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What do fly fishers like?
Hello all,
I'm in the process of creating a website whose purpose is to help people do nice things for each other. Many times, you want to do something for someone, but all you know about them is that they are interested in a particular hobby or activity that you don't know much about. I'm collecting information about as many different hobbies as I can. So...two questions. 1. What do fly fishers like/need/want? I'm looking for a list of things that someone else could pick out for you that you would really enjoy receiving. This can include items, gift certificates to particular stores, magazine subscriptions, books, favors, trips to events, etc. Anything that you would find useful and/or desirable in your capacity as a fly fisher. These don't have to be "bought" items. If you really need lots of empty egg cartons, put it on the list! 2. If I was married to a fly fisher, and wanted to better understand what they are talking about over the dinner table without actually becoming a fly fisher myself, what books or websites should I look at? Any information would be appreciated by myself and likely by the families and friends of many fly fishers! The guys over in the woodworking newsgroup did a great job on their page. I have high hopes for the fly fishers! :) If you want to see what the results look like, click on any of the links on this page under Find Out What They Like: http://www.spousalsponsorship.org/pages/index.html |
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NiceTo FlyFishers wrote:
Hello all, I'm in the process of creating a website whose purpose is to help people do nice things for each other. 1. What do fly fishers like/need/want? A blow job will do just fine. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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rw wrote:
1. What do fly fishers like/need/want? A blow job will do just fine. Um...I'm afraid you'll have to see your own spouse for that one. As to recommending it as a gift idea, that's a whole different kind of website than the one I'm making. Does anyone else have a suggestion? What about catalogs like Cabelas? Do you like stuff from there or is that to far towards camping? |
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"NiceTo FlyFishers" wrote... 1. What do fly fishers like/need/want? Bamboo rods are usually a good gift idea; Phillipson, Granger, or a custom short lite rod, like a 6' 2wt are good choices. Also fly tying materials, especially those essential but hard to get items, like albino wombat belly fur, size 32 no-see-um hooks, or a mating pair of jungle cocks. Or better yet, a jungle cock and a jungle hen. And you can never go wrong with a bottle of single malt scotch. As a general rule of thumb, the older the flyfisher, the older the single malt needs to be. Also, there is a long history of flyfishing literature; an autographed first edition of "A Treatyse of Fysshinge wyth an Angle" by Julian Berners would be a welcome addition to any anlers library. The second most revered volume among flyfishers is "To Hell with Fishing" by Ed Zern, as it is filled with profound wisdom and sage advice. One thing you don't want to give a flyfisher is a new hat; you don't want to touch his old hat, probably not even with rubber gloves 2. If I was married to a fly fisher, and wanted to better understand what they are talking about over the dinner table without actually becoming a fly fisher myself, what books or websites should I look at? Best bet is just to realize that anything a fisherman is saying about his fishing trip is either a lie or a damn lie, and just nod your head and smile as if you actually believed any of it. You could try reading "The Dry Fly and Fast Water" by George LaBranche, after a few chapters of which you will come to understand that your flyfisher is totally insane, obsessed with outsmarting a fish that has a brain the size of a dry pea, and having a somewhat difficult time of it. The flyfisher spends his day up to his flask in a chilly stream, using a $1000 stick to tangle his $60 line up into some branches, emitting noxious fumes from his pipe and his waders, while imbibing more single malt than is appropriate for a Sunday morning, and after hours of tangling his line, falling in the stream, and using a stream of vocabulary that would make the very devil blush, he finally catches a fish, and lets it go. What's not to understand? -- Timothy Juvenal www.tjwoodworking.com |
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Hambone Slim wrote:
Best bet is just to realize that anything a fisherman is saying about his fishing trip is either a lie or a damn lie Yes...your list of "essentials" looks a bit suspect to me. Where do you like to shop for your wombat fur? Is Orvis good? What other sites would you like a gift certificate from? BTW, if I can grab a good chunk of what you wrote above, you've already won part of the essay contest. So choose your list of gift certificate recommendations carefully. :) |
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"NiceTo FlyFishers" wrote in message oups.com... rw wrote: 1. What do fly fishers like/need/want? A blow job will do just fine. Um...I'm afraid you'll have to see your own spouse for that one. As to recommending it as a gift idea, that's a whole different kind of website than the one I'm making. rw doesn't have a spousal unit, he has a *partner*. No doubt that he'll make due with what he's got! Op |
