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I have a coworker who was born and raised in the UP. He's also a fly
fisherman. He mentioned that the best fly to have in your box for this
time of year would be Mickey Finns, sizes 4-10. Will start tying now.
Frank Reid

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On 9/1/06 2:03 PM, in article
, "Frank Reid"
wrote:

I have a coworker who was born and raised in the UP. He's also a fly
fisherman. He mentioned that the best fly to have in your box for this
time of year would be Mickey Finns, sizes 4-10. Will start tying now.
Frank Reid

In my not-really-all-THAT-extensive experience up nort', the maxim (told to
me by more than one with a LOT of experience up nort') that brookies like
the color red has not been disproved.

That came out like crap. Let me try again.

Tie up the Mickey Finns. Put more red than yellow in 'em. See you in a
couple of weeks.

:-)

Bill
(I'll be the one fishing Royal coachman wets. :-)

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Frank Reid wrote:
I have a coworker who was born and raised in the UP. He's also a fly
fisherman. He mentioned that the best fly to have in your box for this
time of year would be Mickey Finns, sizes 4-10. Will start tying now.


Far be it from me to argue with a native born U.P. fly fisher (a rara
avis indeed, in my experience) and I tied the first of what will be at
least a dozen Mickey Finns myself last night (to be continued this
evening after a visit to the Reinke Brothers to stock up on more hooks,
bucktail, ziplock bags, plastic bottles, and whatnot), but don't
neglect the other flies I mentioned to you. Um......well, you can pass
on the Pass Lakes......I've got about three dozen. :)

Elk hair caddis, in particular, are worthy of your attention. Roger's
confirmation, earlier today, that the ehc is the crown jewel in the
Scandanavian arsenal of anti-trout weaponry came as a welcome reminder
that the dozen I tied earlier this week will by no means be sufficient
to assure peace of mind for a week in the land where a boy can't take a
**** without hitting a trout. Truth be told, my admittedly scandalous
love affair with the Pass Lake has as much to do with durability and a
lifetime supply of fine black chenille as it does with its indisputable
efficacy, and is of relatively recent vintage. Well, recent in terms
of fish caught, as opposed to wasted years in an urban setting, anyway.
Prior to moving to Milwaukee (which is to say back in my trout-bum
years) I caught more fish (trout and/or otherwise) on ehcs than on all
other flies (including, if only barely, Pass Lakes) combined.
Hm......think I'll tie up another couple dozen this weekend. What
else......oh yeah, none of my local vendors has any peacock sword. If
you (or anyone else we expect to see) has the time to tie up some
Spruce Flies, I'm sure we could work out an equitable arrangement of
some sort. I don't remember whether I mentioned Royal Coachman
streamers. I should have. Hornbergs.......don't forget those.

Checked Weather.com this morning. Ten day forecast for Marquette says
showers, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Hmph.....what the **** do they
know? Anyway, trout LIKE water......right?

Let's see.......um......oh yeah if you can (I haven't checked), it
would be a good idea to get your Michigan fishing license (and don't
forget the trout stamp) online before arrival.....this will save a
precious hour or so. The nearest trout stream is less than a mile from
the airport......Marquette is 15 or so.

O.k., that's all.......for now.

Wolfgang
um......oh yeah, you're living in iowa, right? have you checked with
tsa about bringing a suckling pig as carry on? :)

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um......oh yeah, you're living in iowa, right? have you checked with
tsa about bringing a suckling pig as carry on? :)

I'll bring the NEBRASKA pig if you bring a sleeping bag for me. By the
way, if the TSA has seen any Monty Python, they may confiscate it.
Then again, I could smuggle the pig in my sleeping bag and tell them I
got breakfast at IHop.
I've been tying some micky finns, black nose dace, Electric Goats, and
assorted other streamers. Never fished streamers much, so want to try
some on this trip.
By the way, need body color, wing color, and size of the standard
caddis up there this time of year. I've got a bunch of Tom
Littleton's Coyote Uglies. That's my favorite caddis. Just want to
get the color right.
Frank Reid

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Frank Reid wrote:
um......oh yeah, you're living in iowa, right? have you checked with
tsa about bringing a suckling pig as carry on? :)

I'll bring the NEBRASKA pig if you bring a sleeping bag for me.

