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Charles Summers July 8th, 2006 10:33 PM

Selling my boat...
 
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't be the
first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?



Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers July 8th, 2006 10:36 PM

Selling my boat...
 

"Charles Summers" wrote in message
. ..
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't be
the first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?


Oh yeah, like you need a Harley, didn't you learn enough while on your
bicycle? My "almost" son in law is thinking about buying an entry level
boat, what are you asking?
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers July 8th, 2006 11:02 PM

Selling my boat...
 

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Charles Summers" wrote in message
. ..
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't be
the first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?


Oh yeah, like you need a Harley, didn't you learn enough while on your
bicycle? My "almost" son in law is thinking about buying an entry level
boat, what are you asking?


Or better yet, you've got the Nitro paid off, right? Why don't you buy
something less expensive than a "big ass Harley" and keep both?
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Rich P July 9th, 2006 02:09 AM

Selling my boat...
 
Harleys are like tatoos now, everyone's out tooling around on them in a
leather vest and a half shell, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. Having
a bass boat is sooo much hipper! Keep the boat!

Rich P


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Charles Summers" wrote in message
. ..
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want
to sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't
be the first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?


Oh yeah, like you need a Harley, didn't you learn enough while on your
bicycle? My "almost" son in law is thinking about buying an entry level
boat, what are you asking?


Or better yet, you've got the Nitro paid off, right? Why don't you buy
something less expensive than a "big ass Harley" and keep both?
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com




Charles Summers July 9th, 2006 02:12 AM

Selling my boat...
 
Just to clear the air... a Harley is NOT in my future. A Honda... maybe...
never a Harley.

(Sorry Wisconsin)


"Rich P" wrote in message
...
Harleys are like tatoos now, everyone's out tooling around on them in a
leather vest and a half shell, but it doesn't mean anything anymore.
Having a bass boat is sooo much hipper! Keep the boat!

Rich P


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Charles Summers" wrote in message
. ..
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want
to sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you
won't be the first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?

Oh yeah, like you need a Harley, didn't you learn enough while on your
bicycle? My "almost" son in law is thinking about buying an entry level
boat, what are you asking?


Or better yet, you've got the Nitro paid off, right? Why don't you buy
something less expensive than a "big ass Harley" and keep both?
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com






Bass_Mr. July 9th, 2006 02:13 AM

Selling my boat...
 
I know one thing from experience Pro.
When that boat leaves the yard you WILL GO CRAZY the first time a good
opportunity comes up to use it and it's gone.
You can bet on that.
I've been saving for four years for a new Triton, but now I'm saving for a
FastCat !


"Charles Summers" wrote in message
. ..
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't be
the first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?




Bob Rickard July 9th, 2006 04:47 AM

Selling my boat...
 
Charles, you without a boat would be just like me without beer... miserable!

Bob
.................................................. ..............................................
"Charles Summers" wrote in message
. ..
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't be
the first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?




Bob La Londe July 9th, 2006 04:10 PM

Selling my boat...
 
"Bass_Mr." wrote in message
nk.net...

I know one thing from experience Pro.
When that boat leaves the yard you WILL GO CRAZY the first time a good
opportunity comes up to use it and it's gone.
You can bet on that.
I've been saving for four years for a new Triton, but now I'm saving for a
FastCat !


I'm very impressed with the performance I have heard and read about the Fast
Cat, but unless I primarily fished big water I would say a conventional bass
boat is better. I have a hard enough time getting in and out of some of the
tight places I fish without pushing a fork in front of me. Having owned a
tunnel hull bass boat in the past I know about the phenomenal ride, and the
unbelievabley stable fishing attitude. That is inherent in the design of a
tunnel hull. Some days I wish I had not sold mine. Mine did overcome some
of the difficulties I see with the FastCat in that it had a conventional
shaped bow, and it was narrower than most bass boats the same length. Even
so it was more stable than any v-bottom or pad bottom boat I have ever
ridden in. The only thing I have fished out of that comes close for
stability is some of the old tri-hulls, and we all know how those pump and
slap in rough water.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com






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Bob La Londe July 9th, 2006 04:20 PM

Selling my boat...
 
"Charles Summers" wrote in message
...
Just to clear the air... a Harley is NOT in my future. A Honda... maybe...
never a Harley.

