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Greetings all,
I have bee looking for the "safest" way to take Pike and Musky off the hook and have found a bunch of things to try but I have not found the best way yet. I always seem to get hurt one way or another. It's becoming a frightening experience but I still like to catch them. One thing I have not tried yet is a jaw clamp. They look kind of weak though. Any sugestions would be appreciated except those that would harm the fish. Thanks to all, John |
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Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale?
When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land fish safely? -- Bob La Londe Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River Fishing Forums & Contests http://www.YumaBassMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Hey Bob, I like it! I'm going to look into one of these things.
A jaw clamp is a spring loaded thing that is suppose to hold the fishes mouth open. I've never gone fishing with a guide before, so I'm not sure about the cradle. I just grap it's tail and put my hand under it belly. This seems to calm the fish but they sometimes surprise you with a snap at your fingers, even with the plyers in their mouth. Thanks, John Bob La Londe wrote: Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale? When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land fish safely? -- Bob La Londe Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River Fishing Forums & Contests http://www.YumaBassMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Hey Bob I found a good video on fish cradles. Looks like a good idea.
Thanks I think you have given me that answer I was looking for. When all else fails ...... ask! Thanks agian, John John wrote: Hey Bob, I like it! I'm going to look into one of these things. A jaw clamp is a spring loaded thing that is suppose to hold the fishes mouth open. I've never gone fishing with a guide before, so I'm not sure about the cradle. I just grap it's tail and put my hand under it belly. This seems to calm the fish but they sometimes surprise you with a snap at your fingers, even with the plyers in their mouth. Thanks, John Bob La Londe wrote: Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale? When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land fish safely? -- Bob La Londe Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River Fishing Forums & Contests http://www.YumaBassMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"John" wrote in message
ups.com... Hey Bob I found a good video on fish cradles. Looks like a good idea. Thanks I think you have given me that answer I was looking for. When all else fails ...... ask! I isn't no muskie fisherdude, but I seen one on TV. -- Bob La Londe Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River Fishing Forums & Contests http://www.YumaBassMan.com Thanks agian, John John wrote: Hey Bob, I like it! I'm going to look into one of these things. A jaw clamp is a spring loaded thing that is suppose to hold the fishes mouth open. I've never gone fishing with a guide before, so I'm not sure about the cradle. I just grap it's tail and put my hand under it belly. This seems to calm the fish but they sometimes surprise you with a snap at your fingers, even with the plyers in their mouth. Thanks, John Bob La Londe wrote: Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale? When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land fish safely? -- Bob La Londe Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River Fishing Forums & Contests http://www.YumaBassMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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I going to try it out next weekend and I'll let you know what I think.
Later, John Bob La Londe wrote: "John" wrote in message ups.com... Hey Bob I found a good video on fish cradles. Looks like a good idea. Thanks I think you have given me that answer I was looking for. When all else fails ...... ask! I isn't no muskie fisherdude, but I seen one on TV. -- Bob La Londe Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River Fishing Forums & Contests http://www.YumaBassMan.com Thanks agian, John John wrote: Hey Bob, I like it! I'm going to look into one of these things. A jaw clamp is a spring loaded thing that is suppose to hold the fishes mouth open. I've never gone fishing with a guide before, so I'm not sure about the cradle. I just grap it's tail and put my hand under it belly. This seems to calm the fish but they sometimes surprise you with a snap at your fingers, even with the plyers in their mouth. Thanks, John Bob La Londe wrote: Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale? When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land fish safely? -- Bob La Londe Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River Fishing Forums & Contests http://www.YumaBassMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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A pair of leather work gloves can't hurt.
