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Press Release


Paradise Area Tourism Council
P.O. Box 64, Paradise, Michigan 49768 USA
Telephone: (906) 492-3927 (Voicemail only)
E-Mail:

Things to do in Paradise,
Michigan:
Rev.031406

Paradise, Michigan is one of the best kept vacation secrets in America.
Located in the heart of Lake Superior State Forest (1,020,000 acres) on
the shore of Hiawatha's Lake Gitchigumie, near the historic Tahquamenon
and Hemingway's Two-Hearted Rivers, Paradise is an ideal destination
for anyone seeking outdoor adventures. With many of America's
wilderness areas being crowded by millions of people in search of the
quiet serenity that only nature can offer, Paradise more than lives up
to its name by offering one of the largest wilderness regions in the
United States.

Summer visitors can enjoy birdwatching, kayaking and canoeing, camping
and backpacking,
fishing our many lakes and rivers, ORVing, or just driving quietly
along hundreds of miles of
public trails. You can SCUBA dive a graveyard of sunken ships claimed
by the legendary gales of Lake Superior, or launch your boat from the
public access at Whitefish Point Harbor. Historic Whitefish Point
offers a view of one of the last working lighthouses, as well as a
Shipwreck Museum, gift shop, and birdwatching center. Or visit the
waterfalls of the Tahquamenon River; the Upper Falls is the largest
waterfall east of the Mississippi, and its honey-colored tannin-hued
waters make it unlike any other.

Winter turns Paradise, Michigan into a true winter wonderland. With an
annual 20+ feet of
snowfall, Paradise gets more powder than Anchorage, Alaska, and
midwinter temps sometimes dip below minus-30 Farenheit. Snowmobile
rentals and fuel are available, and a groomed trail provides access to
local businesses. If snowmobiling isn't your thing, consider the
hundreds of miles of groomed and ungroomed trails that are open to
snowshoeing and cross-country skiers.

Paradise has been called the Blueberry Capitol of the World, and
rightfully so; from July
through November, blueberry lovers can pick their fill from public
forest, without permit or fee
(who says nothing is free anymore?). And the Annual Blueberry Festival,
held the third weekend of August, is a celebration not to be missed by
visitors or residents.

Wildlife is abundant in the Paradise area of Lake Superior State
Forest. Moose are especially prevalent near the mouth of the
Tahquamenon River, but the region is also home to black bears, otters,
cougars, gray wolves, whitetails, sandhill cranes, bald eagles, and
other wild species to delight the most avid naturalist. Bring a camera
to record what are sure to be great memories.

For a guaranteed view of wildlife, world renowned Oswald's Bear Ranch,
30 miles west of
Paradise, offers a unique close-up view of black bears of different
ages. Admission is $10 per car, and visitors can enjoy the unguided
walk-through tour for as long as they'd like.

If you've a hankering to see full-blooded timber wolves, Paradise can
fulfill that desire as
well. Just 5 miles north of town on Whitefish Point Road you'll find
Timberwolf Wilderness
Adventures guide service, where professional guides Cheanne Chellis and
author Len McDougall conduct by-appointment-only seminars free of
charge. There you'll meet Chakota, Kenai, and Nahanni, learn about wolf
behavior from two of America's most knowledgeable canine experts, and
maybe get a wolf kiss from Chakota, leader of the pack. Call for an
appointment at (906) 492-3905; drop-ins must frequently be turned away.


Timberwolf Wilderness Adventures also provides guided tours and
wilderness skills classes.
Summer visitors can kayak a leisurely 18 miles downstream on the
Tahquamenon River, or take a more adventurous 3-day tour of the wild
Betsy River. Winter visitors can learn to actually drive a dogsled in
TWA's Dogsledding Workshops, or take a day-long snowshoe tour of
winter-hushed forest. Afficionados of wilderness survival can book a
course with globally
recognized expert Len McDougall in any season. All equipment and meals
are provided. Cost is $100 per day per person for day tours and
workshops, $150 per day per person for multi-day excursions.

Paradise offers a number of clean, comfortable motels and lodging
resorts, from the modern
Best Western and historic Curley's to the cozy Vagabond hotel and
romantic Whitefish Bay
Cabins. You'll find plenty of parking space for boat, snowmobile, and
ORV trailers, or the
largest RVs and tour buses.

If you'd prefer to camp, Michigan's Department of Natural Resources
operates two fully
attended modern campgrounds on the Tahquamenon River, complete with
heated bathrooms,
showers, and waste dump facilities. Two unattended rustic campgrounds
on beautiful Andrus
Lake and the wild Betsy River Flooding provide the serenity many
visitors are seeking, as well as some of the best pike fishing you'll
find anywhere.

If you're looking for a fine meal, there are a number of good choices.
Camp 33 at Tahquamenon's Upper Falls, 14 miles west on M-123, is a
premiere year-round dining establishment, complete with a micro-brewery
offering unique local beers (a Parks sticker is required between 8 a.m.
and 5 p.m.). In town, Little Falls restaurant, adjoining the Red
Flannel Saloon is another great choice. And don't overlook Brown's Fish
House on M-123 at the edge of town, where you'll find the freshest
whitefish you've ever tasted. If you awaken with a big appetite, stop
in to the Berry Patch Bakery and ask for Shirley's belt-loosening
Lumberjack Breakfast.

If you're planning a vacation that involves getting close to nature,
Paradise is the very definition of wilderness. Being neighborly is a
way of life for Paradisians, so if you've been disillusioned by
trampled parks and tourist destinations where visitors are made to feel
like dollar signs, don't you think it's time to experience Paradise?

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"Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer" wrote...


snip a buncha crap

Press Release


Paradise Area Tourism Council

snip more crap

Gee, Len. Is Cheanne gonna supply the review for this little article, too?
Enquiring minds want to know.


Dan
.... I mean what difference does it make? Her opinion must be honest, right?

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"Daniel-San" wrote in message
t...

"Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer" wrote...


snip a buncha crap

Press Release


Paradise Area Tourism Council

snip more crap

Gee, Len. Is Cheanne gonna supply the review for this little article, too?
Enquiring minds want to know.


Dan
... I mean what difference does it make? Her opinion must be honest,
right?

Good God, man, have a care! I mean, do you know who this guy IS?!

Wolfgang
who has heard rumors that len has actually
survived.....outdoors.....alone.....in the superior state forest!.....for
hours at a time! :(

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"Wolfgang" wrote ...



