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I want to spend more time fishing tubes could someone recommend some colors
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"Pat_RI" wrote in message news:gBXuf.30860$9G.22077@dukeread10... I want to spend more time fishing tubes could someone recommend some colors to start out with and also some brands? Wow, where to begin. Well, I'm just gonna throw out some basic advice that I try to follow myself, I am not a pro, so take it with a grain of salt, it is only *my personal opinion*: Colors: depends on the forage available in the water body in question. Also depends on the "color" of the water IMO. I try to match my tube (and other softbaits) colors to forage in the lake, like shad, minnows, crawdads, whatever they may be. And to use tubes (without any rattles especially) in any sort of stained or naturally dark (tanic) water, is a toughy. Go bright and hope is all I can suggest. IMO, and I am certainly open to correction, tubes are more of a bait that fish need to see to go for, since by and large, they don't make a ton of noise, even with a little rattle chamber attached or imbedded in them. All that said, my most productive colors this past year (and I was trying to learn tube fishing myself this past year) were red shad, pumpkin seed, and pumpkin seed with chartruese tentacles. I don't get the "red shad" being so productive around here, but the "pumpkin seed" color is pretty close to the crawdads that inhabit the lakes near me (lighter brown shades, with black specks). For that matter, red shad worms seemed to draw a lot of strikes again for me this year too, so maybe there is some forage near that color I am unaware of, or "red" really does cause a reaction when other colors won't. I tried "watermelon" as well and got bit, but it just seemed "too green" for my local fish's preference. It seemed to be the young dumb little 12" dinks that bit the brighter shades for me this past year...I also gave some dark blue ones a shot (they appeared black to me in the water) and actually caught a few keeper sized fish on those too. As for brands, your mileage will vary. I usually like something either made of that 3X or super tough material (lasts a good long while on the hook, though they can be tough to actually get onto the hook they're so stretchy and tough to tear), and something either scent or salt impregnated. I am not sold on any particular brand as of yet, but the super tough ones get bit as much as the cheap ones (in my experience) and last much much longer, especially if there's any abrasive cover in the equation. Best of luck... |
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Brands won't matter much, but size & color will. Also technique is more
important than both ! A 3-4 inch watermellon tube with copper, red, or black flake is probably the #1 choice in Mich. with many anglers. Also try a white or pearl tube with nothing but a 3ought hook in dead calm water & let it slow spiral downward. Fish with an exposed hook in weedless conditions & an Owner bullit head hook if your comming through weeds or wood. good luck |
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'round here, you can fish just about any color tube as long as it's black.
(I like the blue tails though.) "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:gBXuf.30860$9G.22077@dukeread10... I want to spend more time fishing tubes could someone recommend some colors to start out with and also some brands? |
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what primary size should I use 4 inch??
"Charles B. Summers" charles wrote in message . .. 'round here, you can fish just about any color tube as long as it's black. (I like the blue tails though.) "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:gBXuf.30860$9G.22077@dukeread10... I want to spend more time fishing tubes could someone recommend some colors to start out with and also some brands? |
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Ratman, we just gotta' get together one day.
"RATMAN" wrote in message oups.com... Brands won't matter much, but size & color will. Also technique is more important than both ! A 3-4 inch watermellon tube with copper, red, or black flake is probably the #1 choice in Mich. with many anglers. Also try a white or pearl tube with nothing but a 3ought hook in dead calm water & let it slow spiral downward. Fish with an exposed hook in weedless conditions & an Owner bullit head hook if your comming through weeds or wood. good luck |
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"Pat_RI" wrote in message
news:gBXuf.30860$9G.22077@dukeread10... I want to spend more time fishing tubes could someone recommend some colors to start out with and also some brands? I've caught a couple fish flipping a red shad tube on a 3/16 t-rig in murky green water, but other than that I'ld probably say use it as a weightless slow jerk bait in -- Bob La Londe http://www.YumaBassMan.com |
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I'd pick up some 4" and some 3 1/2". I like the smaller ones because they
don't tend to bunch up as bad on the hook. "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:dq_uf.31714$9G.7309@dukeread10... what primary size should I use 4 inch?? "Charles B. Summers" charles wrote in message . .. 'round here, you can fish just about any color tube as long as it's black. (I like the blue tails though.) "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:gBXuf.30860$9G.22077@dukeread10... I want to spend more time fishing tubes could someone recommend some colors to start out with and also some brands? |
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Brand name doesn't mean much....... how do you lie with a straight sentence
(we can't see you face). You know Crooked Creek Salt Tubes are #1. Dark Melon/Copper Flake, Pumkin Pepper, Pearl White Silver Flake, Smoke with Blue Flake are my favorites, but good old BLACK works in all conditions, and anytime. Brand Name doesn't matter.............Just for that, I'm going to have Seth Pull your Order and no you cannot use Shuberts either - bad boy. -- Craig Baugher |
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I use thin-walled tubes, Zoom, BPS Tender Tubes and Luck-E-Strike. Mostly
black, pumpkinseed and watermelon, but just like other soft plastics, I believe a huge number of colors will work well. "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:gBXuf.30860$9G.22077@dukeread10... I want to spend more time fishing tubes could someone recommend some colors to start out with and also some brands? |
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Pat_RI wrote: I want to spend more time fishing tubes could someone recommend some colors to start out with and also some brands? Pat, I do agree that name's don't mean much, but I will only use a tube that is salted. Crooked Creek, Shueberts, some Bass Pro Shops Tender Tubes and my favorite, Phoenix Tubes, are all salted. I have found that you can get away with some pretty basic colors to start with, then experiment as you gain confidence. I prefer green pumpkin in dirty water (I'll dip the tails chartruese in extremely muddy water) and watermelon (with black flake) in clear water. You can play around with the various subtle changes to these two colors, but this is what works for me. I prefer the 3 1/2" size to start with and gain a limit or when we have extremely blue skies and very slick water. I'll use the 4" to gain that kicker fish or when the water has some color to it. For Phoenix Tubes, see: http://www.phoenixlures.com Jack ~~ Jack Dalzell www.jdbass.com www.OutdoorFrontiers.com ~~ |
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I fish Southern New York and Long Island waters, and for tubes a 4 inch Black Widow tube is my personal choice in black, smoke, or road kill in that order.
