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rw November 7th, 2005 12:58 PM

How many species?
 
Peter Collins' thread on states and provinces got me to thinking about
how many species of fish (loosely speaking) I've caught.

On the fly:

rainbow trout
cutthroat trout
brown trout
brook trout
lake trout
mountain whitefish
coho salmon
pink salmon
chinook salmon (fry only)
sockeye salmon (kokanee only)
bull trout
dolly varden
arctic char (probably)
grayling
largemouth bass
smallmouth bass
bluegill
punkinseed (sunfish)
striped bass
bonefish
trevally
puffer
tarpon
yellow snapper
mutton snapper
jack crevalle
pudding wife
squirrel fish
barracuda

by other means:

walleye
northern pike
white perch
yellow perch
gar
carp
croaker
eel

I'm sure I've missed some, including various reef fish in Belize that I
couldn't even identify.

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Peter A. Collin November 7th, 2005 01:51 PM

How many species?
 


rainbow trout
cutthroat trout
brown trout
brook trout
cuttbow
palomino trout
lake trout
mountain whitefish
Eastern Whitefish
coho salmon
chinook salmon
landlocked salmon
bull trout
grayling
largemouth bass
smallmouth bass
"kentucky" spotted bass
bluegill
punkinseed (sunfish)
striped bass
walleye
Northern Pike
Channel Catfish
Bullhead
black crappie
chain pickerel
white perch
white bass
white sucker
redfin sucker
buffalofish
carp
grass carp
mackerel
yellow perch
flounder
longnose gar
many types of chubs and fallfish

and I think I caught a muskie fingerling once.

Pete Collin

Peter Charles November 7th, 2005 03:15 PM

How many species?
 
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 05:58:19 -0700, rw
wrote:

Peter Collins' thread on states and provinces got me to thinking about
how many species of fish (loosely speaking) I've caught.

On the fly:


rainbow trout & steelhead
brown
brookie
bull
landlocked atlantics
carp
sucker
chub
pike
largemouth
smallmouth
striper
bullhead
walleye
chinook
pumpkinseed
bluegill
rock bass
crappie



Peter

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Wayne Knight November 7th, 2005 03:16 PM

How many species?
 

rw wrote:
Peter Collins' thread on states and provinces got me to thinking about
how many species of fish (loosely speaking) I've caught.

On the fly:


Fly:

Rainbow Trout
Great Lakes Steelhead
King Salmon
Silver Salmon
Brown Trout
Brook Trout
Cutthroat (as stocked in Arkansas )
LM Bass
SM Bass
Redfish
Various Perches, Bluegill, and Crappie
Catfish
Walleye
Redeye Bass
Striped Bass
Muskie (ate the Rainbow I was attempting to land in NY state but
started out as a #16 BWO)
Pike
Various Suckers and *coarse fish*


Other Tackle
Blue Marlin
White Marlin
Sailfish
Tuna
Bonita
Hammerhead Shark
Tiger Shark
Sand Shark
King Mackeral
Spotted Seatrout
White Seatrout
Long Nosed Gar
Snook
Tarpon
Dolphin (the fish, not the mammal)
Blue Fish
Grouper
Red Snapper
and other smallish SW fish.


Wolfgang November 7th, 2005 03:45 PM

How many species?
 

"rw" wrote in message
...
Peter Collins' thread on states and provinces got me to thinking about how
many species of fish (loosely speaking) I've caught....


Rainbow, brown, brook and cutthroat trout. Do hybrids such as the cutbow
count?
Rocky mountain whitefish
Bluegills, pumpkinseed and various other unidentified allies.
Rock Bass
Smallmouth bass
Largemouth bass
Northern Pike
Muskie
Black and white crappy
White bass
Walleye pike.....and probably sauger.....not at all sure I could tell them
apart.
Yellow perch
Coho salmon
Chinook salmon
Channel cat
Bullhead
Bowfin
Various "suckers"
Sundry, "minnows".....dace and other unidentified tiny fish
Sculpins of one sort or another
Myriad "chubs"

All of the above except the bowfin on flies......most of them also with bait
and/or hardware.

I've also gotten grouper, red snapper, snook and others that I never
identified or have forgotten with a spear gun.

Also, many thousands of smelt with nets.

Wolfgang



Frank Reid November 7th, 2005 03:55 PM

How many species?
 
