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Why is it you search the internet for something (Fly Fishing in this case) and when you get into a forum, there is always some clown filling the pages with none related items. Political ideas are not what people are coming here for. RW's political rant serves absolutely no purpose on a Fly Fishing Forum. It is a distraction intended on eliciting a response and ends up with in a typed battle of ideas. I manage a web site that has many discussion boards and I think it is important to keep boards on topic or you end up with a useless board. I am going out on a limb here but is not the intent of a forum like this to be a place for people to share ideas (ON THE TOPIC) and to keep a board that information flows free and people want to visit? The internet is gumbled with enough crap that one would hope that a topic board would be a forum for the desired topic. Administrators, you can curb this by deleting none relating threads. Keep politics out of my fly box.
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"Lylesrob" wrote in message ... Keep politics out of my fly box. Please excuse my rant. Maybe this is not the place for you? |
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"Lylesrob" wrote ... Why is it you search the internet for something (Fly Fishing in this case) and when you get into a forum, there is always some clown filling the pages with none related items. You mean like this post of yours? I see no FF stuff here. Political ideas are not what people are coming here for. Gee, I dunno. ROFF has been around a while. You haven't. RW's political rant serves absolutely no purpose on a Fly Fishing Forum. Perhaps, but does your commentary on rw's post serve a purpose on a FF forum? It is a distraction intended on eliciting a response and ends up with in a typed battle of ideas. Such a horrible thing. The free exchange of ideas. What a nightmare. I manage a web site Wow, you are very impressive. that has many discussion boards and I think it is important to keep boards on topic or you end up with a useless board. Thanks for your unsolicited, off topic comments. I am going out on a limb here Please, further out on the limb. Just another foot or two. but is not the intent of a forum like this to be a place for people to share ideas (ON THE TOPIC) and to keep a board that information flows free and people want to visit? I dunno, ROFF seems to be doing just fine. The internet is gumbled with enough crap that one would hope that a topic board would be a forum for the desired topic. I suppose, but you aren't helping at all. Administrators, you can curb this by deleting none relating threads. There are no admins. Keep politics out of my fly box. Even when politicians go into your fly? Please excuse my rant. Only if you excuse all the other rants here. Lylesrob Dan |
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Lylesrob wrote in
: I manage a web site that has many discussion boards... Then one would perhaps come to the fork in the road where you either would understand the difference between a hosted forum and a usenet group, or are simply clueless. -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:00:50 +0000, Lylesrob
wrote: Why is it you search the internet for something (Fly Fishing in this case) and when you get into a forum, there is always some clown filling the pages with none related items. Political ideas are not what people are coming here for. RW's political rant serves absolutely no purpose on a Fly Fishing Forum. It is a distraction intended on eliciting a response and ends up with in a typed battle of ideas. I manage a web site that has many discussion boards and I think it is important to keep boards on topic or you end up with a useless board. I am going out on a limb here but is not the intent of a forum like this to be a place for people to share ideas (ON THE TOPIC) and to keep a board that information flows free and people want to visit? The internet is gumbled with enough crap that one would hope that a topic board would be a forum for the desired topic. Administrators, you can curb this by deleting none relating threads. Keep politics out of my fly box. Please excuse my rant. Rant excused, it's a rookie's lament. Do you agree that there is more to flyfishing than simply catching fish? If you should happen to go fishing with a friend, do you really constrain all conversation for the duration of your trip to the subject of fishing? There are good reasons why usenet naifs should lurk for a few weeks or months before considering posting such complaints. One, you'd then know there is no sentient entity that will filter this group, or edit the posts thereon, on your behalf. That's your job - as is showing self-control when appropriate. Two, you'd know this place has a long history of tolerating political debate. And three, you'd know better than to think of this place as *your* "fly box", when you're actually just one of the flies... /daytripper ;-) |
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Lylesrob wrote:
I am going out on a limb here but is not the intent of a forum like this to be a place for people to share ideas (ON THE TOPIC) and to keep a board that information flows free and people want to visit? The internet is gumbled with enough crap that one would hope that a topic board would be a forum for the desired topic. Administrators, you can curb this by deleting none relating threads. You don't even have a clue where you are, do you? Chuck Vance (hey moderators ... can you see about cleaning this place up a bit ... thanks, eversomuch) |
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Lylesrob wrote in
: I manage a web site that has many discussion boards... Lylesrob, ROFF Is about fishing but also what folks talk about while fishing which is to say everything. Now you are correct that there are people here that are considerably more noise than signal. As a solution go find a (free) news reader program that allows you to filter out said people and keywords that you don't wish to see. This morning on ROFF there were 435 new articles and my filters killed 300 of them by name or subject making the remaining stuff pretty much about fishing. For my part I'm using MT-Newswatcher on a Mac and it works pretty. Cheers, Allen |
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:00:50 +0000, Lylesrob