-- Joel Willstein Muscoot Reservoir Proud member of the Rat Pack. "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:gBXuf.30860$9G.22077@dukeread10... I want to spend more time fishing tubes could someone recommend some colors to start out with and also some brands? |
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Jack, that bronzeback series looks real good. I also like the qty. count for
the price. Thx for the link. Now all I need is the time to fish...........hehehe! -- ______________________________ Dave Norton Custom Trim & Millwork Millennium Custom Fishing Rods wrote in message oups.com... Pat_RI wrote: I want to spend more time fishing tubes could someone recommend some colors to start out with and also some brands? Pat, I do agree that name's don't mean much, but I will only use a tube that is salted. Crooked Creek, Shueberts, some Bass Pro Shops Tender Tubes and my favorite, Phoenix Tubes, are all salted. I have found that you can get away with some pretty basic colors to start with, then experiment as you gain confidence. I prefer green pumpkin in dirty water (I'll dip the tails chartruese in extremely muddy water) and watermelon (with black flake) in clear water. You can play around with the various subtle changes to these two colors, but this is what works for me. I prefer the 3 1/2" size to start with and gain a limit or when we have extremely blue skies and very slick water. I'll use the 4" to gain that kicker fish or when the water has some color to it. For Phoenix Tubes, see: http://www.phoenixlures.com Jack ~~ Jack Dalzell www.jdbass.com www.OutdoorFrontiers.com ~~ |
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Dave,
You're welcome, they are great tubes and the fact that Phoenix makes them in different sizes can be pretty helpful. You will not be disappointed in the quality. While you're at it, the Maverick (similar to a Sweet Beaver) is pretty awesome. While field testing them, we had an extremely finicky bite (early November) and I cut the big, center 'flappers' off and fished it like a crawfish. We caught some quality fish with them. They use a little different salt with the Maverick than with the tubes, I believe I was told it is 'flour salt' which has a pretty fine grain to it. We did fish these side-by-side with some other similar baits. Hope no one miscontrues this as an advertisement..... :-) Jack ~~ Jack Dalzell www.jdbass.com www.OutdoorFrontiers.com ~~ Dave Norton wrote: Jack, that bronzeback series looks real good. I also like the qty. count for the price. Thx for the link. Now all I need is the time to fish...........hehehe! -- ______________________________ Dave Norton Custom Trim & Millwork Millennium Custom Fishing Rods |
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Dave, You're welcome, they are great tubes and the fact that Phoenix makes them in different sizes can be pretty helpful. You will not be disappointed in the quality. While you're at it, the Maverick (similar to a Sweet Beaver) is pretty awesome. While field testing them, we had an extremely finicky bite (early November) and I cut the big, center 'flappers' off and fished it like a crawfish. We caught some quality fish with them. They use a little different salt with the Maverick than with the tubes, I believe I was told it is 'flour salt' which has a pretty fine grain to it. We did fish these side-by-side with some other similar baits. Hope no one miscontrues this as an advertisement..... :-) Naw, just makes me more interested in trying tubes this summer. As long as I'm sitting home with pneumonia, lets hear some comments about how to fish heavy weeds/wood and slop with them. Please. PS, I think I caught pneumonia standing outside practiceing flipping with the new Curados. I love them :} Jack ~~ Jack Dalzell www.jdbass.com www.OutdoorFrontiers.com ~~ Dave Norton wrote: Jack, that bronzeback series looks real good. I also like the qty. count for the price. Thx for the link. Now all I need is the time to fish...........hehehe! -- ______________________________ Dave Norton Custom Trim & Millwork Millennium Custom Fishing Rods Remove the x for e-mail reply www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.SecretWeaponLures.com A proud charter member of "PETAF", People for Eating Tasty Animals and Fish!!! |
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"Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now" wrote in message SNIP Naw, just makes me more interested in trying tubes this summer. As long as I'm sitting home with pneumonia, lets hear some comments about how to fish heavy weeds/wood and slop with them. Please. PS, I think I caught pneumonia standing outside practiceing flipping with the new Curados. I love them :} It's actually fairly simple. Texas Rig the tubes and fish em'! You can either fish them weightless, letting them slide across the tops of the weeds, then flutter into the holes or you can weight them with a pegged weight and flip/pitch to holes and pockets. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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I'm ready Jerry, as soon as the ice thaws !!!
