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rw April 23rd, 2006 02:45 AM

five-point political agenda
 
Tell the truth.

Fire the incompetents.

Find Osama bin Laden and secure our ports and our homeland.

Bring our troops home from Iraq.

Obey the law and protect our civil rights.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Mr. Opus McDopus April 23rd, 2006 03:37 PM

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"rw" wrote in message
...
Tell the truth.

Fire the incompetents.

Find Osama bin Laden and secure our ports and our homeland.

Bring our troops home from Iraq.

Obey the law and protect our civil rights.


So, are you runnin' as a Dem, Rep., or a Communist?

Op



Dave LaCourse April 23rd, 2006 03:50 PM

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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 10:37:55 -0400, "Mr. Opus McDopus"
wrote:


"rw" wrote in message
m...
Tell the truth.

Fire the incompetents.

Find Osama bin Laden and secure our ports and our homeland.

Bring our troops home from Iraq.

Obey the law and protect our civil rights.


So, are you runnin' as a Dem, Rep., or a Communist?

Op


None of the above, Mark. He's running under the People United Towards
Zealousness party, aka PUTZ party. He's the chief Putzer.




riverman April 23rd, 2006 04:43 PM

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"rw" wrote


Find Osama bin Laden and secure our ports and our homeland.


Does it not bother anyone else that this is really three things?


--riverman



Mr. Opus McDopus April 23rd, 2006 04:48 PM

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"riverman" wrote in message ...


"rw" wrote


Find Osama bin Laden and secure our ports and our homeland.


Does it not bother anyone else that this is really three things?


--riverman



What did you expect from a neophyte politician?

Op



rw April 23rd, 2006 05:02 PM

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Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
...

Tell the truth.

Fire the incompetents.

Find Osama bin Laden and secure our ports and our homeland.

Bring our troops home from Iraq.

Obey the law and protect our civil rights.



So, are you runnin' as a Dem, Rep., or a Communist?


I'm not running for anything, but I'm supporting the Democrats. It's
critically important that they win the House of Representatives and/or
the Senate so that they have subpoena power to investigate the corrupt
gang of crooks and liars who have been flushing our country down the
toilet for the past six years.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw April 23rd, 2006 05:22 PM

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 10:37:55 -0400, "Mr. Opus McDopus"
wrote:


"rw" wrote in message
om...

Tell the truth.


So, are you runnin' as a Dem, Rep., or a Communist?

Op



None of the above, Mark. He's running under the People United Towards
Zealousness party, aka PUTZ party. He's the chief Putzer.


I can understand why you have a problem with telling the truth.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

BJ Conner April 23rd, 2006 05:52 PM

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 10:37:55 -0400, "Mr. Opus McDopus"
wrote:


"rw" wrote in message
m...
Tell the truth.

Fire the incompetents.

Find Osama bin Laden and secure our ports and our homeland.

Bring our troops home from Iraq.

Obey the law and protect our civil rights.


So, are you runnin' as a Dem, Rep., or a Communist?

Op


None of the above, Mark. He's running under the People United Towards
Zealousness party, aka PUTZ party. He's the chief Putzer.


He's gotta run as something and he sure as hell couldn't run as a
republican with those values.


asadi April 23rd, 2006 11:36 PM

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You forgot about the invasion....

john

"rw" wrote in message
...
Tell the truth.

Fire the incompetents.

Find Osama bin Laden and secure our ports and our homeland.

Bring our troops home from Iraq.

Obey the law and protect our civil rights.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.




rw April 23rd, 2006 11:49 PM

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asadi wrote:
You forgot about the invasion....


Which one?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Mark F. April 24th, 2006 12:19 AM

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We got what we deserve for voting for the guy. We did this to our self's.


"rw" wrote in message
m...
Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
...

Tell the truth.

Fire the incompetents.

Find Osama bin Laden and secure our ports and our homeland.

Bring our troops home from Iraq.

Obey the law and protect our civil rights.



So, are you runnin' as a Dem, Rep., or a Communist?