Rich P "John" wrote in message oups.com... I going to try it out next weekend and I'll let you know what I think. Later, John Bob La Londe wrote: "John" wrote in message ups.com... Hey Bob I found a good video on fish cradles. Looks like a good idea. Thanks I think you have given me that answer I was looking for. When all else fails ...... ask! I isn't no muskie fisherdude, but I seen one on TV. -- Bob La Londe Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River Fishing Forums & Contests http://www.YumaBassMan.com Thanks agian, John John wrote: Hey Bob, I like it! I'm going to look into one of these things. A jaw clamp is a spring loaded thing that is suppose to hold the fishes mouth open. I've never gone fishing with a guide before, so I'm not sure about the cradle. I just grap it's tail and put my hand under it belly. This seems to calm the fish but they sometimes surprise you with a snap at your fingers, even with the plyers in their mouth. Thanks, John Bob La Londe wrote: Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale? When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land fish safely? -- Bob La Londe Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River Fishing Forums & Contests http://www.YumaBassMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"John" wrote in message oups.com... Greetings all, I have bee looking for the "safest" way to take Pike and Musky off the hook and have found a bunch of things to try but I have not found the best way yet. I always seem to get hurt one way or another. It's becoming a frightening experience but I still like to catch them. One thing I have not tried yet is a jaw clamp. They look kind of weak though. Any sugestions would be appreciated except those that would harm the fish. I've been handling muskies and pike for the past 20+ years without serious incident. I will, unless guiding simply handland the fish. I do this by sliding my fingers underneath the gill plate (avoiding the gills themselves), moving my fingers forward until I get to the vee notch under the chin. You'll feel a "boney" ridge, clamp down just forward (toward the fish's nose) of the ridge and that will control the fish quite nicely. Most times I don't lift the fish from the water, preferring to simply unhook the fish in the water. If guiding, I have a LARGE landing net, I scoop the fish and leave it in the water, performing the unhooking operation while the fish is in the net. Of course, I have all my unhooking materials already handy, pliers, small bolt cutter (in the event I have to cut a hook) and jaw spreader before I start on the fish. I've done this literally thousands of times and haven't gotten more than scraped knuckles from the gill rakers. You could do the same, and if you're worried about scraped knuckles, get one of those "chainmail" type fillet gloves. I believe Normark sells them. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message .. . Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale? When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land fish safely? I've tried cradles in the past, but I don't care for them. First of all, they're next to impossible to use when fishing solo and secondly, a large landing net works just as well. When you have to lead a fish the entire length of it's body into a cradle, the potential for hooks to grab on the netting are greatly increased. There's little worse than having a hook stuck in the netting with 30 inches of a 48 inch fish's body still outside the cradle! -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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Thanks Rich and Steve,
I have one of those mail gloves and it works great for holding the fish but I have a bit of a physical disablity that causes me to twitch at times without warning and can make me stick my finger right into the fish's mouth, so I'm thinking the boga grip might be my best choce right now. As long as I can keep my fingers as far away as possible from the fish's mouth the safer for me..... and the fish. Thanks again, John Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "Bob La Londe" wrote in message .. . Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale? When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land fish safely? I've tried cradles in the past, but I don't care for them. First of all, they're next to impossible to use when fishing solo and secondly, a large landing net works just as well. When you have to lead a fish the entire length of it's body into a cradle, the potential for hooks to grab on the netting are greatly increased. There's little worse than having a hook stuck in the netting with 30 inches of a 48 inch fish's body still outside the cradle! -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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"John" wrote in message oups.com... Thanks Rich and Steve, I have one of those mail gloves and it works great for holding the fish but I have a bit of a physical disablity that causes me to twitch at times without warning and can make me stick my finger right into the fish's mouth, so I'm thinking the boga grip might be my best choce right now. As long as I can keep my fingers as far away as possible from the fish's mouth the safer for me..... and the fish. Well, if'n you can't grab em', you can't grab em.' Given the choice between a Boga and a cradle, gimme the Boga! -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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Thanks for your advise just the same. I'll pass it on to my kids. I'm
sure it will help them out. Best Regards, John Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "John" wrote in message oups.com... Thanks Rich and Steve, I have one of those mail gloves and it works great for holding the fish but I have a bit of a physical disablity that causes me to twitch at times without warning and can make me stick my finger right into the fish's mouth, so I'm thinking the boga grip might be my best choce right now. As long as I can keep my fingers as far away as possible from the fish's mouth the safer for me..... and the fish. Well, if'n you can't grab em', you can't grab em.' Given the choice between a Boga and a cradle, gimme the Boga! -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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Thanks for your advise just the same. I'll pass it on to my kids. I'm