(Sorry Wisconsin)


Why? I've owned plenty of both and inspite of the hype and attitudes there
isn't really that much difference. The smaller Hondas are cheaper, but
that's about it. Take the top of the line from both, and maintenance, life,
and price are about the same. Say ReclinerWing vs UltraBarge. Harley has
some non-quality (persay) advantages. Resale value is exceptional, and the
huge aftermarket pretty much guarantees you can keep your Harley on the road
as long as you want to.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers July 9th, 2006 05:12 PM

Selling my boat...
 

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message SNIP

I'm very impressed with the performance I have heard and read about the
Fast Cat, but unless I primarily fished big water I would say a
conventional bass boat is better.


***Why is that? I typically fish waters less than 1,800 acres in size,
having put the boat in on basically ponds, yet find that I prefer to fish
from the Cat. The stability is superior, the draft shallower than
conventional bassboats, the hull is more efficient so I get better fuel
economy and yes, it is faster than most. I'm into performance for sure, but
fishability is even more important. If I was purely interested in speed,
I'd be driving an Allison, Bullet or Stroker.

I have a hard enough time getting in and out of some of the
tight places I fish without pushing a fork in front of me.


***Good Lord, what kind of places are you fishing? I understand that you're
fishing river systems, but unless I have to get in between two tall trees
that are less than 8' 6" wide, I can't imagine anyplace I couldn't get to in
my boat that a conventional hull would. I fish thick weeds and stumpfields
that were a bi$%^ch to get through with my Cobra, yet the Cat goes through
with ease because of the shallow draft.

Having owned a
tunnel hull bass boat in the past I know about the phenomenal ride, and
the unbelievabley stable fishing attitude. That is inherent in the design
of a tunnel hull.


***There is a difference between a tunnel hull and a true catamaran hull. A
tunnel hull is essentially a monohull cut down the midline and a connecting
wing attached. A true catamaran's hull incorporates many more design
features to increase efficiency, stability and handling.

Some days I wish I had not sold mine. Mine did overcome some
of the difficulties I see with the FastCat in that it had a conventional
shaped bow, and it was narrower than most bass boats the same length.


***LOL, and I consider the width to be an asset. Fishing from narrower
boats now feels extremely unstable and I love the increased width at the
bow. I can work with a client, for fish with a friend and although we're
close, we're not rubbing shoulders! The only time I've found the increased
width to be a problem was when I tried to get the boat into a slip at a
waterside eatery. I can live with that.

Even
so it was more stable than any v-bottom or pad bottom boat I have ever
ridden in. The only thing I have fished out of that comes close for
stability is some of the old tri-hulls, and we all know how those pump and
slap in rough water.


***Agreed, I had a tri-hull style boat and it was a wet-riding,
hard-pounding SOB! Nice to fish from, but getting from Point A to Point B
on a windy day was wet and uncomfortable. I consider the safety, stability
and smooth ride to be far more important. I like the fact that at the end
of the day, I am not nearly as tired as I used to be. I think that's from
the stability of the Cat versus a monohull. I'm no longer having to
constantly adjust to maintain balance. It might sound silly and
inconsequential, but at the end of a 12 - 14 hour day of guiding, it does
make a difference.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Charles Summers July 9th, 2006 05:37 PM

Selling my boat...
 
I think you'll be saving for a LONG time then, Joe...


"Bass_Mr." wrote in message
nk.net...
I know one thing from experience Pro.
When that boat leaves the yard you WILL GO CRAZY the first time a good
opportunity comes up to use it and it's gone.
You can bet on that.
I've been saving for four years for a new Triton, but now I'm saving for a
FastCat !


"Charles Summers" wrote in message
. ..
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't be
the first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?






Charles Summers July 9th, 2006 05:39 PM

Selling my boat...
 
Just transportation around town is all I need. Much like my attitude when I
bought my boat... point A to point B.



"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .
"Charles Summers" wrote in message
...
Just to clear the air... a Harley is NOT in my future. A Honda...
maybe... never a Harley.

(Sorry Wisconsin)


Why? I've owned plenty of both and inspite of the hype and attitudes
there isn't really that much difference. The smaller Hondas are cheaper,
but that's about it. Take the top of the line from both, and maintenance,
life, and price are about the same. Say ReclinerWing vs UltraBarge.
Harley has some non-quality (persay) advantages. Resale value is
exceptional, and the huge aftermarket pretty much guarantees you can keep
your Harley on the road as long as you want to.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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Bob La Londe July 9th, 2006 06:07 PM

Selling my boat...
 