I'm not running for anything, but I'm supporting the Democrats. It's
critically important that they win the House of Representatives and/or the
Senate so that they have subpoena power to investigate the corrupt gang of
crooks and liars who have been flushing our country down the toilet for
the past six years.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.




rb608 April 24th, 2006 01:13 AM

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"Mark F." wrote in message ...
We got what we deserve for voting for the guy. We did this to our self's.


What's with that "we" ****? I'm pretty damned sure "we" didn't vote for him
but our Diebold machines here don't have a paper trail, so I can't be 100%
certain.

Joe F.



daytripper April 24th, 2006 01:13 AM

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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 23:19:25 GMT, "Mark F." wrote:

"rw" wrote in message
om...
Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
...

Tell the truth.

Fire the incompetents.

Find Osama bin Laden and secure our ports and our homeland.

Bring our troops home from Iraq.

Obey the law and protect our civil rights.


So, are you runnin' as a Dem, Rep., or a Communist?


I'm not running for anything, but I'm supporting the Democrats. It's
critically important that they win the House of Representatives and/or the
Senate so that they have subpoena power to investigate the corrupt gang of
crooks and liars who have been flushing our country down the toilet for
the past six years.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


We got what we deserve for voting for the guy. We did this to our self's.


Whadaya mean "we", Kimosabe?

/daytripper (Cheer up. It's all going to plan...)

rw April 24th, 2006 03:03 AM

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daytripper wrote:

Whadaya mean "we", Kimosabe?


You didn't vote for him, and I didn't, but Mark F. has a point.

What could have persuaded people to vote for this transparently
loathsome creep? And what's with the thirty-something percent who still
approve of what he's done? What planet are they living on?

Something is very wrong with this country.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Tim J. April 24th, 2006 03:29 AM

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rw wrote:
What could have persuaded people to vote for this transparently
loathsome creep?


The other two even more transparently loathsome creeps? Just a guess. .
..
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/



asadi April 24th, 2006 03:32 AM

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
asadi wrote:
You forgot about the invasion....


Which one?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address


I wanted to chuckle but I will say, you know, about our soil and borders and
such....
john.



Dave LaCourse April 24th, 2006 03:53 AM

five-point political agenda
 
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:03:07 -0600, rw
wrote:

You didn't vote for him, and I didn't, but Mark F. has a point.

What could have persuaded people to vote for this transparently
loathsome creep? And what's with the thirty-something percent who still
approve of what he's done? What planet are they living on?

Something is very wrong with this country.


We've been over this before. And you know the answer; as long as the
Democrat Party puts forth a candidate like Kerry, or Gore, the
Republicans, or the Greens, or the Independents will win the WH.
Hell, that was easy.





riverman April 24th, 2006 10:11 AM

five-point political agenda
 

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:03:07 -0600, rw
wrote:

You didn't vote for him, and I didn't, but Mark F. has a point.

What could have persuaded people to vote for this transparently
loathsome creep? And what's with the thirty-something percent who still
approve of what he's done? What planet are they living on?

Something is very wrong with this country.


We've been over this before. And you know the answer; as long as the
Democrat Party puts forth a candidate like Kerry, or Gore, the
Republicans, or the Greens, or the Independents will win the WH.
Hell, that was easy.



It continues to amaze me how many people still think 'a candidate like
Kerry' is less preferable to 'a president like Bush'. I'd take NIXON over
Bush.

--riverman



Stan Gula April 24th, 2006 12:25 PM

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riverman wrote:
I'd take NIXON over Bush.


I'd take 6 feet of dirt over Bush.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps



Jeff Miller April 24th, 2006 12:30 PM

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rw wrote:

daytripper wrote:


Whadaya mean "we", Kimosabe?



You didn't vote for him, and I didn't, but Mark F. has a point.

What could have persuaded people to vote for this transparently
loathsome creep? And what's with the thirty-something percent who still
approve of what he's done? What planet are they living on?

