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Charlie Bress September 2nd, 2006 08:32 PM

Name this fish
 
This fish was caught in Sarasota Bay. This is located on the Gulf of Mexico
south of Tampa Florida.
The picture appeared in the newspaper this morning and it does not look like
a fish that is found here.
Several years ago, I saw one similar caught a little further south. At that
time nobody in the area knew what it was.
There is nothing like in the various local guide books.
The most unusual characteristic is the lips.

http://home.comcast.net/~cbress/fish.bmp

We get all sorts of stragglers here of all kinds: fish, fowl, reptile,
insect and human.

Charlie



Whatmeworry September 2nd, 2006 08:37 PM

Name this fish
 
Charlie Bress wrote:
This fish was caught in Sarasota Bay. This is located on the Gulf of Mexico
south of Tampa Florida.
The picture appeared in the newspaper this morning and it does not look like
a fish that is found here.
Several years ago, I saw one similar caught a little further south. At that
time nobody in the area knew what it was.
There is nothing like in the various local guide books.
The most unusual characteristic is the lips.

http://home.comcast.net/~cbress/fish.bmp

We get all sorts of stragglers here of all kinds: fish, fowl, reptile,
insect and human.

Charlie


rubber lip perch?

Musashi September 3rd, 2006 04:10 PM

Name this fish
 
Gerres erythrourus
Unfortunbately it is a fish native to Japam, Okinawa.
How it could end up in Florida is beyond me.
Here is a photo of a juvenile. Note the lip structure.
http://fishpix.kahaku.go.jp/fishimag...PHOTO_ID_OPT=2




Charlie Bress September 3rd, 2006 06:14 PM

Name this fish
 

"Musashi" wrote in message
m...
Gerres erythrourus
Unfortunbately it is a fish native to Japam, Okinawa.
How it could end up in Florida is beyond me.
Here is a photo of a juvenile. Note the lip structure.
http://fishpix.kahaku.go.jp/fishimag...PHOTO_ID_OPT=2


Well done!

A problem in Florida is created by people disposing of unwanted pets by
just letting them go into the wild.
Possibly someone removed them from an aquarium. We end up with a popuation
of non-native species of wildlife.

Thank you,
Charlie



Dan Logcher September 6th, 2006 01:41 PM

Name this fish
 
Musashi wrote:

Gerres erythrourus
Unfortunbately it is a fish native to Japam, Okinawa.
How it could end up in Florida is beyond me.
Here is a photo of a juvenile. Note the lip structure.
http://fishpix.kahaku.go.jp/fishimag...PHOTO_ID_OPT=2


Eaten as sushi?

--
Dan

Musashi September 6th, 2006 01:59 PM

Name this fish
 

"Dan Logcher" wrote in message
...
Musashi wrote:

Gerres erythrourus
Unfortunbately it is a fish native to Japam, Okinawa.
How it could end up in Florida is beyond me.
Here is a photo of a juvenile. Note the lip structure.

http://fishpix.kahaku.go.jp/fishimag...PHOTO_ID_OPT=2

Eaten as sushi?

--
Dan


Hi Dan. I've never seen this fish before in the fish markets in Japan, and
if it is native to Okinawa that is tropical waters
(like Florida). But, since it grows to about 10 inches length and is clearly
Tai-related (a member of the sea breams, sea perches)
it would clearly be a candidate for sushi/sashimi. I don't know to what
extent it may be utilized as a food fish down
in Okinawa and the islands in the area.
M



ShagRiderF6 September 8th, 2006 03:36 AM

Name this fish
 
where is japaM
"Musashi" wrote in message
m...
Gerres erythrourus
Unfortunbately it is a fish native to Japam, Okinawa.
How it could end up in Florida is beyond me.
Here is a photo of a juvenile. Note the lip structure.

http://fishpix.kahaku.go.jp/fishimag...PHOTO_ID_OPT=2






Musashi September 8th, 2006 04:45 PM

Name this fish
 

"ShagRiderF6" wrote in message
...
where is japaM


Same location as Japan when you hit the "m" key
instead of the "n" key next to it by accident.
Thank you for noticing.



Texx Smith September 14th, 2006 06:12 PM

Nope - It's actually a . .
 
