was so dead set against catch&release
fishing that it was a little funny.

Aren't virtually all bass tournaments C&R?



GOOD MORNING!!!

Wolfgang
o.k. now, anyone who still thinks that timmy should have been taken
seriously......meet stevie, kennie, kennie, warren, davie, davie,
ste........and dicklet.


Tim Walker aka Tbone aka Moe Skeeter was/is one hell
of a nice guy.


Could be. I wouldn't know......and you don't.

I took him seriously,


Well, surprise, surprise, surprise!

he was articulate,
erudite and passionate.


Was? Hm......perhaps. Based on the evidence presented here, he IS none of
the above.......not even close.

Wolfgang
who, nevertheless, would be much surprised if some did not find him so.



rw August 11th, 2005 04:52 AM

Wolfgang wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..

he was articulate,
erudite and passionate.



Was? Hm......perhaps. Based on the evidence presented here, he IS none of
the above.......not even close.

Wolfgang
who, nevertheless, would be much surprised if some did not find him so.


Wolfgang's in one of his periodic bitchy moods. Take a Midal, dude.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Wolfgang August 11th, 2005 12:37 PM


"rw" wrote in message
m...
Wolfgang wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..

he was articulate,
erudite and passionate.



Was? Hm......perhaps. Based on the evidence presented here, he IS none
of the above.......not even close.

Wolfgang
who, nevertheless, would be much surprised if some did not find him so.


Wolfgang's in one of his periodic bitchy moods. Take a Midal, dude.


Shall I inform the IT department that they should be expecting another email
anon?

Wolfgang



lou t August 11th, 2005 12:58 PM

Anyone who knows how many rods they own don't own enough rods!


Scott Seidman August 11th, 2005 01:15 PM

rw wrote in news:42fa8e8a$0$11048
:

Scott Seidman wrote:

There was a guy handled T-bone around here who was talking about tourny
fishing using only fly rods. He was so dead set against catch&release
fishing that it was a little funny.


Aren't virtually all bass tournaments C&R?


That would be why it was funny.

--
Scott
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Scott Seidman August 11th, 2005 01:18 PM

Ken Fortenberry wrote in news:B_yKe.341
:

Tim Walker aka Tbone aka Moe Skeeter was/is one hell
of a nice guy. I took him seriously, he was articulate,
erudite and passionate.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Agreed, but his views on fishing as a blood sport didn't really meet eye to
eye with his goals of tournament fishing. It was interesting watching him
deal with that.

--
Scott
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Tim J. August 11th, 2005 02:20 PM

Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...
Wolfgang wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..

he was articulate,
erudite and passionate.


Was? Hm......perhaps. Based on the evidence presented here, he IS
none of the above.......not even close.

Wolfgang
who, nevertheless, would be much surprised if some did not find him
so.


Wolfgang's in one of his periodic bitchy moods. Take a Midal, dude.


Shall I inform the IT department that they should be expecting
another email anon?


Oh. That was me. I just periodically send complaint emails to random
employers. An ounce of prevention, wot? Sorry for any inconvenience.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj




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