Something is very wrong with this country.


as is quite apparent in this little corner of america, most humans are
very, very defensive when challenged about their choices or decisions -
even those demonstrably wrong. frankly, given this oddity of human
nature, i'm a bit surprised the percentage is that low. of course, it's
still most of those who have consistently expressed approval, isn't it?

during the last run-up to national elections, on occasions, i
intentionally argued with an old retired fella from pennsylvania who
regularly came to the bar that my fishing crowd attends every wednesday
after work. we argued about his announced decision to vote for the
shrub. he couldn't articulate a single rational independent reason to
vote for bush (did mouth some of the rove-ian election slogans and
mantras), but primarily he felt gore was going to raise his taxes. i
tried to suggest how bush's decisions were going to increase his cost of
living and ultimately affect him more than any democrat's decision about
raising taxes...couldn't pierce the armor of his individual decision.
soon after the elections, he quit talking much with me, and for the last
6 months, he's sat at the opposite end of the bar obviously avoiding
conversations. however, i noticed that instead of his usual order of the
higher-priced bottled beer, he now orders the cheap pitcher of nasty
draft beer that's on sale. he won't admit his error, & will find a way
to justify it, but i suspect he regrets something about his vote. he
might simply regret having ever sat near me.

in matters of politics, as well as other issues in life, most people
simply find reasons go on believing what they already believe rather
than confront their errors and chart a new course.

jeff

Jeff Miller April 24th, 2006 12:42 PM

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uh, i brain-farted... *gore* should be *kerry*...the gore argument was
with my friend lane at the same bar 4 years earlier.

jeff (it's monday morning g...and, yes, i note the irony)


Jeff Miller wrote:

rw wrote:

daytripper wrote:


Whadaya mean "we", Kimosabe?




You didn't vote for him, and I didn't, but Mark F. has a point.

What could have persuaded people to vote for this transparently
loathsome creep? And what's with the thirty-something percent who
still approve of what he's done? What planet are they living on?

Something is very wrong with this country.


as is quite apparent in this little corner of america, most humans are
very, very defensive when challenged about their choices or decisions -
even those demonstrably wrong. frankly, given this oddity of human
nature, i'm a bit surprised the percentage is that low. of course, it's
still most of those who have consistently expressed approval, isn't it?

during the last run-up to national elections, on occasions, i
intentionally argued with an old retired fella from pennsylvania who
regularly came to the bar that my fishing crowd attends every wednesday
after work. we argued about his announced decision to vote for the
shrub. he couldn't articulate a single rational independent reason to
vote for bush (did mouth some of the rove-ian election slogans and
mantras), but primarily he felt **gore** was going to raise his taxes. i
tried to suggest how bush's decisions were going to increase his cost of
living and ultimately affect him more than any democrat's decision about
raising taxes...couldn't pierce the armor of his individual decision.
soon after the elections, he quit talking much with me, and for the last
6 months, he's sat at the opposite end of the bar obviously avoiding
conversations. however, i noticed that instead of his usual order of the
higher-priced bottled beer, he now orders the cheap pitcher of nasty
draft beer that's on sale. he won't admit his error, & will find a way
to justify it, but i suspect he regrets something about his vote. he
might simply regret having ever sat near me.

in matters of politics, as well as other issues in life, most people
simply find reasons go on believing what they already believe rather
than confront their errors and chart a new course.

jeff


Tim J. April 24th, 2006 01:03 PM

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Stan Gula typed:
riverman wrote:
I'd take NIXON over Bush.


I'd take 6 feet of dirt over Bush.


Now THAT'S funny!
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



riverman April 24th, 2006 02:18 PM

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"Tim J." wrote in message
...
Stan Gula typed:
riverman wrote:
I'd take NIXON over Bush.


I'd take 6 feet of dirt over Bush.


Now THAT'S funny!
--


Hopefully.

--riverman



rw April 24th, 2006 07:30 PM

five-point political agenda
 
Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:03:07 -0600, rw
wrote:


You didn't vote for him, and I didn't, but Mark F. has a point.

