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Pat_RI June 1st, 2004 09:25 PM

Help with Smallies
 
I am going smallmouth fishing for the first time in Maine what type of lures
should I use? Do you fish for them in the same spots where I would think
largemouths would be? Any help would be appreciated.



Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers June 1st, 2004 09:46 PM

Help with Smallies
 

"Pat_RI" wrote in message
news:cG5vc.4014$eP.3667@lakeread01...
I am going smallmouth fishing for the first time in Maine what type of

lures
should I use? Do you fish for them in the same spots where I would think
largemouths would be? Any help would be appreciated.


"Typically", smallmouth will relate less to weeds and vegetation than
largemouth bass will. Areas with rocks and/or gravel seem to appeal more to
smallmouth, although timber, downed trees and stumps will hold both species.

On average, anything a largemouth would take will work for smallmouth, but
I'd have smaller lures available as well. Spinnerbaits, crankbaits, jigs
and soft plastics will work for smallies. I catch a lot on 3" and 4" Tube
jigs, 3/8 and 1/2 oz. spinnerbaits, and 5" soft plastic jerkbaits. 4" worms
work well as does anything that resembles a crayfish.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Bob June 1st, 2004 10:05 PM

Help with Smallies
 

"Pat_RI" wrote in message
news:cG5vc.4014$eP.3667@lakeread01...
I am going smallmouth fishing for the first time in Maine what type of

lures
should I use? Do you fish for them in the same spots where I would think
largemouths would be? Any help would be appreciated.


I have a lot of luck with in-line spinners of the Mepp's style. Also the
smaller minnow style of crankbaits, I prefer Rapala floaters in the #5 and
#7 size, but other brands will also work good.

I fish mostly streams and rivers, here they relate to rocks/gravel and
downed trees. I would imagine that lake fishing would be similar.

Cast far
Bob



Babbling Brook Photography June 1st, 2004 11:14 PM

Help with Smallies
 
I agree with Steve, stick with areas of rocks and rock drop-offs. I have
caught smallies on 9" rubber worms as well as jigs, just be ready for a
great fight when you do get a good one.

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"Pat_RI" wrote in message
news:cG5vc.4014$eP.3667@lakeread01...
I am going smallmouth fishing for the first time in Maine what type of

lures
should I use? Do you fish for them in the same spots where I would think
largemouths would be? Any help would be appreciated.





Pat_RI June 2nd, 2004 02:47 AM

Help with Smallies
 
How about Senkos and what about tpwater lures. Thanks for the input so far
it has been helpful.
"Babbling Brook Photography" wrote
in message ...
I agree with Steve, stick with areas of rocks and rock drop-offs. I have
caught smallies on 9" rubber worms as well as jigs, just be ready for a
great fight when you do get a good one.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Babbling Brook Photography
Quality Framed Photography of
the Great Outdoors.
30 Day Money Back Guarantee!
http://www.babblingbrookphotography.com
Email

"Pat_RI" wrote in message
news:cG5vc.4014$eP.3667@lakeread01...
I am going smallmouth fishing for the first time in Maine what type of

lures
should I use? Do you fish for them in the same spots where I would

think
largemouths would be? Any help would be appreciated.







Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers June 2nd, 2004 03:09 AM

Help with Smallies
 

"Pat_RI" wrote in message
news:1javc.4039$eP.382@lakeread01...
How about Senkos and what about tpwater lures. Thanks for the input so far
it has been helpful.


Senkos and topwater lures too will work under certain conditions as well,
senkos more often than topwater.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Marty June 2nd, 2004 05:57 AM

Help with Smallies
 

Pat_RI wrote in message
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How about Senkos and what about tpwater lures.


A definite YES to both.



G. M. Zimmermann June 2nd, 2004 09:24 AM

Help with Smallies
 
For Smallies that arein fairly shallow water, say less than 10' deep, I like
in-line spinners and minnow plugs. For deeper fish I like tube and twister
tail jigs. If the fish are holding tight to cover, I'm pitching a wacky
rigged senko as close to the cover as I can.
One thing about smallmouth is that they seem to enjoy bright colors, even
in clear water. My all-time favorite smallmouth color is some combo of
black/chartruce. My favorite color for twistertail jigs is chartruce with
silver glitter. A spinnerbait with a black & chart. skirt and a chart. blade
can be great, but a white skirt with a white blade can be good also.

-Zimmy

alwaysfishking June 2nd, 2004 02:22 PM

Help with Smallies
 
Senkos will work good, especially black, If you want to use topwaters, try
something with a yellow belly, I read somewhere that smallies will come up
as much as 20 feet to smack a yellow bellied topwater, don't know if it's
true but worth a try. Think it was in bassmaster. If fishing rock pile try a
silver buddy. I also caught a lunker smallie last year in a tourney using a
red bladed secret weapon spinner bait
"Pat_RI" wrote in message
news:1javc.4039$eP.382@lakeread01...
How about Senkos and what about tpwater lures. Thanks for the input so far
it has been helpful.
"Babbling Brook Photography"

wrote
in message ...
I agree with Steve, stick with areas of rocks and rock drop-offs. I have
caught smallies on 9" rubber worms as well as jigs, just be ready for a
great fight when you do get a good one.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Babbling Brook Photography
Quality Framed Photography of
the Great Outdoors.
30 Day Money Back Guarantee!
http://www.babblingbrookphotography.com
Email

"Pat_RI" wrote in message
news:cG5vc.4014$eP.3667@lakeread01...
I am going smallmouth fishing for the first time in Maine what type of

lures
should I use? Do you fish for them in the same spots where I would

think
largemouths would be? Any help would be appreciated.









