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Well, its almost the end of my trip back to the states, as I fly out to
HK on Monday. Its been a blast, I've had some nice firsts (first
largemouth (first few hundred, actually) on a fly, got my first salmon
the other night below the dam in Bingham, went striper fishing down at
Popham for the first time (didn't get any), my first exposure to the
fabled Rapid River, and my first trip down the Allagash in a canoe.
Unfortunately, with all this paddling and casting, I seem to have
stressed the ligaments in my hands a bit, and am nursing a case of
trigger finger back to flexibility.

I haven't paddled a canoe in earnest for a few weeks, but I'm casting
my flyrod pretty much daily. My grip has evolved into the one where you
put your pointer finger along the top of the grip rather than your
thumb, and I suspect this puts some extra lateral pressure on my ring
finger. The result is that in the mornings, for about a half hour, I
cannot extend that ring finger without it 'popping' when it extends or
bends. I saw a doctor today who said it is either the first signs of
arthritis, or else it should go away as soon as I get back to my desk
job. I chose option 2.

Anyone else had experience with hand injuries or strains from fly
casting?

--riverman

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"riverman" wrote in message
oups.com...

I cannot extend that ring finger without it 'popping' when it extends or
bends. I saw a doctor today who said it is either the first signs of
arthritis, or else it should go away as soon as I get back to my desk
job. I chose option 2.

Anyone else had experience with hand injuries or strains from fly
casting?

--riverman


Riverman, better the ring finger than the middle finger.
All seriousness aside, could have been from all that paddling and not the
casting grip that caused this injury.
I would get a 2nd opinion, to diagnose this as early signs of arthritis is
heavy-duty.
-tom

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On 1 Aug 2006 13:47:19 -0700, "riverman" wrote:

Well, its almost the end of my trip back to the states, as I fly out to
HK on Monday. Its been a blast, I've had some nice firsts (first
largemouth (first few hundred, actually) on a fly, got my first salmon
the other night below the dam in Bingham, went striper fishing down at
Popham for the first time (didn't get any), my first exposure to the
fabled Rapid River, and my first trip down the Allagash in a canoe.
Unfortunately, with all this paddling and casting, I seem to have
stressed the ligaments in my hands a bit, and am nursing a case of
trigger finger back to flexibility.

I haven't paddled a canoe in earnest for a few weeks, but I'm casting
my flyrod pretty much daily. My grip has evolved into the one where you
put your pointer finger along the top of the grip rather than your
thumb, and I suspect this puts some extra lateral pressure on my ring
finger. The result is that in the mornings, for about a half hour, I
cannot extend that ring finger without it 'popping' when it extends or
bends. I saw a doctor today who said it is either the first signs of
arthritis, or else it should go away as soon as I get back to my desk
job. I chose option 2.

Anyone else had experience with hand injuries or strains from fly
casting?

--riverman

If you are actually rotating your wrist to get that forefinger on top of the
rod, it's no wonder the ligaments in your hand are sore.

Stop doing that!

Put your thumb on top of the rod...

/daytripper

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"daytripper" wrote in message
...

If you are actually rotating your wrist to get that forefinger on top of
the
rod, it's no wonder the ligaments in your hand are sore.

Stop doing that!

Put your thumb on top of the rod...

/daytripper

I've been using the index finger on my right hand to power forward and have
never had any adverse effects?

Op

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On 1 Aug 2006 13:47:19 -0700, "riverman" wrote:

Well, its almost the end of my trip back to the states, as I fly out to
HK on Monday. Its been a blast, I've had some nice firsts (first
largemouth (first few hundred, actually) on a fly, got my first salmon
the other night below the dam in Bingham, went striper fishing down at
Popham for the first time (didn't get any), my first exposure to the
fabled Rapid River, and my first trip down the Allagash in a canoe.
Unfortunately, with all this paddling and casting, I seem to have
stressed the ligaments in my hands a bit, and am nursing a case of
trigger finger back to flexibility.

