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As is my normal custom, this is when I take the lines off my reels, clean
them one last time, and store them away. This year, the first line I took off was one I used the most - an Orvis Wonderline WF3F, factory spooled onto an Orvis CFO I reel. The first and last twenty feet or so were okay, but the middle stuff was a freakin' nightmare - it was coiled like a watch spring. Any ideas what would cause this? And what is the best way to relax the coils so the line is ready for the coming season? -- TIA, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ |
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"Tim J." wrote in message ... As is my normal custom, this is when I take the lines off my reels, clean them one last time, and store them away. This year, the first line I took off was one I used the most - an Orvis Wonderline WF3F, factory spooled onto an Orvis CFO I reel. The first and last twenty feet or so were okay, but the middle stuff was a freakin' nightmare - it was coiled like a watch spring. Any ideas what would cause this? And what is the best way to relax the coils so the line is ready for the coming season? -- TIA, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ The line has a memory, so if it's been sitting wound up on the spool for a long line it have a coil memory. What I do is stretch it out with my hands by pulling on the line, not hard, but enough to get the coil memory out, then I cast it a few times. Cleaning the line was good. -tom |
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On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:54:54 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote: As is my normal custom, this is when I take the lines off my reels, clean them one last time, and store them away. This year, the first line I took off was one I used the most - an Orvis Wonderline WF3F, factory spooled onto an Orvis CFO I reel. The first and last twenty feet or so were okay, but the middle stuff was a freakin' nightmare - it was coiled like a watch spring. Any ideas what would cause this? And what is the best way to relax the coils so the line is ready for the coming season? Could have been wound too tight. Try putting the line in some warm water and/or stretching it out like you would a coiled leader. -- Charlie Choc 234778 |
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"Tim J." wrote in message ... ...what is the best way to relax the coils so the line is ready for the coming season? Just letting it sit at room temperature for a couple of months will probably do the trick. If not....... Heat. But not too much. Coil loosely.....say, one to two foot diameter coils.....and hang it on a dowel, coat hanger, or what have you, in front of a furnace vent (if you've got forced air heat) or use a blow drier. In the latter instance I suggest using the lowest heat setting and starting at a distance of a couple of feet. Feel the line frequently to make sure it isn't getting hot. Wolfgang |
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Tim J. wrote: As is my normal custom, this is when I take the lines off my reels, clean them one last time, and store them away. This year, the first line I took off was one I used the most - an Orvis Wonderline WF3F, factory spooled onto an Orvis CFO I reel. The first and last twenty feet or so were okay, but the middle stuff was a freakin' nightmare - it was coiled like a watch spring. Any ideas what would cause this? And what is the best way to relax the coils so the line is ready for the coming season? -- TIA, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ What the other guys said as far as relaxing the coils......a little heat and hang it loose. Couple of related things.....I picked up a couple of Wonderlines on sale at Orvis last year, and I notice they are much more prone to retaining memory than my Cortlands or SIs. Also the CFO has a small arbor, and my CFO III holds very little backing with the suggested line weights. My only complaint about an otherwise marvelous reel. |
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On 3 Jan 2006 09:28:18 -0800, "George Adams"
wrote: Tim J. wrote: As is my normal custom, this is when I take the lines off my reels, clean them one last time, and store them away. This year, the first line I took off was one I used the most - an Orvis Wonderline WF3F, factory spooled onto an Orvis CFO I reel. The first and last twenty feet or so were okay, but the middle stuff was a freakin' nightmare - it was coiled like a watch spring. Any ideas what would cause this? And what is the best way to relax the coils so the line is ready for the coming season? -- TIA, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ What the other guys said as far as relaxing the coils......a little heat and hang it loose. Couple of related things.....I picked up a couple of Wonderlines on sale at Orvis last year, and I notice they are much more prone to retaining memory than my Cortlands or SIs. Also the CFO has a small arbor, and my CFO III holds very little backing with the suggested line weights. My only complaint about an otherwise marvelous reel. Several guys on the Wisconsin flyfishing message board have had similiar problems with Wonderline. Since they supposedly are made by SA (and there haven't been similiar complaints about their lines) it must be a problem with their proprietary coating. g.c. |
