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Fly Boxes -- Advice?
I'm thinking of replacing the foam cheapies I'm currently using.
Wondering which types/brands you guys use, and why. I've been thinking of something similar to a small Plano box with a bunch of compartments. Keep a bunch of different flies together in one spot and that sort of thing. The only downside to this (that I can see, anyway) is that if you tip it over or drop it, you're in for a really bad day. I'm pretty sure I like my current general organization -- one medium (3" x 5" (??)) box for mays, one for caddis and stone patterns, one for streamers/nymphs, and one for bigger flies/whatever I pick up at the shop before hitting the river. I am of course open to suggestions on this aspect, also. I'd like to keep the cost reasonable (mebbe 100-150 max for the whole set), but if something costs a little more, not a major issue. Muchas gracias, Dan Who had a great time troutin' during the salmon run on the PM last weekend. |
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Daniel-San wrote:
I'm thinking of replacing the foam cheapies I'm currently using. Wondering which types/brands you guys use, and why. C&F swingleaf. Holds about 1000 midges and small nymphs. C&F regular. Doesn't crush hackles on dry flies. Both are lightweight. Orvis/Cortland Nubby Tack plastic box for streamers C&F microslit is not good for holding all but the smallest streamers. Also not good for holding weighted streamers like clousers. Otterbox waterproof compartment box for small sal****er bugs Otterbox waterproof Nubby Tack box for sal****er sreamers Mu |
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:04:28 GMT, "Daniel-San"
wrote: I'm thinking of replacing the foam cheapies I'm currently using. Wondering which types/brands you guys use, and why. Perrine 66 aluminum fly boxes. Holds about 60 flies on six sets of clips with wire rings inside. Holds up nice and lasts a long time. Can get a little congested with the flies on each row, but fit in the vest or shirt pocket right nice. |
And they float so good.
"Allyn Vaughn" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:04:28 GMT, "Daniel-San" wrote: I'm thinking of replacing the foam cheapies I'm currently using. Wondering which types/brands you guys use, and why. Perrine 66 aluminum fly boxes. Holds about 60 flies on six sets of clips with wire rings inside. Holds up nice and lasts a long time. Can get a little congested with the flies on each row, but fit in the vest or shirt pocket right nice. |
Allyn,
Send me your snail mail address and I'll send you a brand new Perrine box that I "won" at a ROFF raffle. You're the first person I'm aware of that really likes those boxes. When you see a Perrine box it's usually filled with rusty old flies from 30 years ago. Seriously, I'd be happy to send it to you and it might even have a few (new) flies in it when it arrives! bruce h |
Allyn Vaughn wrote in
: Perrine 66 aluminum fly boxes. Holds about 60 flies on six sets of clips with wire rings inside. Holds up nice and lasts a long time. Can get a little congested with the flies on each row, but fit in the vest or shirt pocket right nice. I've never heard of anyone else finding these boxes anywhere near useful. I avoid them like the plague. -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
For my small flies I have a great plano box that has a row of soft foam ribs
I stick the hooks into. It easily hold 30-40 small flies, and I keep a couple spare leaders and stuff in the other side of the box. For the big poppers and streamers I have a hard plastic divider box. -- -- Bob La Londe Win a Spinnerbait Tackle Kit Spinnerbait Tips & Tricks Contest Through the Month of September 2005 http://www.YumaBassMan.com |
In article , Daniel-San
wrote: I'm thinking of replacing the foam cheapies I'm currently using. Wondering which types/brands you guys use, and why. I use mainly Wheatley boxes for dry flies (although when I'm in Ireland I use a wonderful American "CommonSense" wet and dry fly leather fly book) Neither of these is perhaps the most efficient for the job, but, dammit, they're beautiful, like my 8' Hardy cane rod, my Hardy Perfect reel, and my Phoenix silk line. And all of them catch all the fish I really want. Lazarus -- Remover the rock from the email address |
Lazarus Cooke wrote: my Hardy Perfect reel, If you ever run accross a left hand retrieve perfect for sale in a small size, please drop me an email. thanks wayne |
Wayne Knight wrote:
Lazarus Cooke wrote: my Hardy Perfect reel, If you ever run accross a left hand retrieve perfect for sale in a small size, please drop me an email. I have a left retrieve 3 1/8" Hardy Perfect, it's loaded with a Cortland Sylk DT4 and I use it on my Zimboo. Make me an offer, if it's over 4 figures I'll throw in the fly line. ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry |
Ken Fortenberry wrote in news:l5_Ye.1358
: I have a left retrieve 3 1/8" Hardy Perfect, it's loaded with a Cortland Sylk DT4 and I use it on my Zimboo. Make me an offer, if it's over 4 figures I'll throw in the fly line. ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry If you mean significant digits, I'll go $23.01 -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
Ken Fortenberry wrote: I have a left retrieve 3 1/8" Hardy Perfect, it's loaded with a Cortland Sylk DT4 and I use it on my Zimboo. Make me an offer, if it's over 4 figures I'll throw in the fly line. ;-) If I remember the story corectly, I could never insult you by offering 4 figures for taking the memories of the fine gift of a reel you were given by your professor. But if there's a graphite or glass rod you're interested in :) |
Lazarus Cooke wrote:
In article , Daniel-San wrote: I'm thinking of replacing the foam cheapies I'm currently using. Wondering which types/brands you guys use, and why. I use mainly Wheatley boxes for dry flies (although when I'm in Ireland I use a wonderful American "CommonSense" wet and dry fly leather fly book) Neither of these is perhaps the most efficient for the job, but, dammit, they're beautiful, like my 8' Hardy cane rod, my Hardy Perfect reel, and my Phoenix silk line. And all of them catch all the fish I really want. Morrel foam boxes is all I put in my vest these days. I have a Wheatley and a Okuma "Wheatley knockoff." They both suck, but the Okuma is the better of the two. Regardless, both are consigned to the very bottom of one of my never-to-be-used-again gear boxes. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
Wayne Knight wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: I have a left retrieve 3 1/8" Hardy Perfect, it's loaded with a Cortland Sylk DT4 and I use it on my Zimboo. Make me an offer, if it's over 4 figures I'll throw in the fly line. ;-) If I remember the story corectly, I could never insult you by offering 4 figures for taking the memories of the fine gift of a reel you were given by your professor. He wasn't *my* professor, he was an English Prof who thought a NeXT was just what he needed to facilitate handwriting analysis of medieval scrolls. Apparently there is value in knowing which particular monk did the transcribing of the scroll. I was the NeXT guy on campus but I couldn't help him much officially during working hours because he didn't have any money so I set up NeXT boxes at his office and his home after hours and on weekends. The folks who did have money were mostly asshole chemists and engineers so it was my pleasure to do computer weenie stuff for an English Prof and I never asked for a thing in return except beer. When it was all done he gave me a first edition of _Muriel Foster's Fishing Diary_ and a Hardy Perfect. And you're right, I'd no sooner part with that reel than with the Zimboo rod I pair it with. -- Ken Fortenberry |
Scott Seidman wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: Make me an offer, if it's over 4 figures I'll throw in the fly line. ;-) If you mean significant digits, I'll go $23.01 Just kidding, Scott. Notice the ;-) and see my response to Wayne. -- Ken Fortenberry |
the very bottom of one of my never-to-be-used-again gear boxes. DISCLAIMER: This is one of LarryL's weird off thread replies to nobody in particular .... boring stuff to follow That never-to-be-used-again gear box has been giving me headaches lately. I've seen a few people pass on the last couple years leaving so much 'stuff' behind it was a real pain for their loved ones. So, I'm cleaning out my ****, determined to stop being a slave to crap I own and even more determined to avoid making others deal with it, when I can't. The problem? It's damn hard to ashcan "perfectly good ****." g But each week I manage something, toss an old rod, fly box, decoys, or something. Fwiw, it always brings a very real feeling of freedom to see the long unused crap go, but it's still hard to throw it out .... in our culture we're so trained to "want more, more, more, and consume, consume, consume" that the idea of wanting to own a lot less seems a bit evil. I have a 40ft X 60ft shop that has collected junk for years, my goal is to see it empty, or damn near so. |
