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mark tinsky typed:
I ve always been plagued with shoe laces coming loose once or twice
while fishing. The problem got worse after my intregal gravel guards
broke. One day I hit upon this idea and so far it s worked well.
After lacing up thru the last speed buckle I do the first part
of a shoe lace tie( without the bow) and thread down thru the
bottom two speed buckles and then tie off at the bottom one.

Perhaps with the knot being in the middle of the shoe it s not
catching on things, also boot stays tighter as it s gripped at top
and middle. Anyway seems to work for me for what it s worth ...

Mr Siedman's "rabbit goes around the hole twice" also works very well.
--
TL,
Tim
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:27:04 -0700, mark tinsky
wrote:

I ve always been plagued with shoe laces coming loose once or twice
while fishing. The problem got worse after my intregal gravel guards
broke. One day I hit upon this idea and so far it s worked well.
After lacing up thru the last speed buckle I do the first part of
a shoe lace tie( without the bow) and thread down thru the bottom
two speed buckles and then tie off at the bottom one.

Perhaps with the knot being in the middle of the shoe it s not
catching on things, also boot stays tighter as it s gripped at top
and middle. Anyway seems to work for me for what it s worth ...

MT

Sounds like good advice. However, try a pair of Chotas; no shoe
laces. Instead the "laces" are elastic cord with an adjustable
stopper. They are the only wading boots I'll ever buy not only
because of the easy lacing (no knots), but because they go on and off
so easily. Lots of boots I've owned over the years had to be wet to
put on. Not so with the Chotas. Also, the studs are removable for
those times when you *can't* have studs (i.e. drift boat).

Dave (still in Maine, recovering from a big lunch.....)

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I ve always been plagued with shoe laces coming loose once or twice
while fishing. The problem got worse after my intregal gravel guards
broke. One day I hit upon this idea and so far it s worked well.
After lacing up thru the last speed buckle I do the first part of
a shoe lace tie( without the bow) and thread down thru the bottom
two speed buckles and then tie off at the bottom one.

Perhaps with the knot being in the middle of the shoe it s not
catching on things, also boot stays tighter as it s gripped at top
and middle. Anyway seems to work for me for what it s worth ...

MT

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mark tinsky wrote:
I ve always been plagued with shoe laces coming loose once or twice
while fishing. ...

I thought this was gonna be an aglet thread. ;-)

I agree with Louie, the Chota elastic laces are a great
innovation in wading shoe design. I had to ruin a pair
of elastic laces before I figured out how they worked
but the replacements were cheap and easy to install.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Tim J." wrote in news:12f8rkbisbvsv39
@news.supernews.com:

mark tinsky typed:
I ve always been plagued with shoe laces coming loose once or twice
while fishing. The problem got worse after my intregal gravel guards
broke. One day I hit upon this idea and so far it s worked well.
After lacing up thru the last speed buckle I do the first part
of a shoe lace tie( without the bow) and thread down thru the
bottom two speed buckles and then tie off at the bottom one.

Perhaps with the knot being in the middle of the shoe it s not
catching on things, also boot stays tighter as it s gripped at top
and middle. Anyway seems to work for me for what it s worth ...

Mr Siedman's "rabbit goes around the hole twice" also works very well.


I'm pretty sure I read that one in the Klutz Book of Knots.

Thread's a little bit of a letdown for me. Given the subject, I thought
for sure I would be reading of aglets.

There, that's better!
--
Scott
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Thanx Dave
May try a pair next year MT

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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:39:36 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

I had to ruin a pair
of elastic laces before I figured out how they worked
but the replacements were cheap and easy to install.

How the hell could you ruin the laces? My first pair lasted longer
than any shoe I've ever tried, and just plum wore out before tradin'
'em in for a new pair (three years ago from Waldo hisself). Gonna
save those old laces, however. d;o)

I'm at Lakewood fishing the Rapid. Fished only this morning - few
salmon all greater than 14 inches, on dries, but no brookies. I have
the river to myself. Only one other fisherman.

Dave

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On 29 Aug 2006 19:50:20 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Thread's a little bit of a letdown for me.

No pun intended, though, right?

Given the subject, I thought
for sure I would be reading of aglets.

Tie and burn if you're in the woods. Throw 'em away otherwise.

Dave

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I had to ruin a pair
of elastic laces before I figured out how they worked
but the replacements were cheap and easy to install.

How the hell could you ruin the laces? ...