wrote: Why is it you search the internet for something (Fly Fishing in this case) and when you get into a forum, there is always some clown filling the pages with none related items. Political ideas are not what people are coming here for. RW's political rant serves absolutely no purpose on a Fly Fishing Forum. It is a distraction intended on eliciting a response and ends up with in a typed battle of ideas. I manage a web site that has many discussion boards and I think it is important to keep boards on topic or you end up with a useless board. I am going out on a limb here but is not the intent of a forum like this to be a place for people to share ideas (ON THE TOPIC) and to keep a board that information flows free and people want to visit? The internet is gumbled with enough crap that one would hope that a topic board would be a forum for the desired topic. Administrators, you can curb this by deleting none relating threads. Keep politics out of my fly box. Please excuse my rant. I will if you'll help Mike Connor carry another load of his ego out with you when you go. If he has to continue to do it all alone, it appears he'll never be able to get it all moved out, and he REALLY wants nothing more to do with this place... TIA, R |
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Lylesrob wrote:
... Administrators, you can curb this by deleting none relating threads. ... So who's the Administrator this week ? It can't be my turn again already. Scott ? Cyli ? Janik ? C'mon guys and gals somebody's *got* to take charge around here. And the first thing you should do is correct the misspelled word in the Subject: of this thread before you delete it. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:06:29 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Lylesrob wrote: ... Administrators, you can curb this by deleting none relating threads. ... So who's the Administrator this week ? It can't be my turn again already. Scott ? Cyli ? Janik ? C'mon guys and gals somebody's *got* to take charge around here. And the first thing you should do is correct the misspelled word in the Subject: of this thread before you delete it. Now, hang on a sec...ROFF may be missing out on a golden opportunity. Lyle runs a website or something, so he's got all sorts of curb experience and stuff like that. Why not just make him permanent administrator (or at least for as long as he wants the job)? I'm sure it'll be very interesting to watch for all the exciting changes such a person can bring to ROFF. What say, Lyle? You sound like a real sport, and well, if I may be so bold, one damned fine fellow. Is there room in schedule for helping your fellow flyfishers who may have wandered from the true path? Care to accept the post of "permanent ROFF administrator?" Awaiting the results, R |
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Lylesrob wrote: Why is it you search the internet for something (Fly Fishing in this case) and when you get into a forum, there is always some clown filling the pages with none related items. Darn. I thought this might have been a thread about the refereeing in the world cup. We was robbed! ;-) Steve (from the land downunder) |
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On 26 Jun 2006 14:38:32 -0700, "Stephen Welsh" wrote:
Lylesrob wrote: Why is it you search the internet for something (Fly Fishing in this case) and when you get into a forum, there is always some clown filling the pages with none related items. Darn. I thought this might have been a thread about the refereeing in the world cup. We was robbed! ;-) Steve (from the land downunder) I was rooting for Aus, but it looked like they were more interested in wearing Italy down than in scoring goals of their own. -- Charlie... http://www.chocphoto.com |
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Charlie Choc wrote: I was rooting for Aus, but it looked like they were more interested in wearing Italy down than in scoring goals of their own. Could be Charlie. Being brought up on Aussie Rules, I wouldn't recognise a 'world game' strategy if it hit me in the jatz crackers - an all too likely outcome given my so called reflexes and poise :-) Charlie... http://www.chocphoto.com Some nice pics there Charlie. (South East US : are they paper daisys? We have those here ... grow wild in the highlands) Steve |
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On 26 Jun 2006 15:04:49 -0700, "Stephen Welsh" wrote:
Some nice pics there Charlie. (South East US : are they paper daisys? We have those here ... grow wild in the highlands) Yeah, I think strawflower is another name for paper daisy. -- Charlie... http://www.chocphoto.com |
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:17:47 -0500, wrote:
Now, hang on a sec...ROFF may be missing out on a golden opportunity. Lyle runs a website or something, so he's got all sorts of curb experience and stuff like that. Why not just make him permanent administrator (or at least for as long as he wants the job)? I'm sure it'll be very interesting to watch for all the exciting changes such a person can bring to ROFF. What say, Lyle? You sound like a real sport, and well, if I may be so bold, one damned fine fellow. Is there room in schedule for helping your fellow flyfishers who may have wandered from the true path? Care to accept the post of "permanent ROFF administrator?" Awaiting the results, R Excellent idea. The man knows whereof he speaks, or so he says. After all, he administers HIS OWN WEB FORUMS. What more can we ask than that some control freak who can't tell the difference between a Web forum and a ' Net newsgroup take control here? Just because this isn't a moderated group shouldn't stop him. He's bound to know so much about computers that he can moderate this group without spending more than a minute or two to figure out how to do it. He's cool. He's got his own Web site. We should all bow down. No. Remember which direction to face when bowing, guys. That's important. -- r.bc: vixen Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher, etc.. Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. Really. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:00:50 +0000, Lylesrob
wrote: Why is it you search the internet for something (Fly Fishing in this case) and when you get into a forum, there is always some clown filling the pages with none related items. I"m proud of you guys. None of you mentioned his spelling or grammar. ROFF is so cool. -- r.bc: vixen Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher, etc.. Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. Really. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
Thanks for all of the wonderful replies. I will bow out as I am in the wrong place. After searching for discussions about fly fishing I encountered mostly non fishing related discussions. My frustration peaked here at this forum I guess. I will continue to search for a fishing site. As far as administrating and topic steering here... none needed here.