What could have persuaded people to vote for this transparently
loathsome creep? And what's with the thirty-something percent who still
approve of what he's done? What planet are they living on?

Something is very wrong with this country.



We've been over this before. And you know the answer; as long as the
Democrat Party puts forth a candidate like Kerry, or Gore, the
Republicans, or the Greens, or the Independents will win the WH.
Hell, that was easy.


Who do you think would win if the election were held today?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

David Snedeker April 24th, 2006 07:56 PM

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"Tim J." wrote in message
. ..
rw wrote:
What could have persuaded people to vote for this transparently
loathsome creep?


The other two even more transparently loathsome creeps? Just a guess. .
.
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------


No. Near as I can figure many of the Bush voters like to play dress-up. So
when Bush staged the landing on the carrier, after having the carrier turn
so the camera shots were seaward, and did the costume change to the leather
jacket, it spoke directly to that part of the pocket-poolsters that prefer
dress-up to real life people with real life experiences like Kerry and Max
Cleland.

Some feel that it was a mistake for Kerry not to target ads with Kerry
dressed like Jesus' brother, directed to that segment of the population. Or
maybe to have dressed-up like a cowboy or a fireman. Focus groups tested
post election showed that nearly 40% of male Bush voters would have been
twice as likely to have voted Democratic if Kerry had dressed up as a
pirate, been coached to speak a little NASCAR, or hosted a campaign summit
meeting with a snake handler church.

Dave



Dave LaCourse April 24th, 2006 08:07 PM

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:30:11 -0600, rw
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:03:07 -0600, rw
wrote:


You didn't vote for him, and I didn't, but Mark F. has a point.

What could have persuaded people to vote for this transparently
loathsome creep? And what's with the thirty-something percent who still
approve of what he's done? What planet are they living on?

Something is very wrong with this country.



We've been over this before. And you know the answer; as long as the
Democrat Party puts forth a candidate like Kerry, or Gore, the
Republicans, or the Greens, or the Independents will win the WH.
Hell, that was easy.


Who do you think would win if the election were held today?


Kerry had no new ideas. Period. He said he would remain in Iraq and
Afghanistan. The only difference is that we would now have more
taxes. It would be worse today if Kerry was in office.

The economy is going along great with no unemployment, low interest
rates, and low inflation. The market is doing well. No one has
invaded us since 9/11.

I don't know about you, but I am far better off today than I was eight
years ago, and much safer too.

Gas prices are high, but they are high worldwide. Get the Dems to
allow drilling off of California and Alaska and the price of gas would
go down. Take away the last fed gas tax ($.50/gallon) voted in by Al
Gore when the Senate was dead-locked at 50/50, and your gas would be
alot cheaper. I don't know about your math, but that would be $12
less a tank where I buy gas. Ya think those folks at WM you are so
concerned about could find something to do with that $12?

If the Dems win in 08, and I hope they do, you will see the tax cuts
cancelled and new taxes across the board. Inflation will go up (and
that is the worse tax for someone on a fixed income - read poor folks)
and the economy will crumble. But fear not. You'll blame that on
Bush.

If you continue to run bozos like Kerry and Gore, you will *never* win
the WH. And if by chance they *do* win, God help us.

Dave





[email protected] April 24th, 2006 08:08 PM

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:30:11 -0600, rw
wrote:

Who do you think would win if the election were held today?


McCain-Gephardt. Or, if you perfer, Gephardt-McCain (although
McCain-Gephardt would probably do better than the other way around).

If Kerry had won, I'd offer that things would be a whole lot worse for
and in the US overall. I'd also remind you that Clinton saw his
approval rating in the mid-to-low 30s - and his highest, the mid 60s,
came in the same year, whereas Bush has seen his in the mid 80s.

HTH,
R

Ken Fortenberry April 24th, 2006 08:56 PM

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David Snedeker wrote:

... Focus groups tested
post election showed that nearly 40% of male Bush voters would have been
twice as likely to have voted Democratic if Kerry had dressed up as a
pirate, been coached to speak a little NASCAR, or hosted a campaign summit
meeting with a snake handler church.


