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Peter Charles September 1st, 2005 01:29 AM

Saugeen River Smallie
 
Haven't visited here in a while but thought you guys might like this
one.

http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/bass1.jpg

24 1/4" taken off of a Grindstone Angling drift boat, just north of
Walkerton, Ontario on the Saugeen River, using a deerhair popper.
Came out from under a sunken tree in about 8' of water to nail it.
Took a lot to keep him from going back down under that tree.





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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers September 1st, 2005 01:59 AM


"Peter Charles" wrote in message
...
Haven't visited here in a while but thought you guys might like this
one.

http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/bass1.jpg

24 1/4" taken off of a Grindstone Angling drift boat, just north of
Walkerton, Ontario on the Saugeen River, using a deerhair popper.
Came out from under a sunken tree in about 8' of water to nail it.
Took a lot to keep him from going back down under that tree.


OOOF!!! That's a biggun! Congratulations on a job well done.
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dscotts September 1st, 2005 12:25 PM

Peter Charles wrote:
24 1/4" taken off of a Grindstone Angling drift boat, just north of
Walkerton, Ontario on the Saugeen River, using a deerhair popper.
Came out from under a sunken tree in about 8' of water to nail it.
Took a lot to keep him from going back down under that tree.

that must of been the ride of a lifetime on most any small rig, let
alone a fly rod. caught many a smallies on a fly rod to have an inkling
of what that must of been all about, but nothing the likes of that
monster, maybe 2/3rds that. envious ...............

Chris Rennert September 1st, 2005 03:07 PM

Peter Charles wrote:
Haven't visited here in a while but thought you guys might like this
one.

http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/bass1.jpg

24 1/4" taken off of a Grindstone Angling drift boat, just north of
Walkerton, Ontario on the Saugeen River, using a deerhair popper.
Came out from under a sunken tree in about 8' of water to nail it.
Took a lot to keep him from going back down under that tree.





Peter

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Any Steelies coming in the Saug yet?

Charles B. Summers September 1st, 2005 03:35 PM

Sure, kick a guy while he's down...

That's a very nice fish!


"Peter Charles" wrote in message
...
Haven't visited here in a while but thought you guys might like this
one.

http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/bass1.jpg

24 1/4" taken off of a Grindstone Angling drift boat, just north of
Walkerton, Ontario on the Saugeen River, using a deerhair popper.
Came out from under a sunken tree in about 8' of water to nail it.
Took a lot to keep him from going back down under that tree.





Peter

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[email protected] September 1st, 2005 04:39 PM

Yup, it was a tussle alright, especially as she went straight for the
log as soon as the hook bit. The 8 wt. was bent double trying to keep
her out of it.


[email protected] September 1st, 2005 05:01 PM

Not yet but the chinook have started -- we saw a couple.


Ken Fortenberry September 1st, 2005 05:31 PM

wrote:
Yup, it was a tussle alright, especially as she went straight for the
log as soon as the hook bit. The 8 wt. was bent double trying to keep
her out of it.


An 8wt for smallies ?!?

Gawd, what a wuss. Why don't you just use a construction
crane and winch 'em in ? ;-)

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[email protected] September 1st, 2005 05:46 PM

BMFIA

I can understand you using that 1 wt. I sold ya on those wussy
Illinoise fish but real fish need a man's rod.

I was going to take a 6 wt. instead but because of the threat of
muskies, I didn't. After hooking that beastie, I'm glad I didn't.


Scott Seidman September 1st, 2005 06:56 PM

Peter Charles wrote in
:

24 1/4" taken off of a Grindstone Angling drift boat, just north of
Walkerton, Ontario on the Saugeen River, using a deerhair popper.
Came out from under a sunken tree in about 8' of water to nail it.
Took a lot to keep him from going back down under that tree.



That's a trophy smallmouth-- estimated by length at more than 7 pounds on
the NYS charts,
(http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/d.../foe4cwgf.html). Its bigger
than last years angler achievement award recipients. You mounting it??

