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gADgeT January 7th, 2006 04:07 AM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
Any suggestions guys?

I have a good patterns from warm weather but I can't seem to catch much in
colder weather.

Any suggestions? Maybe a deeper pattern in the current?

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Dave Norton January 8th, 2006 05:52 PM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
Slow down, and when you think your retrieve is slow enough. Slow it down
more. This time of year you basically have to knock em over the head to get
a strike.

--
______________________________
Dave Norton
Custom Trim & Millwork
Millennium Custom Fishing Rods
"gADgeT" wrote in message
...
Any suggestions guys?

I have a good patterns from warm weather but I can't seem to catch much in
colder weather.

Any suggestions? Maybe a deeper pattern in the current?

~~~~~~~~~~~~
GW

http://www.upstateforums.com
Visit Today!!




Rodney Long January 8th, 2006 08:05 PM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
Dave Norton wrote:

Slow down, and when you think your retrieve is slow enough. Slow it down
more. This time of year you basically have to knock em over the head to get
a strike.


That's why the Wiggle rig works so well this time of the year,, you can
slow down to a complete stop, yet still keep your lure moving in that spot.

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dave Norton January 9th, 2006 12:23 AM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
And here we go again! Rodney, you're probably an alright guy. However this
NG has seen fit to "exclude" spamming, and advertising from posts
here.Something you just can't seem to get a handle on.You just can't get it
in your thick skull that the majority of posters on this NG could give a
rat''s ass about what you have come up with. It's not so much your gizmo's
that we object to, but rather your attitude that you have all the answers.
And "only" your answers are worth listening to.

Rodney, I would hazard a guess that most of the posters here "don't" want
you to go away "mad". We'd just like you to go "away"! You can regale me all
you want with your statistics, and I for one will cast a deaf ear on
anything you have to say!

--
______________________________
Dave Norton
Custom Trim & Millwork
Millennium Custom Fishing Rods
"Rodney Long" wrote in message
...
Dave Norton wrote:

Slow down, and when you think your retrieve is slow enough. Slow it down
more. This time of year you basically have to knock em over the head to
get a strike.


That's why the Wiggle rig works so well this time of the year,, you can
slow down to a complete stop, yet still keep your lure moving in that
spot.

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com




Rodney Long January 9th, 2006 01:02 AM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
Dave Norton wrote:
And here we go again! Rodney, you're probably an alright guy. However this
NG has seen fit to "exclude" spamming, and advertising from posts
here.Something you just can't seem to get a handle on.You just can't get it
in your thick skull that the majority of posters on this NG could give a
rat''s ass about what you have come up with.



Nothing I wrote could be considered as spam, A question was asked, I
answered it,, you don't like the answer, then give a "real" reason why
you think it is wrong, we will debate that, otherwise your comments are
not needed, as they are just a flame, which goes against the charter of
this group, and I will not get into flame war with you.

Nothing would have been said if a certain spinner bait was the answer,
even if those who are involved in that company made the post, it would
not have been called spam,, because it would not have been spam, it was
just answering a question.


It's not so much your gizmo's
that we object to, but rather your attitude that you have all the answers.
And "only" your answers are worth listening to.


I post rarely, just on what I know as fact, if I am mistaken, I admit
it. I make my living fishing, and developing new tackle, those actually
in the industry think I'm right a lot of the time. I spend most of my
time on the water "actually" testing tackle , lures, and rigs. Head to
head, something few here do, if any do. I don't just go fishing to have
fun, it's a job to me.

Rodney, I would hazard a guess that most of the posters here "don't" want
you to go away "mad". We'd just like you to go "away"! You can regale me all
you want with your statistics, and I for one will cast a deaf ear on
anything you have to say!


You have the right to believe anything you want,, you don't have the
right to try to keep others from hearing just what might be the truth.









--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dave Norton January 9th, 2006 01:56 AM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
The "truth" by " Rodney Long" !

--
______________________________
Dave Norton
Custom Trim & Millwork
Millennium Custom Fishing Rods
"Rodney Long" wrote in message
...
Dave Norton wrote:
And here we go again! Rodney, you're probably an alright guy. However
this NG has seen fit to "exclude" spamming, and advertising from posts
here.Something you just can't seem to get a handle on.You just can't get
it in your thick skull that the majority of posters on this NG could give
a rat''s ass about what you have come up with.



Nothing I wrote could be considered as spam, A question was asked, I
answered it,, you don't like the answer, then give a "real" reason why you
think it is wrong, we will debate that, otherwise your comments are not
needed, as they are just a flame, which goes against the charter of this
group, and I will not get into flame war with you.

Nothing would have been said if a certain spinner bait was the answer,
