Gullet Hooked
 

Background...

I fish a local pond fairly regularly. It has a very high level of toxic
metals and other contaminants left behind from tanneries and mills.

I have caught numerous bass and pickerel with lesions and sores.

NOTHING CAN BE EATEN.

This spring I seem to be deep hooking more fish than normal. Usually I am
able to lip hook 85-90% of the time.

Anyway. What should ethically be done with an inedible fish that has been
gullet hooked?

I clipped the line on two yesterday and left the hook in the fish and
released 'em. With the quality of hook materials I doubt they just melt away
like the old wives tale tells us.

Today I tried surgery on one. The patient was alive when I got the hook out
but bleeding badly. I watched her struggle and die.

Any ideas????

I already crimp the barbs when I fish this pond.

Gullet Hooked
 

"Alaskan420" wrote in message
news:sQqhg.4986$LN1.3027@trndny01...
Background...

I fish a local pond fairly regularly. It has a very high level of toxic
metals and other contaminants left behind from tanneries and mills.

I have caught numerous bass and pickerel with lesions and sores.

NOTHING CAN BE EATEN.

This spring I seem to be deep hooking more fish than normal. Usually I am
able to lip hook 85-90% of the time.

Anyway. What should ethically be done with an inedible fish that has been
gullet hooked?

I clipped the line on two yesterday and left the hook in the fish and
released 'em. With the quality of hook materials I doubt they just melt
away
like the old wives tale tells us.

Today I tried surgery on one. The patient was alive when I got the hook
out
but bleeding badly. I watched her struggle and die.

Any ideas????

I already crimp the barbs when I fish this pond.

I wish I had an easy answer. Here's something you can read that might help
you out.

http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/modu... der=0&thold=0

One thing I can tell you is that releasing the fish gives it a better chance
than if it was "released to grease."
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Gullet Hooked
 

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 02:27:36 GMT, "Alaskan420"
wrote:

Anyway. What should ethically be done with an inedible fish that has been
gullet hooked?

IMO, the majority times...it's best just to clip the line and
release em'. I've caught quite a few bass over the years that had
hooks in em' and believe that some can live as long as you don't go
yanking on their innards and messing around with em' too much.

I also think that a few dead or dying fish going to the water
isn't that bad of a thing as the turtles have to eat too...

--
Dwayne E. Cooper, Atty at Law
Indianapolis, IN
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Gullet Hooked
 

Gullet Hooked

Group: rec.outdoors.fishing.bass Date: Wed, Jun 7, 2006, 2:27am (CDT+5)
From: (Alaskan420)
Background...
I fish a local pond fairly regularly. It has a very high level of toxic
metals and other contaminants left behind from tanneries and mills.
I have caught numerous bass and pickerel with lesions and sores.
NOTHING CAN BE EATEN.
This spring I seem to be deep hooking more fish than normal. Usually I
am able to lip hook 85-90% of the time.
Anyway. What should ethically be done with an inedible fish that has
been gullet hooked?
I clipped the line on two yesterday and left the hook in the fish and
released 'em. With the quality of hook materials I doubt they just melt
away like the old wives tale tells us.
Today I tried surgery on one. The patient was alive when I got the hook
out but bleeding badly. I watched her struggle and die.
Any ideas????
I already crimp the barbs when I fish this pond.
========
I have been fishing for about 60 years..ya win a few, ya lose a few. Gut
hooked fish are just a fact of the sport....do the best you can, and
don't let it bother ya much! 99% of all the fish that die, die from
causes other than being gut hooked.....it isn't doing any real harm to
the population!

JK

Gullet Hooked
 

....can't find the link with pictures, but a technique I had to learn when I
started fishing senkos goes something like this....if you can see the hook,
cut off a foot or so of line and while lipping the bass feed the line down
along the gill plate.... avoiding the gills if possible...pull straight down
on the tag end and this will rotate the hook so the bend can be grabbed with
pliers and popped straight out.....I've done this hundreds of times and have
only lost a few patients.....I routinely demonstrate this at weigh-ins
because the plated hooks just don't disolve like the old bronze Eagle Claws
we grew up with. offered up Huck

Gullet Hooked.....found the link
 

http://www.in-fisherman.com/magazine...val/index.html

Gullet Hooked
 

I found this article at Infisherman site about removing hooks from the
gullet.
Hope it helps

http://www.in-fisherman.com/magazine...val/index.html

Mike

Gullet Hooked
 

I keep this URL bookmarked because this question seems to rise about once a
year. I have nothing to do with this company what so ever, I just use and
believe in the product. http://www.dbarb.com/



"Alaskan420" wrote in message
news:sQqhg.4986$LN1.3027@trndny01...
Background...

I fish a local pond fairly regularly. It has a very high level of toxic
metals and other contaminants left behind from tanneries and mills.

I have caught numerous bass and pickerel with lesions and sores.

NOTHING CAN BE EATEN.

This spring I seem to be deep hooking more fish than normal. Usually I am
able to lip hook 85-90% of the time.

Anyway. What should ethically be done with an inedible fish that has been
gullet hooked?

I clipped the line on two yesterday and left the hook in the fish and
released 'em. With the quality of hook materials I doubt they just melt
away
like the old wives tale tells us.