Good God, man, have a care! I mean, do you know who this guy IS?!

Wolfgang
who has heard rumors that len has actually
survived.....outdoors.....alone.....in the superior state forest!.....for
hours at a time! :(

Is the "anti-smiley" for the fact that he survived? ;-)

Don't forget that he is a "globally recognized expert".

Since Usenet is in fact global, I'm sure there are at least a coupla folks
across this little planet that certainly recognize him as an expert, tho I
ain't gonna speculate as to the field of his expert-ness.

He might sue, after all.

http://tinyurl.com/gcbe3 You may need to scroll up...


Dan

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"I" wrote ...

http://tinyurl.com/gcbe3 You may need to scroll up...


....actually... it would be more helpful to click on ol' Lenny's name at the
top of that thread...

Dan
....who apparently knows jack shee-it about using Google groups. Does that
make me a globally recognized expert, Len? I wanna be one, too!

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"Daniel-San" wrote in message
et...

"Wolfgang" wrote ...



Good God, man, have a care! I mean, do you know who this guy IS?!

Wolfgang
who has heard rumors that len has actually
survived.....outdoors.....alone.....in the superior state forest!.....for
hours at a time! :(

Is the "anti-smiley" for the fact that he survived? ;-)

Nah. Fear.....pure and simple.

Don't forget that he is a "globally recognized expert".

Misprint, I think. "Globular".

Since Usenet is in fact global, I'm sure there are at least a coupla folks
across this little planet that certainly recognize him as an expert, tho I
ain't gonna speculate as to the field of his expert-ness.

He might sue, after all.

Interesting. I've never been sued. Is it fun? :)

http://tinyurl.com/gcbe3 You may need to scroll up...

Took a peek. Wasn't necessary. We've met before. We even hang out in the
same neighborhood sometimes. So do you, if I'm not mistaken.....or, near
enough, anyway. So, you KNOW what it takes to survive there.....on a
picnic.....in mid June! shudder!

Wolfgang
for whom the memory repression therapy WAS working so well! :(

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"Wolfgang" wrote ...

"Daniel-San" wrote ...

"Wolfgang" wrote ...



Good God, man, have a care! I mean, do you know who this guy IS?!

Wolfgang
who has heard rumors that len has actually
survived.....outdoors.....alone.....in the superior state
forest!.....for hours at a time! :(

Is the "anti-smiley" for the fact that he survived? ;-)

Nah. Fear.....pure and simple.

Don't forget that he is a "globally recognized expert".

Misprint, I think. "Globular".

Well done, Wolfgang.


Since Usenet is in fact global, I'm sure there are at least a coupla
folks across this little planet that certainly recognize him as an
expert, tho I ain't gonna speculate as to the field of his expert-ness.

He might sue, after all.

Interesting. I've never been sued. Is it fun? :)


That's one of the many things I hope to never experience in my life.


http://tinyurl.com/gcbe3 You may need to scroll up...

Took a peek. Wasn't necessary. We've met before. We even hang out in
the same neighborhood sometimes. So do you, if I'm not mistaken.....or,
near enough, anyway. So, you KNOW what it takes to survive there.....on a
picnic.....in mid June! shudder!

I do in fact pollute a few other NGs with my commentary. R.BC is one of
them, and it's where I was fortunate enough to have made the electronic
acquaintance of Mr. McDougall. Fortunate in that after having made said
acquaintance, I now know exactly who should accompany Mr. Vandeman on the
first rocket to the sun. The question was bugging me a bit. The things that
keep one up at night.....

To survive in mid-June....an alcohol stove is clearly a prerequisite. ;-)


Wolfgang
for whom the memory repression therapy WAS working so well! :(

"Memory repression?" I just call it booze.

Dan
....and yes, it does work well.....

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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 05:07:35 GMT, "Daniel-San"
wrote:

(snipped)

I do in fact pollute a few other NGs with my commentary. R.BC is one of
them, and it's where I was fortunate enough to have made the electronic
acquaintance of Mr. McDougall. Fortunate in that after having made said
acquaintance, I now know exactly who should accompany Mr. Vandeman on the
first rocket to the sun. The question was bugging me a bit. The things that
keep one up at night.....

To survive in mid-June....an alcohol stove is clearly a prerequisite. ;-)


Alcohol may be. The stove isn't necessary. There are restaurants
scattered around that wilderness of the UP at close enough intervals.
Naturally there isn't much else. Dunno why they're there. It's a
wilderness full of wild animals and wild trees and Len and nothing
else, right? No human customers except the brave up there in da
Youper. It's a _wilderness_. We have Len's word for it. All those
things that look like farms and cottages and small businesses and
grocery store and stuff are just Ptomkin fakes.

The part I found scary was the sloppy kiss from a wolf. Duh. A wild
animal (supposedly) with really big teeth that close to my face. No
thanks. Maybe that's what happened to good old Tommy Beno from r.bc..
Took a class from Len, met a wolf and never returned.
--

r.bc: vixen
Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher, etc..
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.
Really.

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"Daniel-San" wrote in message
. com...

I do in fact pollute a few other NGs with my commentary. R.BC is one of
them, and it's where I was fortunate enough to have made the electronic
acquaintance of Mr. McDougall.

Actually, I had a real world physical environment in mind. I assumed that
your travels in the U.P. must have taken you to the Lake Superior State
Forest at one time or another. But, I suppose it doesn't much matter, as
one can easily get a good feel for the stature of the man from R.BC without
having seen the hellish wilderness he single-handedly tamed with nothing
more than his teeth and native wi........um.....with his teeth. :)

Fortunate in that after having made said acquaintance, I now know exactly
who should accompany Mr. Vandeman on the first rocket to the sun. The
question was bugging me a bit. The things that keep one up at night.....

True, true......it's not enough that we as a species have fouled our own
nest, we must now spread the pollution to the very life giving sun!

To survive in mid-June....an alcohol stove is clearly a prerequisite. ;-)

Good idea. One could use it to preheat the Dragonfly. :)

Wolfgang
for whom the memory repression therapy WAS working so well! :(

"Memory repression?" I just call it booze.

Dan
...and yes, it does work well.....

Only if one adheres rigidly to regimen. A single relapse and it all comes
flooding back. :(

Wolfgang

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"Wolfgang" wrote ...

"Daniel-San" wrote ...

I do in fact pollute a few other NGs with my commentary. R.BC is one of
them, and it's where I was fortunate enough to have made the electronic
acquaintance of Mr. McDougall.

