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Bass in a Aquarium
My wife is a teacher at a highschool in Ontario, Canada. Does anyone
know if it's legal or possible to keep Largemouth bass and sunfish in a aquarium at her school. Would it be hard to keep or too messy? |
Bass in a Aquarium
"Muskoka Fisherman" wrote in message ps.com... My wife is a teacher at a highschool in Ontario, Canada. Does anyone know if it's legal or possible to keep Largemouth bass and sunfish in a aquarium at her school. Would it be hard to keep or too messy? They're not hard to keep, and they can be interesting. Just remember that little other than the bass will remain in the tank. Here in Wisconsin it is legal, but any bass in the aquarium do count towards your possession limit. In this state, the daily bag limit is 5 bass, the possession limit is 10 bass. So, if I have 2 bass in a tank, I can only catch/keep another 8 bass, but only 5 in one day. However, this is NOT the case if the bass were to be purchased from a pet store or fish hatchery. If I can produce a receipt showing the bass was "privately owned" prior to my possession, it does not count toward my possession limit. I would suggest that you talk to an area game warden as laws will change from region to region. What might be legal here might get your wife a nice fine in Ontario. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
Bass in a Aquarium
Muskoka Fisherman wrote:
My wife is a teacher at a highschool in Ontario, Canada. Does anyone know if it's legal or possible to keep Largemouth bass and sunfish in a aquarium at her school. Would it be hard to keep or too messy? It's legal in every state in the US I'm familiar with, once you catch a bass it's yours, the only rules is putting it in another body of water (another lake or river) they frown on, because of the possibility or transplanting a diseased fish. Of course the bass will end up eating the bream. I have a friend that put two little 3 inch large mouths in his aquarium, one day he came home, and there was just one, the other was just gone, the one remaining had a big grin on his face, and a really fat belly :-) -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
Bass in a Aquarium
In the regs there is a section on moving or transporting live fish. It
says something to the effect that a license (other than fishing license) is needed to ship or transport live fish other than baitfish. They have an information line. Another question what happens to the fish after you are done with it and where would it be released and to what body of water. Technically I would think that it would not be allowed. Muskoka Fisherman wrote: My wife is a teacher at a highschool in Ontario, Canada. Does anyone know if it's legal or possible to keep Largemouth bass and sunfish in a aquarium at her school. Would it be hard to keep or too messy? |
Bass in a Aquarium
Muskoka asked: Does anyone know if it's legal or possible to keep Largemouth bass and sunfish in a aquarium at his wife's school. Would it be hard to keep or too messy? Yes I know it is possible to keep a LM Bass and a sunfish in the same aquarium for some period of time if they are the same size. A weighted cover is needed or one or both may get out. Water will be splashed out and she will have to determine if it is too messy. The length of "some period of time" before the bass eats the sunfish may be measured in days and will depend on variables such as how much/little each are fed, how sick/well either is, how stressed/unstressed either is, etc. Yes I know it is not possible to keep a LM Bass and a sunfish in the same aquarium for some period of time if either is larger than the other. The larger the size differential of the two fish, the shorter time period the smaller will live. A weighted cover is required or one or both may get out. Water will be splashed out and she will have to determine if it is too messy. The length of "some period of time" may be measured in hours or minutes and will not depend as much on variables such as how much/little each are fed, how sick/well either is, how stressed/unstressed either is, etc. I do not know which would get eaten faster (a) big bass/little sunfish or (b) big sunfish/little bass, but I suspect (a). No I do not know if it is legal in your wife's school to attempt to keep Largemouth bass and sunfish in an aquarium. Good luck! John |
Bass in a Aquarium
"Rodney Long" wrote in message
... I have a friend that put two little 3 inch large mouths in his aquarium, Now I can tell you for sure that putting 3" bass in an aquarium ain't legal in too many states! Warren |
Bass in a Aquarium
WARREN WOLK wrote:
"Rodney Long" wrote in message ... I have a friend that put two little 3 inch large mouths in his aquarium, Now I can tell you for sure that putting 3" bass in an aquarium ain't legal in too many states! Warren Depends on where and how they are caught, of course they could be purchased "legally" from any licensed stocking company, in every state, and they can be removed (in any fashion, and size) from anyone's "own" private pond. Perhaps they have a transporting of live fish law in some states So just having them in an Aquarium, in any state, does not necessarily make it illegal, if they were taken illegally, then that is where the law was broken, not having them in an aquarium. It's true that many states have size limits on bass taken from public waters (mine is not one of them from "most" public waters, only just a few have size limits). I have never seen a law, in any state, that says you can't keep bass in an aquarium, If there is one, I would like to know which state, or states these are in effect. You see I do a few bass tub shows across the country, these are "bass" in aquariums, I plan on doing many of them next year, we are even talking about getting our own tub. I sure don't want to break any state game laws. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