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"NiceTo FlyFishers" wrote... Hambone Slim wrote: Where do you like to shop for your wombat fur? Is Orvis good? What other sites would you like a gift certificate from? Orvis is a word that can generate quite a thread around here. That's beacause some of their stuff is very good, some overpriced, and all generally marketed toward "sports" (wealthy neophytes). Still, some Orvis rods I've seen are as nice as any anywhere, and they have good resale value. I'm more of a local flyshop guy myself, great places to pick up some locally tied flies, other stuff your gonna buy anyway. I figger if they don't have, I prolly didn't really need it anyway. www.flyfishersparadise.com http://paflyfish.com/xoops/html/index.php www.cortlandline.com www.cabelas.com Personally, I like Cabelas a lot more than Orvis. BTW, if I can grab a good chunk of what you wrote above, you've already won part of the essay contest. So choose your list of gift certificate recommendations carefully. Take whatever you like, edit as you please! ....and let me know when you're ready for being nice to acoustic guitar players 8^) -- Timothy Juvenal www.tjwoodworking.com |
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"NiceTo FlyFishers" wrote in message ups.com... Hello all, I'm in the process of creating a website whose purpose is to help people do nice things for each other. Many times, you want to do something for someone, but all you know about them is that they are interested in a particular hobby or activity that you don't know much about. I'm collecting information about as many different hobbies as I can. So...two questions. Actually, though I have no spousal unit, nor a *partner,* just a part-time canine unit, I think your website is a pretty good idea. Like Sandy said though, "Buying equipment for fly fishermen is a little like buying clothes (especially for women), where only the recipient really knows what they want." What is really needed for the flyfisher with spousal unit/*partner* is the go ahead to buy what he or she needs/wants, without a bunch of fuss. If you could somehow incorporate into your website a "YES BOX" with amounts that are ok for the flyfisher to spend, now that would be a real coup! However, short of the above suggestion, most avid flyfishers either know what they want/need, or they know where to go to get what they want/need and simply post their request on the refrigerator door for approval. Unfortunately, for those flyfishers with spousal units/*partners,* the approval is the hardest part to achieve--or so I've been told, not having the requisite spousal unit/*partner.* Thanks for the thought though! Op --oh yeah, if you are truly getting into flyfishin' yourself, stick around here for great info on anything related to flyfishin', politics, social movements, religious debates, loving discussion, hateful replies, antagonistic and protagonistic arguments, bear protection, the definitive word on C&R or C& K....-- |
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Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:
rw doesn't have a spousal unit, he has a *partner*. No doubt that he'll make due with what he's got! Spousal Sponsorship Program does not presume to define "spouse" or "sponsor" in any particular way. If someone wants to be nice to rw, they can call each other whatever they like. :) |
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Hambone Slim wrote: ...and let me know when you're ready for being nice to acoustic guitar players 8^) As soon as I'm done with fly fishers! |
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Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:
What is really needed for the flyfisher with spousal unit/*partner* is the go ahead to buy what he or she needs/wants, without a bunch of fuss. If you could somehow incorporate into your website a "YES BOX" with amounts that are ok for the flyfisher to spend, now that would be a real coup! This problem actually applies to all hobbies. If you don't practice the same hobby yourself, it's really difficult to pick well. Even if you do, it's pretty tricky. That is actually what this site is about. Providing a list of good bets that the receipient will really enjoy, rather than just wasting money on another "I Heart Fishing" paperweight or a "Fly fishing kit" that contains nothing you want or need. Permission is indeed the ultimate form of spousal sponsorship. I am currently building a way for someone to use the site to create and print a customized Permission Certificate. This will be available from all the pages. Eventually, there will also be a registry where you can list everything you want from wherever you want it and your sponsor can choose to get it for you or to mark it "Approved" so you know you can go and get it. However, short of the above suggestion, most avid flyfishers either know what they want/need, or they know where to go to get what they want/need and simply post their request on the refrigerator door for approval. Unfortunately, for those flyfishers with spousal units/*partners,* the approval is the hardest part to achieve--or so I've been told, not having the requisite spousal unit/*partner.* If you did, you'd know that hobbyists make a big thing about getting their latest acquisition past their wife, but most of us are willing spousal sponsors and enjoy seeing you all excited about your new bits of feathers and fur, or whatever you've got now. Thanks for the thought though! Op --oh yeah, if you are truly getting into flyfishin' yourself, stick around here for great info on anything related to flyfishin', politics, social movements, religious debates, loving discussion, hateful replies, antagonistic and protagonistic arguments, bear protection, the definitive word on C&R or C& K....-- Sounds like a newsgroup to me. What are C&R and C&K? |