Actually, I had a real world physical environment in mind. I assumed that
your travels in the U.P. must have taken you to the Lake Superior State
Forest at one time or another. But, I suppose it doesn't much matter, as
one can easily get a good feel for the stature of the man from R.BC
without having seen the hellish wilderness he single-handedly tamed with
nothing more than his teeth and native wi........um.....with his teeth.
:)

I don't believe that I've ever met anyone with whom I've chatted over
Usenet. One person from the backpacker.com boards, but that was accidental,
so I guess it doesn't count.

But... yes, I have been thru LSSF more than once. It really is replete with
danger. I mean all those trees could attack, couldn't they? I heard the tree
mafia is organizing right now behind ol' Lenny's Log Cabin.

All of those "globally [globularly?] recognized" survival skills sure come
in handy when defending your shopping cart, eh?


Fortunate in that after having made said acquaintance, I now know exactly
who should accompany Mr. Vandeman on the first rocket to the sun. The
question was bugging me a bit. The things that keep one up at night.....

True, true......it's not enough that we as a species have fouled our own
nest, we must now spread the pollution to the very life giving sun!

To survive in mid-June....an alcohol stove is clearly a prerequisite. ;-)

Good idea. One could use it to preheat the Dragonfly. :)

Wolfgang
for whom the memory repression therapy WAS working so well! :(

"Memory repression?" I just call it booze.

Dan
...and yes, it does work well.....

Only if one adheres rigidly to regimen. A single relapse and it all comes
flooding back. :(

"To alcohol. The cause of......and solution to... all of life's problems."
--Homer Simpson.

Speaking of troutin' in Wisconsin (which we weren't, but when has that ever
stopped me?), the early C&R season is open now, no? I just got my license
with the special "Oh, yer from Illernoise, eh?" added bonus on the price
tag. $70 this year.


Dan

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"Daniel-San" wrote in message
et...

...Speaking of troutin' in Wisconsin (which we weren't, but when has that
ever stopped me?), the early C&R season is open now, no?

Yep.

I just got my license with the special "Oh, yer from Illernoise, eh?"
added bonus on the price tag. $70 this year.

Ouch! Well, your money does some good work, anyway. :)

Wolfgang

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"Wolfgang" wrote...

"Daniel-San" wrote ...

...Speaking of troutin' in Wisconsin (which we weren't, but when has that
ever stopped me?), the early C&R season is open now, no?

Yep.

I'm prolly gonna head up to the BEC some time next week to freeze my large
ass off and to see if my casting skills have miraculously advanced from
"horrifically ****ty" to "mediocre" over the winter. Somehow, I doubt that
they have.


I just got my license with the special "Oh, yer from Illernoise, eh?"
added bonus on the price tag. $70 this year.

Ouch! Well, your money does some good work, anyway. :)

This is gonna be an expensive license year: Illinois, Tennessee (brother
moved to Nashville), Michigan, Curdistan, and prolly Minnie-ho-ho as well.

I heard somewhere that Wisconsin was going to be a "display your license"
state soon. Heard anything on that? When I bought my license the other day,
the guy at Gander Mountain was (surprise!) clueless.


Wolfgang

Dan

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"Daniel-San" wrote in message
t...

"Wolfgang" wrote...

I'm prolly gonna head up to the BEC some time next week to freeze my large
ass off and to see if my casting skills have miraculously advanced from
"horrifically ****ty" to "mediocre" over the winter. Somehow, I doubt that
they have.

It sometimes happens all of a sudden like that. You might be surprised.

I just got my license with the special "Oh, yer from Illernoise, eh?"
added bonus on the price tag. $70 this year.

Ouch! Well, your money does some good work, anyway. :)

This is gonna be an expensive license year: Illinois, Tennessee (brother
moved to Nashville), Michigan, Curdistan, and prolly Minnie-ho-ho as well.

I heard somewhere that Wisconsin was going to be a "display your license"
state soon. Heard anything on that? When I bought my license the other
day, the guy at Gander Mountain was (surprise!) clueless.

I haven't heard anything about it either. I think it's a good idea myself.
Not that I think it makes any real difference in enforcement, but once
accustomed to pinning it the back of the vest, one never needs to worry
about where the damned thing is anymore.

On second thought, it might make just a wee bit of difference in
enforcement. I was once fishing in the Wisconsin river with a friend. We
were wading about fifty yards off shore when a warden came up on the bank
and asked us whether or not we had licenses. Yep, we replied. He asked us
to hold them up. So, we fished them out and held them up. At that range any
bit of pale blue (I think it was blue that year) paper would have done. All
one will have to do now is keep a stock of variously colored bits of paper
in that pin-on license holder.......and stay well aware from
shore......um.....and open water deep enough for an outboard motor, I guess.
:)

Wolfgang
and thus begins yet another journey on the road to deportation to canada.
:(

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"Wolfgang" wrote ...

"Daniel-San" wrote ...

"Wolfgang" wrote...

I'm prolly gonna head up to the BEC some time next week to freeze my
large ass off and to see if my casting skills have miraculously advanced
from "horrifically ****ty" to "mediocre" over the winter. Somehow, I
doubt that they have.

It sometimes happens all of a sudden like that. You might be surprised.

I just got my license with the special "Oh, yer from Illernoise, eh?"
added bonus on the price tag. $70 this year.

Ouch! Well, your money does some good work, anyway. :)

This is gonna be an expensive license year: Illinois, Tennessee (brother
moved to Nashville), Michigan, Curdistan, and prolly Minnie-ho-ho as
well.

I heard somewhere that Wisconsin was going to be a "display your license"
state soon. Heard anything on that? When I bought my license the other
day, the guy at Gander Mountain was (surprise!) clueless.

I haven't heard anything about it either. I think it's a good idea
myself.

FWIW, I agree. First time I even saw such a thing was in NJ a coupla years
ago, fishing with my brother. It certainly is easier than digging into
lord-knows-which pocket when Officer Friendly comes around.


Not that I think it makes any real difference in enforcement, but once
accustomed to pinning it the back of the vest, one never needs to worry
about where the damned thing is anymore.