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...
I have a hard enough time getting in and out of some of the
tight places I fish without pushing a fork in front of me.


***Good Lord, what kind of places are you fishing? I understand that
you're fishing river systems, but unless I have to get in between two tall
trees that are less than 8' 6" wide, I can't imagine anyplace I couldn't
get to in my boat that a conventional hull would. I fish thick weeds and
stumpfields that were a bi$%^ch to get through with my Cobra, yet the Cat
goes through with ease because of the shallow draft.


There are several prime back water lakes off the river where both side of
the boat are rubbing on the tulies and cat tails. In addition there are
several turns in some of those channels going in where you have to edge the
bow of the boat off the side and let it deflect you back into the channel.
This is not jsut one place, but many of them. Even those channels which are
relatively straight would be difficult to shoehorn that puickle fork down.
The wide "points" would be hanging up on all the brush even not with
standing its extra width. A few of those channels have such tight bends
that you have to jockey a 20' boat back and forth to get around them.


Having owned a
tunnel hull bass boat in the past I know about the phenomenal ride, and
the unbelievabley stable fishing attitude. That is inherent in the
design of a tunnel hull.


***There is a difference between a tunnel hull and a true catamaran hull.
A tunnel hull is essentially a monohull cut down the midline and a
connecting wing attached. A true catamaran's hull incorporates many more
design features to increase efficiency, stability and handling.


Actually, mine would probably have been more accurately described as a
trimaran as it had two tunnels the full length of the boat with a nearly
conventional racing pad on the middle hull. Sitting in the water it just
look like a conventional bass boat. The baker was the most stable boat I
have ever fished out, and it never skipped like a regular bass boat at any
speed including wide open and slamming the wheel over hard.

Its biggest draw back, and it would be an issue with your FastCat as well is
that while it drew less water at rest the "chines" sat deeper in the water.
Many of those back water access channels I mentioned before are dish shaped
"roughly" and/or too narrow to get through without forcing your boat chines
over the weeds and root balls on both sides. Because of the deeper chines
this take more engine output to force it through. The Baker was able to
make it through most of these because it was narrower than most 20' Bass
boats, but it was still tough. I had Jarod Bollardo (fishes a lot of
tourneys on the Delta) worried we wouldn't be able to get out of one such
channel when he came down to fish with me. When I go exploring new areas I
have not fished before I take my little tin boat which is even narrower.

I can't imagine forcing that pickle fork through a patch of heavy pencil
tulies to get a fish out or to get back behind the tulies to fish the back
side of an opening back in them. A V front helps to part them and actually
keeps them away from the bottom and back of the boat. The pickle fork would
take a number of them and force them back under the boat.

Seriously, a lot of the guys who fish here never go into those backwaters.
They spend almost all of their time flipping the main river and combatting
the wake boarders and water skiers. For those guys the Fast Cat might make
more sense. I'm not sure it would help much for skipping sand bars though.
I don't see how it would have much less displacement depth at WOT. Maybe a
little, but not much. I suppose it could run the engine much shallower
which could help a little, but when most of us ground out on a sandbar its
not from dragging the skeg. The boat goes solidly up on it. Actually I
have to back off a little on that statement. My tunnel hull did run enough
shallower on pad that guys running Tritons and Rangers could hang hard on
bars I could make it over. I still put it on a bar or three that I couldn't
get off of without help.

Don't get me wrong. I think its a good boat, but anybody who does not
recognize or chooses to ignore the limitation of their boat is fooling
themselves. I really like my BassCat for instance, but I readily recognize
that it is very heavy and much slower than comparable boats from other
manufacturers. I also clearly recognize that the factory has superior
customer support to any other manufacturer, and thats for a guy like me who
is just another customer. Not somebody who has "factory team" painted down
the side of his boat.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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Bob La Londe July 9th, 2006 06:10 PM

Selling my boat...
 
"Charles Summers" wrote in message
...
Just transportation around town is all I need. Much like my attitude when
I bought my boat... point A to point B.


Makes sense then. A mid size Honda will do that just fine, and Harley
doesn't really compete in that market very well with its Sportster. Also a
lot more cheap mid sized used Hondas available.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



--
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Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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Bob La Londe July 9th, 2006 06:22 PM

Selling my boat...
 
P.S. I would credit that Optimax more with the fuel economy than the hull.
The hull may be some help, but let me illustrate my point.