I made a mistake looking for constuctive ideas on fly fishing here it seems. I will bow out as I am in the wrong place. I shall search on. Tight lines! |
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Lylesrob wrote: I made a mistake looking for constuctive ideas on fly fishing here it seems. I will bow out as I am in the wrong place. I shall search on. What you seek is here, you just don't know how to mine it. Steve |
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Stephen Welsh wrote:
Lylesrob wrote: I made a mistake looking for constuctive ideas on fly fishing here it seems. I will bow out as I am in the wrong place. I shall search on. What you seek is here, you just don't know how to mine it. Or as Yoda would say, "Here is what you seek. How to mine it you know not." ObROFF: Don't bother with Royal Wulff patterns, but if you do, don't drive yourself crazy with calf body hair. It's a PITA. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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rw wrote:
... ObROFF: Don't bother with Royal Wulff patterns, ... Amen to that. I tie a lot of my own flies but not Royal Wulffs. Way too much of pain in the ass to save a buck, buck-and-a-half. Royal Wulffs are definitely a buy rather than tie pattern for me. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
rw wrote: ... ObROFF: Don't bother with Royal Wulff patterns, ... Amen to that. I tie a lot of my own flies but not Royal Wulffs. Way too much of pain in the ass to save a buck, buck-and-a-half. Royal Wulffs are definitely a buy rather than tie pattern for me. There are plenty of easier-to-tie patterns that are just as effective, if not more so. Personally, I like to make at least a gesture toward matching the hatch. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: rw wrote: ... ObROFF: Don't bother with Royal Wulff patterns, ... Amen to that. I tie a lot of my own flies but not Royal Wulffs. Way too much of pain in the ass to save a buck, buck-and-a-half. Royal Wulffs are definitely a buy rather than tie pattern for me. There are plenty of easier-to-tie patterns that are just as effective, if not more so. Personally, I like to make at least a gesture toward matching the hatch. Agreed with both of you. I've tied RWs, but only a couple times. It darn near put tears in my eyes when I hung one in a tree. ;-) FWIW, I have fished an Adams and RW in the same day, on the same stream. The RW out fished the Adams, by a substantial margin. The best I can figure is, the RW looks like a terrestrial(ant, ladybug or whatever?)to the fish, and on that day, that's what they preferred. I was happy, cause I could see the Wulff a lot easier than the #16 Adams I was using. brians |
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briansfly wrote:
Agreed with both of you. I've tied RWs, but only a couple times. It darn near put tears in my eyes when I hung one in a tree. ;-) FWIW, I have fished an Adams and RW in the same day, on the same stream. The RW out fished the Adams, by a substantial margin. The best I can figure is, the RW looks like a terrestrial(ant, ladybug or whatever?)to the fish, and on that day, that's what they preferred. I was happy, cause I could see the Wulff a lot easier than the #16 Adams I was using. A hi-vis foam beetle probably would have worked as well, if not better. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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rw wrote: briansfly wrote: Agreed with both of you. I've tied RWs, but only a couple times. It darn near put tears in my eyes when I hung one in a tree. ;-) FWIW, I have fished an Adams and RW in the same day, on the same stream. The RW out fished the Adams, by a substantial margin. The best I can figure is, the RW looks like a terrestrial(ant, ladybug or whatever?)to the fish, and on that day, that's what they preferred. I was happy, cause I could see the Wulff a lot easier than the #16 Adams I was using. A hi-vis foam beetle probably would have worked as well, if not better. Pass Lake. Wolfgang trust me. |
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"Lylesrob" wrote in message ... Why is it you search the internet for something (Fly Fishing in this case) and when you get into a forum, there is always some clown filling the pages with none related items. Political ideas are not what people are coming here for. RW's political rant serves absolutely no purpose on a Fly Fishing Forum. It is a distraction intended on eliciting a response and ends up with in a typed battle of ideas. I manage a web site that has many discussion boards and I think it is important to keep boards on topic... And yet, here we are. |
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"Lylesrob" wrote in message ... Tight lines! Here's a big bag of Bite-me to speed you on your journey. Enjoy. Dave |
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