I tried to tighten them the same way I would regular
shoe laces and I shredded them into tiny rubber bands.
Once I figured out that I only had to put a little
tension on them to hold just fine, me and the elastic
laces have got along famously.

Sounds like you're having fun up there. Good for you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Ken Fortenberry wrote in news:YJ0Jg.12953
:

I thought this was gonna be an aglet thread. ;-)

Me too, Ken. Liberal minds think alike.

--
Scott
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote ...

However, try a pair of Chotas; no shoe
laces. Instead the "laces" are elastic cord with an adjustable
stopper. They are the only wading boots I'll ever buy not only
because of the easy lacing (no knots), but because they go on and off
so easily.

How easily? With 'laces' of this sort, I worry about that 8-inch deep
tar-like muck on some river banks -- will these stay on?

Dan
....who possibly just needs to learn not to step in that crap....

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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:31:26 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Sounds like you're having fun up there.

There are only three of us in camp - one other flyfisher, and a young
lady, daughter of a departed Lakewood regular. Fish are hitting
nymps, drys and streamers. Best late August fishing I've ever had on
the river.

Remember my offer...........

Dave

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mark tinsky wrote:
I ve always been plagued with shoe laces coming loose once or twice
while fishing.

After tying a usual shoe lace bow I make an additional overhand knot
with the loops to form a square knot. It never comes apart.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"Daniel-San" (Rot13) wrote in message
om...

How easily? With 'laces' of this sort, I worry about that 8-inch deep
tar-like muck on some river banks -- will these stay on?

Yes

...who possibly just needs to learn not to step in that crap....

Yes

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"rw" wrote in message
m...

After tying a usual shoe lace bow I make an additional overhand knot with
the loops to form a square knot. It never comes apart.

The hell with how you tie your laces, how was Alaska?

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Wayne Knight wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...


After tying a usual shoe lace bow I make an additional overhand knot with
the loops to form a square knot. It never comes apart.


The hell with how you tie your laces, how was Alaska?



See abpf.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"Scott Seidman" wrote:
aglets.

Crossword puzzles or just general trivia?

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"rw" wrote in message
m...

See abpf.


Very nice. But what did y'all catch the tent on?

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Daniel-San wrote:
"Dave LaCourse" wrote ...
However, try a pair of Chotas; no shoe
laces. Instead the "laces" are elastic cord with an adjustable
stopper. They are the only wading boots I'll ever buy not only
because of the easy lacing (no knots), but because they go on and off
so easily.

How easily? With 'laces' of this sort, I worry about that 8-inch deep
tar-like muck on some river banks -- will these stay on?

I had the same worry. I'm meticulous about pulling the laces
real tight on my wading boots and I ruined a pair of Chota
cords doing it before I discovered they *are* in fact tight,
as tight as the most tightly pulled boot laces, with just a
/little/ tug on the elastic. I highly recommend Chota wading
boots, best I've ever owned.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"mark tinsky" wrote in message
...
I ve always been plagued with shoe laces coming loose once or twice
while fishing. The problem got worse after my intregal gravel guards
broke. One day I hit upon this idea and so far it s worked well.
After lacing up thru the last speed buckle I do the first part of
a shoe lace tie( without the bow) and thread down thru the bottom
two speed buckles and then tie off at the bottom one.

Perhaps with the knot being in the middle of the shoe it s not
catching on things, also boot stays tighter as it s gripped at top
and middle. Anyway seems to work for me for what it s worth ...

MT

I was once told by an elder experienced fly-fisherman to always lace & tie
the wading boots wet, pulling from the center of the crosses.
I also use Ian's Secure Shoelace Knot, actually seen it done by backpackers
for their hiking boots. http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm
fwiw,
-tom

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"Stan Gula" wrote in news:LhcJg.376$XK4.354
@trndny07:

"Scott Seidman" wrote:
aglets.

Crossword puzzles or just general trivia?




The two are blurred together in my world. They're somewhere to the left of
my happy little tree.


--
Scott
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Okay, I've got an old pair of sandals and I'm cheap. I've bought a set
of felt replacement soles, taking them and the sandals down to the shoe
repair (I don't have a grinder to grind down the sole of the sandal)
and Bob's your uncle, I'll have wading sandals by this weekend.
Frank Reid

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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
...

http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

I am dumbfounded by the amount of thought this guy has put into shoelaces.

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"Stan Gula" wrote in message
news:6GhJg.823$wI5.392@trndny04...
"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
...

http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

I am dumbfounded by the amount of thought this guy has put into shoelaces.