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"George Cleveland" wrote in message ... On 3 Jan 2006 09:28:18 -0800, "George Adams" wrote: Tim J. wrote: As is my normal custom, this is when I take the lines off my reels, clean them one last time, and store them away. This year, the first line I took off was one I used the most - an Orvis Wonderline WF3F, factory spooled onto an Orvis CFO I reel. The first and last twenty feet or so were okay, but the middle stuff was a freakin' nightmare - it was coiled like a watch spring. Any ideas what would cause this? And what is the best way to relax the coils so the line is ready for the coming season? -- TIA, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ What the other guys said as far as relaxing the coils......a little heat and hang it loose. Couple of related things.....I picked up a couple of Wonderlines on sale at Orvis last year, and I notice they are much more prone to retaining memory than my Cortlands or SIs. Also the CFO has a small arbor, and my CFO III holds very little backing with the suggested line weights. My only complaint about an otherwise marvelous reel. Several guys on the Wisconsin flyfishing message board have had similiar problems with Wonderline. Since they supposedly are made by SA (and there haven't been similiar complaints about their lines) it must be a problem with their proprietary coating. I dunno about SA. I have SA lines on all three of my reels, and they have horriffic memories! I've tried stretching them, heating them, letting them hang loose for months....nothing. I lose about 15-20% of my casting distance when the lines coil back and retrieve my fly. I'm ready to lay out the cash to replace them all...any recommendations? Or is "you get what you pay for" a good rule of thumb? --riverman |
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riverman I dunno about SA. I have SA lines on all three of my reels, riverman and they have horriffic memories! I've tried stretching riverman them, heating them, letting them hang loose for riverman months....nothing. I've got SA Trout, GPX, XPS, both old and new coating, and no noticeable problems so far. I use only large-arbor reels - Roger's bringing you one to NZ, right? - and spool the lines onto their original containers for winter months (and no, it's not the largest part of the year over here). But it might be that once it gets spoiled, the memory remains. :-) The memory thing, by the way, is one argument that some people use to argue against the double lifetime of DT lines: that you couldn't reverse the line anyway because the last part of the line is in such a terrible shape after it has been spooled onto the reel for such a long time. But my DT lines are ready to be reversed any day. -- Jarmo Hurri Commercial email countermeasures included in header email address. Remove all garbage from header email address when replying, or just use . |
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In article , Charlie Choc
writes On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:54:54 -0500, "Tim J." wrote: As is my normal custom, this is when I take the lines off my reels, clean them one last time, and store them away. This year, the first line I took off was one I used the most - an Orvis Wonderline WF3F, factory spooled onto an Orvis CFO I reel. The first and last twenty feet or so were okay, but the middle stuff was a freakin' nightmare - it was coiled like a watch spring. Any ideas what would cause this? And what is the best way to relax the coils so the line is ready for the coming season? Could have been wound too tight. Try putting the line in some warm water and/or stretching it out like you would a coiled leader. Pulling the line fairly tightly through a dry duster will take out the twists maybe only temporarily though - Give it a try. -- Bill Grey http://www.billboy.co.uk |
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Tim J. typed:
As is my normal custom, this is when I take the lines off my reels, clean them one last time, and store them away. This year, the first line I took off was one I used the most - an Orvis Wonderline WF3F, factory spooled onto an Orvis CFO I reel. The first and last twenty feet or so were okay, but the middle stuff was a freakin' nightmare - it was coiled like a watch spring. Any ideas what would cause this? And what is the best way to relax the coils so the line is ready for the coming season? Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. It sounds like a bit of heat and then letting the line hang may do the trick. I'll post the results back here in a few weeks. Also, I've got an older, memory-laden Cortland line, so I'll apply the identical solution to it for comparison. It'll be interesting to see if the problem is the Wonderline itself. -- TL, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ |
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Jonathan Cook typed:
Tim J. wrote: As is my normal custom, this is when I take the lines off my reels, clean them one last time, and store them away. This year, the first line I took Wow, you take this fishing stuff way too seriously... Maybe, or perhaps I'm just a cheap bastid. ;-) I figure the best way to get an extra year or two out of a line is to take good care of it. -- TL, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ |
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On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:58:12 +0800, "riverman"
wrote: What the other guys said as far as relaxing the coils......a little heat and hang it loose. Couple of related things.....I picked up a couple of Wonderlines on sale at Orvis last year, and I notice they are much more prone to retaining memory than my Cortlands or SIs. Also the CFO has a small arbor, and my CFO III holds very little backing with the suggested line weights. My only complaint about an otherwise marvelous reel. Several guys on the Wisconsin flyfishing message board have had similiar problems with Wonderline. Since they supposedly are made by SA (and there haven't been similiar complaints about their lines) it must be a problem with their proprietary coating. I dunno about SA. I have SA lines on all three of my reels, and they have horriffic memories! I've tried stretching them, heating them, letting them hang loose for months....nothing. I lose about 15-20% of my casting distance when the lines coil back and retrieve my fly. I'm ready to lay out the cash to replace them all...any recommendations? Or is "you get what you pay for" a good rule of thumb? --riverman The last couple of lines I've gotten have been RIOs. I haven't noticed any bad memory problems yet but then again I've only been fishing them since last summer and haven't taken them off the reel since September. I'll go check... I just pulled off about 50' of WF5F RIO Accellerator with a stiff finish. It * was* pretty coily (grammar?). But with just a small stretch the coils came out. So, yes, I can recommend RIO lines. Their Mainstream line is about $30. hth g.c. |