Also, many thousands of smelt with nets.

Wolfgang


If you didn't leave the nets in the sun so long, they wouldn't have smelt.
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Peter A. Collin November 7th, 2005 04:05 PM

How many species?
 
Knew I'd forget as few:

rock bass
sheepshead

rw November 7th, 2005 04:10 PM

How many species?
 
Peter Charles wrote:

rock bass
crappie


Damn! I knew I'd forgotten a couple.

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Conan The Librarian November 7th, 2005 04:14 PM

How many species?
 

OK, I don't usually respond to "polls", but this one got me
thinking. The following have been caught by various means, from bait to
lures to flies.

Largemouth bass
Spotted bass
Smallmouth bass
Guadalupe bass
Striped bass
White bass
Carp (bait only)
various suckers (bait only)
Gar
Pike
Gaspergou (freshwater drum) (bait only)
Bowfin (bait only)
Channel catfish
Blue catfish (bait only)
Yellow catfish (bait only)
Bluegill
Green sunfish
Readear sunfish
Black and white crappie
Red drum
Hardheads (sal****er catfish) (bait only)
Speckled trout (sal****er "trout")
Black drum (bait only)
Rainbow trout
Brown trout
Brook trout

rw November 7th, 2005 04:15 PM

How many species?
 
Wolfgang wrote:

Do hybrids such as the cutbow
count?


Well, I didn't include palomino rainbow trout or the nearly dead chum
salmon I foul hooked in Alaska, but everyone has to follow their own
consciences. :-)

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Wolfgang November 7th, 2005 04:23 PM

How many species?
 

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...

...Carp....


Oh, yeah. Bow and arrow on the Lake Michigan shore......many years ago.
Oddly, perhaps, I don't recall ever catching one on a hook.

Wolfgang



Conan The Librarian November 7th, 2005 04:41 PM

How many species?
 
Wolfgang wrote:

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...

...Carp....



Oh, yeah. Bow and arrow on the Lake Michigan shore......many years ago.
Oddly, perhaps, I don't recall ever catching one on a hook.


And of course I also remembered some mo rock bass, "pumpkinseed"
and warmouth.


Chuck Vance



BJ Conner November 7th, 2005 04:44 PM

How many species?
 

rw wrote:
Peter Collins' thread on states and provinces got me to thinking about
how many species of fish (loosely speaking) I've caught.

On the fly:

rainbow trout
cutthroat trout
brown trout
brook trout
lake trout
mountain whitefish
coho salmon
pink salmon
chinook salmon (fry only)
sockeye salmon (kokanee only)
bull trout
dolly varden
arctic char (probably)
grayling
largemouth bass
smallmouth bass
bluegill
punkinseed (sunfish)
striped bass
bonefish
trevally
puffer
tarpon
yellow snapper
mutton snapper
jack crevalle
pudding wife
squirrel fish
barracuda

by other means:

walleye
northern pike
white perch
yellow perch
gar
carp
croaker
eel

I'm sure I've missed some, including various reef fish in Belize that I
couldn't even identify.

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Most of the usual freshwater above, still have fish to catch in the
salt.
For unusual freshwater fish;
Sacramento Perch and Hitch


rw November 7th, 2005 04:47 PM

How many species?
 
Wolfgang wrote:
"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...

...Carp....



Oh, yeah. Bow and arrow on the Lake Michigan shore......many years ago.
Oddly, perhaps, I don't recall ever catching one on a hook.


When I was about 14 years old I killed two spawning carp with one big
rock. It was one of the most pointless, shameful things I've ever done.

BTW, for you guys in Baltimore, in was in Montebello Reservoir. I lived
nearby, so I used to fish for largemouth bass there. It was illegal, but
I could go down a steep bank and get behind a reed bed were no one could
see me. Anyway, if you're 14 and broke, WTF? What are they going to do?
Throw you in jail?

My best day at Montebello was two five-pound (honest) bass. Spawners. I
really wish I still had that photo. I put them in the freezer and my
mother threw them away about a year later. That was also one of the most
pointless, shameful things I've ever done. But I was 14, so cut me some
slack.

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rw November 7th, 2005 05:11 PM

How many species?
 
Conan The Librarian wrote:

And of course I also remembered some mo rock bass, "pumpkinseed"
and warmouth.