Today I tried surgery on one. The patient was alive when I got the hook
out
but bleeding badly. I watched her struggle and die.

Any ideas????

I already crimp the barbs when I fish this pond.

Gullet Hooked
 

"Alaskan420" wrote in news:sQqhg.4986$LN1.3027
@trndny01:

Any ideas????

I already crimp the barbs when I fish this pond.


Do everything you can to make removal easier. Crimping the barbs is great.
Also, if you use trebles, cut one hook point off. You could try circle
hooks, though that might be tough with many baits-- I haven't seen them
used for bass. Use the biggest hooks you can.

Avoid the surgery. If you can't back the hook out with needlenose or
hemostats, cut the line, leaving a bit out the mouth. If it still bothers
you, knowing that you've taken all the precautions you can, find someplace
else to fish. It would give me the creeps just to be standing on that
bank, personally.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Gullet Hooked
 

I keep mine with me , regardless of which boat I'm fishing from
Ken
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year. I have nothing to do with this company what so ever, I just use and
believe in the product. http://www.dbarb.com/



"Alaskan420" wrote in message
news:sQqhg.4986$LN1.3027@trndny01...
Background...

I fish a local pond fairly regularly. It has a very high level of toxic
metals and other contaminants left behind from tanneries and mills.

I have caught numerous bass and pickerel with lesions and sores.

NOTHING CAN BE EATEN.

This spring I seem to be deep hooking more fish than normal. Usually I am
able to lip hook 85-90% of the time.

Anyway. What should ethically be done with an inedible fish that has been
gullet hooked?

I clipped the line on two yesterday and left the hook in the fish and
released 'em. With the quality of hook materials I doubt they just melt
away
like the old wives tale tells us.

Today I tried surgery on one. The patient was alive when I got the hook
out
but bleeding badly. I watched her struggle and die.

Any ideas????

I already crimp the barbs when I fish this pond.

Gullet Hooked
 

So do I.

"Ken Blevins" wrote in message
...
I keep mine with me , regardless of which boat I'm fishing from
Ken
"Jerry Barton" wrote in message
news:G6ydnaGiDb_QWRvZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
I keep this URL bookmarked because this question seems to rise about once
a year. I have nothing to do with this company what so ever, I just use
and believe in the product. http://www.dbarb.com/



"Alaskan420" wrote in message
news:sQqhg.4986$LN1.3027@trndny01...
Background...

I fish a local pond fairly regularly. It has a very high level of toxic
metals and other contaminants left behind from tanneries and mills.

I have caught numerous bass and pickerel with lesions and sores.

NOTHING CAN BE EATEN.

This spring I seem to be deep hooking more fish than normal. Usually I
am
able to lip hook 85-90% of the time.

Anyway. What should ethically be done with an inedible fish that has
been
gullet hooked?

I clipped the line on two yesterday and left the hook in the fish and
released 'em. With the quality of hook materials I doubt they just melt
away
like the old wives tale tells us.

Today I tried surgery on one. The patient was alive when I got the hook
out
but bleeding badly. I watched her struggle and die.

Any ideas????

I already crimp the barbs when I fish this pond.

Gullet Hooked
 

I appreciate the tip about the DBarb tool.
Seems pretty handy but unfortunately completely irrelevant to my original
question.

The tool appears useless in a gullet hooked fish. Reaching in and just
snipping off the shank of the hook will not reduce the chances of death for
the returned fish.

This tool seems more useful when fish are hooked in the bony areas of the
face or in the eyes. Any situation where "backing" the hook out would cause
more severe damage.

Steve Huber....thanks for the tip. I am going to try the gill slit thing
next time. It's amazing to me how we all buy into erroneous information.
"What was good enough for my dad must be good enough for me eh?"


--
Ric Hamel
poor, poor fishing freak...






"Jerry Barton" wrote in message
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I keep this URL bookmarked because this question seems to rise about once
a
year. I have nothing to do with this company what so ever, I just use and
believe in the product. http://www.dbarb.com/



"Alaskan420" wrote in message
news:sQqhg.4986$LN1.3027@trndny01...
Background...

I fish a local pond fairly regularly. It has a very high level of toxic
metals and other contaminants left behind from tanneries and mills.

I have caught numerous bass and pickerel with lesions and sores.

NOTHING CAN BE EATEN.

This spring I seem to be deep hooking more fish than normal. Usually I
am
able to lip hook 85-90% of the time.

Anyway. What should ethically be done with an inedible fish that has
been
gullet hooked?

I clipped the line on two yesterday and left the hook in the fish and
released 'em. With the quality of hook materials I doubt they just melt
away
like the old wives tale tells us.

Today I tried surgery on one. The patient was alive when I got the hook
out
but bleeding badly. I watched her struggle and die.

Any ideas????

I already crimp the barbs when I fish this pond.

Gullet Hooked
 

Alaskan420 wrote:
Anyway. What should ethically be done with an inedible fish that has been
gullet hooked?


This is a really timely thread. I left hooks in two bass last evening
(well, three, counting the one that broke off because I was too lazy to
re-tie) while fishing Senkos. I finally started flattening the barbs.

Dick Durbin
Tallahassee