I haven't paddled a canoe in earnest for a few weeks, but I'm casting
my flyrod pretty much daily. My grip has evolved into the one where you
put your pointer finger along the top of the grip rather than your
thumb, and I suspect this puts some extra lateral pressure on my ring
finger. The result is that in the mornings, for about a half hour, I
cannot extend that ring finger without it 'popping' when it extends or
bends. I saw a doctor today who said it is either the first signs of
arthritis, or else it should go away as soon as I get back to my desk
job. I chose option 2.

Anyone else had experience with hand injuries or strains from fly
casting?

--riverman

I had a very similar issue. My doctor said it was a carpel tunnel type
problem and said a shot of cortisone at the base of the finger should
help. He told me he sees the same thing in musicians a lot. The
steroid shot worked fine. It's been 6 months with no return of the
symptoms at all.

harry

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riverman wrote:

Anyone else had experience with hand injuries or strains from fly
casting?

"Single malt elbow" doesn't count?

That's all I got on the subject of your post, Myron, so to hijack it a
bit, I guess you've probably already heard this math education joke:

*****

Little Zachary was doing very badly in math. His parents had tried
everything: tutors, software programs, flash cards, special learning
centers; in short, everything they could think of.

Finally, as a last resort, they took Zachary and enrolled him in the
local Catholic school.

After the first day, Zach came home with a very very serious look on his
face. He didn't even kiss his mother hello. He went straight to his
room and started studying. Books and papers spread out all over the
room, and little Zach working like a demon.

His mother was amazed. She called him to dinner. To her shock, the
minute he was done, he marched back to his room without a word and hit
the books as hard as before.

This went on for some time, day after day. His mother didn't understand
what had made the difference. Then one day, Zach brought home his
report card. He laid it on the table, went up to his room and hit the
books. His Mom looked at it and to her great surprise, saw that Zachary
had gotten an A+ in math.

She went to his room and said, "Son, what was it? Was it the nuns?"
Zachary shook his head.

"Well, then, was it the books, the discipline, the structure, the
uniforms? WHAT WAS IT???"

Zachary looked at her and said, "Well, you know, on the first day of
school, when I saw that guy nailed to the plus sign, I knew these people
weren't fooling around."


--
John Russell aka JR

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On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:16:19 -0400, "Mr. Opus McDopus"
wrote:


"daytripper" wrote in message
.. .

If you are actually rotating your wrist to get that forefinger on top of
the
rod, it's no wonder the ligaments in your hand are sore.

Stop doing that!

Put your thumb on top of the rod...

/daytripper

I've been using the index finger on my right hand to power forward and have
never had any adverse effects?

Op

I'm thinking the kind of flyfishing one does makes a difference. Most of the
fishing I did in your neck o' the Great North State was done with only a few
feet of line out of the tiptop, with the casting consisting of very light
flicks. I can see how having the index finger on top would dampen power out of
the cast, which is probably a good thing in those circumstances, but I don't
think that translates well when fishing big water and particularly with bigger
gear. It just doesn't feel like there's any power there, compared to holding
the rod with the thumb on top of the grip.

Then again, I was first taught to hold and swing a rod like a hammer :-)

/daytripper (And every trout is a nail. Take that, Tim ;-)

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I just had surgery for Trigger Finger 4.5 weeks ago. It's been a pain
in my ass for several years. Long fishing trips really wrecked it, in
addition to lots of shovel and rake work each spring.

Splint your finger and rest it for 8-10 days and see if it helps.
Don't try to work it loose, because that will irritate the tendon and
make it worse. I've had a couple of steroid injections but it's not
good to get those year after year because the cortisone softens your
tendons.

So I finally got the surgery and although it's much better, I doubt my
hand will ever quite be the same. I had to get it done or I wouldn't
have been able to function in Alaska later this month. RW and Willi
and the gang (Danl and Bevin) probably won't believe this but I'll
probably fish a little less than my normal "never stop fishing" M.O.