I've got two 2004 Mercury outboards. A 50HP carburated motor I run on my
little boat and a 225HP Optimax I run on the cat. In a WOT run (basically)
rom Squaw lake down to the dam, then up to Fisher's, into Martinez, and then
up past Island lake to the river island and then back to Squaw my 50HP burns
right at 11 gallons of gas and does about 32-33 mph turning 5600 RPM.

The same run with the Optimax running from 68-71 MPH (WOT all the way) burns
just under 12 gallons of gas.

A similar run with my tunnel hull would burn around 18 gallons of fuel.

Now don't go saying I can't compare a fuel injected motor with a carburated
motor. The Baker was running a 200HP fuel injected Mercury.

Those Optimax motors really get incredibly better fuel economy than any
older design out there. I have heard the E-Tecs by Evinrude get even better
fuel economy than the Optimax, but I have not run one so I can't honestly
compare.

Of course fuel economy also depends on how you run it. I compared WOT runs,
at comparable speeds the Optimax will get better fuel ecomony than the
little motor and absolutely shame older outboards. If I trim it just right
at 35 MPH the Optimax fuel ecomony nearly doubles. That's right. I use
less fuel than the jon boat with the 50 horse. Actually its most economical
speed is a little faster than that, but I have to compare apples to apples
right. LOL.

I'm not picking on your boat. Just pointing out that the Mercury Optimax
proably has a lot more to do with your imporved fuel economy than the hull
design.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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Bass_Mr. July 9th, 2006 08:17 PM

Selling my boat...
 
LOL, what's a long time to an old man anyway. :)
"Charles Summers" wrote in message
...
I think you'll be saving for a LONG time then, Joe...


"Bass_Mr." wrote in message
nk.net...
I know one thing from experience Pro.
When that boat leaves the yard you WILL GO CRAZY the first time a good
opportunity comes up to use it and it's gone.
You can bet on that.
I've been saving for four years for a new Triton, but now I'm saving for
a FastCat !


"Charles Summers" wrote in message
. ..
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want
to sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't
be the first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?








Charles B. Summers July 10th, 2006 02:11 PM

Selling my boat...
 
Bob... I can catch catfish from just about anywhere.


"Bob Rickard" wrote in message
.. .
Charles, you without a boat would be just like me without beer...
miserable!

Bob
.................................................. .............................................
"Charles Summers" wrote in message
. ..
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't be
the first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?






Bob La Londe July 10th, 2006 05:50 PM

Selling my boat...
 
"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
. ..
Bob... I can catch catfish from just about anywhere.


LOL. I can empathize with you. I've flipped two flathead this year in
tournaments. Nothing like thinking you got that kicker fish you been
looking for all day only to see that big flatty flip you the whisker.


--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com



Charles B. Summers July 10th, 2006 10:33 PM

Selling my boat...
 
Sorry if you missed out, but... SOLD!


"Charles Summers" wrote in message
. ..
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't be
the first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?




Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers July 11th, 2006 02:42 AM

Selling my boat...
 

"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry if you missed out, but... SOLD!


LOL, Charles, you've made a young man VERY happy. It's so funny to watch
him, he's acting like I did when I got my first boat. Actually, he's acting
like I was a month ago when I got my Cat..... My wife Janet, daughter
Rebecca, future son in law Brandon and I spent the afternoon in the boat
chasing smallies. It was funny to listen to Becca and him discussing plans
for the new boat. And, when we left, I threw him the keys to my truck and
made him back into the landing.

Can you say "Blue Fox commercial?"
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Charles Summers July 11th, 2006 05:30 AM

Selling my boat...
 
Sounds classic Steve! How come my father in law wasn't anything like you?
(He was actually an Elvis inpersonator.... and a VERY BAD ONE)


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry if you missed out, but... SOLD!


LOL, Charles, you've made a young man VERY happy. It's so funny to watch
him, he's acting like I did when I got my first boat. Actually, he's
acting like I was a month ago when I got my Cat..... My wife Janet,
daughter Rebecca, future son in law Brandon and I spent the afternoon in
the boat chasing smallies. It was funny to listen to Becca and him
discussing plans for the new boat. And, when we left, I threw him the
keys to my truck and made him back into the landing.

Can you say "Blue Fox commercial?"
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com




Charles Summers July 11th, 2006 05:30 AM

Selling my boat...
 
Yup...


"Jerry Barton" wrote in message
. ..
So you actually "SOLD" it ??