sure it will help them out. Best Regards, John Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "John" wrote in message oups.com... Thanks Rich and Steve, I have one of those mail gloves and it works great for holding the fish but I have a bit of a physical disablity that causes me to twitch at times without warning and can make me stick my finger right into the fish's mouth, so I'm thinking the boga grip might be my best choce right now. As long as I can keep my fingers as far away as possible from the fish's mouth the safer for me..... and the fish. Well, if'n you can't grab em', you can't grab em.' Given the choice between a Boga and a cradle, gimme the Boga! -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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http://earlsklein.com/images/pickerelmaybe
Boga Grip in action. -- Bob La Londe Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River Fishing Forums & Contests http://www.YumaBassMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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I remember seeing this picture last week. There was a question about it
regarding what type it was e.g. Pickrel, Pike or Red Fin. It looks like it's a little better then the Rapala one. I'm having a tough time locating a Boga Grip here. There are every other type but no one seems to carry the Boga grip. I think I will have to settle with a Rapala grip if I can't locate one. I'm located in Toronto, Ontario. If you know of a place in Toronto that carries them I would love to know. Best Regards, John Bob La Londe wrote: http://earlsklein.com/images/pickerelmaybe Boga Grip in action. -- Bob La Londe Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River Fishing Forums & Contests http://www.YumaBassMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Gander Mountain maybe?
"John" wrote in message ups.com... I remember seeing this picture last week. There was a question about it regarding what type it was e.g. Pickrel, Pike or Red Fin. It looks like it's a little better then the Rapala one. I'm having a tough time locating a Boga Grip here. There are every other type but no one seems to carry the Boga grip. I think I will have to settle with a Rapala grip if I can't locate one. I'm located in Toronto, Ontario. If you know of a place in Toronto that carries them I would love to know. Best Regards, John Bob La Londe wrote: http://earlsklein.com/images/pickerelmaybe Boga Grip in action. -- Bob La Londe Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River Fishing Forums & Contests http://www.YumaBassMan.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"John" wrote in message ups.com... I remember seeing this picture last week. There was a question about it regarding what type it was e.g. Pickrel, Pike or Red Fin. It looks like it's a little better then the Rapala one. I'm having a tough time locating a Boga Grip here. There are every other type but no one seems to carry the Boga grip. I think I will have to settle with a Rapala grip if I can't locate one. I'm located in Toronto, Ontario. If you know of a place in Toronto that carries them I would love to know. John, Both BassPro and Cabela's carry them in both the catalog and online. If you live in Toronto, you should have a BassPro OutdoorWorld where you can get one. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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Hey Steve,
You were right I found a Bass Por shop just North of where I work. I just got off the phone with them and yahoo they have them in stock. Thanks for your advice :))) John Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "John" wrote in message ups.com... I remember seeing this picture last week. There was a question about it regarding what type it was e.g. Pickrel, Pike or Red Fin. It looks like it's a little better then the Rapala one. I'm having a tough time locating a Boga Grip here. There are every other type but no one seems to carry the Boga grip. I think I will have to settle with a Rapala grip if I can't locate one. I'm located in Toronto, Ontario. If you know of a place in Toronto that carries them I would love to know. John, Both BassPro and Cabela's carry them in both the catalog and online. If you live in Toronto, you should have a BassPro OutdoorWorld where you can get one. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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On 26 Jul 2006 11:35:02 -0700, "John" wrote:
I just got back from Bass Pro. WOW what a store. I could have spent a month in there. I got the Boga Grip 30 lb model and all I can say is the Berkley one is a POS compared to this thing. Yeah it was a little pricey at $182.29 CDN after tax but I'm happy just the same. Thanks Steve. Regards, John John, At that price I would secure it with a stout chain. A little pricey if it goes overboard attached to a Northern or Muskie. John wrote: Hey Steve, You were right I found a Bass Por shop just North of where I work. I just got off the phone with them and yahoo they have them in stock. Thanks for your advice :))) John Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "John" wrote in message ups.com... I remember seeing this picture last week. There was a question about it regarding what type it was e.g. Pickrel, Pike or Red Fin. It looks like it's a little better then the Rapala one. I'm having a tough time locating a Boga Grip here. There are every other type but no one seems to carry the Boga grip. I think I will have to settle with a Rapala grip if I can't locate one. I'm located in Toronto, Ontario. If you know of a place in Toronto that carries them I would love to know. John, Both BassPro and Cabela's carry them in both the catalog and online. If you live in Toronto, you should have a BassPro OutdoorWorld where you can get one. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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Dan, tomorrow I will be having it surgically attached. Just incase.
