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Lionel F. Stevenson October 7th, 2005 02:43 PM

Which rod?
 
Hi,
I'm a novice. I fish trout. I'm very satisfied with this season's action.

The trout here go up to 20 lb. rainbows and 6-7 lb sea-run speckled.
River, stream, and a small lake fishing.

I have a rod (7/8) I bought at Walmart, and a Martin Mountain Brook reel.
I caught a 8-1/2 lb. rainbow yesterday, and I wonder about my rod.

I saw fishers using light rods this season, and I wonder which rod or rods
to buy for next year.

I want to buy a decent rod.
I'm 66 yrs old( I can't believe it!), so I don't expect more than 4 years
more fishing. (that means, I don't want to spend all my pension on a rod!)

If you can advise me, that would be splendid!
I knoe there's a lot of experience and expertise in this newsgroup.

Thanks,

-- Lionel



Mike Connor October 7th, 2005 02:57 PM


"Lionel F. Stevenson" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
Hi,
I'm a novice. I fish trout. I'm very satisfied with this season's action.

The trout here go up to 20 lb. rainbows and 6-7 lb sea-run speckled.
River, stream, and a small lake fishing.

I have a rod (7/8) I bought at Walmart, and a Martin Mountain Brook reel.
I caught a 8-1/2 lb. rainbow yesterday, and I wonder about my rod.

I saw fishers using light rods this season, and I wonder which rod or rods
to buy for next year.

I want to buy a decent rod.
I'm 66 yrs old( I can't believe it!), so I don't expect more than 4 years
more fishing. (that means, I don't want to spend all my pension on a rod!)

If you can advise me, that would be splendid!
I knoe there's a lot of experience and expertise in this newsgroup.

Thanks,

-- Lionel



Well Lionel, if you are satisfied with the setup you have, then why change?

For fish of the calibre you are targetting, a #7/#8 rod is quite
appropriate. You could go down to a #6, or even a #5, there are plenty of
reasonable rods at low prices available. However, it is not usually a good
idea to try subduing large fish on light gear. One can do it of course.

For a while various low priced rods from Cabelas were recommended on here.
You could try one of those. It is not at all necessary to buy expensive
gear.

TL
MC



Dave LaCourse October 7th, 2005 02:58 PM

On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:43:35 GMT, "Lionel F. Stevenson"
wrote:

I'm a novice. I fish trout. I'm very satisfied with this season's action.

The trout here go up to 20 lb. rainbows and 6-7 lb sea-run speckled.
River, stream, and a small lake fishing.

I have a rod (7/8) I bought at Walmart, and a Martin Mountain Brook reel.
I caught a 8-1/2 lb. rainbow yesterday, and I wonder about my rod.


Let's see.... 20 pounder, 6-7 pounders, 8.5 pounder. Hmmmm. You
seem to be doing ok, Lionel. A 7/8 would be perfect for such fish. I
wouldn't change a thing. If you go to a lighter ron, i.e. a five
weight, you would be over-stressing the fish trying to land it.
However, if you want to buy a lighter rod, 4-5 weights, think about
catching smaller fish.

Dave







Frank Reid October 7th, 2005 03:11 PM

I'm a novice. I fish trout. I'm very satisfied with this season's action.

The trout here go up to 20 lb. rainbows and 6-7 lb sea-run speckled.
River, stream, and a small lake fishing.

I have a rod (7/8) I bought at Walmart, and a Martin Mountain Brook reel.
I caught a 8-1/2 lb. rainbow yesterday, and I wonder about my rod.


Let's see.... 20 pounder, 6-7 pounders, 8.5 pounder. Hmmmm. You
seem to be doing ok, Lionel. A 7/8 would be perfect for such fish. I
wouldn't change a thing. If you go to a lighter ron, i.e. a five
weight, you would be over-stressing the fish trying to land it.
However, if you want to buy a lighter rod, 4-5 weights, think about
catching smaller fish.


I agree with Dave and Mike. With that kind of fishing, I could come and
help you out, bring a few rods, some flies...
Sounds like you've found some dream fishing location. Your setup, weight
wise, is fine. You might want to look at better quality down the road, but
your skills development will be on of the deciding factors.

--
Frank Reid
Euthanize to respond



Frank Church October 7th, 2005 03:20 PM

"Lionel F. Stevenson" wrote in
:

Hi,
I'm a novice. I fish trout. I'm very satisfied with this season's
action.

The trout here go up to 20 lb. rainbows and 6-7 lb sea-run speckled.
River, stream, and a small lake fishing.