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Ken Fortenberry September 1st, 2005 11:06 PM

wrote:
BMFIA


LOL, that'll require a translation on this newsgroup. ;-)

I can understand you using that 1 wt. I sold ya on those wussy
Illinoise fish ...


It's a nice enough little bluegill rod around here but
where it really shines is on those tiny mountain streams
in North Carolina. If you ever get your Canuckistani butt
back down to the mountains of North Carolina you'll rue
the day you sold it to me.

but real fish need a man's rod.


Piffle. I was using a 10' *7wt* T&T XL on the Muskegon.

I was going to take a 6 wt. instead but because of the threat of
muskies, I didn't. After hooking that beastie, I'm glad I didn't.


Do muskies actually hit deer hair poppers ?

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Peter Charles September 1st, 2005 11:52 PM

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 22:06:12 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
BMFIA


LOL, that'll require a translation on this newsgroup. ;-)


I'll leave that in your capable hands.

I can understand you using that 1 wt. I sold ya on those wussy
Illinoise fish ...


It's a nice enough little bluegill rod around here but
where it really shines is on those tiny mountain streams
in North Carolina. If you ever get your Canuckistani butt
back down to the mountains of North Carolina you'll rue
the day you sold it to me.


Would love to do the Smokies again but I can't offer you anymore truck
rides though -- I drive a little oil burner now. I'm sure that will
disappoint . . .

but real fish need a man's rod.


Piffle. I was using a 10' *7wt* T&T XL on the Muskegon.


and a guide that was netting your fish 50 feet downstream BSEG

I was going to take a 6 wt. instead but because of the threat of
muskies, I didn't. After hooking that beastie, I'm glad I didn't.


Do muskies actually hit deer hair poppers ?


Do they? No kidding.

One picked John's bluegill popper clean off in about a foot of water
next to the bank. Just that familiar jaw thrust out of the water, a
swirl, and then the popper floating free downstream about 30 seconds
later.

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Peter Charles September 1st, 2005 11:53 PM

On 1 Sep 2005 17:56:45 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote in
:

24 1/4" taken off of a Grindstone Angling drift boat, just north of
Walkerton, Ontario on the Saugeen River, using a deerhair popper.
Came out from under a sunken tree in about 8' of water to nail it.
Took a lot to keep him from going back down under that tree.



That's a trophy smallmouth-- estimated by length at more than 7 pounds on
the NYS charts,
(http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/d.../foe4cwgf.html). Its bigger
than last years angler achievement award recipients. You mounting it??



We thought it was over 6 -- now we know for sure. Mounted? Never
thought of it till you mentioned it but it's an idea. Doubt if I'll
ever get one much bigger -- they don't make 'em much bigger.

Peter

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Ken Fortenberry September 2nd, 2005 12:07 AM

Peter Charles wrote:

... Doubt if I'll
ever get one much bigger -- they don't make 'em much bigger.


Oh, they make 'em bigger. If you weren't so allergic
to canoes I could take you to a place in Quetico
where every third smallie you catch is a "trophy"
by Scott's definition.

Forget the taxidermy though, it's a good three day
paddle to the nearest taxidermist and if I had any
ice in the canoe it'd be cooling Budweiser not fish. ;-)

--
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Peter Charles September 2nd, 2005 12:15 AM

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 23:07:36 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote:

... Doubt if I'll
ever get one much bigger -- they don't make 'em much bigger.


Oh, they make 'em bigger. If you weren't so allergic
to canoes I could take you to a place in Quetico
where every third smallie you catch is a "trophy"
by Scott's definition.

Forget the taxidermy though, it's a good three day
paddle to the nearest taxidermist and if I had any
ice in the canoe it'd be cooling Budweiser not fish. ;-)


Hey, I'm not allergic to canoes, only the ones you're drivin'.

About the ice, I vote for the fish. I'm thinking a plastic mount done
from the pictures.

Peter

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Scott Seidman September 2nd, 2005 02:57 PM

Peter Charles wrote in
:

About the ice, I vote for the fish. I'm thinking a plastic mount done
from the pictures.