SPLORK

Too funny.

I must be feeling better, I can laugh again.

Got a letter in the mail today from the state of Illinois
that said my daughter is deceased but I can appeal the
decision. I had to laugh.

--
Ken Fortenberry

rw April 24th, 2006 09:20 PM

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Dave LaCourse wrote:

Kerry had no new ideas. Period. He said he would remain in Iraq and
Afghanistan. The only difference is that we would now have more
taxes. It would be worse today if Kerry was in office.

The economy is going along great with no unemployment, low interest
rates, and low inflation. The market is doing well. No one has
invaded us since 9/11.

I don't know about you, but I am far better off today than I was eight
years ago, and much safer too.


People at the top of the economic ladder are doing well (the fat-*******
CEO of Exxon just got a $400M retirement benefit), but the middle class
is hurting. Real wages have fallen since 2000, even through productivity
is up:

http://economistsview.typepad.com/ec...g_real_wa.html

That's why the polls show strong disapproval of the Bush
administration's handling of the economy. The benefits of the economic
growth are going to the very wealthy.

Gas prices are high, but they are high worldwide. Get the Dems to
allow drilling off of California and Alaska


How about Florida? Jeb doesn't like that idea.

and the price of gas would
go down. Take away the last fed gas tax ($.50/gallon) voted in by Al
Gore when the Senate was dead-locked at 50/50, and your gas would be
alot cheaper. I don't know about your math, but that would be $12
less a tank where I buy gas. Ya think those folks at WM you are so
concerned about could find something to do with that $12?


I support a steep INCREASE in the gasoline tax, with the revenue going
to support research and development in alternative fuels. Brazil, of all
places, is on the verge of energy independence because they've invested
in renewable fuel sources. If they can do it, so can we.

If the Dems win in 08, and I hope they do, you will see the tax cuts
cancelled and new taxes across the board. Inflation will go up (and
that is the worse tax for someone on a fixed income - read poor folks)
and the economy will crumble. But fear not. You'll blame that on
Bush.


That sounds exactly like what the wingnuts were saying when Clinton was
elected in 1992 and he raised taxes. The actual result, as we now know,
was eight years of nearly zero inflation, the largest economic expansion
in history, and budget surpluses.

I support an increase in the income tax rates, and specifically a
roll-back of the Bush tax cuts that went overwhelmingly to the wealthy.
I believe that we should balance the federal budget and not finance huge
debt by borrowing from the Chinese, among others. I believe we have to
start living within our means and stop pushing the ruinous consequences
of lavish spending on to our children.


If you continue to run bozos like Kerry and Gore, you will *never* win
the WH.


I'd like to remind you that Gore WON the popular vote in 2000, and the
vote in 2004 was Bush 50.7%, Kerry 48.3% -- a very close election. A few
thousand votes in Ohio would have given Kerry the electoral-vote win.
(And BTW, when are we going to fix this stupid, antiquated electoral
college system?)

And if by chance they *do* win, God help us.


You just wrote above that you HOPE the Democrats win in 2008. Why do you
hate America?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw April 24th, 2006 09:23 PM

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David Snedeker wrote:
"Tim J." wrote in message
. ..

rw wrote:

What could have persuaded people to vote for this transparently
loathsome creep?


The other two even more transparently loathsome creeps? Just a guess. .
.
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------



No. Near as I can figure many of the Bush voters like to play dress-up. So
when Bush staged the landing on the carrier, after having the carrier turn
so the camera shots were seaward, and did the costume change to the leather
jacket, it spoke directly to that part of the pocket-poolsters that prefer
dress-up to real life people with real life experiences like Kerry and Max
Cleland.


I have to believe that the people who still approve of Bush, despite the
abundant evidence of his bumbling incompetence and mendacity, are the
people who wouldn't mind if he ate their children.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Dave LaCourse April 24th, 2006 09:42 PM

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:56:12 -0700, "David Snedeker"
wrote:

Bush voters would have been
twice as likely to have voted Democratic if Kerry had dressed up as a
pirate, been coached to speak a little NASCAR, or hosted a campaign summit
meeting with a snake handler church.