On second thought, it might make just a wee bit of difference in
enforcement. I was once fishing in the Wisconsin river with a friend. We
were wading about fifty yards off shore when a warden came up on the bank
and asked us whether or not we had licenses. Yep, we replied. He asked
us to hold them up. So, we fished them out and held them up. At that
range any bit of pale blue (I think it was blue that year) paper would
have done. All one will have to do now is keep a stock of variously
colored bits of paper in that pin-on license holder.......and stay well
aware from shore......um.....and open water deep enough for an outboard
motor, I guess. :)


While it's not exactly my favorite type of fishing, I do the troll for
salmon thing on the "big pond" with pops. He loves it, I enjoy the time with
pops.

Anyway.... we usually launch from North Point marina, which is a few hundred
yards from the border with Wisconsin. Early in the season (when the fish are
frequent, but small) the Wis. DNR is out in force. They hover just north of
the border and then drive up next to you. Remove license from pocket and
hold up -- usually. Last spring, we were checked and had to speak with Mr.
Warden over the VHF. Had to tell him some string of numbers from the license
(customer number, IIRC). He presumably ran these numbers thru some kinda
'puter to make sure we had paid the proper vig for the license and salmon
stamp.

I guess the moral of the story is that the colored paper trick musta been
thought of......


Wolfgang
and thus begins yet another journey on the road to deportation to canada.
:(

"Curdistan", "Canuckistan" what's the difference? :-)

Dan

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"Daniel-San" wrote in message
et...

.... we usually launch from North Point marina, which is a few hundred
yards from the border with Wisconsin. Early in the season (when the fish
are frequent, but small) the Wis. DNR is out in force. They hover just
north of the border and then drive up next to you. Remove license from
pocket and hold up -- usually. Last spring, we were checked and had to
speak with Mr. Warden over the VHF. Had to tell him some string of numbers
from the license (customer number, IIRC). He presumably ran these numbers
thru some kinda 'puter to make sure we had paid the proper vig for the
license and salmon stamp.

I guess the moral of the story is that the colored paper trick musta been
thought of......

Figures. The *******s are always one step ahead of me. :(

I know the marina......grew up in Kenosha. Haven't been down quite that far
in a while, but I've been paddling along much of the lakeshore from near the
state line to Manitowoc the last two years. You should let me know when
you've got a free day some weekend. We can go out in kayaks and troll along
the shore. There ARE fish to be caught that way. I was much surprised, at
first, to see quite a few trout and salmon while out paddling. It's not my
favorite way to fish either, but what the hell.....if I'm out there anyway.

Wolfgang
and thus begins yet another journey on the road to deportation to canada.
:(

"Curdistan", "Canuckistan" what's the difference? :-)

Gets cold up nort, eh? They got electricity yet?

Wolfgang

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"Cyli" wrote om...
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 05:07:35 GMT, "Daniel-San"
wrote:

(snipped)

I do in fact pollute a few other NGs with my commentary. R.BC is one of
them, and it's where I was fortunate enough to have made the electronic
acquaintance of Mr. McDougall. Fortunate in that after having made said
acquaintance, I now know exactly who should accompany Mr. Vandeman on the
first rocket to the sun. The question was bugging me a bit. The things
that
keep one up at night.....

To survive in mid-June....an alcohol stove is clearly a prerequisite. ;-)


Alcohol may be. The stove isn't necessary.

Inside 'joke' referring rather poorly to a discussion Wolfgang and I had
alcohol stoves a bit ago.

There are restaurants
scattered around that wilderness of the UP at close enough intervals.
Naturally there isn't much else. Dunno why they're there. It's a
wilderness full of wild animals and wild trees and Len and nothing
else, right? No human customers except the brave up there in da
Youper. It's a _wilderness_. We have Len's word for it.

And I tell ya what -- Len's word is as good as it gets, eh? I mean, a man
could die out there. It's at least a few miles to the nearest pasty stand,
no? All of those wilderness survival skills he has amassed must come in
handy up there.


All those
things that look like farms and cottages and small businesses and
grocery store and stuff are just Ptomkin fakes.

The part I found scary was the sloppy kiss from a wolf. Duh. A wild
animal (supposedly) with really big teeth that close to my face. No
thanks. Maybe that's what happened to good old Tommy Beno from r.bc..
Took a class from Len, met a wolf and never returned.

Beno, Lenny, and Mikey. What a fun trio.

Did the question of the legality of Lenny's wolf-pack-in-a-cage ever get
resolved? I forget.

--

r.bc: vixen
Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher, etc..
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.
Really.

Dan

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"Wolfgang" wrote...

"Daniel-San" wrote ...

.... we usually launch from North Point marina, which is a few hundred
yards from the border with Wisconsin. Early in the season (when the fish
are frequent, but small) the Wis. DNR is out in force. They hover just
north of the border and then drive up next to you. Remove license from
pocket and hold up -- usually. Last spring, we were checked and had to
speak with Mr. Warden over the VHF. Had to tell him some string of
numbers from the license (customer number, IIRC). He presumably ran these
numbers thru some kinda 'puter to make sure we had paid the proper vig
for the license and salmon stamp.

I guess the moral of the story is that the colored paper trick musta been
thought of......

Figures. The *******s are always one step ahead of me. :(

I know the marina......grew up in Kenosha. Haven't been down quite that
far in a while, but I've been paddling along much of the lakeshore from
near the state line to Manitowoc the last two years.

You are clearly a far more advanced paddler than I. Michelle and I toodle
around slow rivers and small lakes in our little kayaks, but I've never
attempted to get out in actual water. I have a feeling that would be an
entertaining experience -- after the defibrillator burns healed.


You should let me know when
you've got a free day some weekend. We can go out in kayaks and troll
along the shore.

Hmmmm.... would my little Dagger Zydeco suffice? (nine and a half footer)


There ARE fish to be caught that way. I was much surprised, at
first, to see quite a few trout and salmon while out paddling. It's not
my favorite way to fish either, but what the hell.....if I'm out there
anyway.

Makes sense.



Wolfgang
and thus begins yet another journey on the road to deportation to
canada. :(

"Curdistan", "Canuckistan" what's the difference? :-)

Gets cold up nort, eh? They got electricity yet?


I heard that new-fangled electricity reaches as far north as Houghton. Len
told me.

....indoor plumbing, on the other hand.... ;-)

Dan

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"Daniel-San" wrote in message
. net...

"Cyli" wrote om...
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 05:07:35 GMT, "Daniel-San"

...It's a wilderness....

...a man could die out there. It's at least a few miles to the nearest
pasty stand, no?...