Peter


I'd always opt for the plastic mount over a real mount. "Mounted" was
figurative.

Maybe I'll glom onto Ken's invite, and try to catch one of my own. Hell,
I'd even drink Bud if I were on that water, so long as there was some
Leapfrog to wash the taste out ;)

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Scott Seidman September 2nd, 2005 03:04 PM

Peter Charles wrote in
:

About the ice, I vote for the fish. I'm thinking a plastic mount done
from the pictures.


While we're chatting, ya wanna do Sandy Creek this year? Maybe we can get
together with our Buffalo friend, and spend a weekend doing Sandy and the
Cat, hotelling out of the Buffalo area. I've never fished the Cat.

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[email protected] September 2nd, 2005 03:11 PM

That's an idea though I'll have no vacations days left at that point so
it'll have to be a weekend. How's the Sandy -- big enough to swing a
two-hander?

BTW, you must be really desperate to catch a decent smallie if you're
willing to drink Forty's Bud.

Peter


Scott Seidman September 2nd, 2005 03:56 PM

wrote in news:1125670318.528141.262980
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

That's an idea though I'll have no vacations days left at that point so
it'll have to be a weekend. How's the Sandy -- big enough to swing a
two-hander?

BTW, you must be really desperate to catch a decent smallie if you're
willing to drink Forty's Bud.

Peter



Sandy can handle a two hander, I would think. It's definitely becoming a
destination-- the guides from out west (well, scabs actually) bring their
sports from Oak Orchard to Sandy to the Salmon River.

A cold Bud is perfectly welcome on a hot day with hot fishing!!



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Ken Fortenberry September 2nd, 2005 04:28 PM

Scott Seidman wrote:
Peter Charles wrote:
... I'm thinking a plastic mount done
from the pictures.



I'd always opt for the plastic mount over a real mount.


I don't get plastic mounts. My feeling is, if you want to
hang a fish on your wall go ahead and hang a fish on your
wall. The recent popularity of plastic fish replacing real
taxidermy is another symptom of the Catch & Release ethos
run completely amok. By the time a fish gets big enough to
be a trophy it has contributed more than it's fair share to
the gene pool and when I catch my trophy, (I haven't yet),
I'll take it to the taxidermist and have it done up right.

Maybe I'll glom onto Ken's invite, and try to catch one of my own. Hell,
I'd even drink Bud if I were on that water, so long as there was some
Leapfrog to wash the taste out ;)


I've got the canoes if you've got the time. Just kidding
about the Bud, no way do I lug beer, not even the King of
Beers ;-), over a mile long portage, but there will always
be plenty of Laphroaig. ;-)

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Ken Fortenberry

Scott Seidman September 3rd, 2005 12:19 AM

Ken Fortenberry wrote in news:Hc_Re.7893
:

The recent popularity of plastic fish replacing real
taxidermy is another symptom of the Catch & Release ethos
run completely amok.


Not at all. Fish are not easy mounts. It's easier to care for a plastic
fish, and it will look better after years of hanging on the wall. I'd
prefer a plastic mount, even if I handed the fish to the taxidermist so he
could make a better replica.

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Ken Fortenberry September 3rd, 2005 12:34 AM

Scott Seidman wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
The recent popularity of plastic fish replacing real
taxidermy is another symptom of the Catch & Release ethos
run completely amok.


Not at all. Fish are not easy mounts. It's easier to care for a plastic
fish, and it will look better after years of hanging on the wall. I'd
prefer a plastic mount, even if I handed the fish to the taxidermist so he
could make a better replica.


A piece of plastic just ain't the same. It will never be
the actual fish with which you did battle. If you shot a
moose, would you take a picture and have a plastic moose
head mounted ? How about a polyester "bear skin" rug, that
has to be easier to care for than the real thing.

Nah, no plastic for me, thank you very much. If all I want
is a memento I'll just frame the picture.

--
Ken Fortenberry


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