We'll see.

There's a newer "endoscopic" version of the trigger finger surgery that
makes for a quicker recovery. I should have done a little more
homework beforehand because that procedure is much better. I'm just
basing that on anectodal evidence and comparing my experience with a
friend's endoscopic results. Good luck. If you're just now noticing
it you've probably got a few years before it becomes really
debilitating.

bruce h

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Anyone else had experience with hand injuries or strains from fly
casting?

--riverman

I think I was destined to have wrist problems. First, I worked on a
salmon farm in Maine for a while. Many people came down with carpal
tunnel syndrome while working there. I didn't but when I started, some
nights my wrists ached at night so bad it was hard to sleep. Secondly,
I play fingerpicking-style guitar. I learn a lot of Leo Kottke's tunes.
He's a real rapid fire fast fingerpicker. Well, Leo had to take 6
years off from playing because he screwed up his wrists. I am not half
the player Leo is, so I can mess up my tendons far more easily!
Flycasting has to be considered repetitive stress. I first started
noticing tingling fingers about 8 years ago during the fall runs. I was
fishing so much, and having such good success, that my carpal tunnel
couldn' t take it. So my pinkie and ring finger on my right hand feel
tingly. Finally, last winter I built a couple more bamboo fly rods.
Pushing a hand plane is strenuous work, and I developed trigger thumb.
I would notice it in the morning, and it would loosen throughout the
day. Haven't had a problem since I completed the projects, but I am
leery about staring another rod!

Pete

oh woe is me

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riverman wrote:

Anyone else had experience with hand injuries or strains from fly
casting?

Have you considered learning to cast with your other hand?

I tried practicing left handed casting on my lawn a few days ago, not
because there's anything wrong with my hand, but because there are
situations where it would be an advantage. I felt extremely awkward, to
the point where I had to quit because I was afraid someone would see me. :-)

I felt like with some practice I'd get it, but I need to find a private
practice spot.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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bruiser wrote:
I just had surgery for Trigger Finger 4.5 weeks ago. It's been a pain
in my ass for several years. Long fishing trips really wrecked it, in
addition to lots of shovel and rake work each spring.

Splint your finger and rest it for 8-10 days and see if it helps.
Don't try to work it loose, because that will irritate the tendon and
make it worse. I've had a couple of steroid injections but it's not
good to get those year after year because the cortisone softens your
tendons.

So I finally got the surgery and although it's much better, I doubt my
hand will ever quite be the same. I had to get it done or I wouldn't
have been able to function in Alaska later this month. RW and Willi
and the gang (Danl and Bevin) probably won't believe this but I'll
probably fish a little less than my normal "never stop fishing" M.O.

We'll see.

There's a newer "endoscopic" version of the trigger finger surgery that
makes for a quicker recovery. I should have done a little more
homework beforehand because that procedure is much better. I'm just
basing that on anectodal evidence and comparing my experience with a
friend's endoscopic results. Good luck. If you're just now noticing
it you've probably got a few years before it becomes really
debilitating.

bruce h

Yow, I didn't realize this was a potentially chronic thing. Just what I
need, another long term pain. Getting old sucks.

I figured that the extensive paddling was the culprit, and that once I
got back to HK, this would clear up in a week or so and not come back.
Last night, my friend Kevin and I carrried my canoe into new pond to
fish for smallmouth bass (its a new secret spot...very productive btw),
and I carried my end of the boat by the grab loop, stupidly by the same
hand with the problem. This morning, its worse than ever, but loosening
up fast. I can see that I have to be much more attentive to what I do.
Like Peter, I'm also a finger-picking guitar player, so I really don't
want this to start interfering with everything...

--riverman
(typing with one finger)

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
riverman wrote:

Anyone else had experience with hand injuries or strains from fly
casting?

Have you considered learning to cast with your other hand?