Another I forgot: Squaw Fish, aka Pike Minnow for the politically
correct among us.

Speaking of politically correct, the "official" name of the jew fish is
now the goliath grouper. OK, fine. But David the Hebrew slew Goliath the
Philistine, so this is a slap in the faces of Jews.

The official namers argue that "goliath" doesn't refer to the Biblical
giant in person, but only to the common lower-case meaning of the word.
That makes no sense at all. The lower-case "goliath" derives from
Goliath the giant Philistine warrior, and no one would remember Goliath
the person if it hadn't been for David the Jew. David MADE Goliath's
reputation, by killing him and thereby getting him a mention in the Bible.

If they had to change the name they could have called it the great
grouper, or the gargantuan grouper, or the stupendous grouper, or the
humongous grouper, or the superduper grouper. But no, they had to insult
the Jews, as if they haven't been though enough already.

Willi and I saw a "goliath grouper" while snorkeling in Belize. It must
have been 300 lbs, easy. Maybe much bigger. It was resting on one side
of a rock, and a big nurse shark was on the other side. Very cool.

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Conan The Librarian November 7th, 2005 07:02 PM

How many species?
 
Jonathan Cook wrote:

[big snip just to get to this]

Northernmost place fished: athabasca river near jasper. Caught
rainbow and brook trout


Interesting. When SWMBO and I traveled through that area, I had my
doubts about what the fishery was like. We were there in early
September, and the water was almost milky-colored from glacial silt.
What time of year did you fish it?


Chuck Vance (who wouldn't mind fishing that area the next time
he's there)

Peter Charles November 7th, 2005 10:51 PM

How many species?
 
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:10:18 -0700, rw
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote:

rock bass
crappie


Damn! I knew I'd forgotten a couple.


and I forgot perch

Peter

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Peter Charles November 7th, 2005 10:53 PM

How many species?
 
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 10:15:16 -0500, Peter Charles
wrote:

On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 05:58:19 -0700, rw
wrote:

Peter Collins' thread on states and provinces got me to thinking about
how many species of fish (loosely speaking) I've caught.

On the fly:


rainbow trout & steelhead
brown
brookie
bull
landlocked atlantics
carp
sucker
chub
pike
largemouth
smallmouth
striper
bullhead
walleye
chinook
pumpkinseed
bluegill
rock bass
crappie



Peter

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oh ya, if we're not talking fly caught, add bowfin, musky

Peter

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Wolfgang November 7th, 2005 11:23 PM

How many species?
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
Also, many thousands of smelt with nets.

Wolfgang


If you didn't leave the nets in the sun so long, they wouldn't have smelt.


Doesn't matter. In the years when I pursued them.....mostly the early 60s
through mid 70s.....the stench of millions of tons of rotting alewives
pretty much drowned out everything else. :(

Wolfgang



Mike Connor November 7th, 2005 11:29 PM

How many species?
 
Hmmm.... Difficult.
Salmon
Seatrout
Trout
Grayling
Pike
Perch
Roach
Dace
Carp
Crucian carp
Goldfish
Tench
Barbel
Bream
Burbot
Eel
Bullhead
Garfish
Bass
Mullet
Dab
Flounder
Cod
Haddock
Mackerel
Whiting
Pollack
Herring
Pouting
Weaver
Gurnard ( Grey and red)

Various bats, ducks, seagulls, frogs, and two sheep.

Using bait and various other methods, quite a few more.

TL
MC



Daniel-San November 7th, 2005 11:52 PM

How many species?
 

"Wolfgang" wrote ...


Also, many thousands of smelt with nets.


Doesn't matter. In the years when I pursued them.....mostly the early 60s
through mid 70s.....the stench of millions of tons of rotting alewives
pretty much drowned out everything else. :(

Wolfgang


Many a fine memory of same. Sitting on the 'horseshoe' at Montrose harbor
with Dad at 3 AM. The horrible stench of the alewives was easily drowned out
by the stories Dad told about smelting in his youth.

Thanks for the flashback...

Dan



Tim Lysyk November 7th, 2005 11:53 PM

How many species?
 