Note to Mr. Miller: You would die out there. :)

Wolfgang

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harumph, indeed! ...best remember the donner dinner party. if there are
that many fools gathered about a pasty stand, i reckon one of em would
be an easy victim. plus, that rank mess has gotta draw some edible
animals. and, as i recall, there's usually an ice cream cooler, a
grocery store, beer, pick-up trucks, and ranitadine near every pasty
purveyor i've been around.

jeff

Wolfgang wrote:
"Daniel-San" wrote in message
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"Cyli" wrote om...

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 05:07:35 GMT, "Daniel-San"


...It's a wilderness....


...a man could die out there. It's at least a few miles to the nearest
pasty stand, no?...


Note to Mr. Miller: You would die out there. :)

Wolfgang

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"Daniel-San" wrote in message
et...

"Wolfgang" wrote...

I know the marina......grew up in Kenosha. Haven't been down quite that
far in a while, but I've been paddling along much of the lakeshore from
near the state line to Manitowoc the last two years.

You are clearly a far more advanced paddler than I.

I doubt it. I've doing this for a bit less than two years.

Michelle and I toodle around slow rivers and small lakes in our little
kayaks, but I've never attempted to get out in actual water. I have a
feeling that would be an entertaining experience -- after the
defibrillator burns healed.

Lake Michigan can be a little spooky the first time you get out in a decent
swell.......um.....well, more than just a "little" spooky, I guess. :)

You should let me know when
you've got a free day some weekend. We can go out in kayaks and troll
along the shore.

Hmmmm.... would my little Dagger Zydeco suffice? (nine and a half footer)

Perfect! I've got a 9.5' Perfection Sundance.....essentially the same boat.
Sea kayaks are the vehicle of choice for most people, and they're great for
cruising, but they're cramped, much harder to enter, launch and beach, and
not as versatile. They DO offer one great advantage.....which I'll get back
to in a moment.

I was pretty nervous the first time I went out and found out very quickly
that you MUST have a spray skirt out there. Unless there is a stiff breeze
the, surf zone, where the waves break close to shore, is your worst problem.
Both in launching and beaching you WILL ship water without the skirt. The
problem is that when a wave breaks the result is a mix of air and
water.....essentially a large mass of bubbles.....that won't float the boat.
As you sit on the beach, even a six inch high breaker will ride right over
the bow and into the cockpit. Same thing happens on the way back in....with
the added problem of the hydraulic surge pushing the stern to one side or
another if you don't stay perpendicular to its front (parallel to its path)
and rolling you over if it pushes you far enough around. No big deal as you
are necessarily in very shallow water, but you will get soaked and have to
drag your sorry ass out of the boat.....almost certainly in front of a large
and highly amused audience. Most of this is easily avoided with the spray
skirt and a little easy steering.

Of course, eveything gets much more potentially dangerous out on the open
water. The great DISadvantage of recreational boats is that if you dump,
you STAY dumped.....you can't roll yourself back up like you can in a
whitewater boat or a sea kayak.....its time to wade or swim. A mile from
shore this can be a real problem. Fortunately, the risk of dumping is much
lower than one might suppose. I've played in four to five foot waves in a
stiff breeze on a number of occasions (always within a couple hundred yards
of shore) and, after another initial bit of nervousness, never felt the
least bit of worry. I should add that I am emphatically NOT a close to the
edge thrill seeker! I highly recommend playing under such
conditions....it's a hoot and a half.....especially surfing back in on the
wave fronts! I've also been as much as two miles off shore....on VERY calm
and virtually windless days. Wasn't worried then either. However, and once
again, emphatically, I do NOT recommend this for a solo paddler. The
probability may be very low, but something CAN happen, and a two mile swim
in Lake Michigan without support immediately available is no joke under any
circumstances. Even with a PFD (Wisconsin law requires that you have one in
the boat......but not that you must wear it) its a bad situation to be in.

The thing that worries me most is wind. I was out on the south side of
Milwaukee once when a strong wind (maybe 20-25 mph) came up pretty quickly
out of the west. For those not familiar with the area, a look at a map
should reveal why this is a bad thing. I wasn't very far off shore and
wasn't particularly concerned about being able to get back in, although I
knew it would be a bit of work. But I made a mistake. I was on my way
toward the breakwater that surrounds much of the Milwaukee waterfront and
planned to skirt the inside of one of the jetties to circle around the back
side of the marina I started from, and decided to continue, thinking that
things would be better inside. Unfortunately, as I got closer to the jetty
I found that the break I was making for funneled the wind and changed its
direction so that I was heading directly in to it while traveling north. To
make matters considerably worse, there was a good sized swell coming in off
the lake, and now there was a conflicting set of waves coming off shore
because of the wind shift, and BOTH of them were also reflecting off the
jetty. I now had waves coming at me from every direction....and meeting
waves are additive. If two waves traveling in opposite directions meet they
will crest at a height equal to the sum of their individual heights. I
suddenly found myself among six to eight foot waves. By this time I was
starting to get pretty worried. Getting very tired, I nevertheless made it
around the end of the jetty only to discover that the full force of the wind
was now hitting me directly in the face. Enough. I paddled to the jetty
and bailed out....walked back to shore pulling the boat with the bow rope.

I've been much more closely attuned to wind since then.

There ARE fish to be caught that way. I was much surprised, at
first, to see quite a few trout and salmon while out paddling. It's not
my favorite way to fish either, but what the hell.....if I'm out there
anyway.

Makes sense.

Give it some thought. I promise that we won't get into a situation like the
one described above. :)

Wolfgang
and thus begins yet another journey on the road to deportation to
canada. :(

"Curdistan", "Canuckistan" what's the difference? :-)

Gets cold up nort, eh? They got electricity yet?


I heard that new-fangled electricity reaches as far north as Houghton. Len
told me.

...indoor plumbing, on the other hand.... ;-)

Still got gas lights and an outhouse at my friends' cabin near Painesville.

Wolfgang

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On 3/17/06 4:12 PM, in article , "Wolfgang"
wrote:

...indoor plumbing, on the other hand.... ;-)

Still got gas lights and an outhouse at my friends' cabin near Painesville.

Wonder if they ever ran the electric lights up at the place on R Lake... I
need to make a call in the near future, see if it looks likely I'll be able
to use it this year. Last I was up there, outhouse, pump water and
candles/lanterns. Wouldn't have it any other way!

B
(kinda nice to have the propane stove and 'fridge though. :-)

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"Wolfgang" wrote...

"Daniel-San" wrote...

"Wolfgang" wrote...