I tried practicing left handed casting on my lawn a few days ago, not
because there's anything wrong with my hand, but because there are
situations where it would be an advantage. I felt extremely awkward, to
the point where I had to quit because I was afraid someone would see me.
:-)

I felt like with some practice I'd get it, but I need to find a private
practice spot.


I was inspired when I saw Lefty Kreh put out 70' of tight loops
effortlessly, first with his right casting hand, then with his left.
Tip: When someone comes by to watch you cast, switch to your normal casting
hand, then when they leave, switch back.
-tom

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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:36:53 -0600, rw
wrote:

riverman wrote:

Anyone else had experience with hand injuries or strains from fly
casting?

Have you considered learning to cast with your other hand?

I tried practicing left handed casting on my lawn a few days ago, not
because there's anything wrong with my hand, but because there are
situations where it would be an advantage. I felt extremely awkward, to
the point where I had to quit because I was afraid someone would see me. :-)

I felt like with some practice I'd get it, but I need to find a private
practice spot.

Start by using your right hand over your left shoulder. Switch hands,
but keep your right hand on the very butt of the rod. You'll find it
easy to cast left handed - well, after awhile.

Dave

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For what it's worth, and old friend told me to use my index finger
instead of my thumb so that I would not over-power my cast. It seemed
to work. My mom used to cast exclusively with her index finger on the
rod instead of the conventional thumb.

Dave

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rw wrote in news:44d0a88c$0$24176
:

I tried practicing left handed casting on my lawn a few days ago, not
because there's anything wrong with my hand, but because there are
situations where it would be an advantage.

For me, the cause of my tragic attempts at off-hand casting is usually a
bad wind.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:36:53 -0600, rw
wrote:

riverman wrote:

Anyone else had experience with hand injuries or strains from fly
casting?

Have you considered learning to cast with your other hand?

I tried practicing left handed casting on my lawn a few days ago, not
because there's anything wrong with my hand, but because there are
situations where it would be an advantage. I felt extremely awkward, to
the point where I had to quit because I was afraid someone would see me.
:-)

I felt like with some practice I'd get it, but I need to find a private
practice spot.

Start by using your right hand over your left shoulder. Switch hands,
but keep your right hand on the very butt of the rod. You'll find it
easy to cast left handed - well, after awhile.

Dave


The easiest way for me learning to cast with the opposite hand was to cast
sidearm so I could see the cast and how the rod was loading, slowly raising
the rod to upright. I also started out with only 30-35 ft. of line and
increased the distance in 2 ft. increments when I felt comfortable.

What's amazing, I found by casting with my opposite (left hand) it has
strengthen the opposite side of the brain as well.
-tom

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Tom Nakashima wrote:
snip
What's amazing, I found by casting with my opposite (left hand) it has
strengthen the opposite side of the brain as well.

Casting strenghtens the brain ?!!?

I'll have to add that to the arsenal of fly fishing excuses.
"Hey, it's not like I enjoy going fishing you know, but my
brain is a little weak and I need to go strengthen it."

I'm sure that'll go over every bit as well as the old, "But
Budweiser *is* a breakfast food !"

--
Ken Fortenberry

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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:37:06 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

I'm sure that'll go over every bit as well as the old, "But
Budweiser *is* a breakfast food !"

Welcome back, asshole. How 'bout a TR.

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Ken Fortenberry typed:
Tom Nakashima wrote:
snip
What's amazing, I found by casting with my opposite (left hand) it
has strengthen the opposite side of the brain as well.

Casting strenghtens the brain ?!!?

It's what makes roff so. . . cerebral. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
m...
Tom Nakashima wrote:
snip
What's amazing, I found by casting with my opposite (left hand) it has
strengthen the opposite side of the brain as well.

Casting strenghtens the brain ?!!?
--
Ken Fortenberry

It does sound funny but dexterity-wise, "yes" as in motor skills or muscle
movements.
Casting requires coordination which stimulates the brain cells to grow.
I believe it's the cerebrum that is the part of the brain which controls the
voluntary muscles.
So "yes" again to casting strengthens the brain.
-tom

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William Claspy wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
"But
Budweiser *is* a breakfast food !"