Close to home , I have caught (on the fly)

Rainbow trout
Cutthroat trout
Bull Trout
Brown Trout
Brook trout
Golden trout (the real kind, not some albino rainbow)
Lake Trout

Rocky Mountain Whitefish

Northern Pike

A squawfish or two, but these were accidental

red-finned suckers (happens every year during runoff as I dredge the
bottom with big nymphs)

I have also caught, but not on the fly, and not necessarily close to home:

Walleye
Chinook Salmon
Coho Salmon
Sculpins
Perch

I can't think of any others.


Tim Lysyk

Scott Seidman November 8th, 2005 12:08 AM

How many species?
 
Peter Charles wrote in
:

chub


There have been two or three outings where I entertained myself catching
chub on dries when little else was going down.

I took a chub on a size 4 salmon hook once at Sandy Creek. That was
something to see. If I remember, it was on my own concoction that I call a
"freddie mercury"

Hook: Salmon fly, size 4-6
tail: purple schlappen
tag: medium oval tinsel
body: Purple ultra chenille
rib: fine oval tinsel
thorax: Purple lite brite
wing: flourescent pink calf tail (reverse tied)
Hackle: Purple chickabou

I don't remember why I called it a "freddie Mercury", but it seems to fish
well in everything from clear to deeply stained water.

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Mike Connor November 8th, 2005 12:24 AM

How many species?
 
Forgot chub and vendace, doubtless a few others as well.

TL
MC



Peter A. Collin November 8th, 2005 12:33 AM

How many species?
 
Mike Connor wrote:
Hmmm.... Difficult.


Dab


Is that short for something?

Pouting
Weaver
Gurnard ( Grey and red)


Never heard of them..... Do you catch weaver on woven body nymphs?

Bob La Londe November 8th, 2005 01:03 AM

How many species?
 
On the fly:
rainbow trout
large mouthbass
white bass

Other Artificials:
striped bass
smalled mouth bass
channel catfish (flipping plastics)
flathead catfish (inline spinners and jigging spoons)
warmouth
green sunfish
shellcracker
bluegill
walleye
black crappie
white crappie
threadfin shad
white perch
tilapia

Bait or Bait tipped Artificial:
most of the above plus
gobie
yellow perch
carp
sheephead
bulhead catfish
callico bass
barracuda
sculpin
mackeral
eel (species unknown)


--
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rw November 8th, 2005 01:14 AM

How many species?
 
Jonathan Cook wrote:

Shad (L,B)


How could I have forgotten shad?

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Wolfgang November 8th, 2005 01:22 AM

How many species?
 

"Daniel-San" wrote in message
.. .

"Wolfgang" wrote ...


Also, many thousands of smelt with nets.


Doesn't matter. In the years when I pursued them.....mostly the early
60s through mid 70s.....the stench of millions of tons of rotting
alewives pretty much drowned out everything else. :(

Wolfgang


Many a fine memory of same. Sitting on the 'horseshoe' at Montrose harbor
with Dad at 3 AM. The horrible stench of the alewives was easily drowned
out by the stories Dad told about smelting in his youth.


Must be a hell of a story that would drown out alewives. A Dad worth
keeping, I'd say.

Thanks for the flashback...


De nada.......flashbacks are free. :)

Wolfgang



Joel *DFD* November 8th, 2005 02:47 AM

How many species?
 
Caught most all of the fresh water fish mentioned so far.
I've caught Carp on the fly. Dogged fighters.
Noticed that few if any have mentioned Sockeye and
Pink Salmon on the fly. Very exciting.
A few years back I reported in ROFF catching a
Cut/Brown Hybred. Anybody ever get one of those?
Also Boanfish on the fly. Great fun!
Joel


JR November 8th, 2005 03:16 AM

How many species?
 
_fly-caught_

Rainbow trout (resident and steelhead)
Brown trout
Brook trout
Cutthroat trout (Yellowstone, Lahontan, Westslope, Coastal)
Bull trout
Lake trout
whitefish
Atlantic salmon (landlocked)
bluegill
pumpkinseed
redear sunfish
redbreast sunfish
largemouth bass
smallmouth bass
white crappie
black crappie
yellow perch
tilapia
carp
bonefish
redfish

_Other means_

channel catfish
bullhead
flathead catfish
northern pike
pickerel
walleye
muskie
rock bass
spotted bass
gar
nile perch
white sucker
chub
kingfish
ladyfish
bluefish
sheepshead
white grunt
mermaid
pompano
shad
weakfish
Gulf flounder
mutton snapper
white bass
striped bass
spotted seatrout
yellowtail
stingray
some sort of sal****er catfish, species unknown

bugcaster November 8th, 2005 03:36 AM

How many species?
 