Could be a little uncomfortable sleeping, oh well as long as I don't lose it. Regards, John Dan, danl, Redbeard uh Greybeard now wrote: On 26 Jul 2006 11:35:02 -0700, "John" wrote: I just got back from Bass Pro. WOW what a store. I could have spent a month in there. I got the Boga Grip 30 lb model and all I can say is the Berkley one is a POS compared to this thing. Yeah it was a little pricey at $182.29 CDN after tax but I'm happy just the same. Thanks Steve. Regards, John John, At that price I would secure it with a stout chain. A little pricey if it goes overboard attached to a Northern or Muskie. John wrote: Hey Steve, You were right I found a Bass Por shop just North of where I work. I just got off the phone with them and yahoo they have them in stock. Thanks for your advice :))) John Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "John" wrote in message ups.com... I remember seeing this picture last week. There was a question about it regarding what type it was e.g. Pickrel, Pike or Red Fin. It looks like it's a little better then the Rapala one. I'm having a tough time locating a Boga Grip here. There are every other type but no one seems to carry the Boga grip. I think I will have to settle with a Rapala grip if I can't locate one. I'm located in Toronto, Ontario. If you know of a place in Toronto that carries them I would love to know. John, Both BassPro and Cabela's carry them in both the catalog and online. If you live in Toronto, you should have a BassPro OutdoorWorld where you can get one. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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Do you ever drive down a road and spot a smashed car charger for a cell
phone. Folks probably put them on their car tops and forget about them. Anyway, I've picked up several, clipped off the plug and charger, and then made a durable lanyard out of the coiled cable. Onto one end I slip a piece of vinyl shrink tubing followed by an inch-long piece of copper tubing. Then I double over the end, insert it into the copper tube and crimp it shut. Last, I tug the shrink tubing over the copper and heat it so that it snugs everything into place. On the loop I've formed, I'll add a key ring, to which I can attach pliers, kill switch, keys, or whatever. When I repeat the process on the other end, I slip a clip over the cord before doubling it over to form the loop. What I end up with is a black, rubber-coated, extremely durable cable that I can clip to my belt, PFD, or boat seat. Fully extended, it provides about five or six feet of reach. Joe ------------------------------ "John" wrote in message ups.com... Dan, tomorrow I will be having it surgically attached. Just incase. Could be a little uncomfortable sleeping, oh well as long as I don't lose it. Regards, John Dan, danl, Redbeard uh Greybeard now wrote: On 26 Jul 2006 11:35:02 -0700, "John" wrote: I just got back from Bass Pro. WOW what a store. I could have spent a month in there. I got the Boga Grip 30 lb model and all I can say is the Berkley one is a POS compared to this thing. Yeah it was a little pricey at $182.29 CDN after tax but I'm happy just the same. Thanks Steve. Regards, John John, At that price I would secure it with a stout chain. A little pricey if it goes overboard attached to a Northern or Muskie. John wrote: Hey Steve, You were right I found a Bass Por shop just North of where I work. I just got off the phone with them and yahoo they have them in stock. Thanks for your advice :))) John Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "John" wrote in message ups.com... I remember seeing this picture last week. There was a question about it regarding what type it was e.g. Pickrel, Pike or Red Fin. It looks like it's a little better then the Rapala one. I'm having a tough time locating a Boga Grip here. There are every other type but no one seems to carry the Boga grip. I think I will have to settle with a Rapala grip if I can't locate one. I'm located in Toronto, Ontario. If you know of a place in Toronto that carries them I would love to know. John, Both BassPro and Cabela's carry them in both the catalog and online. If you live in Toronto, you should have a BassPro OutdoorWorld where you can get one. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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That sounds like a good idea.
