Gill Netting For Salmon
 

I bought a fair bit (300 yardsX5feet) of 5" gill net. Can I catch
salmon with this on a fairly big river with salmon running up it? I
was thinking of stringing 100lb mono through the top of the net, and
tying the mono to each bank. I have made about 40 leads, each about
4oz. Will this arrangement work? I'm thinking of leaving it out for a
day, will it be packed full of salmon? Would my arrangement and net
size hold all the salmon? The salmon which run up the river go up to
about 30lb normally. Would that size of salmn be capable of ripping
the net apart? The line in the net is 0.7mm, that's about 15lb
strenght. Also, when I empty the net, will most of the salmon be dead?

Thanks, I've googled this alot, but I could not find much of any use.

By the way, gill netting is legal where I am, but no-one does it
anymore.

Gill Netting For Salmon
 

I also thought if I tensioned the line enough by pulling it, I wouldn't
need floats. I can improvise floats out of pipe insulation if
neccesary however.

Gill Netting For Salmon
 

You need to check your state laws. I would be surprised if you would be
allowed to net spawning salmon. You would devastate the returning
population.
George in Las Vegas

Gill Netting For Salmon
 

George wrote:
You need to check your state laws. I would be surprised if you would be
allowed to net spawning salmon. You would devastate the returning
population.
George in Las Vegas

I thought that gill netting was only for population count reasons. Is
it also used for fishing ?

Gill Netting For Salmon
 

fishy1 wrote:
I bought a fair bit (300 yardsX5feet) of 5" gill net. Can I catch
salmon with this on a fairly big river with salmon running up it? I
was thinking of stringing 100lb mono through the top of the net, and
tying the mono to each bank. I have made about 40 leads, each about
4oz. Will this arrangement work? I'm thinking of leaving it out for a
day, will it be packed full of salmon? Would my arrangement and net
size hold all the salmon? The salmon which run up the river go up to
about 30lb normally. Would that size of salmn be capable of ripping
the net apart? The line in the net is 0.7mm, that's about 15lb
strenght. Also, when I empty the net, will most of the salmon be dead?

Thanks, I've googled this alot, but I could not find much of any use.

By the way, gill netting is legal where I am, but no-one does it
anymore.

Why gill nets? I'd think blasting caps or using det cord would prove
more cost and time effective?

David N.

Gill Netting For Salmon
 

This guy lives in the UK so who knows about their laws, I know no where
in the states could you get away with this

Gill Netting For Salmon
 

"I Like Pike" wrote in message
oups.com...

This guy lives in the UK so who knows about their laws, I know no where
in the states could you get away with this


The Native Americans / First Nation people are allowed on some rivers in
the West to gill net. If you strung the net across a navigable river, do
not expect it to be there when you return. Or at least in one piece.

Gill Netting For Salmon
 

CalifBill wrote:
"I Like Pike" wrote in message
oups.com...

This guy lives in the UK so who knows about their laws, I know no where
in the states could you get away with this


The Native Americans / First Nation people are allowed on some rivers in
the West to gill net. If you strung the net across a navigable river, do
not expect it to be there when you return. Or at least in one piece.

Great Post! That was quite common here for awhile then the Indians
decided it was best to drift with their nets. The next thing you know
their boats started sinking during the night for some unknown reason so
they started pulling their boats at night. It wasn't long after that
they were hit with shotgun pellets. Now, it is pretty rare to see a net
outside of the reservation, imagine that. I guess some people just
don't like others who net the rivers, maybe the OP should have realized
that before posting.
BTW, to the OP, your rigging will not work, that is not how it's done.
I've hung enough gillnet in my time to get a good chuckle out of your
plan. Don't bother to email me because I'm not going to tell you how
either.

Terry
--
Crayfishing Made Easy
World's Leader in Crayfish Traps
Everyone Is Doing It. Are You?
http://www.terrybullard.com/CrawfishMain.html

Gill Netting For Salmon
 

CMaster wrote:
CalifBill wrote:
"I Like Pike" wrote in message
oups.com...

This guy lives in the UK so who knows about their laws, I know no where
in the states could you get away with this


The Native Americans / First Nation people are allowed on some rivers in
the West to gill net. If you strung the net across a navigable river, do
not expect it to be there when you return. Or at least in one piece.

Great Post! That was quite common here for awhile then the Indians
decided it was best to drift with their nets. The next thing you know
their boats started sinking during the night for some unknown reason so
they started pulling their boats at night. It wasn't long after that
they were hit with shotgun pellets. Now, it is pretty rare to see a net
outside of the reservation, imagine that. I guess some people just
don't like others who net the rivers, maybe the OP should have realized
that before posting.
BTW, to the OP, your rigging will not work, that is not how it's done.
I've hung enough gillnet in my time to get a good chuckle out of your
plan. Don't bother to email me because I'm not going to tell you how
either.