Well, technically, John is bringing your sleeping bag......but only
because I threatened to take up my Westconsin/U.P. travelogue where we
left off last year, but what the hell, pork is pork, ainna?

By the way, if the TSA has seen any Monty Python,

Judging by the sense of humor I've seen them display, I'd say there are
two chances.....slim and fat.

they may confiscate it.

Well, I've never seen a greased pig.....in an airport. Take
pictures.....LOTS of pictures! :)

Then again, I could smuggle the pig in my sleeping bag and tell them I
got breakfast at IHop.

Yeah, that would account for the smell......and the sounds could easily
be mistaken for some sort of gastrointestinal distress.

I've been tying some micky finns, black nose dace, Electric Goats, and
assorted other streamers. Never fished streamers much, so want to try
some on this trip.

Oddly enough, I've had some truly awesome days fishing streamers on
U.P. streams that I could never match anywhere else. This COULD be
explained by the fact that I pretty much gave up on intensive streamer
fishing after discovering that I could actually catch fish fairly
consistently with dries, but the streamers have nevertheless continued
to serve me well when I trot them out up there. I know I've mentioned
it here before, on several occasions, but I really do get a kick out of
watching trout come up out of the water and then diving DOWN onto my
fly. It doesn't happen all the time, but the expectation is, in
itself, enough to keep me dragging streamers through those streams.

By the way, need body color, wing color, and size of the standard
caddis up there this time of year.

The fact is that I've used just about every combination of wing and
body color imaginable......and I've never noticed any difference in
performance......size, too. These days, I work with 14s.....whatever
dubbing comes readily to hand.....and the lightest elk hair I can find,
for visibility. You can't go wrong with tan/olive/gray dubbing.
Bleached elk will satisfy both you and the fish.

I've got a bunch of Tom Littleton's Coyote Uglies.

Tell me about it. I spent the better part of a day back in April with
him and Mak.......um.....oh.......you mean flies, huh? :)

That's my favorite caddis. Just want to
get the color right.

In all seriousness, I really never have noticed that it makes a
difference.

Wolfgang

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Tie up the Mickey Finns. Put more red than yellow in 'em. See you in a
couple of weeks.

Will do. Oh, Sep 15th is the first day of ruffled grouse season (the
call the "parkers"). I think I'll take the other bits of yellow, or
international orange, and wear it. Maybe I'll get my daughter's
Syracuse fleece.
Frank Reid

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"Frank Reid" wrote in message
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Will do. Oh, Sep 15th is the first day of ruffled grouse season (the
call the "parkers"). I think I'll take the other bits of yellow, or
international orange, and wear it. Maybe I'll get my daughter's
Syracuse fleece.

Just stay where I can see you g

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Wayne Knight wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message
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Will do. Oh, Sep 15th is the first day of ruffled grouse season (the
call the "parkers"). I think I'll take the other bits of yellow, or
international orange, and wear it. Maybe I'll get my daughter's
Syracuse fleece.


Just stay where I can see you g



uh oh... cheneyphobia added to grabber/biter/eaters and fear of flying...

but, i'm starting to get stoked about the yoop redux and seeing it in
sept. my only other time up there was in may, several years ago...one
of the best trout adventures i've had, thanks to wolfgang's hospitality
and knowledge. guess i need to begin thinking about packing...anyone
located the closest fly shop to the marquette airport?

jeff

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jeff wrote:
Wayne Knight wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...

Will do. Oh, Sep 15th is the first day of ruffled grouse season (the
call the "parkers"). I think I'll take the other bits of yellow, or
international orange, and wear it. Maybe I'll get my daughter's
Syracuse fleece.


Just stay where I can see you g



uh oh... cheneyphobia

Big woods up there.....lots of room. Chances of getting Cheneyd are
vanishingly small. Odds are we won't even hear any gunfire.

added to grabber/biter/eaters

Mostly gone by this time of year.

and fear of flying...