I know the marina......grew up in Kenosha. Haven't been down quite that
far in a while, but I've been paddling along much of the lakeshore from
near the state line to Manitowoc the last two years.

You are clearly a far more advanced paddler than I.

I doubt it. I've doing this for a bit less than two years.

Michelle and I toodle around slow rivers and small lakes in our little
kayaks, but I've never attempted to get out in actual water. I have a
feeling that would be an entertaining experience -- after the
defibrillator burns healed.

Lake Michigan can be a little spooky the first time you get out in a
decent swell.......um.....well, more than just a "little" spooky, I guess.
:)

You should let me know when
you've got a free day some weekend. We can go out in kayaks and troll
along the shore.

Hmmmm.... would my little Dagger Zydeco suffice? (nine and a half footer)

Perfect! I've got a 9.5' Perfection Sundance.....essentially the same
boat. Sea kayaks are the vehicle of choice for most people, and they're
great for cruising, but they're cramped, much harder to enter, launch and
beach, and not as versatile. They DO offer one great advantage.....which
I'll get back to in a moment.

Is the Sundance the new "Swifty"? Michelle loves her Swifty. As simple a
boat as could be designed, I think, plus, it's pretty darned stable for the
rec. paddler.



I was pretty nervous the first time I went out and found out very quickly
that you MUST have a spray skirt out there. Unless there is a stiff
breeze the, surf zone, where the waves break close to shore, is your worst
problem. Both in launching and beaching you WILL ship water without the
skirt. The problem is that when a wave breaks the result is a mix of air
and water.....essentially a large mass of bubbles.....that won't float the
boat. As you sit on the beach, even a six inch high breaker will ride
right over the bow and into the cockpit. Same thing happens on the way
back in....with the added problem of the hydraulic surge pushing the stern
to one side or another if you don't stay perpendicular to its front
(parallel to its path) and rolling you over if it pushes you far enough
around. No big deal as you are necessarily in very shallow water, but you
will get soaked and have to drag your sorry ass out of the boat.....almost
certainly in front of a large and highly amused audience.

Story of much of my outdoors-skills learning life. I think I should sell
tickets to the first couple times I do something outside. I be a friggin'
millionaire.



Most of this is easily avoided with the spray
skirt and a little easy steering.

Of course, eveything gets much more potentially dangerous out on the open
water. The great DISadvantage of recreational boats is that if you dump,
you STAY dumped.....you can't roll yourself back up like you can in a
whitewater boat or a sea kayak.....its time to wade or swim. A mile from
shore this can be a real problem. Fortunately, the risk of dumping is
much lower than one might suppose.

Maybe, but it's even lower on a small, placid lil' lake. Or mebbe on a
meandering river.....

I've played in four to five foot waves in a
stiff breeze on a number of occasions (always within a couple hundred
yards of shore) and, after another initial bit of nervousness, never felt
the least bit of worry. I should add that I am emphatically NOT a close
to the edge thrill seeker!

As someone who was at one point a thrill seeker (I've done some **** that
still scares me), I feel that four-to-five foot waves on Lake Michigan in a
small kayak is almost the definition of the edge.

Of course, I'm now a total wuss(*), so that could be coloring my judgement a
bit.


I highly recommend playing under such
conditions....it's a hoot and a half.....especially surfing back in on the
wave fronts!

This part does sound like a hoot -- after managing to get out there.

In a galaxy far, far, away, I was a lifeguard at a condo complex on
Chicago's "Gold Coast". We used to walk to the beach on really windy days
with those goofy closed-cell foam sheets the kids were playing on in the
pool. Made for one hell of a fun lunch hour -- body surfing. We'd come back
to work late, exhausted, and with road rash on our chests. I imagine it'd be
at least as fun in a kayak.


I've also been as much as two miles off shore....on VERY calm
and virtually windless days. Wasn't worried then either. However, and
once again, emphatically, I do NOT recommend this for a solo paddler. The
probability may be very low, but something CAN happen, and a two mile swim
in Lake Michigan without support immediately available is no joke under
any circumstances. Even with a PFD (Wisconsin law requires that you have
one in the boat......but not that you must wear it) its a bad situation to
be in.

I think the law is the same here in Illernoise, but I find that the wuss
factor is decreased a bit with that bad boy on and buckled. I've been out
10-20 (?) miles with pops and have seen guys soloing in really long sea
kayaks. To each his/her own, I guess, but to me, that's nuts.



The thing that worries me most is wind. I was out on the south side of
Milwaukee once when a strong wind (maybe 20-25 mph) came up pretty quickly
out of the west. For those not familiar with the area, a look at a map
should reveal why this is a bad thing. I wasn't very far off shore and
wasn't particularly concerned about being able to get back in, although I
knew it would be a bit of work. But I made a mistake. I was on my way
toward the breakwater that surrounds much of the Milwaukee waterfront and
planned to skirt the inside of one of the jetties to circle around the
back side of the marina I started from, and decided to continue, thinking
that things would be better inside. Unfortunately, as I got closer to the
jetty I found that the break I was making for funneled the wind and
changed its direction so that I was heading directly in to it while
traveling north. To make matters considerably worse, there was a good
sized swell coming in off the lake, and now there was a conflicting set of
waves coming off shore because of the wind shift, and BOTH of them were
also reflecting off the jetty. I now had waves coming at me from every
direction....and meeting waves are additive. If two waves traveling in
opposite directions meet they will crest at a height equal to the sum of
their individual heights. I suddenly found myself among six to eight foot
waves. By this time I was starting to get pretty worried. Getting very
tired, I nevertheless made it around the end of the jetty only to discover
that the full force of the wind was now hitting me directly in the face.
Enough. I paddled to the jetty and bailed out....walked back to shore
pulling the boat with the bow rope.

From the sound of it, you made a wise decision. In a (motorized) fishing
boat, those additive waves can get awfully interesting as you get closer to
the various breaks/jettys/harbor mouths. I imagine that in a kayak, it would
be downright terrifying.



I've been much more closely attuned to wind since then.

There ARE fish to be caught that way. I was much surprised, at
first, to see quite a few trout and salmon while out paddling. It's not
my favorite way to fish either, but what the hell.....if I'm out there
anyway.

Makes sense.

Give it some thought. I promise that we won't get into a situation like
the one described above. :)


Hmmmm... 'promise'? ;-)

Have to be later in the year -- we just bought a house and it's gonna be a
little nuts for a while.