That is plain bull****, David. Do you remember when he said, "Can I
get me a huntin' license here?" The entire nation laughed at him for
dumbing down and acting like some kind of hillbilly hick. He is what
he is and most folks saw that. Do you think Al Gore hiring someone to
make him look more "macho" and changed his wardrobe to earth tones
helped? He is what he is.

Dave





Dave LaCourse April 24th, 2006 09:43 PM

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:23:34 -0600, rw
wrote:

I have to believe that the people who still approve of Bush, despite the
abundant evidence of his bumbling incompetence and mendacity, are the
people who wouldn't mind if he ate their children.


You are such a stupid person. Downright stupid!



Danl April 24th, 2006 09:44 PM

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...



[snip]

Gas prices are high, but they are high worldwide. Get the Dems to
allow drilling off of California and Alaska and the price of gas would
go down. Take away the last fed gas tax ($.50/gallon) voted in by Al
Gore when the Senate was dead-locked at 50/50, and your gas would be
alot cheaper. I don't know about your math, but that would be $12
less a tank where I buy gas. Ya think those folks at WM you are so
concerned about could find something to do with that $12?


Hmmmm....if you're paying .50/gallon or more Federal gas tax, you must be
special. The latest figures I can find have the fed gas tax at .184/gallon.
What did I miss, Dave? When did Al Gore increase the Fed gas tax by fifty
cents a gallon?

I don't know about your math and ....errr...I don't think you do either
BSEG



http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp


http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1054.html

Danl



Dave LaCourse April 24th, 2006 10:01 PM

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:20:40 -0600, rw
wrote:

I support a steep INCREASE in the gasoline tax, with the revenue going
to support research and development in alternative fuels. Brazil, of all
places, is on the verge of energy independence because they've invested
in renewable fuel sources. If they can do it, so can we.


Have you ever been to Brazil, cowboy? It ain't all it's cracked up to
be. They use alchohol for fuel, yes, but you can't breathe the air.
Rio and San Paulo both have so much foul air that it makes your throat
hurt and your eyes water and sting. Besides, there ain't enough corn
in all of the earth to keep us going.


If the Dems win in 08, and I hope they do, you will see the tax cuts
cancelled and new taxes across the board. Inflation will go up (and
that is the worse tax for someone on a fixed income - read poor folks)
and the economy will crumble. But fear not. You'll blame that on
Bush.


That sounds exactly like what the wingnuts were saying when Clinton was
elected in 1992 and he raised taxes. The actual result, as we now know,
was eight years of nearly zero inflation, the largest economic expansion
in history, and budget surpluses.

I support an increase in the income tax rates, and specifically a
roll-back of the Bush tax cuts that went overwhelmingly to the wealthy.
I believe that we should balance the federal budget and not finance huge
debt by borrowing from the Chinese, among others. I believe we have to
start living within our means and stop pushing the ruinous consequences
of lavish spending on to our children.


If you continue to run bozos like Kerry and Gore, you will *never* win
the WH.


I'd like to remind you that Gore WON the popular vote in 2000, and the
vote in 2004 was Bush 50.7%, Kerry 48.3% -- a very close election. A few
thousand votes in Ohio would have given Kerry the electoral-vote win.
(And BTW, when are we going to fix this stupid, antiquated electoral
college system?)

And if by chance they *do* win, God help us.


You just wrote above that you HOPE the Democrats win in 2008. Why do you
hate America?


LOL. I hate YOUR part of America. America will survive regarless who
is in office, but it will be such fun to watch the dems destroy a good
economy that started way back with Reagan and has lasted all these
years with a dip or two along the way. I remember the Carter years
(made a helluva lot of money in the money market btw), and I don't
want to return to those days.

