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CR April 5th, 2004 03:16 PM

Pond boat for creek?
 
I've been experimenting with different ways to fish a small rocky
creek where I live. I've tried wading and drifting in a canoe. The
problem with wading is I can't get to most of the good spots. The
problem with the canoe is that it's hard to cast from. The main
problem is you can't turn around or stand up in a canoe. I used to
have a small plastic pond boat called a bass hunter. It was made with
ABS plastic and had 2 swivel seats and a hookup for a trolling motor.
I was wondering if that would work on the creek. If you're sitting you
can spin around and it's easy to stand up. My worry is how it handles
the riffles. There's nothing over class I, the biggest problem is when
the water is shallow you get stuck. I'm also wondering how hard it
will be to maneuver with a paddle. All I really need to do is keep the
boat in the middle. I'd prefer not to have to deal with a trolling
motor.

Are there any other types of boats that would work better?

Chuck.

Bob La Londe April 5th, 2004 03:27 PM

Pond boat for creek?
 
Maybe a float tube with suspenders so you can walk with it? There are a
couple different types of fins you can use. A lot of guys use regular swim
fins to move the rig. They are very effective, but you are pretty much only
moving backwards. There are also some that go on the sides of your feet
that aloow you to move forward. I have never tried those. You might post a
quesy to Doc(TheTinBoatKing) because he was formerly Doc(TheFloatTubeKing)
in this newsgroup.
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"CR" wrote in message
om...
I've been experimenting with different ways to fish a small rocky
creek where I live. I've tried wading and drifting in a canoe. The
problem with wading is I can't get to most of the good spots. The
problem with the canoe is that it's hard to cast from. The main
problem is you can't turn around or stand up in a canoe. I used to
have a small plastic pond boat called a bass hunter. It was made with
ABS plastic and had 2 swivel seats and a hookup for a trolling motor.
I was wondering if that would work on the creek. If you're sitting you
can spin around and it's easy to stand up. My worry is how it handles
the riffles. There's nothing over class I, the biggest problem is when
the water is shallow you get stuck. I'm also wondering how hard it
will be to maneuver with a paddle. All I really need to do is keep the
boat in the middle. I'd prefer not to have to deal with a trolling
motor.

Are there any other types of boats that would work better?

Chuck.




bill allemann April 5th, 2004 07:23 PM

Pond boat for creek?
 
I would try a small jonboat. They are surprisingly light weight, and very
maneuverable with a pair
of oars. Due to the large wetted area, they draw far less water than the
catamaran style
boats.
Bill
"CR" wrote in message
om...
I've been experimenting with different ways to fish a small rocky
creek where I live. I've tried wading and drifting in a canoe. The
problem with wading is I can't get to most of the good spots. The
problem with the canoe is that it's hard to cast from. The main
problem is you can't turn around or stand up in a canoe. I used to
have a small plastic pond boat called a bass hunter. It was made with
ABS plastic and had 2 swivel seats and a hookup for a trolling motor.
I was wondering if that would work on the creek. If you're sitting you
can spin around and it's easy to stand up. My worry is how it handles
the riffles. There's nothing over class I, the biggest problem is when
the water is shallow you get stuck. I'm also wondering how hard it
will be to maneuver with a paddle. All I really need to do is keep the
boat in the middle. I'd prefer not to have to deal with a trolling
motor.

Are there any other types of boats that would work better?

Chuck.



Lure builder April 5th, 2004 10:47 PM

Pond boat for creek?
 
You might want to try a folding boat. They have a wider beam than a canoe.
Also they are easy to store and transport. I think they would be an ideal pond
boat.

Bill Kiene April 6th, 2004 08:49 AM

Pond boat for creek?
 
Take a look at this boat?

http://www.kickboat.com/


--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"CR" wrote in message
om...

I've been experimenting with different ways to fish a small rocky
creek where I live. I've tried wading and drifting in a canoe. The
problem with wading is I can't get to most of the good spots. The
problem with the canoe is that it's hard to cast from. The main
problem is you can't turn around or stand up in a canoe. I used to
have a small plastic pond boat called a bass hunter. It was made with
ABS plastic and had 2 swivel seats and a hookup for a trolling motor.
I was wondering if that would work on the creek. If you're sitting you
can spin around and it's easy to stand up. My worry is how it handles
the riffles. There's nothing over class I, the biggest problem is when
the water is shallow you get stuck. I'm also wondering how hard it
will be to maneuver with a paddle. All I really need to do is keep the
boat in the middle. I'd prefer not to have to deal with a trolling
motor.

Are there any other types of boats that would work better?

Chuck.




CR April 6th, 2004 02:58 PM

Pond boat for creek?
 
"bill allemann" wrote in message om...

I would try a small jonboat. They are surprisingly light weight, and very
maneuverable with a pair
of oars. Due to the large wetted area, they draw far less water than the
catamaran style
boats.


That's a good idea. Some drawbacks are that aluminum sticks to rocks
plus its harder to mount a swivel seat.

One thing I may try is using chest waders instead of hip waders. Maybe
if I bring the canoe and just get out and use the chest waders I can
cover more ground.

Doc \(The Tin Boat King\) April 6th, 2004 08:18 PM

Pond boat for creek?
 
Be sure and attach a small sheeth knife to the suspenders. Suddenly stepping into a hole over your head can require emergency
surgery to the waders to prevent drowning. As for a float tube they are to bulky to navigate a stream that has trouble floating a
boat. Remember, the whole lower half of your body is hanging out the bottom of the float tube. Doc
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"CR" wrote in message om...
"bill allemann" wrote in message om...

One thing I may try is using chest waders instead of hip waders.



CR April 6th, 2004 11:16 PM

Pond boat for creek?
 