"Larry L" wrote in message ... the very bottom of one of my never-to-be-used-again gear boxes. DISCLAIMER: This is one of LarryL's weird off thread replies to nobody in particular .... boring stuff to follow That never-to-be-used-again gear box has been giving me headaches lately. I've seen a few people pass on the last couple years leaving so much 'stuff' behind it was a real pain for their loved ones. So, I'm cleaning out my ****, determined to stop being a slave to crap I own and even more determined to avoid making others deal with it, when I can't. The problem? It's damn hard to ashcan "perfectly good ****." g But each week I manage something, toss an old rod, fly box, decoys, or something. Fwiw, it always brings a very real feeling of freedom to see the long unused crap go, but it's still hard to throw it out .... in our culture we're so trained to "want more, more, more, and consume, consume, consume" that the idea of wanting to own a lot less seems a bit evil. I have a 40ft X 60ft shop that has collected junk for years, my goal is to see it empty, or damn near so. Throwing the stuff away doesn't solve the problem. It IS the problem. Wolfgang only in murrica. |
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:52:00 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote: (snipped) Fwiw, it always brings a very real feeling of freedom to see the long unused crap go, but it's still hard to throw it out .... Why are you throwing it away? Doesn't anyone else want it? You don't have to eBay it, but a garage sale would be good. Or finding a local teacher with students who could use it. My local Goodwill has very little sports equipment. Your local charity store might want some. It took us months to find a family that wanted and needed the almost new kid bunk bed we were giving away. It suited them perfectly and we glowed with the knowledge that it had gone to good use to someone who couldn't possibly have afforded it. Cyli r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels. Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. http://www.visi.com/~cyli email: lid (strip the .invalid to email) |
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From: "Wolfgang" Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 2:16 AM Subject: Fly Boxes -- Advice? SNIP Throwing the stuff away doesn't solve the problem. It IS the problem. Wolfgang only in murrica. Wishing to possess it all in the first place is the real problem! .........and not only in "murrica". One can be a slave to ones posessions. Having to get rid of a lot of stuff that belonged to somebody else is also a terrible chore. TL MC |
Mike Connor wrote:
Wishing to possess it all in the first place is the real problem! ........and not only in "murrica". One can be a slave to ones posessions. Having to get rid of a lot of stuff that belonged to somebody else is also a terrible chore. Gawd damn, it sure is good to hear from you Mike. Your chores are heavy of heart and please accept my sympathies. -- Ken Fortenberry |
"Ken Fortenberry" schrieb im Newsbeitrag . .. SNIP Gawd damn, it sure is good to hear from you Mike. Your chores are heavy of heart and please accept my sympathies. -- Ken Fortenberry I finally got a DSL flatrate, so the spam etc wont bother me much anymore! Thank you. TL MC |
"Wolfgang" wrote Throwing the stuff away doesn't solve the problem. It IS the problem. I agree and I bet many shiny nickels that I have tossed far less in my life that still had usable life in it than "Joe Average Merican" I drive a 1992 truck with 241,000 miles and most of my fly rods are 20+ years old, as examples. I'd love a new rod for stillwaters, have wanted it for probably 10 years, but refuse to buy one as long as my 25+ year old Scott is still alive ... I refuse for 'environmental ethics' reasons, not financial That said, it is amazing how much 'stuff' gets bought, used little, and then stored. Example: I have 6 dozen heads ONLY for shell goose decoys ... I can remember that I really 'needed' them for something, back when, but lord knows what. Hehe, I checked the mfg's website and the replacement heads are $6/ea. .... I'll try E-Baying them but I wouldn't be surprized to get zero bids ... I offered them free to at least half dozen local hunters. |