Wolfgang
and thus begins yet another journey on the road to deportation to
canada. :(

"Curdistan", "Canuckistan" what's the difference? :-)

Gets cold up nort, eh? They got electricity yet?


I heard that new-fangled electricity reaches as far north as Houghton.
Len told me.

...indoor plumbing, on the other hand.... ;-)

Still got gas lights and an outhouse at my friends' cabin near
Painesville.

Sounds like a helluva good place.

Dan

(*) wuss brought about by witnessing/knowing of a few nasty climbing
accidents... one fatal.

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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...Perfection Sundance....

Oops! Should be "Perception".

Wolfgang

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"Jeff" wrote in message
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harumph, indeed! ...best remember the donner dinner party. if there are
that many fools gathered about a pasty stand, i reckon one of em would be
an easy victim. plus, that rank mess has gotta draw some edible animals.
and, as i recall, there's usually an ice cream cooler, a grocery store,
beer, pick-up trucks, and ranitadine near every pasty purveyor i've been
around.

THAT'S what we like! A man who can improvise and live off the land......as
he finds it. :)

Wolfgang
who, come september, is sticking close to jeff.....um.....but who will also
be careful not to turn his back when he gets that lean and hungry look.
:(

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"William Claspy" wrote in message
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On 3/17/06 4:12 PM, in article , "Wolfgang"
wrote:

...indoor plumbing, on the other hand.... ;-)

Still got gas lights and an outhouse at my friends' cabin near
Painesville.

Wonder if they ever ran the electric lights up at the place on R Lake... I
need to make a call in the near future, see if it looks likely I'll be
able
to use it this year. Last I was up there, outhouse, pump water and
candles/lanterns. Wouldn't have it any other way!

Amen.

B
(kinda nice to have the propane stove and 'fridge though. :-)

Got both of those at Fisher's. C'mon in and set a spell. :)

Wolfgang

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Is the Sundance the new "Swifty"? Michelle loves her Swifty. As simple a
boat as could be designed, I think, plus, it's pretty darned stable for
the rec. paddler.

Not sure, but I don't think so. I've looked at a few since I bought mine,
but haven't a good reason to pay much attention. I think the Swifty is a
cheaper, more bare bones model than mine. I looked up your Zydeco when you
asked if will do and it looks to be pretty nearly exactly like my Sundance.

...you will get soaked and have to drag your sorry ass out of the
boat.....almost certainly in front of a large and highly amused audience.

Story of much of my outdoors-skills learning life. I think I should sell
tickets to the first couple times I do something outside. I be a friggin'
millionaire.

Nah, you'd spend it all for tickets to watch me or the next dumbass do
exactly the same thing.

...Fortunately, the risk of dumping is much lower than one might suppose.

Maybe, but it's even lower on a small, placid lil' lake.

Be mindful of the conditions in which you go out and there is literally no
difference in the risk of dumping. Lake Michigan in repose is only more of
the same. Stay reasonably close to shore (and still mindful of those
conditions) and the consequences of dumping (which is the real issue) fall
as far within your parameters for acceptable risk as you wish to make them.

Or mebbe on a meandering river.....

Nope. Moving water is inherently MUCH more dangerous. Even the slowest of
meandering rivers is risky. Late last spring Becky, her brother, Jeff, and
I went out for a half day trip on the Fox from Waterford to Burlington.
About as tame a bit of river as anyone would ever want to see. Trying to
duck under a large branch near the right bank, Jeff decided at the last
second that he wasn't going to clear and grabbed a piece of the branch to
check himself. Big mistake. He stopped alright but, naturally, the boat
did not. It turned athwart the current and continued to move while he hung
on. By the time the boat had moved about four or five feet he was
horizontal with his head under water. His options were to hang on until he
drowned.....or let go and try something else. He chose wisely.
Unfortunately, the boat was now lodged upside down against another part of
the branch and the current was pushing him against the bottom. Happy ending
(well, mostly.....his cigars and cell phone were pretty waterlogged). He
managed to scramble out of the boat and walk to the bank. All this took
place in water about two feet deep and moving at maybe 1 mph. In retrospect
(as little as two minutes later) it was pretty funny. But people have died
under less trying circumstances.

I said moving water is more dangerous but, to be more precise, it's
horizontally moving water. There's a lot of vertical movement (waves or
swells) in the Great Lakes and the oceans but they really aren't very
dangerous.....EXCEPT!.....in the surf zone or where wind causes them to
break even in deep open water and then.....yep, you guessed it, it's the
horizontal vector of the motion that causes most of the problems.....that
kills.

I've played in four to five foot waves in a
stiff breeze on a number of occasions (always within a couple hundred
yards of shore) and, after another initial bit of nervousness, never felt
the least bit of worry. I should add that I am emphatically NOT a close
to the edge thrill seeker!

As someone who was at one point a thrill seeker (I've done some **** that
still scares me), I feel that four-to-five foot waves on Lake Michigan in
a small kayak is almost the definition of the edge.

It certainly LOOKS like it and, the first couple of times anyway, it FEELS
like it but in reality, it isn't. That's exactly why it's so much fun!

Of course, I'm now a total wuss(*), so that could be coloring my judgement
a bit.

There are a number of places on the lakeshore (both Kenosha and Racine come
immediately to mind) where there are beaches protected by breakwaters. Come
out with me to one of these places sometime and paddle in placid water to
your heart's content. In a short while you'll begin to look at those waves
out beyond the end of the breakwater and think......"Hm......." And
then......

And then your soul is MINE! :)

I highly recommend playing under such
conditions....it's a hoot and a half.....especially surfing back in on
the wave fronts!

This part does sound like a hoot -- after managing to get out there.

In a galaxy far, far, away, I was a lifeguard at a condo complex on
Chicago's "Gold Coast". We used to walk to the beach on really windy days
with those goofy closed-cell foam sheets the kids were playing on in the
pool. Made for one hell of a fun lunch hour -- body surfing. We'd come
back to work late, exhausted, and with road rash on our chests. I imagine
it'd be at least as fun in a kayak.

No rash. And you can carry your camera, phone, illicit (or soon to be)
substance of choice, etc.

...a PFD (Wisconsin law requires that you have
one in the boat......but not that you must wear it)....

I think the law is the same here in Illernoise, but I find that the wuss
factor is decreased a bit with that bad boy on and buckled.