Bass in a Aquarium
Generally if the fish was taken from a state's waters the minimum size
requirement would apply. Here in PA it's ok to have a pet bass, but it had better be 12" long. Any bass that you have in captivity also counts against your daily limit of 6 fish. So technically if you have 3 bass at home in your fishtank, then you're only allowed to keep 3 on the water. Silly yes, but the law nonetheless. As for getting them from a hatchery, here you must apply for & obtain a permit to stock any waters, and the sheer expense of obtaining such a permit would prohibit most folks from doing so just to get a few fingerlings for the old fishtank. Bass are pretty boring in a fishtank anyway, they pretty much stay idle & motionless (until feeding time), and they get very territorial much like tropical cichlids. The cool thing about housing them in tanks (especially "hawg troughs" or "tubs") is that they will eat almost anything when hungry, especially if several bass are present. Those tanks are a great means of selling lures to people that aren't aware of this. I once saw Shaw Grigsby tie his car key to a line &, you guessed it, they tore it up when tossed in the traugh. Lol... Warren ;-) "Rodney Long" wrote in message ... WARREN WOLK wrote: "Rodney Long" wrote in message ... I have a friend that put two little 3 inch large mouths in his aquarium, Now I can tell you for sure that putting 3" bass in an aquarium ain't legal in too many states! Warren Depends on where and how they are caught, of course they could be purchased "legally" from any licensed stocking company, in every state, and they can be removed (in any fashion, and size) from anyone's "own" private pond. Perhaps they have a transporting of live fish law in some states So just having them in an Aquarium, in any state, does not necessarily make it illegal, if they were taken illegally, then that is where the law was broken, not having them in an aquarium. It's true that many states have size limits on bass taken from public waters (mine is not one of them from "most" public waters, only just a few have size limits). I have never seen a law, in any state, that says you can't keep bass in an aquarium, If there is one, I would like to know which state, or states these are in effect. You see I do a few bass tub shows across the country, these are "bass" in aquariums, I plan on doing many of them next year, we are even talking about getting our own tub. I sure don't want to break any state game laws. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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WARREN WOLK wrote:
Warren you just want to argue. a person buying a couple of bass for an aquarium is not "stocking" a lake, and few states require a "stocking permit" for a private pond, only those money hungry states that try to "tax" everything do that. The cool thing about housing them in tanks (especially "hawg troughs" or "tubs") is that they will eat almost anything when hungry, especially if several bass are present. Those tanks are a great means of selling lures to people that aren't aware of this. I once saw Shaw Grigsby tie his car key to a line &, you guessed it, they tore it up when tossed in the traugh. Lol... Warren ;-) A "hungry" bass will hit anything moving, """"anywhere"""", even in the wild, I've had them hit a red and white round bobber, I've seen them caught on everything , including an old pop top, and a table spoon. I have also seen many, many, pro's , use every trick they knew, and their favorite lures and not get a bass to hit in a tub, not a single strike. This is especially true after the bass have been tricked by lures for hours, or even days. Anyone who has ever watched "many" tub demo's, has witnessed this, many times. Sure a few times the fish are on, but most of the time they are not. These fish come from the wild, at each location (wild to them anyway, as most are borrowed from stocking companies) then placed in a glass cage that they can see you, and the crowd, as well as people can see them, and they hear all the noises that are there. This must be quite a shock on them Most "pro's" explain that they are just scenery, in the tank, what they want to show is how lures act underwater, if a fish under those conditions actually strike, it's gravy on the steak. I've seen many top pros strike out, and I have seen bass hit anything thrown in the tank,, for a while, anyway. I would bet a key worked by many pros in any body of water could draw a strike every once in a while, when bass are hitting you can catch them on anything moving, and sometimes anything not moving. The trick is getting them to bite when they are not in the feeding mode. This is what fishermen want to learn how to do. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
Bass in a Aquarium
C.O. Did you catch any fish? Angler: Have a look see C.O.: Why are they still alive..bass and sunfish are not legal baitfish eh Angler: Going to put them in an aquarium C.O. eh I said they aren't baitfish or can i see your license for transporting these fish Angler eh C.O. You have the right to a lawyer........ Angler: eh C.O. your court date will be Dec 24 at 9 am in Maybury and explain it to his honour eh |
Bass in a Aquarium
Where do you see me being argumentative?