That looks like a fish I see alot along coastal Florida. It's common name
is "Porgy" and tier's several different kinds. This is one of the most
common, perhaps even the most common.
http://images.google.com/images?q=po...=Search+Images



http://FloridaFishingInformation.com
http://FloridaPhotoGallery.com







"Musashi" wrote in message
m...
Gerres erythrourus
Unfortunbately it is a fish native to Japam, Okinawa.
How it could end up in Florida is beyond me.
Here is a photo of a juvenile. Note the lip structure.
http://fishpix.kahaku.go.jp/fishimag...PHOTO_ID_OPT=2






Charlie Bress September 15th, 2006 02:49 PM

Nope - It's actually a . .
 
Maybe not.
The fish in the original post as well as the one in the answer from Japan
have horizontal marking on the side.
All the varieties of porgy that I could find show vertical markings.

Also the mystery fish has prominent lips, almost like a sucker.
None of the porgies shown in Vic Dunaway's "Sport Fish of Florida" have lips
like this.

Charlie


"Texx Smith" wrote in message
...
That looks like a fish I see alot along coastal Florida. It's common name
is "Porgy" and tier's several different kinds. This is one of the most
common, perhaps even the most common.
http://images.google.com/images?q=po...=Search+Images



http://FloridaFishingInformation.com
http://FloridaPhotoGallery.com







"Musashi" wrote in message
m...
Gerres erythrourus
Unfortunbately it is a fish native to Japam, Okinawa.
How it could end up in Florida is beyond me.
Here is a photo of a juvenile. Note the lip structure.
http://fishpix.kahaku.go.jp/fishimag...PHOTO_ID_OPT=2








Musashi September 15th, 2006 05:25 PM

Nope - It's actually a . .
 
I checked every porgy, grunt, snapper found in Florida, Gulf of Mexico and
Caribbean waters
and found no species that matched the lip structure.
All porgies found in the US have an upper lip fold that runs over the entire
mouth or most of it.
The mystery fish has a small lip fold that is only at the lower end of the
mouth, a feature rather
unusual for porgies, snappers, grunts etc. Additionally, the mystery fish
also has pink rubbery lips, again unusual.
Oddball sal****er specimems can end up in faraway places not only due to
sal****er tropical fish enthusiasts
dumping fish in local waters, but also in the ballast water of ocean going
ships.
M

"Texx Smith" wrote in message
...
That looks like a fish I see alot along coastal Florida. It's common name
is "Porgy" and tier's several different kinds. This is one of the most
common, perhaps even the most common.
http://images.google.com/images?q=po...=Search+Images



http://FloridaFishingInformation.com
http://FloridaPhotoGallery.com







"Musashi" wrote in message
m...
Gerres erythrourus
Unfortunbately it is a fish native to Japam, Okinawa.
How it could end up in Florida is beyond me.
Here is a photo of a juvenile. Note the lip structure.

http://fishpix.kahaku.go.jp/fishimag...PHOTO_ID_OPT=2








Cliff September 18th, 2006 05:15 PM

Name this fish
 
When you catch an odd fish like that you ought to get a fin and scale
sample and take it to your local fish and game along with the picture.
They should be able to figure out a lot from the samples.


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"Charlie Bress" wrote in
:

This fish was caught in Sarasota Bay. This is located on the Gulf of
Mexico south of Tampa Florida.
The picture appeared in the newspaper this morning and it does not
look like a fish that is found here.
Several years ago, I saw one similar caught a little further south.
At that time nobody in the area knew what it was.
There is nothing like in the various local guide books.
The most unusual characteristic is the lips.

http://home.comcast.net/~cbress/fish.bmp

We get all sorts of stragglers here of all kinds: fish, fowl, reptile,
insect and human.

Charlie








[email protected] September 28th, 2006 08:18 PM

Name this fish
 

Charlie Bress wrote:
This fish was caught in Sarasota Bay. This is located on the Gulf of Mexico
south of Tampa Florida.
The picture appeared in the newspaper this morning and it does not look like
a fish that is found here.
Several years ago, I saw one similar caught a little further south. At that
time nobody in the area knew what it was.
There is nothing like in the various local guide books.
The most unusual characteristic is the lips.

http://home.comcast.net/~cbress/fish.bmp

We get all sorts of stragglers here of all kinds: fish, fowl, reptile,
insect and human.

Charlie


It's some type of mojarra (Family Gerreidae) It is related to the
Okinawawan fish mentioned, but it is a native Florida/Caribbean fish.


You caught a pretty big one. A foot is about the max found. They are
fairly common grassbed/mangrove fishes. Most you see are hand-sized or
less.

http://research.myfwc.com/gallery/im...s.asp?id=13415


http://www.floridafishandhunt.com/ar...sh-records.htm



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