I have a rod (7/8) I bought at Walmart, and a Martin Mountain Brook
reel. I caught a 8-1/2 lb. rainbow yesterday, and I wonder about my
rod.

I saw fishers using light rods this season, and I wonder which rod or
rods to buy for next year.

I want to buy a decent rod.
I'm 66 yrs old( I can't believe it!), so I don't expect more than 4
years more fishing. (that means, I don't want to spend all my pension
on a rod!)

If you can advise me, that would be splendid!
I knoe there's a lot of experience and expertise in this newsgroup.


....see my post to your first post :-) Only 66? **** boy, you gotta lot of
livin'/fishing to do yet...I'm pushing 73 and don't plan on quitting
anytime soon, the secret to a long life is hang out with much younger
wimmin, don't drink Bud, and find humor in life, everyday. And some other
stuff I can't remember. (sigh)

Frank Sr.

JDOE October 8th, 2005 09:15 PM

In article ,
"Lionel F. Stevenson" wrote:

Hi,
I'm a novice. I fish trout. I'm very satisfied with this season's action.

The trout here go up to 20 lb. rainbows and 6-7 lb sea-run speckled.
River, stream, and a small lake fishing.

I have a rod (7/8) I bought at Walmart, and a Martin Mountain Brook reel.
I caught a 8-1/2 lb. rainbow yesterday, and I wonder about my rod.


Geez, alot of non novices here wish they could catch 8 1/2 LB rainbows
:) My biggest rainbow is 6-8 pounds, and that was a steelhead. I did
catch a 5 pound 20 inch rainbow on a dry tho. On a size 18 parachute
adams. Too bad I wasnt using a size 20 parachute :(


I saw fishers using light rods this season, and I wonder which rod or rods
to buy for next year.

I want to buy a decent rod.
I'm 66 yrs old( I can't believe it!), so I don't expect more than 4 years
more fishing. (that means, I don't want to spend all my pension on a rod!)

If you can advise me, that would be splendid!
I knoe there's a lot of experience and expertise in this newsgroup.

Thanks,

-- Lionel



--
Somewhere in Texas a village is missing their Idiot.

Bill Kiene October 13th, 2005 08:15 AM

Hi Lionel,

Where are you?

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Lionel F. Stevenson" wrote in message
...
Hi,
I'm a novice. I fish trout. I'm very satisfied with this season's action.

The trout here go up to 20 lb. rainbows and 6-7 lb sea-run speckled.
River, stream, and a small lake fishing.

I have a rod (7/8) I bought at Walmart, and a Martin Mountain Brook reel.
I caught a 8-1/2 lb. rainbow yesterday, and I wonder about my rod.

I saw fishers using light rods this season, and I wonder which rod or rods
to buy for next year.

I want to buy a decent rod.
I'm 66 yrs old( I can't believe it!), so I don't expect more than 4 years
more fishing. (that means, I don't want to spend all my pension on a rod!)

If you can advise me, that would be splendid!
I knoe there's a lot of experience and expertise in this newsgroup.

Thanks,

-- Lionel






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riverman October 13th, 2005 12:28 PM

Can anyone tell me how to filter out people when using Google.groups?

--riverman


Mike Connor October 13th, 2005 01:05 PM


"riverman" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
oups.com...
Can anyone tell me how to filter out people when using Google.groups?

--riverman


As far as I am aware, it is not possible. You are actively calling up a web
address when you call up the group, and there is apparently no way to filter
this.

The only filter which google has is a pornography filter.

TL
MC



Lionel F. Stevenson October 13th, 2005 01:38 PM

Prince Edward Island, Canada
-- Lionel


From: "Bill Kiene"
Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 07:15:14 GMT
Subject: Which rod?

Hi Lionel,

Where are you?

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Lionel F. Stevenson" wrote in message
...
Hi,
I'm a novice. I fish trout. I'm very satisfied with this season's action.

The trout here go up to 20 lb. rainbows and 6-7 lb sea-run speckled.
River, stream, and a small lake fishing.

I have a rod (7/8) I bought at Walmart, and a Martin Mountain Brook reel.
I caught a 8-1/2 lb. rainbow yesterday, and I wonder about my rod.

I saw fishers using light rods this season, and I wonder which rod or rods
to buy for next year.

I want to buy a decent rod.
I'm 66 yrs old( I can't believe it!), so I don't expect more than 4 years
more fishing. (that means, I don't want to spend all my pension on a rod!)

If you can advise me, that would be splendid!
I knoe there's a lot of experience and expertise in this newsgroup.