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NiceTo FlyFishers wrote:
Mr. Opus McDopus wrote: rw doesn't have a spousal unit, he has a *partner*. No doubt that he'll make due with what he's got! Spousal Sponsorship Program does not presume to define "spouse" or "sponsor" in any particular way. If someone wants to be nice to rw, they can call each other whatever they like. :) Actually, I have both a spousal unit AND a partner, but it's still hard to get a blow job. The ideal gift that a non-flyfishing woman can give her flyfishing husband (or partner or whatever), IMO, is the freedom to go fishing whenever and wherever he wants, with whomever he wants, with no nagging or complaints. She should also listen attentively, with no hint of skepticism, to the stories he tells upon his return. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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rw wrote:
Actually, I have both a spousal unit AND a partner, but it's still hard to get a blow job. Try taking off your scary old flyfishing hat before you ask. The ideal gift that a non-flyfishing woman can give her flyfishing husband (or partner or whatever), IMO, is the freedom to go fishing whenever and wherever he wants, with whomever he wants, with no nagging or complaints. She should also listen attentively, with no hint of skepticism, to the stories he tells upon his return. I agree, provided the flyfisher is proportionally appreciative and supportive when it's her turn to host the "Steel Magnolias" discussion group. |
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NiceTo FlyFishers wrote:
rw wrote: The ideal gift that a non-flyfishing woman can give her flyfishing husband (or partner or whatever), IMO, is the freedom to go fishing whenever and wherever he wants, with whomever he wants, with no nagging or complaints. She should also listen attentively, with no hint of skepticism, to the stories he tells upon his return. I agree, provided the flyfisher is proportionally appreciative and supportive when it's her turn to host the "Steel Magnolias" discussion group. I loved that movie. In general, I tend to like so-called "chick flicks." My spousal unit, however, thought the movie was ****. A discussion group would be extremely interesting. Nothing is more fascinating, IMO (including flyfishing), than trying to figure out how women think. It's mostly a futile exercise, but every now and then there's a breakthrough. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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"rw" wrote in message m... The ideal gift that a non-flyfishing woman can give her flyfishing husband (or partner or whatever), IMO, is the freedom to go fishing whenever and wherever he wants, with whomever he wants, with no nagging or complaints. An actual *gift* would be encouragement to go, so the fisherman doesn't have to worry about the wife's unspoken feelings during his trip. |
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rw wrote: A discussion group would be extremely interesting. Nothing is more fascinating, IMO (including flyfishing), than trying to figure out how women think. It's mostly a futile exercise, but every now and then there's a breakthrough. Stick to flyfishing. Speaking of which, you guys haven't mentioned any magazines. Which flyfishing mags are the good ones? |
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NiceTo FlyFishers wrote:
rw wrote: A discussion group would be extremely interesting. Nothing is more fascinating, IMO (including flyfishing), than trying to figure out how women think. It's mostly a futile exercise, but every now and then there's a breakthrough. Stick to flyfishing. Speaking of which, you guys haven't mentioned any magazines. Which flyfishing mags are the good ones? There aren't any good ones. They're all more-or-less bad. You have to actually fish, not read about it. Some people just read fishing magazines and watch fishing shows on morning cable TV and collect gear and dream about flyfishing. They're easy to shop for. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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NiceTo FlyFishers wrote: Mr. Opus McDopus wrote: Op --oh yeah, if you are truly getting into flyfishin' yourself, stick around here for great info on anything related to flyfishin', politics, social movements, religious debates, loving discussion, hateful replies, antagonistic and protagonistic arguments, bear protection, the definitive word on C&R or C& K....-- Sounds like a newsgroup to me. What are C&R and C&K? C&R=Catch and release C&K=Catch and keep. |
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FlyCaughtInTree wrote:
C&K=Catch and keep. Catch and kill. We're not taking them home as pets. :-) -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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Joe wrote:
In article , rw56 says... FlyCaughtInTree wrote: C&K=Catch and keep. Catch and kill. We're not taking them home as pets. :-) Speak for yourself, I've brought quite a few fish home as pets over the years. You catch fish, on a hook, and take them homes as pets? That's disgusting. It's like wounding a deer, shoving it into your trunk, taking it home, and nursing it back to health. Bizarre. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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says... wrote: In article , rw56 says... Joe wrote: Speak for yourself, I've brought quite a few fish home as pets over the years. You catch fish, on a hook, and take them homes as pets? That's disgusting. It's like wounding a deer, shoving it into your trunk, taking it home, and nursing it back to health. Bizarre. Awwww, poor little fishies....you're certainly earning your bleeding heart merit badge. I killed seven fish today. The thought of bringing them home as pets never crossed my mind. OK, I can see how it might be, like, an experiment, but a PET FISH? Give me a break. Get a dog. Oh I see, it's a man thing. Real men don't have aquariums, Eh? Get a life, they are just fish. - Ken |
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says... wrote: In article , rw56 says... Joe wrote: In article , rw56 says... FlyCaughtInTree wrote: C&K=Catch and keep. Catch and kill. We're not taking them home as pets. :-) Speak for yourself, I've brought quite a few fish home as pets over the years. You catch fish, on a hook, and take them homes as pets? That's disgusting. It's like wounding a deer, shoving it into your trunk, taking it home, and nursing it back to health. Bizarre. Awwww, poor little fishies....you're certainly earning your bleeding heart merit badge. I killed seven fish today. The thought of bringing them home as pets never crossed my mind. OK, I can see how it might be, like, an experiment, but a PET FISH? Give me a break. Get a dog. You are such a priss. Let me guess, Californian? Since we're comparing our manliness now, I've killed fish as well. I'm having some I killed for dinner tonight. I've also brought some home and kept them in a fish tank sometimes. Boo hoo. Do you cry when you go past pet shops and see all those poor little fish kept in fish tanks? |
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On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 21:53:38 -0600, rw
wrote: Joe wrote: In article , rw56 says... FlyCaughtInTree wrote: C&K=Catch and keep. Catch and kill. We're not taking them home as pets. :-) Speak for yourself, I've brought quite a few fish home as pets over the years. You catch fish, on a hook, and take them homes as pets? That's disgusting. It's like wounding a deer, shoving it into your trunk, taking it home, and nursing it back to health. Bizarre. It's also illegal in many states... |
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OK, Flyfishers! How did I do?
http://www.spousalsponsorship.org/pa...ing/index.html Let me know what else I need to have/say... |
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Joe wrote: I've also brought some home and kept them in a fish tank sometimes. Boo hoo. What kind of fish, and why? bruce h |
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bruiser wrote: You did very well. Here's some more vendor links that direct you to my favorite fly fishing retailers on the net: Thank you very much, Bruce! Several of those links have interesting things to offer besides gift certificates, like the yearly fly tying instruction books at Blue Ribbon Flies. I'll be adding those sites to the page within the next day or so. |
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"Mr. Opus McDopus" wrote in news:rISrg.5296
: "NiceTo FlyFishers" wrote in message oups.com... rw wrote: 1. What do fly fishers like/need/want? A blow job will do just fine. Um...I'm afraid you'll have to see your own spouse for that one. As to recommending it as a gift idea, that's a whole different kind of website than the one I'm making. rw doesn't have a spousal unit, he has a *partner*. No doubt that he'll make due with what he's got! Op And for the BJ thing, he does give out gift certificates!! -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
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...."wow, where did you get that boat?" http://montana-riverboats.com http://www.montanaboatbuilders.com/kitsplans.htm http://raysriverdories.com/wooden_boatkits.html http://gregboats.com http://www.dhdriftboats.com/index4.html I forgot Roger Fletcher's excellent site, the River's Touch: http://riverstouch.com/plans.htm |
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OK, here's the hard one. There's one more thing I'd like from you guys, if I can get it. I'm even wiling to bribe you for it. :-) This is normally a two-parter, but Hambone Slim won the first part out of the gate. (Your $10 Cabela's gift cert will be coming shortly, Hambone Slim.) I would love to have a paragraph or two from one of your spouses, partners, significant others or non-flyfisher friends about what it's like to live with a flyfisher or a story about the things they love you in spite of. If you look at the Chocolate page or the Antique Tractor Pulling page, you'll see these near the top of each page. If anybody wants to come up with this, I'll send you a $10 gift certficate via email from Cabela's or the place of your (or their) choice that offers $10 gift certificates. If you don't want to post it here, you can send it to me via email. If you want it on the page anonymously, fine. If you want credit and/or a link to your site, also fine. Any takers? |