It's never a bad idea to wear a PFD while in any small watercraft under any
circumstances. Candor compels me to say that I don't.....but that's just a
personal quirk.....my funeral, right? Anyone who derides you for it or
tells you not to .....under any circumstances.....is someone to
avoid.....under any circumstances.

I've been out 10-20 (?) miles with pops and have seen guys soloing in
really long sea kayaks. To each his/her own, I guess, but to me, that's
nuts.

It ain't as nuts as touch football......or riding a bicycle on a city street
(or ANY street......or off road, for that matter), and it's nowhere NEAR as
nuts as riding a horse!

...I paddled to the jetty and bailed out....walked back to shore pulling
the boat with the bow rope.

From the sound of it, you made a wise decision.

Note that I assumed you were referring to the decision to bail......not the
earlier one. :)

In a (motorized) fishing boat, those additive waves can get awfully
interesting as you get closer to the various breaks/jettys/harbor mouths.
I imagine that in a kayak, it would be downright terrifying.

Mmmmmm.....not QUITE terrifying, but close kin.......real close.

Give it some thought. I promise that we won't get into a situation like
the one described above. :)


Hmmmm... 'promise'? ;-)

Oh, hell yes! I mean, I can always say, "Nah, I didn' know da guy. I just
seen him out on da lake dere an' I sez, HEY what da hell you doin' out
dere?.....an' bloop, he was gone".....right? :)

Have to be later in the year -- we just bought a house and it's gonna be a
little nuts for a while.

Mid June through October is good. You know where to find me.

Still got gas lights and an outhouse at my friends' cabin near
Painesville.

Sounds like a helluva good place.

A little slice of heaven.

Dan

(*) wuss brought about by witnessing/knowing of a few nasty climbing
accidents... one fatal.

Climbing (I've done a bit myself) is like most things.....you want to go
start with somebody who has made the mistakes, learned the lessons, knows
how to relay the information. Belaying (and the attendant setting of
anchors, etc.), on the other hand, is one of those very important exceptions
to the rule. The guy who has made the mistakes?......well, how do you feel
about the plague? :(

Wolfgang

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trampled parks and tourist destinations where visitors are made to feel
like dollar signs, don't you think it's time to experience Paradise?


The Yooper version of how Michigan Was created:
In da beginning dere was nuttin'.
Den on da first day God created da Upper Peninsula.
On da second day, He created da partridge, da deer, da bear, da fish and da ducks.
On da third day He said, let dere be Yoopers to roam da Upper Peninsula.
On da fourth day He created da udder world down below.
On da fifth day He said "Let dere be trolls to live in da world down below".
On da sixth day He created da bridge so da trolls would have a way to get to heaven.
God saw it, and it was good and on da seventh day He went huntin'.

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If you're planning a vacation that involves getting close to nature,
Paradise is the very definition of wilderness. Being neighborly is a
way of life for Paradisians, so if you've been disillusioned by
trampled parks and tourist destinations where visitors are made to feel
like dollar signs, don't you think it's time to experience Paradise?


The Yooper version of how Michigan Was created:
In da beginning dere was nuttin'.
Den on da first day God created da Upper Peninsula.
On da second day, He created da partridge, da deer, da bear, da fish and da ducks.
On da third day He said, let dere be Yoopers to roam da Upper Peninsula.
On da fourth day He created da udder world down below.
On da fifth day He said "Let dere be trolls to live in da world down below".
On da sixth day He created da bridge so da trolls would have a way to get to heaven.
God saw it, and it was good and on da seventh day He went huntin'.

And God's name is Len McDougall........ http://www.pastypower.com/

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Press Release

INFOMERCIAL snipped

If you're planning a vacation that involves getting close to nature,
Paradise is the very definition of wilderness. Being neighborly is a
way of life for Paradisians, so if you've been disillusioned by
trampled parks and tourist destinations where visitors are made to feel
like dollar signs, don't you think it's time to experience Paradise?


The Yooper version of how Michigan Was created:
In da beginning dere was nuttin'.
Den on da first day God created da Upper Peninsula.
On da second day, He created da partridge, da deer, da bear, da fish and da ducks.
On da third day He said, let dere be Yoopers to roam da Upper Peninsula.
On da fourth day He created da udder world down below.
On da fifth day He said "Let dere be trolls to live in da world down below".
On da sixth day He created da bridge so da trolls would have a way to get to heaven.
God saw it, and it was good and on da seventh day He went huntin'.

And God's name is Len McDougall........ http://www.pastypower.com/

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If you're planning a vacation that involves getting close to nature,
Paradise is the very definition of wilderness. Being neighborly is a
way of life for Paradisians, so if you've been disillusioned by
trampled parks and tourist destinations where visitors are made to feel
like dollar signs, don't you think it's time to experience Paradise?


The Yooper version of how Michigan Was created:
In da beginning dere was nuttin'.
Den on da first day God created da Upper Peninsula.
On da second day, He created da partridge, da deer, da bear, da fish and da ducks.
On da third day He said, let dere be Yoopers to roam da Upper Peninsula.
On da fourth day He created da udder world down below.
On da fifth day He said "Let dere be trolls to live in da world down below".
On da sixth day He created da bridge so da trolls would have a way to get to heaven.
God saw it, and it was good and on da seventh day He went huntin'.

And God's name is Len McDougall........ http://www.pastypower.com/

Press Release: Paradise, MI: Wolves, Moose, Incredible Vacations
 

"Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer" wrote in message oups.com...
Press Release

INFOMERCIAL snipped

If you're planning a vacation that involves getting close to nature,
Paradise is the very definition of wilderness. Being neighborly is a
way of life for Paradisians, so if you've been disillusioned by
trampled parks and tourist destinations where visitors are made to feel
like dollar signs, don't you think it's time to experience Paradise?


The Yooper version of how Michigan Was created:
In da beginning dere was nuttin'.
Den on da first day God created da Upper Peninsula.
On da second day, He created da partridge, da deer, da bear, da fish and da ducks.
On da third day He said, let dere be Yoopers to roam da Upper Peninsula.
On da fourth day He created da udder world down below.
On da fifth day He said "Let dere be trolls to live in da world down below".
On da sixth day He created da bridge so da trolls would have a way to get to heaven.
God saw it, and it was good and on da seventh day He went huntin'.

And God's name is Len McDougall........ http://www.pastypower.com/ http://www.pastypower.com/2005trenary/index.html

Press Release: Paradise, MI: Wolves, Moose, Incredible Vacations
 

Deja vu, all over again.
And again
And again...

--riverman
and in HTML to boot.