"Cyli" wrote Why are you throwing it away? Doesn't anyone else want it? You don't have to eBay it, but a garage sale would be good. Or finding a local teacher with students who could use it. My local Goodwill has very little sports equipment. Your local charity store might want some. "throw away" was my way of lumping a wide variety of actions into one heading We've had several garage sales, I've given many boxes of stuff to several different charities. Actually MY stuff is only a drop in the bucket, I am one of the people that got stuck with a full house and full barn full of other people's things and most of what I've been getting rid of is from that, not really my fishing stuff, I just mentioned it to try and stay 'on topic'. I took a full kitchen worth of dishes, pots, pans, etc. to a retired folks home for THEIR garage sale ( they asked for donations in the local paper ) and before I got it unloaded they were complaining I had brought too much g .... it was all quality items AFTER my wife and sister-in-law threw out anything damaged or whatever, quality brands from a upper class kitchen. I have a trailer full of sports stuff ranging from cross country skis to glass fly rods that I will try to give away, maybe E-Bay .... most of the sporting goods 'throw away' so far is really putting it into that trailer more than a garbage can. In all cases I've asked someone if they wanted it before putting it in the trailer. I think that sporting goods is actually one of the harder things to recycle .. Why? Because buying neat new **** is a big part of the sport's fun..right? Think back on all the "gotta a new Model Perfect Self Casting Super Rod and I'm now an emotionally balanced guy, ah, ... the joy of purchase ! " posts around here g I appreciate and share your position. But I will admit to some laziness, too. I had two complete computers of fairly high specs ... only the harddrives had been removed .... I had to make a couple dozen phone calls and then drive 80 miles to GIVE them away .... I started trying to give them to schools, then to kids ( the kid, not the class ) in computer science class, then .... ah, you get the idea. Such things get old and the garbage can starts to look good. MY point is not self defence, it is that it is harder to get rid of 'stuff' than most people realize. Harder than I would have ever thought, at least. |
"Larry L" wrote MY point is not self defence, it is that it is harder to get rid of 'stuff' than most people realize. Harder than I would have ever thought, at least. Oh, and I send a Loomis 3wt rod to a ROFFian I've never met, as a gift .... he seemed like a 'nice guy' ( haven't seen him here in many moons ) Clearly my desire to limit such gifts to 'good people' limits the number on ROFF G |
"Larry L" wrote MY point is not self defence, it is that it is harder to get rid of 'stuff' than most people realize. Harder than I would have ever thought, at least. At one point, back in my 'nerd year,' I wrote and tested locally( to my ability, I'm not too good at nerd ), most of the PHP scripts for a website I was going to call Free-Bay. It was to be an automated way for people with stuff to give and people that could use same to get together for the $$$Free exchange. At that same time, my 'nerd year,' I had several domains I built and maintained. Most were dog oriented and allowed large amounts of user input, one was pretty large and got a lot of visits. But, I soon discovered just how tacky 'average' Internet users are and spent far too much time removing garbage from sites I intended to be helpful to families and dog sports participants. The result of that headache is that ALL those domains went bye-bye, including the proposed Free-Bay. I still think the Free-Bay idea was a good one, maybe there is one out there? |
"Mike Connor" wrote in message ... Wishing to possess it all in the first place is the real problem! ........and not only in "murrica". One can be a slave to ones posessions. Having to get rid of a lot of stuff that belonged to somebody else is also a terrible chore. TL MC Good to hear from you again, Mike. Danl |