Thanks,

-- Lionel







Wolfgang October 13th, 2005 01:51 PM


"riverman" wrote in message
oups.com...
Can anyone tell me how to filter out people when using Google.groups?


After opening a thread, look closely at the names of contributors. Holding
your mouse in your right hand, do not click on any messages from the person
you wish to filter. I'm told this can also be done with the left hand, but
cannot vouch for this based on my own experience. Now, while this method
works well with my newsreader, I haven't tried it in Google.groups. For all
I know, the latter may open up a whole thread, thus rendering the technique
ineffective. If so, averting one's eyes (or covering them with whatever may
be suitable and at hand......so to speak) is nearly infallible as a
fallback.....but you have to be pretty quick.

Wolfgang
who hastens to add that the latter technique, while it works very well in
many other situations, should be used only sparingly and with all due
circumspection in heavy traffic. :(



Jarmo Hurri October 13th, 2005 01:53 PM


I fish trout. I'm very satisfied with this season's action. The
trout here go up to 20 lb. rainbows and 6-7 lb sea-run speckled.
River, stream, and a small lake fishing.


Where are you?


Lionel Prince Edward Island, Canada

Hi Lionel,

When I was considering different possible locations for a fishing trip
on your side of the Atlantic, PEI looked exotic and interesting. Would
you mind telling us whether you think PEI would be a good destination
for a longer trip? At least your initial short description of trout
fisheries sounded promising.

--
Jarmo Hurri

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GaryM October 13th, 2005 02:04 PM

"Mike Connor" wrote in :


The only filter which google has is a pornography filter.


It may interest one or two here that Google does have a RSS feed
for ROFF, meaning that certain web browsers (e.g., Firefox's
Livebookmarks) and RSS newsreading capable software (e.g., Google
Desktop 2.0, Atom, etc.), can keep you informed of the latest
messages without needing to open your newsreader. The
news item has the first paragraph of the message, but not From.
Clicking it opens it in Google Groups.

The following is the URL for the feed and won't make too much sense
if you click it.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.o..._v2_0_msgs.xml

Lionel F. Stevenson October 13th, 2005 02:40 PM

PEI is small; 150 miles long, 40 miles wide.
The rivers are small, but good for trouting.

Nearby is the Margaree river, 6 hours by car, in Cape Breton, (gorgeous!),
Nova Scotia, a world famous Salmon river.

In New Brunswick, 5 hours away, the Miramichi river, another world famous
Salmon river.

Newfoundland & Labrador are also famous for Salmon. That's an 3 hour Air
Canada (ptui!) trip and then a drive. The Pinwale river in Labrador is a
starting point.

-- Lionel


From: Jarmo Hurri
Organization: NA
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:53:09 +0300
Subject: Which rod?


I fish trout. I'm very satisfied with this season's action. The
trout here go up to 20 lb. rainbows and 6-7 lb sea-run speckled.
River, stream, and a small lake fishing.


Where are you?


Lionel Prince Edward Island, Canada

Hi Lionel,

When I was considering different possible locations for a fishing trip
on your side of the Atlantic, PEI looked exotic and interesting. Would
you mind telling us whether you think PEI would be a good destination
for a longer trip? At least your initial short description of trout
fisheries sounded promising.

--
Jarmo Hurri

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address. Remove all garbage from header email address when replying,
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Jarmo Hurri October 17th, 2005 09:16 AM

Which rod?
 

Lionel PEI is small; 150 miles long, 40 miles wide. The rivers are
Lionel small, but good for trouting.

That sounds fine, I'm a _huge_ fan of small-stream trout fishing.
Bought a 6'6" 3wt rod just for this purpose a few years back. Do you
have problems with crouds during the best trout season?

Lionel Nearby is the Margaree river, 6 hours by car, in Cape Breton,
Lionel (gorgeous!), Nova Scotia, a world famous Salmon river. In New
Lionel Brunswick, 5 hours away, the Miramichi river, another world
Lionel famous Salmon river. Newfoundland & Labrador are also famous
Lionel for Salmon. That's an 3 hour Air Canada (ptui!) trip and then
Lionel a drive. The Pinwale river in Labrador is a starting point.

I'm guessing the "famous" places are quite expensive. We have also
considered Newfoundland & Labrador as a strong candidate, but they
have - or at least used to have - that idiotic guide rule (one guide
for every two persons in the group). They certainly lost our money and
interest when they made up that rule.

--
Jarmo Hurri

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Jarmo Hurri October 17th, 2005 09:20 AM

Which rod?
 

Jarmo ... have problems with crouds during ...