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NiceTo FlyFishers typed:
OK, here's the hard one. There's one more thing I'd like from you guys, if I can get it. I'm even wiling to bribe you for it. :-) This is normally a two-parter, but Hambone Slim won the first part out of the gate. (Your $10 Cabela's gift cert will be coming shortly, Hambone Slim.) I would love to have a paragraph or two from one of your spouses, partners, significant others or non-flyfisher friends about what it's like to live with a flyfisher or a story about the things they love you in spite of. If you look at the Chocolate page or the Antique Tractor Pulling page, you'll see these near the top of each page. If anybody wants to come up with this, I'll send you a $10 gift certficate via email from Cabela's or the place of your (or their) choice that offers $10 gift certificates. If you don't want to post it here, you can send it to me via email. If you want it on the page anonymously, fine. If you want credit and/or a link to your site, also fine. Tim is one of the nicest, most pleasant people I've ever known. He is a stunning example of manliness, is incredibly handsome, and knows exactly what I'm thinking all of the time. Most of the time I'm thinking, "I wish Tim could spend more time doing what he loves to do - fly fishing. He works so hard and deserves all of the freedom I can give him." I absolutely cherish each moment I spend with him, and appreciate that he treats me to a glimpse of himself now and then on his way to and from the river. -- TL, Robyn |
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Tim is one of the nicest, most pleasant people I've ever known. He is a
stunning example of manliness, is incredibly handsome, and knows exactly what I'm thinking all of the time. Most of the time I'm thinking, "I wish Tim could spend more time doing what he loves to do - fly fishing. He works so hard and deserves all of the freedom I can give him." I absolutely cherish each moment I spend with him, and appreciate that he treats me to a glimpse of himself now and then on his way to and from the river. -- TL, Robyn ROTFL!!!! OK, I think I'm going to need this one notarized. BTW, I *will* actually use this on the site unless you tell me not to. Still ROTFL!!!! |
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 12:19:15 -0400, "Tim J." wrote: Tim is one of the nicest, most pleasant people I've ever known. He is a stunning example of manliness, is incredibly handsome, and knows exactly what I'm thinking all of the time. Most of the time I'm thinking, "I wish Tim could spend more time doing what he loves to do - fly fishing. He works so hard and deserves all of the freedom I can give him." I absolutely cherish each moment I spend with him, and appreciate that he treats me to a glimpse of himself now and then on his way to and from the river. Barf, cough, hack........ d;o) |
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"Tim J." wrote in message ... Tim is one of the nicest, most pleasant people I've ever known. He is a stunning example of manliness, is incredibly handsome, and knows exactly what I'm thinking all of the time. Most of the time I'm thinking, "I wish Tim could spend more time doing what he loves to do - fly fishing. He works so hard and deserves all of the freedom I can give him." I absolutely cherish each moment I spend with him, and appreciate that he treats me to a glimpse of himself now and then on his way to and from the river. -- TL, Robyn I concur with Robyn! Tim's secret *partner* |
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Tim J. wrote: Tim is one of the nicest, most pleasant people I've ever known. He is a stunning example of manliness, is incredibly handsome, and knows exactly what I'm thinking all of the time. Most of the time I'm thinking, "I wish Tim could spend more time doing what he loves to do - fly fishing. He works so hard and deserves all of the freedom I can give him." I absolutely cherish each moment I spend with him, and appreciate that he treats me to a glimpse of himself now and then on his way to and from the river. Okay, Tim, you take the prize on this one. Is the address you post from (minus the NO SPAM) the correct place to send the Cabela's gift cert? If not, you can email me privately, if you don't want to post the correct address. |
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NiceTo FlyFishers typed:
Tim J. wrote: Tim is one of the nicest, most pleasant people I've ever known. He is a stunning example of manliness, is incredibly handsome, and knows exactly what I'm thinking all of the time. Most of the time I'm thinking, "I wish Tim could spend more time doing what he loves to do - fly fishing. He works so hard and deserves all of the freedom I can give him." I absolutely cherish each moment I spend with him, and appreciate that he treats me to a glimpse of himself now and then on his way to and from the river. Okay, Tim, you take the prize on this one. Is the address you post from (minus the NO SPAM) the correct place to send the Cabela's gift cert? If not, you can email me privately, if you don't want to post the correct address. That's okay - thanks. Give $10 to a charitable cause of your choice, as long as it's not some liberal weenie group. ;-) -- TL, Tim ------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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