Yadda yadda yadda.

Trip report, please, Ken! And photos, if you got 'em.

:-)
Dave LaCourse wrote:
Welcome back, asshole. How 'bout a TR.

Patience, patience. Hell, my wading boots are still wet.
It was hot there, yah. I caught me some wild brook trout
there, yah. My maps are no good there, yah. I got lost
but good there, yah. And I'll post a pic of me and a 18"
wild, native brook trout just as soon as I dry out my
camping gear. There, yah.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Tom Nakashima wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Casting strenghtens the brain ?!!?
snip
So "yes" again to casting strengthens the brain.

Yeah, I don't know there Tom, I been casting pretty solid
for about a week there ya know and I still managed to misspell
"strengthens".

;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

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On 8/2/06 1:15 PM, in article ,
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

Tom Nakashima wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Casting strenghtens the brain ?!!?
snip
So "yes" again to casting strengthens the brain.

Yeah, I don't know there Tom, I been casting pretty solid
for about a week there ya know and I still managed to misspell
"strengthens".

;-)

No doubt caused by an itchy trigger finger.

:-)

Bill

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..
Tom Nakashima wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Casting strenghtens the brain ?!!?
snip
So "yes" again to casting strengthens the brain.

Yeah, I don't know there Tom, I been casting pretty solid
for about a week there ya know and I still managed to misspell
"strengthens".

;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

You know Ken, spelling also strengthens the brain.
Not to worry, you're still one of the favorites to be in the final round of
the ROFF Spelling Bee Championship.
-tom

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"daytripper" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:16:19 -0400, "Mr. Opus McDopus"

wrote:


I'm thinking the kind of flyfishing one does makes a difference.

And I would be inclined to agree. Most of my fishing is done with a 3 or 4
weight rod. However, I do make a great many fairly long casts--over 50
feet--and I like the feel and accuracy I get by using my index finger.

Op

/daytripper (And every trout is a nail. Take that, Tim ;-)

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Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:
"daytripper" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:16:19 -0400, "Mr. Opus McDopus"

wrote:


I'm thinking the kind of flyfishing one does makes a difference.


And I would be inclined to agree. Most of my fishing is done with a 3 or 4
weight rod. However, I do make a great many fairly long casts--over 50
feet--and I like the feel and accuracy I get by using my index finger.

I don't put either my thumb or my index finger on top of the grip, or
any other finger for that matter. I hold the grip pretty much the way
I'd hold a hammer.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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Wolfgang wrote:
rw wrote:
Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:
"daytripper" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:16:19 -0400, "Mr. Opus McDopus"

wrote:


I'm thinking the kind of flyfishing one does makes a difference.


And I would be inclined to agree. Most of my fishing is done with a 3 or 4
weight rod. However, I do make a great many fairly long casts--over 50
feet--and I like the feel and accuracy I get by using my index finger.

I don't put either my thumb or my index finger on top of the grip, or
any other finger for that matter. I hold the grip pretty much the way
I'd hold a hammer.

or a keyboard.

or, to put it another way, is there ANYTHING that you would NOT do like
you'd hold a hammer?.......and have you ever held a hammer? :)

Wolfgang

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"Mr. Opus McDopus" wrote in message
.. .

"daytripper" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:16:19 -0400, "Mr. Opus McDopus"

wrote:


I'm thinking the kind of flyfishing one does makes a difference.

And I would be inclined to agree. Most of my fishing is done with a 3 or
4 weight rod. However, I do make a great many fairly long casts--over 50
feet--and I like the feel and accuracy I get by using my index finger.