"JR" wrote in message ...
_fly-caught_


I have to get out more!

I'm still waiting to see a fly caught sturgeon listed.

bugcaster



Daniel-San November 8th, 2005 04:28 AM

How many species?
 

"Wolfgang" wrote ...


Must be a hell of a story that would drown out alewives. A Dad worth
keeping, I'd say.


You have no idea. Got lucky in that respect, for sure. We still fish pretty
often, though his Vietnam artillery experience left his shoulders mostly
frozen, so it's pretty much trolling for salmon, etc. in the 'big pond'. And
the every May jaunt to Lake Erie to do our part in the put and take walleye
fishing. Can't let them 'put' without taking, I s'pose....


Thanks for the flashback...


De nada.......flashbacks are free. :)


And one of these days, I expect the 'real' flashbacks. Many Dead shows will
do that to ya.


Wolfgang


Dan



Dave Mohnsen November 8th, 2005 11:56 AM

How many species?
 

"bugcaster" wrote in message
...

"JR" wrote in message
...
_fly-caught_
(snip)


Bugcaster wrote:
I have to get out more!
I'm still waiting to see a fly caught sturgeon listed.
bugcaster


Hmmm . . . I saw a guy hook a "surgeon" once with a fly. Is that close
enough? :) It wasn't a fair catch though. Didn't hook him in the mouth . .
.. just the vest.
DaveMohnsen
Denver



Mike Connor November 8th, 2005 12:35 PM

How many species?
 

"Peter A. Collin" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
.. .
Mike Connor wrote:
Hmmm.... Difficult.


Dab


Is that short for something?


No it is a flatfish common in the North Sea

Pouting
Weaver
Gurnard ( Grey and red)


Never heard of them..... Do you catch weaver on woven body nymphs?


Best to avoid catching them at all, they are extremely poisonous.

I also forgot chub, char, vendace, and dragonet.

TL
MC




rw November 8th, 2005 01:10 PM

How many species?
 
Mike Connor wrote:
"Peter A. Collin" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
.. .

Mike Connor wrote:

Hmmm.... Difficult.


Dab


Is that short for something?



No it is a flatfish common in the North Sea


I suppose they're similar to the Pacific sand dab:

http://hmsc.oregonstate.edu/odfw/fin...acsanddab.html

They're delicious:

http://www.ochef.com/404.htm

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Mike Connor November 8th, 2005 01:32 PM

How many species?
 

"rw" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
snip
I suppose they're similar to the Pacific sand dab:

http://hmsc.oregonstate.edu/odfw/fin...acsanddab.html

They're delicious:

http://www.ochef.com/404.htm

--


Well, they are similar to the extent that they are flatfish, and delicious,
but the North Sea dab is Limanda limanda
http://www.fishbase.org/images/thumb...n_Lilim_u0.jpg

The pacific sand dab is Citharichthys sordidus
http://www.fishbase.org/images/thumb...n_Cisor_u0.jpg

It seems there is a whole host of fish known as dabs

TL
MC



Steve November 8th, 2005 02:42 PM

How many species?
 
I caught a Pennsylvania grand slam on a fly once: Brown, brookie,
rainbow and fallfish. On my local trickle, the Dirty Ol' Neshaminy, I'm
shooting for a Lower Bucks grand slam: Rock bass, green sunfish, carp
and fallfish. The local lake has a slam I'm working on, too:
Largemouth, carp, pumpkinseed and pickeral.

On a fly,
Bow, brown and brookie
Carp
Smallmouth, largemouth, white, striped, warmouth and rock bass
Chub, shiner and alewife
Bluefish and weakfish
yellow perch, black and white crappie
vast varieties of sunfish
Steelie (almost)

As a dirty little kid with Uncle Josh's eggs some of the above and:
Dogfish
cutthroat
stingray
sand dab
bullhead
croaker


rw November 8th, 2005 03:09 PM

How many species?
 
I just recalled another fish I would occasionally catch in the
Chesapeake Bay: the oyster toadfish.

http://www.fisheries.vims.edu/toadfish.htm

It is without a doubt the ugliest fish I've ever caught.

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