Flying is nothing to worry about. It's the parts where you're close to
the ground that.......well, you know. :)

but, i'm starting to get stoked about the yoop redux and seeing it in
sept. my only other time up there was in may, several years ago...one
of the best trout adventures i've had, thanks to wolfgang's hospitality
and knowledge.

See, this is precisely the sort of thoughtless crap that is ruining
this place. It could take my hard-won reputation weeks to recover from
this little fit of unprovoked praise! :(

Anyway, if my research these past few weeks is any indication, we're
going to see some streams this time around that will make us forever
rue the time we wasted on that last jaunt.

guess i need to begin thinking about packing...anyone
located the closest fly shop to the marquette airport?

Well, if it's just flies you're interested in, you're going to be
sitting next to the best fly shop you're likely to encounter for an
hour or more twixt Detroit and Marquette. When you guys touch down,
I'll create a diversion and you and John can dry gulch him at baggage
claim.

If there's anything else you need, I've found indications of fly shops
of some sort in Marquette but none of them has their own web presence,
so I can't tell you much about them.

Wolfgang

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guess i need to begin thinking about packing...anyone
located the closest fly shop to the marquette airport?

Well, if it's just flies you're interested in, you're going to be
sitting next to the best fly shop you're likely to encounter for an
hour or more twixt Detroit and Marquette. When you guys touch down,
I'll create a diversion and you and John can dry gulch him at baggage
claim.

Hey, listen, I'm packing light, so I'll only have about a thousand
flies with me. I will bring a small tying kit with me in case we find
something that works real well.
Hey, Wolfy, what are the colors (wing and body) and size on the caddis
up there?
Frank Reid

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Hey, Wolfy, what are the colors (wing and body) and size on the caddis
up there?

Scratch that, just saw your other post.
Frank

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"jeff" wrote in message
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...anyone located the closest fly shop to the marquette airport?

What passed for a flyshop is in a strip shopping center on the highway
coming into town on the west side.

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"jeff" wrote in message
news:4RfKg.7796$Zm1.2381@dukeread02...
Wayne Knight wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...

Will do. Oh, Sep 15th is the first day of ruffled grouse season (the
call the "parkers"). I think I'll take the other bits of yellow, or
international orange, and wear it. Maybe I'll get my daughter's
Syracuse fleece.


Just stay where I can see you g

uh oh... cheneyphobia added to grabber/biter/eaters and fear of flying...

For someone with a greatfear of flyin', you sure travel a lot above terra
firma!

jeff

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Frank Reid wrote:
Hey, Wolfy, what are the colors (wing and body) and size on the caddis
up there?

Scratch that, just saw your other post.

Well, I guess I should say a word or two about size. In the early
days, I used to tie caddis on everything from 22s to 4s. Over the
years, and quite without any conscious plan, I slowly wittled the
selection down. These days I rarely use anything but 14s. Bodies are
sparsely dubbed, and a I use very fine copper wire, counter-wound to
protect the hackle. This has made them much more durable without
significantly affecting their bouyancy.

Wolfgang

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Flying is nothing to worry about. It's the parts where you're close to
the ground that.......well, you know. :)

One fundamental rule known by all pilots is: Fly in the middle of the
air. Stay away from the edges. They cause trouble.

vince

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vincent p. norris wrote:
Flying is nothing to worry about. It's the parts where you're close to
the ground that.......well, you know. :)

One fundamental rule known by all pilots is: Fly in the middle of the
air. Stay away from the edges. They cause trouble.

Something that most of us intuit at one level or another, I
guess......but sound advice that needs to be stated explicilty from
time to time.

How ironic though, that so many of us take to the air so readily these
days to rush off to what's left of the edges.

Wolfgang
who will be traveling at a somewhat more lesiurely pace come thursday
night, but will be knee deep in some nice cool edge by 7:00 on the
following morning. :)

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message

I've got a bunch of Tom Littleton's Coyote Uglies.