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If there's a liar around here we all know who it is !!!!!
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Jack, Phoenix looks like the same manufacturer as Crooked Creek, Shueberts,
BPS Mag, am I right? Even if they are, you know each have their own specifications as it pertains to salt content. How are the Pheonix? Equal to CCT or closer to BPS Mags? -- Craig Baugher |
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"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message ... "Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now" wrote in message SNIP Naw, just makes me more interested in trying tubes this summer. As long as I'm sitting home with pneumonia, lets hear some comments about how to fish heavy weeds/wood and slop with them. Please. PS, I think I caught pneumonia standing outside practiceing flipping with the new Curados. I love them :} It's actually fairly simple. Texas Rig the tubes and fish em'! You can either fish them weightless, letting them slide across the tops of the weeds, then flutter into the holes or you can weight them with a pegged weight and flip/pitch to holes and pockets. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com Peg a bead, and put a skinny sliding sinker above the bead. Then the tube floats up off the bottom, and when a fish bites, only feels the bead not the weight. |
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Another way to rig them weedless.
Place a casting sinker inside the tube with the eye of the sinker going into the tube first. Then take a wide gap hook and texas/texpose rig it making sure the hook runs through the eye of the sinker. This works really well because the sinker keeps the hook from pulling out of the tube and the hook keeps the sinker from pulling out. If this doesn't make sense, maybe I can post a link to some pictures or explain a little better. Back to the original question. I like the Yum vibra tubes and Zoom, although I picked up some Rattlesnake tubes for $0.62 that look pretty good. White, pumpkin seed, and watermelon seed have been good to me, but like Marty said I'm sure there are a million colors that work. |
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Craig,
The Phoenix tubes are every bit as good as the Crooked Creeks.........very similar, in fact. The BPS Mags are (IMO) not even in the same catagory as CCT, Phoenix, ISG. Some BPS tender tubes (based on color) are pretty good, but you have to know which colors are salt impregnated and which have salt sprinkled on them. Phoenix has some pretty cool names for their colors too. :-) Jack ~~ Jack Dalzell www.jdbass.com www.OutdoorFrontiers.com ~~ |
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Jack here turned me onto ISG tubes a few years ago, I love em. I also like
Mizmo's tubes too. WW wrote in message oups.com... Craig, The Phoenix tubes are every bit as good as the Crooked Creeks.........very similar, in fact. The BPS Mags are (IMO) not even in the same catagory as CCT, Phoenix, ISG. Some BPS tender tubes (based on color) are pretty good, but you have to know which colors are salt impregnated and which have salt sprinkled on them. Phoenix has some pretty cool names for their colors too. :-) Jack ~~ Jack Dalzell www.jdbass.com www.OutdoorFrontiers.com ~~ |
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Now that is the truth! ;)
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wrote in message oups.com... Another way to rig them weedless. Place a casting sinker inside the tube with the eye of the sinker going into the tube first. Then take a wide gap hook and texas/texpose rig it making sure the hook runs through the eye of the sinker. This works really well because the sinker keeps the hook from pulling out of the tube and the hook keeps the sinker from pulling out. If this doesn't make sense, maybe I can post a link to some pictures or explain a little better. Back to the original question. I like the Yum vibra tubes and Zoom, although I picked up some Rattlesnake tubes for $0.62 that look pretty good. White, pumpkin seed, and watermelon seed have been good to me, but like Marty said I'm sure there are a million colors that work. Use a dart head in the tube. |
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How do you fish the jigs weedless? Texas Rigged??
"Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... wrote in message oups.com... Another way to rig them weedless. Place a casting sinker inside the tube with the eye of the sinker going into the tube first. Then take a wide gap hook and texas/texpose rig it making sure the hook runs through the eye of the sinker. This works really well because the sinker keeps the hook from pulling out of the tube and the hook keeps the sinker from pulling out. If this doesn't make sense, maybe I can post a link to some pictures or explain a little better. Back to the original question. I like the Yum vibra tubes and Zoom, although I picked up some Rattlesnake tubes for $0.62 that look pretty good. White, pumpkin seed, and watermelon seed have been good to me, but like Marty said I'm sure there are a million colors that work. Use a dart head in the tube. |
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Texas rig is one way to fish a tube weedless. So is using a ball jig and
putting it in hook first and poking it through the bottom while leaving enough room for the head to butt against the nose of the tube and then skinning the tube to protect the hook point. Or, you can buy ball jigs with wire weed guards. -- Craig Baugher |
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