[email protected] July 11th, 2006 12:59 PM

Selling my boat...
 

Charles Summers wrote:
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't be the
first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?



Charles,
You're making a big mistake. But if you insist on buying a
motorcycle, contact me. I've got a really nice 2004 Honda VTX1300 with
accessories for sale. I made the mistake that you're about to make.
Jack
~~
Jack Dalzell
www.jdbass.com
~~


Charles B. Summers July 11th, 2006 02:18 PM

Selling my boat...
 
Dude... that's BIG bike! I'm looking in the 600cc class... but that's not
why I'm selling, err.. sold my boat. I just haven't had the chance to really
get it wet this year, or most of last year. I hate to see it sitting unused.
I don't know if something happened to me last year when I crashed by bicycle
or not, but I just haven't had the desire to really get out and spend any
time on the water. When I do get out... personally I wish I was back home
doing something else wondering why I was still fishing. I guess you could
say that the thrill is gone for me... or the thrill of fishing alone.




wrote in message
ups.com...

Charles Summers wrote:
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't be
the
first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?



Charles,
You're making a big mistake. But if you insist on buying a
motorcycle, contact me. I've got a really nice 2004 Honda VTX1300 with
accessories for sale. I made the mistake that you're about to make.
Jack
~~
Jack Dalzell
www.jdbass.com
~~




Bob La Londe July 11th, 2006 03:30 PM

Selling my boat...
 
"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Dude... that's BIG bike! I'm looking in the 600cc class... but that's not
why I'm selling, err.. sold my boat. I just haven't had the chance to
really get it wet this year, or most of last year. I hate to see it
sitting unused. I don't know if something happened to me last year when I
crashed by bicycle or not, but I just haven't had the desire to really get
out and spend any time on the water. When I do get out... personally I
wish I was back home doing something else wondering why I was still
fishing. I guess you could say that the thrill is gone for me... or the
thrill of fishing alone.


Fun fishing is usually more fun with a buddy or two in the boat.

AS to MCs unless you are looking at one of the in-line 4 sport bike
configurations you will probably be disappointed in a lot of the 600cc
class. I know the 600VLX Honda is not all that impressive. Some of thos
inline 4 though really perform well, but you have to wind them up to the top
of their range.

Look for something in the 700-750 class. VT700C (no longer made) Shadow in
good shape performs well, and handle wells for a crusier. The Nighthawk is
still one of the best buys in a 750 class new bike although braking is not
as wonderful as some sport bikes and the suspension is not suitable for any
major two up riding. Personally I really like the VF750C (discontinued in
2004 I think, but virtually unchanged from 1994 to 2002) Magna as an all
around performer. Plenty of useable power, but not as quirky as a sport
bike. As comfortable to ride as any middle weight cruiser, and has decent
adjustable suspension. It has one of the smoother dyno curves with only a
slight stumble a little over 4000 rpm. (Most riders can't feel it at all)
You will be very upset with yourself if you decide to get anything smaller
than a 600, although the older VT500C Shadow performed very well for its
class. Then again, I only weighed 190 when I owned mine. LOL. In case you
get tempted to buy a cute little CL350 or some other small bike.... DON'T DO
IT. They are fun, but when you really need to go somewhere you can burn one
of those up on a longer run at moderate speeds.

I have owned (or currently own) all of the above except the Nighthawk as
well as several other bikes, but you asked about Hondas.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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Charles B. Summers July 11th, 2006 04:34 PM

Selling my boat... Getting alot off topic
 
Bob, I haven't been on a bike since I got married 13 years ago. Taking that
into consideration, I really don't want to jump into a larger bike right
off. My old bike was a GS550 and did everything I wanted it to do. This will
not be my daily driver neither since I'm the one who takes our son to school
every morning... I wished I could drive it every day. Gas mileage in my
F-150 is about 14mpg.

I was thinking about keeping my first bike a year or two, then seeing if I
wanted to upgrade to something larger, but then again... this is only a play
toy for me. It all started out with wanting to cruise around the
neighborhood.


"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .

Fun fishing is usually more fun with a buddy or two in the boat.

AS to MCs unless you are looking at one of the in-line 4 sport bike
configurations you will probably be disappointed in a lot of the 600cc
class. I know the 600VLX Honda is not all that impressive. Some of thos
inline 4 though really perform well, but you have to wind them up to the
top of their range.