Tell me about it. I spent the better part of a day back in April with
him and Mak.......um.....oh.......you mean flies, huh? :)

fecker!

by way of hijacking this thread, I spent a pleasant evening
sitting in the rain with Mr. and Mrs Makela last night
(along with my beloved spouse) watching James Taylor
do his thing. Weather quite similar to our outing in the spring, Wolfie,
except JT sings better than Mike and I fish.

Tom

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who will be traveling at a somewhat more lesiurely pace come thursday
night, but will be knee deep in some nice cool edge by 7:00 on the
following morning. :)

Well, at least gas prices have dropped. We're spending 2.46 here (10%
ethanol). A 50 cent drop in prices in less than 6 weeks is really nice
(but don't get used to it).
Frank Reid

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Well, I guess I should say a word or two about size. In the early
days, I used to tie caddis on everything from 22s to 4s. Over the
years, and quite without any conscious plan, I slowly wittled the
selection down. These days I rarely use anything but 14s. Bodies are
sparsely dubbed, and a I use very fine copper wire, counter-wound to
protect the hackle. This has made them much more durable without
significantly affecting their bouyancy.

Will tie some. 14? Damn, most of mine are 16-18. Except for the
October Orange Caddis thats a 6X long #2. Hmm, looking in my box, I've
only got two dozen of those left. I've been slacking off on my tying.
Frank Reid

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Frank Reid wrote:
who will be traveling at a somewhat more lesiurely pace come thursday
night, but will be knee deep in some nice cool edge by 7:00 on the
following morning. :)


Well, at least gas prices have dropped. We're spending 2.46 here (10%
ethanol). A 50 cent drop in prices in less than 6 weeks is really nice
(but don't get used to it).
Frank Reid


so, it'll be, what, only 3.30 or so in the yoop? it's 2.69
hereabouts...paid 3.02 just 10 days ago. market economies are very,
very strange when it comes to gas prices around here.

jeff

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Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:


For someone with a greatfear of flyin', you sure travel a lot above terra
firma!






tough to get to those far away fishing holes in a hurry, or as
efficiently, otherwise. plus, it provides a good excuse for drinking in
the morning hours. actually, i'm doing a bit better with the flight
fright and haven't needed as much liquid courage recently...though it
may simply be that, as i age, my sphincter has more important work than
grasping the seat on the plane and i'm therefore not as much, uh, on edge.

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jeff wrote:
Frank Reid wrote:
who will be traveling at a somewhat more lesiurely pace come thursday
night, but will be knee deep in some nice cool edge by 7:00 on the
following morning. :)


Well, at least gas prices have dropped. We're spending 2.46 here (10%
ethanol). A 50 cent drop in prices in less than 6 weeks is really nice
(but don't get used to it).
Frank Reid


so, it'll be, what, only 3.30 or so in the yoop? it's 2.69
hereabouts...paid 3.02 just 10 days ago. market economies are very,
very strange when it comes to gas prices around here.

jeff

I saw $2.72 here in southeast Curdistan yesterday......lowest in
several weeks. This is a bit lower than it was when John and I left
here last year for the inaugural UPYERS. In fact, it's just about what
the price was in Baraga, on the res, and 10-20 cents lower than
everywhere else we went in the western U.P. If we pool our financial
resources (which, if you think about it, are bound to be considerably
more substantial than our collective wits) we should be o.k.

Meanwhile, it begins to look as if we may not have to mug Frank after
all. I've been tying like a madman for the past three weeks......THIS
TIME, I've been telling myself, I WILL NOT arrive (after ten months
prior notice) bereft of useable bugs and be reduced to rifling my
friends' fly boxes while they are off in the outhouse.....um.....though
I guess I WILL kinda miss the adrenaline rush. Anyway, I've been
enveloped in a dense cloud of fur, feathers, yarns, floss, chenille,
wire, pointy steel and whatnot for about 21 days. Sensibly, I think, I
paused briefly today to swamp out the car and begin looking for the
spoor of various bits of camping and fishing gear. What should present
itself to my startled and decidely bemused gaze? About fifteen fly
boxes that I haven't laid eyes on for the last twelve or thirteen
years! Hoo boy! Even BEFORE Wayne, Bill and George arrive, we're
going to be in possession of more fishooks than existed in all of
Michigan (well, what would become Michigan, anyway) prior to the 16th
century C.E.!