Agree, he also takes credit for a lot of what was done years ago, some shoe
tying techniques I've read in Boy's Life magazine when I was a Cub Scout
back in the 60's. That was the only good illustration I could find on the
double shoelace knot.
-tom

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"Frank Reid" wrote in
oups.com:

I'll have wading sandals by this weekend.


I wait with bated breath for the ensuing story!

Will Frank manage to drop his rod tube from a height of 8 feet onto his
unprotected toe?

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:07:29 GMT, "Daniel-San"
(Rot13) wrote:

How easily? With 'laces' of this sort, I worry about that 8-inch deep
tar-like muck on some river banks -- will these stay on?

On a recent trip to Labrador I walked down river about a mile and the
tundra type/peat moss trail had lots of little mud holes in it and it
was easier to walk through the stuff than around it. Some of these
holes were over the top of the gravel guards. I had no problems with
the Chotas coming unlaced/untied. Just can't happen. In addition to
their excellent lacing technique, the fact that you can put them on
easily when they are dry is, of course, a plus. And, they are a good
walking shoe.

Dave

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I'll have wading sandals by this weekend.

I wait with baited breath for the ensuing story!

Will Frank manage to drop his rod tube from a height of 8 feet onto his
unprotected toe?

Well, the shoe repair guy wouldn't/couldn't grind the sole down so I'm
off to find a grinder to handle the job. Cool, more powertools.

Frank "Lefty" Reid

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"Frank Reid" wrote in
ups.com:

I'll have wading sandals by this weekend.

I wait with baited breath for the ensuing story!

Will Frank manage to drop his rod tube from a height of 8 feet onto his
unprotected toe?

Well, the shoe repair guy wouldn't/couldn't grind the sole down so I'm
off to find a grinder to handle the job. Cool, more powertools.

Frank "Lefty" Reid



Perhaps you can burn the sole off.

--
Scott
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"What? Me, an enabler??"

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Wayne Knight wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

See abpf.



Very nice. But what did y'all catch the tent on?

You'd have to ask Bruce, but I know purple was working for him.

He left his tent unstaked for a moment one morning, to get a precious
cup of coffee I suppose, and it blew out into a slough. It was funny
because Bruce is such a perfectionist about camping. He always had his
**** together (except for a green wading belt, which he eventually found
after much searching).

I, on the other hand ... thank God for Danl. I ended up using his spare
waders, his eyeglasses case, and his Petzl. I even have a Harry Potter
book, in very poor condition, that was supposed to go to him. I lost my
camera for one sickening half hour -- eventually found it in my left
wader leg.

What else? Three broken rods; Danl losing his glasses (twice); Bevin's
and Bruce's Mr. Toad's Wild Ride through the sweeper channel; missing
the takeout, which was the last feasible campsite, and getting towed
back by a couple of natives. It was an epic trip.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...
Okay, I've got an old pair of sandals and I'm cheap. I've bought a set
of felt replacement soles, taking them and the sandals down to the shoe
repair (I don't have a grinder to grind down the sole of the sandal)
and Bob's your uncle, I'll have wading sandals by this weekend.
Frank Reid


Might be cheaper to buy new ones.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...ubcat_id=12022
-tom

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On 30 Aug 2006 20:50:43 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

"Frank Reid" wrote in
oups.com:

I'll have wading sandals by this weekend.

I wait with baited breath for the ensuing story!

Will Frank manage to drop his rod tube from a height of 8 feet onto his
unprotected toe?

Well, the shoe repair guy wouldn't/couldn't grind the sole down so I'm
off to find a grinder to handle the job. Cool, more powertools.

Frank "Lefty" Reid



Perhaps you can burn the sole off.

Um, you're talking to Frank, remember?

/daytripper (don't wanna read about his self-immolation, thanks ;-)

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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:58:36 -0600, rw
wrote:

Wayne Knight wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

See abpf.



Very nice. But what did y'all catch the tent on?

You'd have to ask Bruce, but I know purple was working for him.

He left his tent unstaked for a moment one morning, to get a precious
cup of coffee I suppose, and it blew out into a slough. It was funny
because Bruce is such a perfectionist about camping. He always had his
**** together (except for a green wading belt, which he eventually found
after much searching).

I, on the other hand ... thank God for Danl. I ended up using his spare
waders, his eyeglasses case, and his Petzl. I even have a Harry Potter
book, in very poor condition, that was supposed to go to him. I lost my
camera for one sickening half hour -- eventually found it in my left
wader leg.