Bob Rickard June 3rd, 2004 02:03 AM

Help with Smallies
 
I have over the years found that stream smallies have two preferences in
spinnerbaits, which may be the deadliest of all lures for them. About 1/3rd
of the time, they want all chartreuse, both bodies & blades, and they should
be the brightest chartreuse you can find. The other 2/3rd of the time, the
big majority, they want something as natural as possible (Baby Bass,
Tennessee Shad, etc.) with smaller Willowleafs or Indianas, singles or
tandems, as the smallies' moods indicate.
--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))


"G. M. Zimmermann" wrote in message
...
For Smallies that arein fairly shallow water, say less than 10' deep, I

like
in-line spinners and minnow plugs. For deeper fish I like tube and

twister
tail jigs. If the fish are holding tight to cover, I'm pitching a wacky
rigged senko as close to the cover as I can.
One thing about smallmouth is that they seem to enjoy bright colors,

even
in clear water. My all-time favorite smallmouth color is some combo of
black/chartruce. My favorite color for twistertail jigs is chartruce with
silver glitter. A spinnerbait with a black & chart. skirt and a chart.

blade
can be great, but a white skirt with a white blade can be good also.

-Zimmy




oldgoat June 4th, 2004 02:24 AM

Help with Smallies
 
I just got done on the Penobscot river in Main. They were a piece of cake to
catch.in the river riffles we caught them on black jigheads with a crawfish
colored grub, in the slackwater areas they were suckers for a small white
spinnerbait with a colorado blade. we also nailed some with a crawfish
imitation on a football jig. Good luck
"Pat_RI" wrote in message
news:cG5vc.4014$eP.3667@lakeread01...
I am going smallmouth fishing for the first time in Maine what type of

lures
should I use? Do you fish for them in the same spots where I would think
largemouths would be? Any help would be appreciated.





RichZ June 4th, 2004 03:18 AM

Help with Smallies
 
Oldgoat wrote:
I just got done on the Penobscot river in Main.

I love that piece of water. Rarely fish anything there but a 4" Fin-S,
unweighted.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing


Mudfish\(Co30\) June 4th, 2004 11:56 AM

Help with Smallies
 

"Pat_RI" wrote in message
news:cG5vc.4014$eP.3667@lakeread01...
I am going smallmouth fishing for the first time in Maine what type of

lures
should I use? Do you fish for them in the same spots where I would think
largemouths would be? Any help would be appreciated.


I would add that the breaks between rock and sand/mud
are great for Maine river smallies. Anywhere there is a change
in near shore bottom structure is promising. Deeps cuts along ledge
in the Kennebec and up along cut out banks are also good right now.
I haven't seen any fish in the spawn area's.

Firetiger or blue silver Rapala suspenders in the smaller sizes have been
working well (alewives and blueback herring are in the rivers as well
as elvers) . Deep Diving Rebel Craws cast upstream and dove down then
drifted along the ledges have been good to me the last week or so.
--
{{ MudFish{('

www.kennebecriverguide.com
"Careful with that Axe Eugene."




Sandon L. Joren June 4th, 2004 12:28 PM

Help with Smallies
 
Rich,
What would you be a throwing if fishing for Hudson River smallies? Let's just pretend the time of year was in about three weeks and let's say it was in the Kingston area.......smirk

--
Sandy Joren
You sound reasonable ... Time to up my medication.....
"RichZ" wrote in message ...
Oldgoat wrote:
I just got done on the Penobscot river in Main.

I love that piece of water. Rarely fish anything there but a 4" Fin-S,
unweighted.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing


Paul A. June 16th, 2004 09:29 AM

Help with Smallies. Rich Z.
 
Sandy Joren wrote;
Rich,
What would you be a throwing if fishing for Hudson River smallies?=A0
Let's just pretend the time of year was in about three weeks and let's
say it was in the Kingston area.......smirk
--
Sandy Joren
You sound reasonable ... Time to up my medication.....
"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Oldgoat wrote:
I just got done on the Penobscot river in Main.

I love that piece of water. Rarely fish anything there but a 4" Fin-S,
unweighted.
---------------------------------------------------
Thought I'd push this the thread TTT.


RichZ June 17th, 2004 03:23 AM

Help with Smallies
 
Didn't mean to ignore your message. I saw it when I DL'd that night, went
away for a few days and couldn't find it when I came back.


Truthfully, if the nut bed in the back end of Rondout is developed, I'd
start there, fishing for LM. I often topwater some smallies back in there
too, off the channel edge on the outside of the weedbed just outside the
nut almost across from Lou's Boat Basin).

Other than that, I'd crank a shad or parrot colored crankbait -- something
tha dives to maybe 7 or 8 feet -- on every piece of rock that extends out
from the bank between Port Ewen and Catskill. Alternate that with a
jerkbait or topwater.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing



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