What rod for the reel?
 

I recently decided to get a Shimano Sustain 2500, and was wondering
which rod to pair with it. I decided to get a 6' 6" / medium / fast or
extra fast rod but don't know what kind to get. Are the most expensive
ones really worth the money? Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Tyler

What rod for the reel?
 

"T" wrote in message
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I recently decided to get a Shimano Sustain 2500, and was wondering
which rod to pair with it. I decided to get a 6' 6" / medium / fast or
extra fast rod but don't know what kind to get. Are the most expensive
ones really worth the money? Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Tyler


There is a point of diminishing returns on cost per benefit on rods. You
can spend a lot more, but why?

Take a look at the St. Croix Avid and Tournament series of rods. If you
really want to go "Top Shelf", look at their Legend Elite series. I use a
lot of the Tournament and Legend blanks when I build rods. A 6'6" to 7'
extra fast or fast, medium light to medium power is a good match to the
reel.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

What rod for the reel?
 

Steve is biased, since he lives so close to St Croix's plant o:) ! First set
a limit on what you care to spend, then check out 3-4 different
manufacturers. There are alot of quality rods out there now, and a lot of
real good rod blanks. And that is is where the difference is in a rod today.
And of course how much care was taken when it was assembled.When possible
it is always best to test cast a rod before you get stuck. Hope this helps
some!

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Dave Norton
Custom Trim & Millwork
Millennium Custom Fishing Rods
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"T" wrote in message
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I recently decided to get a Shimano Sustain 2500, and was wondering
which rod to pair with it. I decided to get a 6' 6" / medium / fast or
extra fast rod but don't know what kind to get. Are the most expensive
ones really worth the money? Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Tyler


There is a point of diminishing returns on cost per benefit on rods. You
can spend a lot more, but why?

Take a look at the St. Croix Avid and Tournament series of rods. If you
really want to go "Top Shelf", look at their Legend Elite series. I use a
lot of the Tournament and Legend blanks when I build rods. A 6'6" to 7'
extra fast or fast, medium light to medium power is a good match to the
reel.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

What rod for the reel?
 

"Dave Norton" wrote in message
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Steve is biased, since he lives so close to St Croix's plant o:) ! First
set a limit on what you care to spend, then check out 3-4 different
manufacturers. There are alot of quality rods out there now, and a lot of
real good rod blanks. And that is is where the difference is in a rod
today. And of course how much care was taken when it was assembled.When
possible it is always best to test cast a rod before you get stuck. Hope
this helps some!

Well yeah, I guess I am. It is nice that I can drive to the factory and
handpick the blanks I want. Often times, I thought I wanted one particular
blank, but instead ended up with another. A classic example is a
baitcasting rod I built using a spinning rod blank. It gave me exactly the
action I was looking for.

But Dave's advice is right on. Check out as many different rods as you can
and pick the one you like. All-Pro, Falcon, Loomis and others make good
rods, as does St. Croix! :-) Take the reel with you and see how it
balances out and more importantly, how it casts.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

What rod for the reel?
 

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
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"Dave Norton" wrote in message
...
Steve is biased, since he lives so close to St Croix's plant o:) ! First
set a limit on what you care to spend, then check out 3-4 different
manufacturers. There are alot of quality rods out there now, and a lot of
real good rod blanks. And that is is where the difference is in a rod
today. And of course how much care was taken when it was assembled.When
possible it is always best to test cast a rod before you get stuck. Hope
this helps some!

Well yeah, I guess I am. It is nice that I can drive to the factory and
handpick the blanks I want. Often times, I thought I wanted one
particular blank, but instead ended up with another. A classic example is
a baitcasting rod I built using a spinning rod blank. It gave me exactly
the action I was looking for.

But Dave's advice is right on. Check out as many different rods as you
can and pick the one you like. All-Pro, Falcon, Loomis and others make
good rods, as does St. Croix! :-) Take the reel with you and see how it
balances out and more importantly, how it casts.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Also depends what you are throwing with the rod. Treble hook Crank baits,
require a different speed rod than a worm rod.

What rod for the reel?
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in messageSNIP

Also depends what you are throwing with the rod. Treble hook Crank baits,
require a different speed rod than a worm rod.

Not really. I've caught an awful lot of fish on crankbaits fished from an
extra-fast or fast rod. There are advantages to using a moderate action
rod, but it's not really a requirement. Actually, I prefer to use faster,
and more sensitive rods when I'm fishing crankbaits. I can tell if the lure
is working properly, if it's hitting bottom like it's supposed to (if I'm
fishing a deep diver) and I get better hooksets.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

What rod for the reel?
 

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
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"Calif Bill" wrote in messageSNIP

Also depends what you are throwing with the rod. Treble hook Crank
baits, require a different speed rod than a worm rod.

Not really. I've caught an awful lot of fish on crankbaits fished from an
extra-fast or fast rod. There are advantages to using a moderate action
rod, but it's not really a requirement. Actually, I prefer to use faster,
and more sensitive rods when I'm fishing crankbaits. I can tell if the
lure is working properly, if it's hitting bottom like it's supposed to (if
I'm fishing a deep diver) and I get better hooksets.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Yu can have a slower action sensitive rod also. Speed is not sensitivity.