Look for something in the 700-750 class. VT700C (no longer made) Shadow
in good shape performs well, and handle wells for a crusier. The
Nighthawk is still one of the best buys in a 750 class new bike although
braking is not as wonderful as some sport bikes and the suspension is not
suitable for any major two up riding. Personally I really like the VF750C
(discontinued in 2004 I think, but virtually unchanged from 1994 to 2002)
Magna as an all around performer. Plenty of useable power, but not as
quirky as a sport bike. As comfortable to ride as any middle weight
cruiser, and has decent adjustable suspension. It has one of the smoother
dyno curves with only a slight stumble a little over 4000 rpm. (Most
riders can't feel it at all) You will be very upset with yourself if you
decide to get anything smaller than a 600, although the older VT500C
Shadow performed very well for its class. Then again, I only weighed 190
when I owned mine. LOL. In case you get tempted to buy a cute little
CL350 or some other small bike.... DON'T DO IT. They are fun, but when
you really need to go somewhere you can burn one of those up on a longer
run at moderate speeds.

I have owned (or currently own) all of the above except the Nighthawk as
well as several other bikes, but you asked about Hondas.


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Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
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Bob La Londe July 11th, 2006 07:01 PM

Selling my boat... Getting alot off topic
 
"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
. ..
Bob, I haven't been on a bike since I got married 13 years ago. Taking

that
into consideration, I really don't want to jump into a larger bike right
off. My old bike was a GS550 and did everything I wanted it to do.


Those older 500s performed pretty well. Don't expect that out of a modern
bike. I had a CX500 (same engine as a GL500) that ripped along pretty darn
good too, but they have not been made in a very long time. Realistically, a
700 class bike atelast in the cruisers will perform similarly to some of
those old 500 class bikes from the 70s and 80s when it comes to Honda.

This will
not be my daily driver neither since I'm the one who takes our son to

school
every morning... I wished I could drive it every day. Gas mileage in my
F-150 is about 14mpg.


A lot more folks are riding everyday. I used to ride everyday, but I've
been a contractor for a long time. Pretty hard to carry powertools,
ladders, etc on a bike. LOL.


I was thinking about keeping my first bike a year or two, then seeing if I


That's a good thought.

wanted to upgrade to something larger, but then again... this is only a

play
toy for me. It all started out with wanting to cruise around the
neighborhood.


Ah, you really want something cool and small. How about a 250 rebel. LOL.


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www.YumaBassMan.com



John Kerr July 11th, 2006 07:02 PM

Selling my boat... Getting alot off topic
 

Selling my boat... Getting alot off topic

Group: rec.outdoors.fishing.bass Date: Tue, Jul 11, 2006, 10:34am From:
(Charles*B.*Summers)
Bob, I haven't been on a bike since I got married 13 years ago. Taking
that into consideration, I really don't want to jump into a larger bike
right off. My old bike was a GS550 and did everything I wanted it to do.
This will not be my daily driver neither since I'm the one who takes our
son to school every morning... I wished I could drive it every day.
========
Charles, since you have owned bikes in the past, you probably don't need
any advice on what to buy.....but I'll give ya some anyway :).

Buy the bike that "fits" YOU!

Wish I were a bit younger....it's not that I couldn't handle one again,
just that I like to think I'm smartter now! grin

"Changes in lattitude...Changes in attitude"

Have fun!

John


Charles B. Summers July 11th, 2006 07:25 PM

Selling my boat... Getting alot off topic
 
Thanks John!


"John Kerr" wrote in message
...

Selling my boat... Getting alot off topic

Group: rec.outdoors.fishing.bass Date: Tue, Jul 11, 2006, 10:34am From:
(Charles B. Summers)
Bob, I haven't been on a bike since I got married 13 years ago. Taking
that into consideration, I really don't want to jump into a larger bike
right off. My old bike was a GS550 and did everything I wanted it to do.
This will not be my daily driver neither since I'm the one who takes our
son to school every morning... I wished I could drive it every day.
========
Charles, since you have owned bikes in the past, you probably don't need
any advice on what to buy.....but I'll give ya some anyway :).

Buy the bike that "fits" YOU!

Wish I were a bit younger....it's not that I couldn't handle one again,
just that I like to think I'm smartter now! grin

"Changes in lattitude...Changes in attitude"

Have fun!

John



Charles B. Summers July 11th, 2006 07:27 PM

Selling my boat... Getting alot off topic
 
Don't think I haven't looked at the Rebels... they're some cool little
bikes, but one that I'd outgrow within the first month! If my son was a
little older... he'd be getting one. That's for sure...