What else? Three broken rods; Danl losing his glasses (twice); Bevin's
and Bruce's Mr. Toad's Wild Ride through the sweeper channel; missing
the takeout, which was the last feasible campsite, and getting towed
back by a couple of natives. It was an epic trip.

Please please please someone in your group start writing up the details!

/daytripper (my vicarious living needs a fix! ;-)

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I'll have wading sandals by this weekend.

I wait with baited breath for the ensuing story!

Will Frank manage to drop his rod tube from a height of 8 feet onto his
unprotected toe?

Well, the shoe repair guy wouldn't/couldn't grind the sole down so I'm
off to find a grinder to handle the job. Cool, more powertools.

Frank "Lefty" Reid

Perhaps you can burn the sole off.

Um, you're talking to Frank, remember?

/daytripper (don't wanna read about his self-immolation, thanks ;-)

Hey, I'm Air Force, remember? Us Air Force guys invented that there
Full Immolation Turn.
Then again, I got the machette sharpened up. Could shave the sole with
that. New week wacker's got a brush blade on it. Could try that.
I've access to LOX. Could freeze the bottom of the sole and hit it
with a hammer. Any other ideas?
Frank Reid

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Might be cheaper to buy new ones.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...ubcat_id=12022
-tom

"We are sorry but Wading Sandals Felt Sole is no longer available."
Crap.
Frank Reid

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Frank Reid wrote:
Might be cheaper to buy new ones.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...ubcat_id=12022
-tom

"We are sorry but Wading Sandals Felt Sole is no longer available."
Crap.

Searched around. This is what I bought.
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/pro...andals-For-Men
I got the last size 10's they had.
Frank Reid

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"Frank Reid" wrote in
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Any other ideas?


Rub the sole in gravy, and dip it in a tank of pirahna. Five cow-
skeletonizing units should do the job nicely.

--
Scott
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"Frank Reid" wrote in message
ups.com...

Frank Reid wrote:
Might be cheaper to buy new ones.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...ubcat_id=12022
-tom

"We are sorry but Wading Sandals Felt Sole is no longer available."
Crap.

Searched around. This is what I bought.
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/pro...andals-For-Men
I got the last size 10's they had.
Frank Reid


That's good Frank,
I mentioned that it might be cheaper to buy new ones when I visited a
cobbler last week to have my Timberline boat shoes resoled. I got two
estimates over $60. I bought new ones for $39.oo at a Shoe Outlet.
-tom

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote ...
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:07:29 GMT, "Daniel-San" wrote:

How easily? With 'laces' of this sort, I worry about that 8-inch deep
tar-like muck on some river banks -- will these stay on?

On a recent trip to Labrador I walked down river about a mile and the
tundra type/peat moss trail had lots of little mud holes in it and it
was easier to walk through the stuff than around it. Some of these
holes were over the top of the gravel guards. I had no problems with
the Chotas coming unlaced/untied. Just can't happen. In addition to
their excellent lacing technique, the fact that you can put them on
easily when they are dry is, of course, a plus. And, they are a good
walking shoe.

Dave

Dave, Ken and Wayne,

Thanks for the info. I think a new pair of boots is on the agenda for next
summer, and I'll definitely have a look at these.

Dan

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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:52:52 GMT, "Daniel-San"
(Rot13) wrote:

Dave, Ken and Wayne,

Thanks for the info. I think a new pair of boots is on the agenda for next
summer, and I'll definitely have a look at these.

Yes, at times it is good to listen to the old farts, and we three
qualify.

d;o)

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In article ,
Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:07:29 GMT, "Daniel-San"
(Rot13) wrote:

How easily? With 'laces' of this sort, I worry about that 8-inch deep
tar-like muck on some river banks -- will these stay on?

On a recent trip to Labrador I walked down river about a mile and the
tundra type/peat moss trail had lots of little mud holes in it and it
was easier to walk through the stuff than around it. Some of these
holes were over the top of the gravel guards. I had no problems with
the Chotas coming unlaced/untied. Just can't happen. In addition to
their excellent lacing technique, the fact that you can put them on
easily when they are dry is, of course, a plus. And, they are a good
walking shoe.

Dave

I do love the Chota's I bought before Montana last year but the first
set of laces lasted about three days in one boot. No clue why. Chota was
happy to replace the laces and the new pair has lasted fine. Great boots