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Matt September 11th, 2005 03:11 AM

Gear for great whites
 
I'm not a fisherman, just someone who writes on a variety of wildlife
topics. It was interesting to read that some of the largest great
whites ever taken were caught with a rod and reel. If one were to fish
for the largest great whites - 5 meters and up - what sort of rig would
one use - rod, hook, line, and leader?

Thanks,

Matt Bille


Rodney September 11th, 2005 03:53 AM

Matt wrote:
I'm not a fisherman, just someone who writes on a variety of wildlife
topics. It was interesting to read that some of the largest great
whites ever taken were caught with a rod and reel. If one were to fish
for the largest great whites - 5 meters and up - what sort of rig would
one use -



rod,
Big Stiff one


hook,

Big Stiff one

line,

Big Stiff one

and leader?

Big steel stiff one


Ok I've been funny

Now for he facts

any good trolling rod rated for 100 to 200 test line

There are plenty of large hooks available something around 5 to 6 inches
in the gap would work fine.

On line I personally would not want over 100#, you must remember the
fisherman has to hold on, and crank against that minnow, and your going
to have to do it for a few hours, you can only hold back so much
pressure for just so long, the thing is, you need a LOT of line, so you
need the biggest reel made, and a boat caption that knows how to help
you get the line back.

Now on the leader, it must be long enough , you don't want that tail
cutting your mono, and it must be large enough so the shark can't bite
through it. You would want the biggest available steel you can find,,
some use 1/4 inch chain between the hook and leader.


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Matt September 11th, 2005 04:00 AM

Thank you very much.

What would that line be made of? Does monofilament come in that
weight?

And is your average trolling rod (assuming a skillful fisherman) able
to handle a 900kg fish? I would be curious if you had a
recommendation.

Would you also need a boat with a strap-in fighting chair, as used for
marlin, etc.?

Thanks for answering a curious neophyte's questions.

Regards,
Matt


Rodney September 11th, 2005 12:39 PM

Matt wrote:
Thank you very much.

What would that line be made of? Does monofilament come in that
weight?


Yes Mono does, but I would probably use Spectra, as you could get a lot
more on the reel

And is your average trolling rod (assuming a skillful fisherman) able
to handle a 900kg fish? I would be curious if you had a
recommendation.


Remember your only fighting what the drag setting is on the reel, the
bigger the fish, the "longer" the fight, not more pull against you. Any
good bill fish rod will work

Would you also need a boat with a strap-in fighting chair, as used for
marlin, etc.?


I don't know of any other way a man could endure such a long fight with
out one.

I have landed 600+ lb sharks from the beach using just 20 lb line, with
my drag set at 15 lbs, the fights took hours, and wore my butt out just
holding and cranking against 15 lbs. (knowing how to make a fish turn
back to you, ( at least for a while) to gather line, is the key to
landing these guys from the beach, otherwise they just spool you (take
all your line to the end, and braking it at the reel)

Thanks for answering a curious neophyte's questions.

Regards,
Matt



--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Bill McKee September 12th, 2005 03:17 AM


"Matt" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm not a fisherman, just someone who writes on a variety of wildlife
topics. It was interesting to read that some of the largest great
whites ever taken were caught with a rod and reel. If one were to fish
for the largest great whites - 5 meters and up - what sort of rig would
one use - rod, hook, line, and leader?

Thanks,

Matt Bille


A bigger boat. ;) And a very good attorney and lots of money to pay the
fines if fishing in the USA.



Jim E.. September 13th, 2005 01:07 PM


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Matt" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm not a fisherman, just someone who writes on a variety of wildlife
topics. It was interesting to read that some of the largest great
whites ever taken were caught with a rod and reel. If one were to fish
for the largest great whites - 5 meters and up - what sort of rig would
one use - rod, hook, line, and leader?

Thanks,

Matt Bille


A bigger boat. ;) And a very good attorney and lots of money to pay the
fines if fishing in the USA.


Why?



Rodney September 14th, 2005 03:34 PM

Jim E.. wrote:

A bigger boat. ;) And a very good attorney and lots of money to pay the
fines if fishing in the USA.



Why?



Great Whites are now a protected species

The Shark huggers won another one


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Bill McKee September 15th, 2005 08:01 PM


"Rodney" wrote in message
...
Jim E.. wrote:

A bigger boat. ;) And a very good attorney and lots of money to pay the
fines if fishing in the USA.



Why?



Great Whites are now a protected species

The Shark huggers won another one


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com


Very slow growing, and not an extreme amount of them. And they eat sea
lions. Not enough of them, but they do eat them. Sure, they get a person
once in awhile, but is normally a mistake as they think they are a seal /
sea lion. Majestic fish.



Rodney September 16th, 2005 01:34 AM

Bill McKee wrote:
Sure, they get a person
once in awhile, but is normally a mistake as they think they are a seal /
sea lion.


When did someone learn how to read the mind of a fish ? How do they
know what a shark "thinks"

!,000,000 sharks are not worth one person's life

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Bill McKee September 16th, 2005 05:06 AM


"Rodney" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
Sure, they get a person once in awhile, but is normally a mistake as they
think they are a seal / sea lion.


When did someone learn how to read the mind of a fish ? How do they know
what a shark "thinks"

!,000,000 sharks are not worth one person's life

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com


Had an aquaintance killed by a whity a year ago. He knew the risks of
diving in the area. He still supported the ban on catching white sharks.
Your version, says kill all the deer, as they cause auto accidents that kill
people. Life is not risk free.



Rodney September 16th, 2005 04:55 PM

Bill McKee wrote:

Had an aquaintance killed by a whity a year ago. He knew the risks of
diving in the area. He still supported the ban on catching white sharks.


I bet right before he died, he changed his mind.




Your version, says kill all the deer, as they cause auto accidents that kill
people. Life is not risk free.



An accident is one thing, an attack with intent to kill is another. I
bet your friend didn't carry a bang stick either, because he would
rather die, than kill a great white, he probably would have been
arrested if he had killed the shark before it killed him.

Bull Sharks are the most dangerous of all sharks, I think that every
bull shark caught along beaches where swimmers go should be killed,,
reduce the numbers that swim along the beaches, leave those who don't,
alone. Right now many states don't allow you to even fish for sharks
from the beach, and some don't allow the killing of bull sharks.




--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com


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