"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
. ..

Ah, you really want something cool and small. How about a 250 rebel.
LOL.


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www.YumaBassMan.com





Jerry Barton July 11th, 2006 10:08 PM

Selling my boat...
 
How about my old bike?
http://www.jerrys-world.com/Images/My%20Bike%203.JPG


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Dude... that's BIG bike! I'm looking in the 600cc class... but that's not
why I'm selling, err.. sold my boat. I just haven't had the chance to
really get it wet this year, or most of last year. I hate to see it
sitting unused. I don't know if something happened to me last year when I
crashed by bicycle or not, but I just haven't had the desire to really get
out and spend any time on the water. When I do get out... personally I
wish I was back home doing something else wondering why I was still
fishing. I guess you could say that the thrill is gone for me... or the
thrill of fishing alone.




wrote in message
ups.com...

Charles Summers wrote:
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want
to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't be
the
first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?



Charles,
You're making a big mistake. But if you insist on buying a
motorcycle, contact me. I've got a really nice 2004 Honda VTX1300 with
accessories for sale. I made the mistake that you're about to make.
Jack
~~
Jack Dalzell
www.jdbass.com
~~






Charles B. Summers July 11th, 2006 10:27 PM

Selling my boat...
 
Man... that thing is bigger than my truck! SuhhWeeeeeeeeettttttttttt! Love
the trailer. Where were you during the Wing Ding that's been going on? There
were about 100000000000000 of them Goldwings cruising around last weekend.

(Still too damn big for me!)


"Jerry Barton" wrote in message
...
How about my old bike?
http://www.jerrys-world.com/Images/My%20Bike%203.JPG


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Dude... that's BIG bike! I'm looking in the 600cc class... but that's not
why I'm selling, err.. sold my boat. I just haven't had the chance to
really get it wet this year, or most of last year. I hate to see it
sitting unused. I don't know if something happened to me last year when I
crashed by bicycle or not, but I just haven't had the desire to really
get out and spend any time on the water. When I do get out... personally
I wish I was back home doing something else wondering why I was still
fishing. I guess you could say that the thrill is gone for me... or the
thrill of fishing alone.




wrote in message
ups.com...

Charles Summers wrote:
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want
to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't
be the
first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?


Charles,
You're making a big mistake. But if you insist on buying a
motorcycle, contact me. I've got a really nice 2004 Honda VTX1300 with
accessories for sale. I made the mistake that you're about to make.
Jack
~~
Jack Dalzell
www.jdbass.com
~~








Charles B. Summers July 11th, 2006 10:28 PM

Selling my boat...
 
Oh yeah... cut your grass.


"Jerry Barton" wrote in message
...
How about my old bike?
http://www.jerrys-world.com/Images/My%20Bike%203.JPG


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Dude... that's BIG bike! I'm looking in the 600cc class... but that's not
why I'm selling, err.. sold my boat. I just haven't had the chance to
really get it wet this year, or most of last year. I hate to see it
sitting unused. I don't know if something happened to me last year when I
crashed by bicycle or not, but I just haven't had the desire to really
get out and spend any time on the water. When I do get out... personally
I wish I was back home doing something else wondering why I was still
fishing. I guess you could say that the thrill is gone for me... or the
thrill of fishing alone.




wrote in message
ups.com...

Charles Summers wrote:
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want
to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't
be the
first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?


Charles,
You're making a big mistake. But if you insist on buying a
motorcycle, contact me. I've got a really nice 2004 Honda VTX1300 with
accessories for sale. I made the mistake that you're about to make.
Jack
~~
Jack Dalzell
www.jdbass.com
~~








Bob La Londe July 11th, 2006 10:32 PM

Selling my boat... Getting alot off topic
 
"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks John!



Ultimately John is right. You need to pick a bike that is right for you. I
have just seen so many people buy a bike that is too small and then not be
able to afford to upgrade for a while when they realize it.



--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com



carlos July 11th, 2006 10:49 PM

Selling my boat...
 
All you guys buying boats and bikes, maybe I ought to post mine here
again? '94 Ranger 481VS and a '85 Honda Sabre 700.

Actually, I have been meaning to work on the Honda and get it back on
the road. Needs a battery, front caliper is leaking for some reason.
Change the oil.

The boat needs usual maintenance and I just can not bring myself to
spend the money to put three batteries in it and then have to spend $3 a
gallon on gasoline. Dang.