What rod for the reel?
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in messageSNIP

Also depends what you are throwing with the rod. Treble hook Crank
baits, require a different speed rod than a worm rod.

Not really. I've caught an awful lot of fish on crankbaits fished from
an extra-fast or fast rod. There are advantages to using a moderate
action rod, but it's not really a requirement. Actually, I prefer to use
faster, and more sensitive rods when I'm fishing crankbaits. I can tell
if the lure is working properly, if it's hitting bottom like it's
supposed to (if I'm fishing a deep diver) and I get better hooksets.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Yu can have a slower action sensitive rod also. Speed is not sensitivity.

This is true, but many of the moderate action rods with a more parabolic
bend seem less sensitive to me. At least that's been true of the ones I've
used and handled over the years. And I freely admit, I prefer the way a
fast or extra fast action rod feels.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

What rod for the reel?
 

Bill, not to cast dispersions on anything you said ,but this is a topic that
Steve and I are certainly on the same page.

I might "suggest" a softer action rod to someone with less experience. But I
certainly perfer a faster "action" blank. I might give up a bit as far as
"power" is concerned . But I want to "feel" what that lure is doing. You
just don't get that in a 44 million modulus blank.JMHO!

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Custom Trim & Millwork
Millennium Custom Fishing Rods
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"Calif Bill" wrote in messageSNIP

Also depends what you are throwing with the rod. Treble hook Crank
baits, require a different speed rod than a worm rod.

Not really. I've caught an awful lot of fish on crankbaits fished from
an extra-fast or fast rod. There are advantages to using a moderate
action rod, but it's not really a requirement. Actually, I prefer to
use faster, and more sensitive rods when I'm fishing crankbaits. I can
tell if the lure is working properly, if it's hitting bottom like it's
supposed to (if I'm fishing a deep diver) and I get better hooksets.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Yu can have a slower action sensitive rod also. Speed is not
sensitivity.

This is true, but many of the moderate action rods with a more parabolic
bend seem less sensitive to me. At least that's been true of the ones
I've used and handled over the years. And I freely admit, I prefer the
way a fast or extra fast action rod feels.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

What rod for the reel?
 

T wrote:

I recently decided to get a Shimano Sustain 2500, and was wondering
which rod to pair with it. I decided to get a 6' 6" / medium / fast or
extra fast rod but don't know what kind to get. Are the most expensive
ones really worth the money? Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Tyler

T,

I have been really happy with the Fenwick Venture rods I have gotten at
Wal-Mart. No, they aren't the most expensive rods out there at $50, but
they fish really well. I have both spinning and casting versions, 6'6"
and 7' spinning and a 6'6" casting that has a real soft tip...I use it
for cranking. I use the spinning rods for soft plastics.

BD

What rod for the reel?
 

"Dave Norton" wrote in message
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Bill, not to cast dispersions on anything you said ,but this is a topic
that Steve and I are certainly on the same page.

I might "suggest" a softer action rod to someone with less experience. But
I certainly perfer a faster "action" blank. I might give up a bit as far
as "power" is concerned . But I want to "feel" what that lure is doing.
You just don't get that in a 44 million modulus blank.JMHO!

--
______________________________
Dave Norton
Custom Trim & Millwork
Millennium Custom Fishing Rods
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"Calif Bill" wrote in messageSNIP

Also depends what you are throwing with the rod. Treble hook Crank
baits, require a different speed rod than a worm rod.

Not really. I've caught an awful lot of fish on crankbaits fished from
an extra-fast or fast rod. There are advantages to using a moderate
action rod, but it's not really a requirement. Actually, I prefer to
use faster, and more sensitive rods when I'm fishing crankbaits. I can
tell if the lure is working properly, if it's hitting bottom like it's
supposed to (if I'm fishing a deep diver) and I get better hooksets.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Yu can have a slower action sensitive rod also. Speed is not
sensitivity.

This is true, but many of the moderate action rods with a more parabolic
bend seem less sensitive to me. At least that's been true of the ones
I've used and handled over the years. And I freely admit, I prefer the
way a fast or extra fast action rod feels.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com




I know Gary Dobyn's casually and maybe because he designs rods also (Powell
Rods) he advocates different powers or speeds for different methods.
Flippin is not the same speed requirement as a jig or worm rod.

What rod for the reel?
 

GLoomis GL2 fast tip, medium action, not much more than entry level St.
Croix and sensitivity is noticeably better. Pair that with your Sustain and
you have an awesome setup. GL2 about $125.00 give or take or go further
with the GL3 for around $200.00

Doug


"T" wrote in message
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I recently decided to get a Shimano Sustain 2500, and was wondering
which rod to pair with it. I decided to get a 6' 6" / medium / fast or
extra fast rod but don't know what kind to get. Are the most expensive
ones really worth the money? Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Tyler

What rod for the reel?
 

Hey guys,
Thanks for the responses, I really appreciate it. I will definately
consider all of them before I make my final choice. It seems that most
people have their own personal preferences, however, I take it you are
all opposed to the idea of ordering a rod off of the internet, without
trying it with the reel (good advice). In the end, most likely my
skill/style of fishing will grow/adapt along with the setup that I
choose. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts,
T