even if those who are involved in that company made the post, it would not
have been called spam,, because it would not have been spam, it was just
answering a question.


It's not so much your gizmo's that we object to, but rather your attitude
that you have all the answers. And "only" your answers are worth
listening to.


I post rarely, just on what I know as fact, if I am mistaken, I admit it.
I make my living fishing, and developing new tackle, those actually in the
industry think I'm right a lot of the time. I spend most of my time on the
water "actually" testing tackle , lures, and rigs. Head to head, something
few here do, if any do. I don't just go fishing to have fun, it's a job to
me.

Rodney, I would hazard a guess that most of the posters here "don't" want
you to go away "mad". We'd just like you to go "away"! You can regale me
all you want with your statistics, and I for one will cast a deaf ear on
anything you have to say!


You have the right to believe anything you want,, you don't have the right
to try to keep others from hearing just what might be the truth.









--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com




Rodney Long January 9th, 2006 02:26 AM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
Dave Norton wrote:

The "truth" by " Rodney Long" !



I see you have nothing to say about my answer being wrong, and the
reason you think it was a wrong answer for those fishing conditions,
thus we have nothing to debate.

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Bill & Sue January 9th, 2006 04:11 AM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 

"Dave Norton" wrote in message
...
The "truth" by " Rodney Long" !

================================================== ===============================

Now Dave, stop poking the troll. He might get angry. :)~ Bill P.




GL3Loomis January 9th, 2006 05:05 AM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
I think Rodney's idea is good and I find it quite easy to make my own rig.
Mojo sinker, tag elastic (that you can get from any fabric store), and 2
split rings. The rest is a standard dropshot.

--
Craig Baugher



Rodney Long January 9th, 2006 05:50 AM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
GL3Loomis wrote:

I think Rodney's idea is good and I find it quite easy to make my own rig.


It is not an "idea" it is a "patented" fishing rig, US Patent 6678993




Mojo sinker, tag elastic (that you can get from any fabric store), and 2
split rings. The rest is a standard dropshot.


Making your own is not only illegal, it is unethical, using elastic is
covered under the patent, but it is also not near as good as the
material we sell, (which was designed just for this use) it limits it's
use to being fished under the boat, you can't cast it far as the elastic
will break, if you use a stronger elastic, your having to chunk a lot of
lead. The material we have specially manufactured is "Spectra" wrapped
around living rubber, it can handle the hardest cast, so you can use the
rig horizonaly, fishing it along the bank. Any Place you would Carolina
or Texas rig. It takes only 3/8 oz weight to make it work, but you can
use over an oz.

If you can't afford buying the material, I will gladly send it to you
for free.



--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney Long January 9th, 2006 06:07 AM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
GL3Loomis wrote:
I think Rodney's idea is good and I find it quite easy to make my own rig.
Mojo sinker, tag elastic (that you can get from any fabric store), and 2
split rings. The rest is a standard dropshot.


I am sure you either did not know my rig was patented,, or you believed
that making something that is patented by someone else was Ok for
personal use,, this is not the case.

Personal use is still patent infringement, you can find this out by
reading the USPO web site, under their FAQ "what is a patent"

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Thundercat January 9th, 2006 06:10 AM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
delurk

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:50:21 -0600, Rodney Long
wrote:

snip

Making your own is not only illegal, it is unethical, using elastic is
covered under the patent


more snip

Careful Craig, remember what happened to Warren...

search archive....beep beep beedeep beep..ding

Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
From: "go-bassn"
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:48:53 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 19 2002 3:48 pm
Subject: Commercial posts (was Best plastic bait brand)


Arguing? Not me Vern. Just having a bit of summer dog-day fun. I
think
I'll call my rig "Fruit of the Boom"...


Warren

/delurk
Harry J aka Thundercat
Share the knowledge, compete on execution...
http://www.brooklynbillstackleshop.com
http://secretweaponlures.com

gADgeT January 9th, 2006 11:57 AM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
Dave Norton wrote:

Slow down, and when you think your retrieve is slow enough. Slow it down
more. This time of year you basically have to knock em over the head to
get a strike.


Yeah, good advice. I try to work it as slow as possible but river current
makes it difficult. The slow metabolism of the fish this time of year
dictates the slow retrieve, well.. most of time ;)

I was hoping for some new tips for cold water river bass.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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gADgeT January 9th, 2006 12:01 PM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
Rodney Long wrote:


That's why the Wiggle rig works so well this time of the year,, you can
slow down to a complete stop, yet still keep your lure moving in that
spot.