"Bill Kiene" wrote in message . com...
Take a look at this boat?

http://www.kickboat.com/


Where're his legs? :)

It might work a little better, since you can turn the boat around
easier than a canoe. I'm still wondering if its better to be able to
turn yourself around instead of the entire boat. I'm also going to try
chest waders instead of hip waders. That may solve my problem. Maybe
to where I don't even need a boat most of the time.

CR April 14th, 2004 03:56 PM

Pond boat for creek?
 
(CR) wrote in message

. com...
I've been experimenting with different ways to fish a small rocky
creek where I live. I've tried wading and drifting in a canoe. The
problem with wading is I can't get to most of the good spots. The
problem with the canoe is that it's hard to cast from.


I tried a pair of breathable chest waders instead of hip waders and
they made a huge difference. I was able to get just about anywhere I
needed to. I didn't realize it but chest waders almost double the
depth you can go. Major difference.

And I actually caught fish! Amazing!

Calif Bill April 14th, 2004 06:26 PM

Pond boat for creek?
 

"CR" wrote in message
om...
(CR) wrote in message

. com...
I've been experimenting with different ways to fish a small rocky
creek where I live. I've tried wading and drifting in a canoe. The
problem with wading is I can't get to most of the good spots. The
problem with the canoe is that it's hard to cast from.


I tried a pair of breathable chest waders instead of hip waders and
they made a huge difference. I was able to get just about anywhere I
needed to. I didn't realize it but chest waders almost double the
depth you can go. Major difference.

And I actually caught fish! Amazing!


Always wear a tight belt around the waist of chest waders!!!!! The life you
save may be your own. Keeps the waders from filling up fast. if you step
into deeper water or fall down. You can actually swim back to shallow water
instead of crawling along the bottom. The voice of experience speaks.



Allen June 10th, 2004 03:05 AM

Pond boat for creek?
 
put a pontoon on the both sides of the canoe, but don't let it
touch the water, but just low enough that if the canoe
starts to tilt it touch and will stop the canoe from flipping.
worked great for me on the Susquehanna with my canoe.
and just as good on my sit on top fishing kayak down here
in Fla fishing for red fish on flats ..and for sharks in the surf !
Allen
"CR" wrote in message
om...
I've been experimenting with different ways to fish a small rocky
creek where I live. I've tried wading and drifting in a canoe. The
problem with wading is I can't get to most of the good spots. The
problem with the canoe is that it's hard to cast from. The main
problem is you can't turn around or stand up in a canoe. I used to
have a small plastic pond boat called a bass hunter. It was made with
ABS plastic and had 2 swivel seats and a hookup for a trolling motor.
I was wondering if that would work on the creek. If you're sitting you
can spin around and it's easy to stand up. My worry is how it handles
the riffles. There's nothing over class I, the biggest problem is when
the water is shallow you get stuck. I'm also wondering how hard it
will be to maneuver with a paddle. All I really need to do is keep the
boat in the middle. I'd prefer not to have to deal with a trolling
motor.

Are there any other types of boats that would work better?

Chuck.




Rodney June 10th, 2004 04:34 AM

Pond boat for creek?
 
Allen wrote:



Are there any other types of boats that would work better?

Chuck.




They make a 6 wheel drive amphibs' that will float you down a creek,
and drive you across the shallows, even drive you to the creek :-)


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com


Joe Z June 10th, 2004 05:04 AM

Pond boat for creek?
 
Allen wrote:

Are there any other types of boats that would work better?

Chuck.

They make a 6 wheel drive amphibs' that will float you down a creek,
and drive you across the shallows, even drive you to the creek :-)

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Naw, this would be much better. ;-) Joe Z.
http://www.watercar.com/



[email protected] June 11th, 2004 01:05 AM

Pond boat for creek?
 
Yep. I think you're making it much more complicated and expensive than
it needs to be. Look at a belly boat (in some parts of the couuntry
they are called float tubes) Cabellas, Orvis and several other places
have them.....you can try out a cheap once from under $75. It will
floatt you where evey you want to go -- ride the riffles, and you can
walk it through the shallows.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...rd-item.jhtml?
id=0001334313789a&navAction=jump&navCount=1&indexI d=&podId=0001334&
catalogCode=IE&parentId=&parentType=&rid=&_DARGS=% 2Fcabelas%2Fen%
2Fcommon%2Fcatalog%2Fitem-link.jhtml.1_A&_DAV=search&hasJS=true


Allen
"CR" wrote in message
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Are there any other types of boats that would work better?

Chuck.





Uncle Dave June 11th, 2004 02:52 AM

Pond boat for creek?
 
Riverwire sells several sizes of personal "watercraft" from float tubes to a
2-person stand-up pontoon.
There's a link to them (and links to some of their videos) on my website.

Uncle Dave
Uncle Dave's Fishin' and Lyin' Emporium
http://www.commonfolks.com/UncleDavesFishin

wrote in message
...
Yep. I think you're making it much more complicated and expensive than
it needs to be. Look at a belly boat (in some parts of the couuntry
they are called float tubes) Cabellas, Orvis and several other places
have them.....you can try out a cheap once from under $75. It will
floatt you where evey you want to go -- ride the riffles, and you can
walk it through the shallows.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...rd-item.jhtml?
id=0001334313789a&navAction=jump&navCount=1&indexI d=&podId=0001334&
catalogCode=IE&parentId=&parentType=&rid=&_DARGS=% 2Fcabelas%2Fen%
2Fcommon%2Fcatalog%2Fitem-link.jhtml.1_A&_DAV=search&hasJS=true


Allen
"CR" wrote in message
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Are there any other types of boats that would work better?

Chuck.









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