Terry
--
Crayfishing Made Easy
World's Leader in Crayfish Traps
Everyone Is Doing It. Are You?
http://www.terrybullard.com/CrawfishMain.html

This stretch of river is not navegatible. I'm not a native or non
native american. I don't live in a reservation. I don't have a boat
on the river. No-one shoots other people's boats where I live.
Perhaps this is acceptable behaviour where you live when you disagree
with them, but here, shotguns are not used to shoot boats.

"I guess some people just
don't like others who net the rivers, maybe the OP should have realized
that before posting."

I did realise that before posting, however, people where I live do not
mind netting of rivers. I really don't care what someone across the
atlantic's opinion of gill netting is. BTW, it shows you don't have a
mature attitude when you laugh at someone's idea. I don't intend to
email someone like you. Go do some metal detecting.

Gill Netting For Salmon
 

fishy1 wrote:

This stretch of river is not navegatible. I'm not a native or non
native american. I don't live in a reservation. I don't have a boat
on the river. No-one shoots other people's boats where I live.
Perhaps this is acceptable behaviour where you live when you disagree
with them, but here, shotguns are not used to shoot boats.

Acceptable behaviour? Perhaps not but it happens all the time. I was
just talking about the sportsman point of view here. You should see
what happens when the commercial guys mix it up. They don't call it the
Wild West here for nothing, LMAO.


"I guess some people just
don't like others who net the rivers, maybe the OP should have realized
that before posting."

I did realise that before posting, however, people where I live do not
mind netting of rivers. I really don't care what someone across the
atlantic's opinion of gill netting is. BTW, it shows you don't have a
mature attitude when you laugh at someone's idea. I don't intend to
email someone like you. Go do some metal detecting.

I never stated there was anything wrong with gillnetting, I may have
hinted that your ethics of gillnetting any river for personal gain is
definitely out of balance and nonsporting or perhaps I was just telling
you what happens in my neck of the woods. If you don't care for
opinions of your actions from people across the Atlantic then post to
some local group who's sporting ethics are the same as yours, just like
the people you say who do not mind netting of rivers. I'm sure I
wouldn't laugh at your idea if your idea was mature, which it is not. I
do have a suggestion, catch only your share of the salmon and not
everyone elses.

Terry
--
Crayfishing Made Easy
World's Leader in Crayfish Traps
Everyone Is Doing It. Are You?
http://www.terrybullard.com/CrawfishMain.html

Gill Netting For Salmon
 

You must have some enormous runs to be able to maintain 100% spawning
escapement after using nets to capture fish! Where I live the commercial
fishery was eliminated in 1990 because gill nets practically destroyed our
Atlantic salmon. Fishermen were setting their nets near the mouth of the
rivers and intercepting too many fish. Returns became to low a moratorium
on netting was declared. I'd hate to think how bad it would be if they
netted IN the rivers.

16 years later our rivers are showing recovery. My point being that netting
is a very efficient way to take fish in a river and unless carefully
regulated will be the source of severe stock decline.

I do have a couple of questions...

1) Do you know the stock size entering your river.
2) Do you know the spawning capacity of the river.

Without knowing at least those two factors it doesn't make sense to net the
river. I maintain that a river can't be harvested unless it is known how
many fish are there to manage and maintain the species.

If you do know stock size and how much spawning escapement is needed to
maintain 100% levels, then I can see removal of some salmon as an option
because you aren't depleting the stock.

Will the fish you plan to harvest be used for personal consumption? If so,
how many do you need. Perhaps an in-river trap, where you could control the
removal is an option??

Keith Piercey
Newfoundland
Canada

Gill Netting For Salmon
 

fishy1 wrote:
I bought a fair bit (300 yardsX5feet) of 5" gill net. Can I catch
salmon with this on a fairly big river with salmon running up it? I
was thinking of stringing 100lb mono through the top of the net, and
tying the mono to each bank. I have made about 40 leads, each about
4oz. Will this arrangement work? I'm thinking of leaving it out for a
day, will it be packed full of salmon? Would my arrangement and net
size hold all the salmon? The salmon which run up the river go up to
about 30lb normally. Would that size of salmn be capable of ripping
the net apart? The line in the net is 0.7mm, that's about 15lb
strenght. Also, when I empty the net, will most of the salmon be dead?

Thanks, I've googled this alot, but I could not find much of any use.

By the way, gill netting is legal where I am, but no-one does it
anymore.

If no one is doing it anymore then that should be an indication to you
gill netting is not an OK activity.

I live in southwest Washington and we are blessed with a river near me
(the Willapa) to have 3 of the finest species of salmon available plus
steelhead and sea-run cutthroat trout. The only gill neeting done is
out in Willapa Bay and that activity has been greatly curtailed by
commercial fisherman. Most commercial fisherman I know actualy prefer
troll catching salmon in the open ocean.

I have always belived and I have tried to instill in my own children
that conservation is best practiced by the sportsmen. If your a
commercial fisherman and want to catch a bevy of fish knock yourself
out. But remember that bevy of fish you catch today may mean no fish
tomorrow. If your a sport angler stick to your rod and reel so that
your children and grandchildren can enjoy the sport of fishing and the
resource in years to come. Never retain and kill more then what you
need.