Geeze, is your custom rig the answer for everything? rolleyes

I don't need a special rig to stop my bait and make it wiggle. ;)

You a shill for the Flying Lure and Banjo Minnow too? lol

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gadget

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Bob La Londe January 9th, 2006 02:07 PM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 

"gADgeT" wrote in message
. ..
Dave Norton wrote:

Slow down, and when you think your retrieve is slow enough. Slow it down
more. This time of year you basically have to knock em over the head to
get a strike.


Yeah, good advice. I try to work it as slow as possible but river current
makes it difficult. The slow metabolism of the fish this time of year
dictates the slow retrieve, well.. most of time ;)

I was hoping for some new tips for cold water river bass.



You got smallmouth? Sometimes a crank bait off current breaks by rocks and
bats can surprise you with reaction strikes a faster retrieve than you might
think with the current or quartering casts upstream.
--
Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard January 9th, 2006 03:08 PM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:57:48 -0500, gADgeT
sent into the ether:

Dave Norton wrote:

Slow down, and when you think your retrieve is slow enough. Slow it down
more. This time of year you basically have to knock em over the head to
get a strike.


Yeah, good advice. I try to work it as slow as possible but river current
makes it difficult. The slow metabolism of the fish this time of year
dictates the slow retrieve, well.. most of time ;)

I was hoping for some new tips for cold water river bass.

Snip
Yes and instead you were replied to by what the majority of posters in
this group thinks of as someone whose mother and father failed
completely in teaching him manners, humility, and respect for others.

Please killfile him (I wish everyone would) or ignore him and continue
to post here. Your input is always welcome.



This has been a public service announcement from the Rodney Long
Killfile Assoc. Please feel free to join in at any time. There are
no dues!

Please remmember our motto...
"A jackass killfiled is like a fresh spring day on the water catching
5 lb Bass one after the other".





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Ken Fortenberry January 9th, 2006 03:26 PM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now wrote:

Yes and instead you were replied to by what the majority of posters in
this group thinks of as someone whose mother and father failed
completely in teaching him manners, humility, and respect for others.


The majority of posters in this group ? What, did you call
for a show of hands ? ;-)

Please killfile him (I wish everyone would) or ignore him and continue
to post here. Your input is always welcome.



This has been a public service announcement from the Rodney Long
Killfile Assoc. Please feel free to join in at any time. There are
no dues!

Please remmember our motto...
"A jackass killfiled is like a fresh spring day on the water catching
5 lb Bass one after the other".


Wow, is it cabin fever season already ? If you're going to
advocate ignoring someone it might be a good idea to do so
yourself instead of posting a flame. I mean, can't we all
get along ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

go-bassn January 9th, 2006 04:08 PM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
Lol Harry, I'd been waiting for the 2006 version of Rodney's Snakeoil
catalog to come out...

I'm a waitin no more!

Warren

"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
delurk

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:50:21 -0600, Rodney Long
wrote:

snip

Making your own is not only illegal, it is unethical, using elastic is
covered under the patent


more snip

Careful Craig, remember what happened to Warren...

search archive....beep beep beedeep beep..ding

Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.bass
From: "go-bassn"
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:48:53 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 19 2002 3:48 pm
Subject: Commercial posts (was Best plastic bait brand)


Arguing? Not me Vern. Just having a bit of summer dog-day fun. I
think
I'll call my rig "Fruit of the Boom"...


Warren

/delurk
Harry J aka Thundercat
Share the knowledge, compete on execution...
http://www.brooklynbillstackleshop.com
http://secretweaponlures.com




Thundercat January 9th, 2006 10:31 PM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 09:08:54 -0600, "Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard,
actually Greybeard now" wrote:

Please killfile him (I wish everyone would) or ignore him and continue
to post here. Your input is always welcome.



This has been a public service announcement from the Rodney Long
Killfile Assoc. Please feel free to join in at any time. There are
no dues!


I tried that once, but somehow he just wiggled his way right the f***
back out of there.

..
Harry J aka Thundercat
Share the knowledge, compete on execution...
http://www.brooklynbillstackleshop.com
http://secretweaponlures.com

Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers January 9th, 2006 11:04 PM

Best method for River Bass in the winter?
 

"gADgeT" wrote in message
...
Any suggestions guys?

I have a good patterns from warm weather but I can't seem to catch much in
colder weather.

Any suggestions? Maybe a deeper pattern in the current?


Do an internet search for Float n Fly, or maybe one of the guys here can
help you with it. I've heard it's an awesome cold water method, but haven't
had the chance to try it yet. When the water temps are cold, it seems I'm
chasing muskies.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com




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