Op

/daytripper (And every trout is a nail. Take that, Tim ;-)



In the book, The Essence of Fly-Casting by Mel Krieger, which I have found
the most complete book on learning how to cast, he describes the grip. The
grip starts out with the thumb on top of the rod-handle, and the index
finger completely opposite of the thumb, not higher or lower. For shortcast
this grip works ok, as his descriptions and pictures indicate. For medium
distance cast, you rotate the forearm slightly (for right-handers it's
rotating the forearm counterclockwise) to form the "V" of the thumb and
index finger facing upright, which gives the caster a slight palm-out
delivery (this grip he says he uses the most). For even greater distance,
rotate the forearm even more to give you even more of the palm-out. You
should also never hold the rod-handle with a death type grip.

I met Mel Krieger early this year giving free casting lessons in San
Francisco. I've seen some pretty good casters in my fly-fishing days, Lefty
Kreh, Steve Rajeff to name a few, but I'll have to say, Mel's casting stroke
is the best. His cast are picture perfect. Mel taught he his grip and
casting stroke that day and I've been using it ever since.
http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Mels_Day_009.jpg



http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Mel_Krieger_2B.JPG

fwiw,
-tom

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bruiser wrote:
I just had surgery for Trigger Finger 4.5 weeks ago. It's been a pain
in my ass for several years.

I'm astounded that no one jumped on this one. g
--riverman

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"riverman" wrote in message
ps.com...


Trigger Finger update: I decided that I don't have to be a second-rate
medical consumer, having pretty good medical coverage, so tomorrow at
10:30 I have an appointment with a hand specialist who also happens to
be the chief hand and wrist specialist for the local professional
sports teams. He'll understand repetitive stress injuries, the role of
paddling or casting in my injury, as well as the prognosis and plan.
Hopefully, he will be able to rule out (or in) any potential of the
beginnings of arthritis as well. I'll let folks know what comes of it.
Thanks to you all for your feedback.

--riverman


Good luck to you riverman and with your visit with the specialist.
We're all hoping it's not arthritis and a little rest you'll be as good as
new.
-tom

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Dave LaCourse wrote:

Start by using your right hand over your left shoulder. Switch hands,
but keep your right hand on the very butt of the rod. You'll find it
easy to cast left handed - well, after awhile.

That's a great tip. I just tried it on my lawn and I was soon casting
tight loops with my left hand. I wasn't even embarrassed for my
neighbors to see me. Thanks, Dave.

Now I have to learn to haul with my right hand. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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riverman wrote:

I'm astounded that no one jumped on this one. g
--riverman

I'm guessing that very few fourth graders read this bb. (G) bruce h

You'll get better results it you try typing "trigger finger" into that
box on google, btw.

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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:02:45 -0600, rw
wrote:

That's a great tip. I just tried it on my lawn and I was soon casting
tight loops with my left hand. I wasn't even embarrassed for my
neighbors to see me. Thanks, Dave.

I learned it very quickly my first time in a drift boat with Peter
Charles, chucking big streamers to chinook salmon. If I didn't cast
left handed (or right handed over my left shoulder), both Peter and
the guide were in peril. I cast left handed alot when I have the
current of a stream coming from my right; it's natural to cast
up-stream with the left hand (or over the left shoulder). It's a good
skill to have if you are close in with others, ala a drift boat.

Dave

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bruiser wrote:
riverman wrote:

I'm astounded that no one jumped on this one. g
--riverman

I'm guessing that very few fourth graders read this bb. (G) bruce h

You'll get better results it you try typing "trigger finger" into that
box on google, btw.

Tired that, and got a lot of repetitive sites that talked about the
physiology and several treatment options, but none of them went so far
as to tell me if it was something that, once you got it, it was chronic
or if it ever went away for good on its own.

So I went to the doctor today (used my "I leave on Monday for Hong
Kong" card and got an immediate appointment with a hand specialist),
and he gave me lots of great info. Basically, he said that without any
sort of treatment, it might go away for good, it might go away for a
while, or it might hang around for a bit. Without knowing the real
underlying cause, it would be hard to tell. However, with a cortisone
injection it had about an 85% chance of going away and not returning.
If it did return and a second injection did no good, then surgery would
eliminate it for good.