Thanks Joe. Regards, John Joe Haubenreich wrote: Do you ever drive down a road and spot a smashed car charger for a cell phone. Folks probably put them on their car tops and forget about them. Anyway, I've picked up several, clipped off the plug and charger, and then made a durable lanyard out of the coiled cable. Onto one end I slip a piece of vinyl shrink tubing followed by an inch-long piece of copper tubing. Then I double over the end, insert it into the copper tube and crimp it shut. Last, I tug the shrink tubing over the copper and heat it so that it snugs everything into place. On the loop I've formed, I'll add a key ring, to which I can attach pliers, kill switch, keys, or whatever. When I repeat the process on the other end, I slip a clip over the cord before doubling it over to form the loop. What I end up with is a black, rubber-coated, extremely durable cable that I can clip to my belt, PFD, or boat seat. Fully extended, it provides about five or six feet of reach. Joe ------------------------------ "John" wrote in message ups.com... Dan, tomorrow I will be having it surgically attached. Just incase. Could be a little uncomfortable sleeping, oh well as long as I don't lose it. Regards, John Dan, danl, Redbeard uh Greybeard now wrote: On 26 Jul 2006 11:35:02 -0700, "John" wrote: I just got back from Bass Pro. WOW what a store. I could have spent a month in there. I got the Boga Grip 30 lb model and all I can say is the Berkley one is a POS compared to this thing. Yeah it was a little pricey at $182.29 CDN after tax but I'm happy just the same. Thanks Steve. Regards, John John, At that price I would secure it with a stout chain. A little pricey if it goes overboard attached to a Northern or Muskie. John wrote: Hey Steve, You were right I found a Bass Por shop just North of where I work. I just got off the phone with them and yahoo they have them in stock. Thanks for your advice :))) John Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "John" wrote in message ups.com... I remember seeing this picture last week. There was a question about it regarding what type it was e.g. Pickrel, Pike or Red Fin. It looks like it's a little better then the Rapala one. I'm having a tough time locating a Boga Grip here. There are every other type but no one seems to carry the Boga grip. I think I will have to settle with a Rapala grip if I can't locate one. I'm located in Toronto, Ontario. If you know of a place in Toronto that carries them I would love to know. John, Both BassPro and Cabela's carry them in both the catalog and online. If you live in Toronto, you should have a BassPro OutdoorWorld where you can get one. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:36:39 -0700, Bob La Londe wrote:
Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale? When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land fish safely? A cradle? You have not lived until you have tried to cradle a 54" muskie with an 8 Inch hook sporting three 5/0 trebles sharpened to perfection. I did it once and threw the damn cradle away! Talk about an adventure. Anyway, I would avoid the cradle and instead get a Pen Fin Saver Beckman net (PFT34404). It is much easier to land and handle the fish in one of these. Also, if you don't already have a heavy duty pair of wire cutters (a pair that you can manage with one hand and cut a 5/0 hook) you really should get some. I have and use the Knippex cutters (http://www.thornebros.com/muskie/lur...oc_knipex.html) I almost always cut the hooks on the larger fish, it is much easier than trying to remove them. I also carry a snap-ring plier and some extra trebles and rings to replace cut hooks. It is a lot cheaper and easier than getting your hand/arm/leg torn apart by a thrashing Muskie with a mouth full of treble hooks. :-) -- -Gary |
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