Wolfgang
oh, by the way, in roughly 109 hours i'll be catching my first brookie
of the day (and the trip for that matter) just about the time john is
trying to convince the border patrol that he IS SO an american, and you
and frank are enjoying your first anal probes of the day. :)

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Good news on the flies. I had a family emergency that almost swamped
my trip. Been tying, but have a couple of other issues to deal with.


Wolfgang
oh, by the way, in roughly 109 hours i'll be catching my first brookie
of the day (and the trip for that matter) just about the time john is
trying to convince the border patrol that he IS SO an american, and you
and frank are enjoying your first anal probes of the day. :)

You have your fun your way, we'll have our fun our way.
Frank Reid

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Frank Reid wrote:
Good news on the flies. I had a family emergency that almost swamped
my trip.

"Almost" makes it sound like you've got it under control. Good news
for you and for us.

Been tying, but have a couple of other issues to deal with.

Do what you gotta do. We'll muddle through somehow.



Wolfgang
oh, by the way, in roughly 109 hours i'll be catching my first brookie
of the day (and the trip for that matter) just about the time john is
trying to convince the border patrol that he IS SO an american, and you
and frank are enjoying your first anal probes of the day. :)

You have your fun your way, we'll have our fun our way.

O.k........um.....I don't want to see the pictures. :(

Wolfgang
who firmly believes that national security is, as it should be, a
private matter between a man and his country.

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"Frank Reid" wrote in message
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I have a coworker who was born and raised in the UP. He's also a fly
fisherman. He mentioned that the best fly to have in your box for this
time of year would be Mickey Finns, sizes 4-10. Will start tying now.
Frank Reid

Well, I am definitely bringing a Mickey Finn - in fact, it's the first one I
ever tied....

What 'I' have been tying is a bunch a wooly buggers for Wolfgang, he
witnessed the efficacy of them at Grandfather Falls. I am also bringing a
bunch of buggers that I tie for the local rivers....smallmouth.

BUT - I have found them effective on large browns and steelhead.

In fact, the largest fish I have ever hooked have been below the falls that
I will not name anymore. I mean, I was laughing so hard that I did not even
think to set the hook. Twice. Of course the largest fish I have ever caught
were on the Madison but hooked?, well...

It's the "Spend-a-Day Marina' boys!!!

john

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What 'I' have been tying is a bunch a wooly buggers for Wolfgang, he
witnessed the efficacy of them at Grandfather Falls. I am also bringing a
bunch of buggers that I tie for the local rivers....smallmouth.

I need to tie some buggers. I was actually putting away my tying kit
last night and drowning my sorrows in a half a gallon of Rocky Road.
I'll do that tonight. Tie the buggers that is. Then again, there is a
bit of rocky road left and the wiff is out of town. Hmm, rocky road
has nuts (protein), milk,... hell, its even got some algae in it
(that's like a salad, right?).
Frank Reid

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Frank Reid typed:
What 'I' have been tying is a bunch a wooly buggers for Wolfgang, he
witnessed the efficacy of them at Grandfather Falls. I am also
bringing a bunch of buggers that I tie for the local
rivers....smallmouth.

I need to tie some buggers. I was actually putting away my tying kit
last night and drowning my sorrows in a half a gallon of Rocky Road.
I'll do that tonight. Tie the buggers that is. Then again, there is
a bit of rocky road left and the wiff is out of town. Hmm, rocky road
has nuts (protein), milk,... hell, its even got some algae in it
(that's like a salad, right?).

Ladies and gents, I give you the feminization of America. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

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Ladies and gents, I give you the feminization of America. ;-)

Hey, its ROCKY Road. Stelllllllaaaaaa!!!!!
Frank Reid