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Tim J. wrote: ......This year, the first line I took off was one I used the most - an Orvis Wonderline WF3F, factory spooled onto an Orvis CFO I reel. The first and last twenty feet or so were okay, but the middle stuff was a freakin' nightmare - it was coiled like a watch spring. Any ideas what would cause this? Not catching enough fish. And what is the best way to relax the coils so the line is ready for the coming season? Catch more fish. |
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On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 10:13:02 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote: Tim J. typed: As is my normal custom, this is when I take the lines off my reels, clean them one last time, and store them away. This year, the first line I took off was one I used the most - an Orvis Wonderline WF3F, factory spooled onto an Orvis CFO I reel. The first and last twenty feet or so were okay, but the middle stuff was a freakin' nightmare - it was coiled like a watch spring. Any ideas what would cause this? And what is the best way to relax the coils so the line is ready for the coming season? Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. It sounds like a bit of heat and then letting the line hang may do the trick. I'll post the results back here in a few weeks. Also, I've got an older, memory-laden Cortland line, so I'll apply the identical solution to it for comparison. It'll be interesting to see if the problem is the Wonderline itself. Coming to the party a little late, but a coupla-three of suggestions: 1. Store in a reasonably climate-controlled room loosely coiled on spools about 12" in diameter. There are such spools sold for silk lines, but any similar spool of suitable material should work. 2. If you have a room where you can do so, attach small blocks with nylon pulleys (such as used on small sailboats, etc.) or nylon hooks (don't use metal, wood, or rubber pulleys or hooks) in each corner and use them to store the line under fairly moderate tension around the perimeter. A couple of coated paperclips opened into an "S" shape, a fairly thick rubberband and, if needed a length of string, will make a "shock cord" to hold the ends under enough tension. Obviously, the room used must be one kept at reasonable temps; IOW, don't do this in a shed or garage that gets temperature extremes. 3. If you have any larger framed art/prints/posters, coil slightly smaller than the frame, and use a piece of old line to hang the line behind the frame on the existing hanger(s). Bookcases, china cabinets, etc. work, too, but can be a pain to get the line in/out. Keeps them out of the way and protected from damage. HTH, R |
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wrote Coming to the party a little late me, too, richard. my suggestion is to burn the sonofabitch and get a new line from a completely different source. yfitons wayno(the gordian knot story is one of my faves) |
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Wayne Harrison wrote:
wrote Coming to the party a little late me, too, richard. my suggestion is to burn the sonofabitch and get a new line from a completely different source. yfitons wayno(the gordian knot story is one of my faves) hell wayno, didn't he say the first part of the line was fine... can't figure why anyone would worry over that useless middle part?. i've never removed my line "for the season", except to throw it away or because i needed something for the tomato plants. excellent advice by the way, especially considering the cost of heat for those poor *******s up north. jeff |
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:00:39 GMT, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote: wrote Coming to the party a little late me, too, richard. my suggestion is to burn the sonofabitch and get a new line from a completely different source. Aw, now come on...Tim's not all that ba....oh... yfitons wayno(the gordian knot story is one of my faves) Was Alexander English or German? TC, R |
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:58:02 -0500, Jeff Miller
wrote: Wayne Harrison wrote: wrote Coming to the party a little late me, too, richard. my suggestion is to burn the sonofabitch and get a new line from a completely different source. yfitons wayno(the gordian knot story is one of my faves) hell wayno, didn't he say the first part of the line was fine... can't figure why anyone would worry over that useless middle part?. i've never removed my line "for the season", except to throw it away or because i needed something for the tomato plants. excellent advice by the way, especially considering the cost of heat for those poor *******s up north. jeff ACK! Another lawyer! It's a conspiracy! OMFUG, R |
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Tim J. wrote:
Tim J. typed: As is my normal custom, this is when I take the lines off my reels, clean them one last time, and store them away. This year, the first line I took off was one I used the most - an Orvis Wonderline WF3F, factory spooled onto an Orvis CFO I reel. The first and last twenty feet or so were okay, but the middle stuff was a freakin' nightmare - it was coiled like a watch spring. Any ideas what would cause this? And what is the best way to relax the coils so the line is ready for the coming season? Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. It sounds like a bit of heat and then letting the line hang may do the trick. I'll post the results back here in a few weeks. Also, I've got an older, memory-laden Cortland line, so I'll apply the identical solution to it for comparison. It'll be interesting to see if the problem is the Wonderline itself. The results are in: By the time I got back to the Wonderline to try the suggestions mentioned, the tight coils were gone. Just leaving it loosely coiled at room temperature for the past week seemed to do the trick. The Wonderline thus appears to have a stronger short-term memory. -- TL, Tim --------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ |
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