So I had an injection, now my finger is sore as hell (as promised), but
word is that in a day or two, it should be gone, probably for good.

--riverman

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"riverman" wrote in message
ups.com...

So I had an injection, now my finger is sore as hell (as promised), but
word is that in a day or two, it should be gone, probably for good.

If you get too many of those injections, you could possibly end up
fingerless!

Op --who knows that "it" MUST refer to Myrons finger!--

--riverman

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bruiser wrote:
RW and Willi and the gang (Danl and Bevin) probably won't believe this but I'll
probably fish a little less than my normal "never stop fishing" M.O.

We'll see.


That's right. We'll see. I, for one, will believe it when I see it.
Anyone know how to calculate odds on this issue? If I were a bookie,
I'd be taking bets that Bruiser still fishes more than the rest of us.
And who would bet against that???
Bevin

Trigger Finger?
 

I bet you're right Bevin. I wouldn't want to see it any other way, though.
It's rare to see such consistent intensity and constant BSEG on one's
countenance simultaneously. It think its great that Bruce's hand has
recovered so well.

Danl

six days and counting...


"Bevin" wrote in message
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bruiser wrote:
RW and Willi and the gang (Danl and Bevin) probably won't believe this
but I'll
probably fish a little less than my normal "never stop fishing" M.O.

We'll see.


That's right. We'll see. I, for one, will believe it when I see it.
Anyone know how to calculate odds on this issue? If I were a bookie,
I'd be taking bets that Bruiser still fishes more than the rest of us.
And who would bet against that???
Bevin

Trigger Finger?
 

Danl wrote:
I bet you're right Bevin. I wouldn't want to see it any other way, though.
It's rare to see such consistent intensity and constant BSEG on one's
countenance simultaneously. It think its great that Bruce's hand has
recovered so well.

Danl

six days and counting...


I want to see Bruce and Chas' son Andy fish together sometime. That
could turn out to be quite entertaining! That enthusiasm and intensity
is contagious and fun to be around.

The last few times out with Jeff Miller, he showed me more of that
intensity than I had previously expected. His intensity has more of the
quality of a quiet, determination with alot of endurance.

Willi

Trigger Finger?
 

"Willi" wrote in message
...
Danl wrote:
I bet you're right Bevin. I wouldn't want to see it any other way,
though. It's rare to see such consistent intensity and constant BSEG on
one's countenance simultaneously. It think its great that Bruce's hand
has recovered so well.

Danl

six days and counting...


I want to see Bruce and Chas' son Andy fish together sometime. That
could turn out to be quite entertaining! That enthusiasm and intensity is
contagious and fun to be around.

Yes, it is. And from all accounts, Andy fishes most Brucefully. Maybe I'll
meet him somewhere along the line.


The last few times out with Jeff Miller, he showed me more of that
intensity than I had previously expected. His intensity has more of the
quality of a quiet, determination with alot of endurance.

Fishing jeffully (millerfully?) is more like quiet solitude with minimum
motion, punctuated by that eerie, slightly maniacal chortle as he sticks a
fish. Also very fun to be around.

Both of them will keep you out on the water till way past my bedtime.
Another good thing.

Danl

Trigger Finger?
 

Bevin wrote:
bruiser wrote:

RW and Willi and the gang (Danl and Bevin) probably won't believe this but I'll
probably fish a little less than my normal "never stop fishing" M.O.

We'll see.



That's right. We'll see. I, for one, will believe it when I see it.
Anyone know how to calculate odds on this issue? If I were a bookie,
I'd be taking bets that Bruiser still fishes more than the rest of us.
And who would bet against that???
Bevin


Bruce's hand is recovering. His energy and intensity are amazing and
inspiring, but I'd like to see him relax a bit with that hand. He should
be careful of injuring it again.

But you're probably right, Bevin. :-)

Bruce, are you bringing rods with fighting butts? It makes a big difference.

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