Damn, I _know_ its _crowds_, but this is not the first time that I
write _crouds_. Finally a meter according to which I'm starting to
approach a native English speaker.

--
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riverman October 17th, 2005 10:47 AM

Which rod?
 
"Finally a meter according to which I'm starting to approach a native
English speaker"


Sorry, we don't use meters.

--riverman
(trees a croud)


Jarmo Hurri October 17th, 2005 10:51 AM

Which rod?
 

riverman "Finally a meter according to which I'm starting to approach
riverman a native English speaker"

riverman Sorry, we don't use meters.

riverman --riverman
riverman (trees a croud)

Oh Canada...

--
Jarmo Hurri

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Don Phillipson October 18th, 2005 05:59 PM

Which rod?
 
"Jarmo Hurri" wrote in message
...

I'm guessing the "famous" places are quite expensive. We have also
considered Newfoundland & Labrador as a strong candidate, but they
have - or at least used to have - that idiotic guide rule (one guide
for every two persons in the group). They certainly lost our money and
interest when they made up that rule.


Traveling fishermen face two decisions in eastern
Canada:
1. Go for salmon or other species? Some localities
are managed solely for salmon i.e. the salmon conservation
rules narrowly restrict pursuing other species. E.g.
sea-run trout cannot be sought in Quebec salmon rivers
(without a salmon licence and salmon beat) except
in tidal waters.
2. Paying for a guide. Each provincial government
has debated whether this is a reasonable way of making
the traveling fisherman pay cash for his pleasure. New
Brunswick decided Yes (requires a licenced guide to
fish any salmon water), Nova Scotia decided No.
The choice is ours.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



Peter Charles October 20th, 2005 01:43 PM

Eastern Canada (was: Which rod?)
 
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:12:28 +0300, Jarmo Hurri
wrote:


Don Traveling fishermen face two decisions in eastern
Don Canada:

Don 1. Go for salmon or other species? Some localities
Don are managed solely for salmon i.e. the salmon conservation
Don rules narrowly restrict pursuing other species. E.g. sea-run
Don trout cannot be sought in Quebec salmon rivers (without a
Don salmon licence and salmon beat) except in tidal waters.

Don 2. Paying for a guide. Each provincial government
Don has debated whether this is a reasonable way of making the
Don traveling fisherman pay cash for his pleasure. New Brunswick
Don decided Yes (requires a licenced guide to fish any salmon
Don water), Nova Scotia decided No. The choice is ours.

Hi Don!

Pardon my French (pun intended), but are there any differences in the
number of public waters in each province? I've sort of got the
impression that provinces like Quebec make it much harder for an
open-mindedly straying fisherman. Or am I wrong?



Jarmo, there's a huge amount of public access water in eastern Canada,
however, the prime salmon runs will tend to be privately held.
Newfoundland & Labrador do have guide rules that make it more
difficult to go it alone. New Brunswick and Nova Scotia are less
demanding. Quebec is probably the easiest to gain access and if you
want to C&R salmon, even that's not difficult. Quebec is roughly
double the size of France and Germany put together with a population
the size of Switzerland's so as you can imagine, there are tens of
thousands of inland lakes and rivers that are virtually untouched.
Because there is so much fishable public water with little or no road
access, research gets tricky without local knowledge. The hinterland
of Quebec is a fisherman's paradise provided you can get to it and the
bugs don't leave you a dessicated corpse after you arrive.

If you're interested in eastern Canadian salmon, got to:
http://www.flyfishingforum.com/flytalk/index.htm and ask your
questions on the "Classsic Atlantic Salmon" forum. There are a number
of people on the forum who are qualified to help.

Peter

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Jarmo Hurri October 21st, 2005 01:25 PM

Eastern Canada
 

Peter Quebec is probably the easiest to gain access and if you want
Peter to C&R salmon, even that's not difficult. ...

Hi Peter!

Thanks for the info. The reason I'm asking about these issues is that
it may be time to start planning for a major fishing trip. Again. I
bailed out of the last major trip of our group (Alaska this September)
because it did not suit my plans. But it looks like the group will
start saving money again for the next trip, which might take place in
'07 or '08.

When planning the trip that took place this year, we were effectively
choosing between Alaska, British Columbia and the Montana / Idaho /
Wyoming region. For some of these we found that for a complete
outsider, it can be very hard to form a really solid opinion based on
what you can find in books / sites etc. That's why first-hand
information from natives is very valuable.

BTW, as far as the different species are concerned, I myself am most
interested in trout, charr (including brookies) and grayling, but I
also fish for salmon.

Thanks again and all the best.

--
Jarmo Hurri

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