Carlos

Bass_Mr. July 11th, 2006 11:46 PM

Selling my boat...
 
Sweet ride Jerry. Heck,I bet that thing will pull a boat !
"Jerry Barton" wrote in message
...
How about my old bike?
http://www.jerrys-world.com/Images/My%20Bike%203.JPG


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Dude... that's BIG bike! I'm looking in the 600cc class... but that's not
why I'm selling, err.. sold my boat. I just haven't had the chance to
really get it wet this year, or most of last year. I hate to see it
sitting unused. I don't know if something happened to me last year when I
crashed by bicycle or not, but I just haven't had the desire to really
get out and spend any time on the water. When I do get out... personally
I wish I was back home doing something else wondering why I was still
fishing. I guess you could say that the thrill is gone for me... or the
thrill of fishing alone.




wrote in message
ups.com...

Charles Summers wrote:
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want
to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't
be the
first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?


Charles,
You're making a big mistake. But if you insist on buying a
motorcycle, contact me. I've got a really nice 2004 Honda VTX1300 with
accessories for sale. I made the mistake that you're about to make.
Jack
~~
Jack Dalzell
www.jdbass.com
~~








Jerry Barton July 12th, 2006 02:10 AM

Selling my boat...
 
That was a local park. ;-)


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Oh yeah... cut your grass.


"Jerry Barton" wrote in message
...
How about my old bike?
http://www.jerrys-world.com/Images/My%20Bike%203.JPG


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Dude... that's BIG bike! I'm looking in the 600cc class... but that's
not why I'm selling, err.. sold my boat. I just haven't had the chance
to really get it wet this year, or most of last year. I hate to see it
sitting unused. I don't know if something happened to me last year when
I crashed by bicycle or not, but I just haven't had the desire to really
get out and spend any time on the water. When I do get out... personally
I wish I was back home doing something else wondering why I was still
fishing. I guess you could say that the thrill is gone for me... or the
thrill of fishing alone.




wrote in message
ups.com...

Charles Summers wrote:
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want
to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't
be the
first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?


Charles,
You're making a big mistake. But if you insist on buying a
motorcycle, contact me. I've got a really nice 2004 Honda VTX1300 with
accessories for sale. I made the mistake that you're about to make.
Jack
~~
Jack Dalzell
www.jdbass.com
~~










Jerry Barton July 12th, 2006 02:11 AM

Selling my boat...
 
I've seen it done.


"Bass_Mr." wrote in message
ink.net...
Sweet ride Jerry. Heck,I bet that thing will pull a boat !
"Jerry Barton" wrote in message
...
How about my old bike?
http://www.jerrys-world.com/Images/My%20Bike%203.JPG


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Dude... that's BIG bike! I'm looking in the 600cc class... but that's
not why I'm selling, err.. sold my boat. I just haven't had the chance
to really get it wet this year, or most of last year. I hate to see it
sitting unused. I don't know if something happened to me last year when
I crashed by bicycle or not, but I just haven't had the desire to really
get out and spend any time on the water. When I do get out... personally
I wish I was back home doing something else wondering why I was still
fishing. I guess you could say that the thrill is gone for me... or the
thrill of fishing alone.




wrote in message
ups.com...

Charles Summers wrote:
You know it... I love it, but it's not getting any use. I think I want
to
sell it, buy a big ass Harley Davidson. Call me crazy, but you won't
be the
first.

Anyone interested in a Nitro?


Charles,
You're making a big mistake. But if you insist on buying a
motorcycle, contact me. I've got a really nice 2004 Honda VTX1300 with
accessories for sale. I made the mistake that you're about to make.
Jack
~~
Jack Dalzell
www.jdbass.com
~~










alwaysfishking July 13th, 2006 01:34 AM

Selling my boat...
 

Charles B. Summers wrote:
you could
say that the thrill is gone for me... or the thrill of fishing alone.



Are you insane?, if someone asked me to give up fishing or give up a
finger. I'd give him two just so he wouldn't bother me anymore


Joe Haubenreich July 13th, 2006 02:10 AM

Selling my boat...
 
The operative word there was "alone."

Joe
--------------
"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
ups.com...

Charles B. Summers wrote:
you could
say that the thrill is gone for me... or the thrill of fishing alone.



Are you insane?, if someone asked me to give up fishing or give up a
finger. I'd give him two just so he wouldn't bother me anymore




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