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 03:38:29 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote: "Larry L" wrote MY point is not self defence, it is that it is harder to get rid of 'stuff' than most people realize. Harder than I would have ever thought, at least. Okay. I jumped too hard on the 'give away.' Yes, I know. That beautiful kid bed almost made it to the trash twice while we tried to find a family for it. I still think the Free-Bay idea was a good one, maybe there is one out there? In MN we have some sort of newsgroup that offers free stuff. I think it's mostly used by folks in the Twin Cities, Duluth, and Rochester. If you're not in a big town, you sometimes find that A: people don't believe it's worth the gas to come and take a look or B: not enough believe anyone would simply give away stuff to make it worth putting in the group. If your state has a .general group, you could try mentioning some of it in there. And I still have a 1985 truck and would still have a 1987 car, but I inherited a 1999 car. Old one went to a charity, who were reluctant to take it until I mentioned the mileage was under 40K. It had been my mother's and then I used the bus a lot to get to work. The truck will have to wind up in the junkyard when its time comes. It gets 17 mpg on the highway. Sigh. Cyli r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels. Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. http://www.visi.com/~cyli email: lid (strip the .invalid to email) |
"Larry L" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... SNIP MY point is not self defence, it is that it is harder to get rid of 'stuff' than most people realize. Harder than I would have ever thought, at least. Indeed! One also discovers that things which cost a great deal of money, or had other intrinsic or sentimental value, are more or less worthless to others. TL MC |
On 23 Sep 2005 12:45:25 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote: Allyn Vaughn wrote in : Perrine 66 aluminum fly boxes. Holds about 60 flies on six sets of clips with wire rings inside. Holds up nice and lasts a long time. Can get a little congested with the flies on each row, but fit in the vest or shirt pocket right nice. I've never heard of anyone else finding these boxes anywhere near useful. I avoid them like the plague. I'm curious as to why you dont like them. I think the 66 version works great. The 60 (with the individual clips) is a pain but the 66 with the rows holds my flies nice. |
Muchas gracias, Dan Before this thread gets out of hand, just wanted to say thanks for the suggestions, gents. Dan So, uh, Muchas Gracias otra vez, I guess. |
"Larry L" wrote I still think the Free-Bay idea was a good one, maybe there is one out there? http://www.freecycle.org/ |
"Daniel-San" wrote Before this thread gets out of hand, just wanted to say thanks for the suggestions, gents. Oh, yeah, 'thread' I have several of the C&F boxes I've used the last two years .... I'd rate them 7.5 on a one to ten scale I use them because I tie all my own flies and 100% on barbless hooks ... the C&F slit design holds barbless better than other things I've tried, on a weight/bulk/accessibility/#of flies scale They are too much $$$ and have some silly, but not debilitating design problems and thus get only the 7.5 .... if I were in the market for more boxes I'd shop hard before spending C&F $$$ but would insist on a tight hold on barbless hooks Oh, I hate boxes with little compartments except for huge flies ( streamers and such ) ...trying to get ONE fly out of the tangled wad in the compartment is enough to drive me nuts |
Larry L wrote:
Oh, I hate boxes with little compartments except for huge flies ( streamers and such ) ...trying to get ONE fly out of the tangled wad in the compartment is enough to drive me nuts I hate the way those spring-loaded Wheatley and Wheatley rip-off boxes launch one or two flies into oblivion every time you open a compartment on a windy day. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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Allyn Vaughn wrote: On 23 Sep 2005 12:45:25 GMT, Scott Seidman wrote: Allyn Vaughn wrote in : Perrine 66 aluminum fly boxes. Holds about 60 flies on six sets of clips with wire rings inside. Holds up nice and lasts a long time. Can get a little congested with the flies on each row, but fit in the vest or shirt pocket right nice. I've never heard of anyone else finding these boxes anywhere near useful. I avoid them like the plague. I'm curious as to why you dont like them. I think the 66 version works great. The 60 (with the individual clips) is a pain but the 66 with the rows holds my flies nice. Scientific anglers system x boxes are very badass. -- Somewhere in Texas a village is missing their Idiot. |
Allyn Vaughn wrote in