Bahhh... Warren "Rodney Long" wrote in message ... WARREN WOLK wrote: Warren you just want to argue. a person buying a couple of bass for an aquarium is not "stocking" a lake, and few states require a "stocking permit" for a private pond, only those money hungry states that try to "tax" everything do that. The cool thing about housing them in tanks (especially "hawg troughs" or "tubs") is that they will eat almost anything when hungry, especially if several bass are present. Those tanks are a great means of selling lures to people that aren't aware of this. I once saw Shaw Grigsby tie his car key to a line &, you guessed it, they tore it up when tossed in the traugh. Lol... Warren ;-) A "hungry" bass will hit anything moving, """"anywhere"""", even in the wild, I've had them hit a red and white round bobber, I've seen them caught on everything , including an old pop top, and a table spoon. I have also seen many, many, pro's , use every trick they knew, and their favorite lures and not get a bass to hit in a tub, not a single strike. This is especially true after the bass have been tricked by lures for hours, or even days. Anyone who has ever watched "many" tub demo's, has witnessed this, many times. Sure a few times the fish are on, but most of the time they are not. These fish come from the wild, at each location (wild to them anyway, as most are borrowed from stocking companies) then placed in a glass cage that they can see you, and the crowd, as well as people can see them, and they hear all the noises that are there. This must be quite a shock on them Most "pro's" explain that they are just scenery, in the tank, what they want to show is how lures act underwater, if a fish under those conditions actually strike, it's gravy on the steak. I've seen many top pros strike out, and I have seen bass hit anything thrown in the tank,, for a while, anyway. I would bet a key worked by many pros in any body of water could draw a strike every once in a while, when bass are hitting you can catch them on anything moving, and sometimes anything not moving. The trick is getting them to bite when they are not in the feeding mode. This is what fishermen want to learn how to do. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
Bass in a Aquarium
"Rodney Long" wrote in message ... WARREN WOLK wrote: Warren you just want to argue. a person buying a couple of bass for an aquarium is not "stocking" a lake, and few states require a "stocking permit" for a private pond, only those money hungry states that try to "tax" everything do that. The cool thing about housing them in tanks (especially "hawg troughs" or "tubs") is that they will eat almost anything when hungry, especially if several bass are present. Those tanks are a great means of selling lures to people that aren't aware of this. I once saw Shaw Grigsby tie his car key to a line &, you guessed it, they tore it up when tossed in the traugh. Lol... Warren ;-) A "hungry" bass will hit anything moving, """"anywhere"""", even in the wild, I've had them hit a red and white round bobber, I've seen them caught on everything , including an old pop top, and a table spoon. I have also seen many, many, pro's , use every trick they knew, and their favorite lures and not get a bass to hit in a tub, not a single strike. This is especially true after the bass have been tricked by lures for hours, or even days. Anyone who has ever watched "many" tub demo's, has witnessed this, many times. Sure a few times the fish are on, but most of the time they are not. These fish come from the wild, at each location (wild to them anyway, as most are borrowed from stocking companies) then placed in a glass cage that they can see you, and the crowd, as well as people can see them, and they hear all the noises that are there. This must be quite a shock on them Most "pro's" explain that they are just scenery, in the tank, what they want to show is how lures act underwater, if a fish under those conditions actually strike, it's gravy on the steak. I've seen many top pros strike out, and I have seen bass hit anything thrown in the tank,, for a while, anyway. I would bet a key worked by many pros in any body of water could draw a strike every once in a while, when bass are hitting you can catch them on anything moving, and sometimes anything not moving. The trick is getting them to bite when they are not in the feeding mode. This is what fishermen want to learn how to do. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com Most states want a stocking permit, to make sure what and where you are stocking. We had some Ahole out here stock Northern Pike in Lake Davis. Millions have been spent trying to eradicate them. The lakes feeds the Feather and Sacramento River system, and a $700 million fishing industry. Where the NP have gotten in the Alaskan River system, the rivers are devoid of salmon. |
Bass in a Aquarium
I think the permit thing applies in most states Bill, at least the ones
where the fisheries managers have brains. Warren "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Rodney Long" wrote in message ... WARREN WOLK wrote: Warren you just want to argue. a person buying a couple of bass for an aquarium is not "stocking" a lake, and few states require a "stocking permit" for a private pond, only those money hungry states that try to "tax" everything do that. The cool thing about housing them in tanks (especially "hawg troughs" or "tubs") is that they will eat almost anything when hungry, especially if several bass are present. Those tanks are a great means of selling lures to people that aren't aware of this. I once saw Shaw Grigsby tie his car key to a line &, you guessed it, they tore it up when tossed in the traugh. Lol... Warren ;-) A "hungry" bass will hit anything moving, """"anywhere"""", even in the wild, I've had them hit a red and white round bobber, I've seen them caught on everything , including an old pop top, and a table spoon. I have also seen many, many, pro's , use every trick they knew, and their favorite lures and not get a bass to hit in a tub, not a single strike. This is especially true after the bass have been tricked by lures for hours, or even days. Anyone who has ever watched "many" tub demo's, has witnessed this, many times. Sure a few times the fish are on, but most of the time they are not. These fish come from the wild, at each location (wild to them anyway, as most are borrowed from stocking companies) then placed in a glass cage that they can see you, and the crowd, as well as people can see them, and they hear all the noises that are there. This must be quite a shock on them Most "pro's" explain that they are just scenery, in the tank, what they want to show is how lures act underwater, if a fish under those conditions actually strike, it's gravy on the steak. I've seen many top pros strike out, and I have seen bass hit anything thrown in the tank,, for a while, anyway. I would bet a key worked by many pros in any body of water could draw a strike every once in a while, when bass are hitting you can catch them on anything moving, and sometimes anything not moving. The trick is getting them to bite when they are not in the feeding mode. This is what fishermen want to learn how to do. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com Most states want a stocking permit, to make sure what and where you are stocking. We had some Ahole out here stock Northern Pike in Lake Davis. Millions have been spent trying to eradicate them. The lakes feeds the Feather and Sacramento River system, and a $700 million fishing industry. Where the NP have gotten in the Alaskan River system, the rivers are devoid of salmon. |
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WARREN WOLK wrote: I think the permit thing applies in most states Bill, at least the ones where the fisheries managers have brains. Warren Maybe we lack in brains in Texas, or maybe we just hold on to what few freedoms we have left a little tighter. When you want some Florida-strain LM, or hybrid bluegill, or catfish, or minnows for your private tank anround here, you call the local ranch and feed store and ask them what day the fish truck comes by. Fish farmers have routes where they hit each community about once a month through the spring and summer. you buy what you want and take it home. After saying that, I will go on to say that I have no idea what regulations the fish farmers have to comply with. They may be restricted as to what species they can sell. Here's a link to one of the biggies: http://www.dunnsfishfarm.com/ I didn't find anything on the Texas parks and Wildlife site about permits, but they do provide information to help educate you on private pond/lake management. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/landwate...private_water/ |
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"Henry Hefner" wrote in message oups.com... WARREN WOLK wrote: I think the permit thing applies in most states Bill, at least the ones where the fisheries managers have brains. Warren Maybe we lack in brains in Texas, or maybe we just hold on to what few freedoms we have left a little tighter. When you want some Florida-strain LM, or hybrid bluegill, or catfish, or minnows for your private tank anround here, you call the local ranch and feed store and ask them what day the fish truck comes by. Fish farmers have routes where they hit each community about once a month through the spring and summer. you buy what you want and take it home. After saying that, I will go on to say that I have no idea what regulations the fish farmers have to comply with. They may be restricted as to what species they can sell. Here's a link to one of the biggies: http://www.dunnsfishfarm.com/ I didn't find anything on the Texas parks and Wildlife site about permits, but they do provide information to help educate you on private pond/lake management. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/landwate...private_water/ \ They probably have permits for certain types of fish. |
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On 17 Sep 2006 14:15:30 -0700, "Muskoka Fisherman"
puked: My wife is a teacher at a highschool in Ontario, Canada. Does anyone know if it's legal or possible to keep Largemouth bass and sunfish in a aquarium at her school. Would it be hard to keep or too messy? Just couldn't pass up pointing out that a Largemouth bass is, in fact, a sunfish itself... -- lab~rat :-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? |
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that's why the South is just being bombarded by non-native species. I think
FL has more non-natives than natives in the fisheries there. Warren "Calif Bill" wrote in message link.net... "Henry Hefner" wrote in message oups.com... WARREN WOLK wrote: I think the permit thing applies in most states Bill, at least the ones where the fisheries managers have brains. Warren Maybe we lack in brains in Texas, or maybe we just hold on to what few freedoms we have left a little tighter. When you want some Florida-strain LM, or hybrid bluegill, or catfish, or minnows for your private tank anround here, you call the local ranch and feed store and ask them what day the fish truck comes by. Fish farmers have routes where they hit each community about once a month through the spring and summer. you buy what you want and take it home. After saying that, I will go on to say that I have no idea what regulations the fish farmers have to comply with. They may be restricted as to what species they can sell. Here's a link to one of the biggies: http://www.dunnsfishfarm.com/ I didn't find anything on the Texas parks and Wildlife site about permits, but they do provide information to help educate you on private pond/lake management. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/landwate...private_water/ \ They probably have permits for certain types of fish. |
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