You can say what you want to about Bush and I would probably agree
with much of it, but he is an attack dog, and that is what we need,
not a French Poodle like Kerry. Who don't need anyone who will govern
by consensus. You and others in this nuthouse have said that the
American voter is a fool and idiot. Well, guess what? They are the
ones who would be the consensus.

BTW, the Electoral College has worked for more than 200 years. If the
shoe was on the other foot, YOU would be defending it. d;o)





Ken Fortenberry April 24th, 2006 10:01 PM

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
"David Snedeker" wrote:
Bush voters would have been
twice as likely to have voted Democratic if Kerry had dressed up as a
pirate, been coached to speak a little NASCAR, or hosted a campaign summit
meeting with a snake handler church.


That is plain bull****, David. ...


sheesh It was a *joke*, Louie. And a pretty funny one too.
"Speak a little NASCAR", LOL !!

Answer me this about male Bush voters. If you see a pick up
truck sporting both a rebel flag and political stickers what
percentage of the political stickers will be Bush stickers ?

That's right, one hundred percent Bush. And that's *not* a
joke.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Tim J. April 24th, 2006 10:02 PM

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Danl typed:
"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...

[snip]

Gas prices are high, but they are high worldwide. Get the Dems to
allow drilling off of California and Alaska and the price of gas
would go down. Take away the last fed gas tax ($.50/gallon) voted
in by Al Gore when the Senate was dead-locked at 50/50, and your gas
would be alot cheaper. I don't know about your math, but that would
be $12 less a tank where I buy gas. Ya think those folks at WM you
are so concerned about could find something to do with that $12?


Hmmmm....if you're paying .50/gallon or more Federal gas tax, you
must be special. The latest figures I can find have the fed gas tax
at .184/gallon. What did I miss, Dave? When did Al Gore increase the
Fed gas tax by fifty cents a gallon?

I don't know about your math and ....errr...I don't think you do
either BSEG

http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1054.html


Yeah, I didn't quite understand that math either. In most states, the state
tax exceeds the fed.

http://tinyurl.com/r4pce

Add the two together and you get close to that $.50 figure.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Benjamin Turek April 24th, 2006 10:03 PM

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I believe that the average tax amount across the U.S. is like $0.43, but
most of this is state taxes, and like you said only 0.02 federal.



Dave LaCourse April 24th, 2006 10:03 PM

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:18:38 +0800, "riverman"
wrote:

Hopefully.


Hopefully it is funny, or hopefully you wish Bush was dead? You can't
*possibly* hate *anyone* that much, can you?




rw April 24th, 2006 10:09 PM

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Danl wrote:
"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...



[snip]


Gas prices are high, but they are high worldwide. Get the Dems to
allow drilling off of California and Alaska and the price of gas would
go down. Take away the last fed gas tax ($.50/gallon) voted in by Al
Gore when the Senate was dead-locked at 50/50, and your gas would be
alot cheaper. I don't know about your math, but that would be $12
less a tank where I buy gas. Ya think those folks at WM you are so
concerned about could find something to do with that $12?



Hmmmm....if you're paying .50/gallon or more Federal gas tax, you must be
special. The latest figures I can find have the fed gas tax at .184/gallon.
What did I miss, Dave? When did Al Gore increase the Fed gas tax by fifty
cents a gallon?

I don't know about your math and ....errr...I don't think you do either
BSEG



http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp


http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1054.html


Dave isn't part of the reality-based community. He believes whatever he
hears from Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, and O'Reilly.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Tom Littleton April 24th, 2006 10:22 PM

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
Have you ever been to Brazil, cowboy? It ain't all it's cracked up to
be. They use alchohol for fuel, yes, but you can't breathe the air.
Rio and San Paulo both have so much foul air that it makes your throat
hurt and your eyes water and sting. Besides, there ain't enough corn
in all of the earth to keep us going.



first, how recent is your information on Brazil?? If not in the past decade,
it is completely impertinent to the discussion. Second, all ethanol need not
come from corn
(and, yes, there is a hell of a lot of it,but maybe not enough), sugar cane
comes to mind at the top of a list of a few hundred products which can be
distilled to produce it.
Tom




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