: I'm curious as to why you dont like them. I think the 66 version works great. The 60 (with the individual clips) is a pain but the 66 with the rows holds my flies nice. I believe they hold water far too well, promoting rust. I always felt that is was far too difficult to remove flies with barbs, and they're useless below about a size 12 or 14, which are about the biggest dry flies that I have any use for around here. They're also relatively heavy. Couple that with the fact that I like comparmented boxes (and yes, there are cheap plastic ones without spring loaded tops for about $12) that don't crush hackles for dry flies, and very low profile slit foam boxes for nymphs. I guess the only advantages I find that the 66 has over your average, run of the mill, riffle foam box is it might hold barbless hooks more securely, but there are alot of negatives. -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
"Larry L" wrote in
: I use them because I tie all my own flies and 100% on barbless hooks ... the C&F slit design holds barbless better than other things I've tried, on a weight/bulk/accessibility/#of flies scale I have a C&F, slit foam on one side and compartments on the other. I've retired it. The best I've found for nymphs and other non-hackled flies is the Petitjean fly carrier, which is a ton of bang for the buck. http://www.feather-craft.com/2005MAs...ge.asp?page=56 For hackled dries, I like plastic compartmented boxes with a real hinge. These run about $12-$15. I can carry one of these, and two of the large Petitjean boxes, for less weight than my old C&F, and carry more flies. -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
On 26 Sep 2005 12:46:31 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote: Allyn Vaughn wrote in : I'm curious as to why you dont like them. I think the 66 version works great. The 60 (with the individual clips) is a pain but the 66 with the rows holds my flies nice. I believe they hold water far too well, promoting rust. I always felt that is was far too difficult to remove flies with barbs, and they're useless below about a size 12 or 14, which are about the biggest dry flies that I have any use for around here. They're also relatively heavy. Couple that with the fact that I like comparmented boxes (and yes, there are cheap plastic ones without spring loaded tops for about $12) that don't crush hackles for dry flies, and very low profile slit foam boxes for nymphs. I guess the only advantages I find that the 66 has over your average, run of the mill, riffle foam box is it might hold barbless hooks more securely, but there are alot of negatives. Good input. I seem to fish primarily with 12 and 14's with an occasional 16 or 18 and can relate to your comment on holding thewse size flies. I have not had much problem with them hodling water and causing rust, but maybe I fish to shallow of water g. I find the box suitable for my shirt or vest pocket so not very much a problem with size and have not noticed the weight. Thanks for the feedback. Allyn |
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Scott Seidman wrote: "Larry L" wrote in : I use them because I tie all my own flies and 100% on barbless hooks ... the C&F slit design holds barbless better than other things I've tried, on a weight/bulk/accessibility/#of flies scale I have a C&F, slit foam on one side and compartments on the other. I've retired it. The best I've found for nymphs and other non-hackled flies is the Petitjean fly carrier, which is a ton of bang for the buck. http://www.feather-craft.com/2005MAs...ge.asp?page=56 For hackled dries, I like plastic compartmented boxes with a real hinge. These run about $12-$15. I can carry one of these, and two of the large Petitjean boxes, for less weight than my old C&F, and carry more flies. Have you tried Scientific anglers system x box? For $19 it is a preety awesome box -- Somewhere in Texas a village is missing their Idiot. |
JDOE wrote in news:na-80D9C4.12495927092005
@comcast.dca.giganews.com: Have you tried Scientific anglers system x box? For $19 it is a preety awesome box I've tried them, and don't really like them. I like the shape--probably helps with pockets. It's fairly heavy, though, and I actually don't care for waterproof boxes. It might be superstition, but I prefer boxes that can breathe a bit. This box isn't any easier on hackle than everyday riffle foam, so I would still use a compartmented box for dries. I really don't like the latch. Also, the Petitjean boxes I mentioned aren't much bigger and heavier than the foam inserts for the system X. These really are the best I've tried -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
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