Which wading staff?
 

I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at some
point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of crap I
owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which one(s) would you
buy, and why?

Which wading staff?
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at some
point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of crap I
owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which one(s) would you
buy, and why?

http://tinyurl.com/yfa7pe

You can take the rubber tip off. Ironwood is hard enough that
you don't need it.

Which wading staff?
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at some
point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of crap I
owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which one(s) would you
buy, and why?

If I wanted to skip all the crap, I wouldn't buy anything.
When I need a wading staff I look around for a nice stout
stick, use it for the day then leave it next to the path
for the next guy.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Which wading staff?
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at some
point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of crap I
owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which one(s) would you
buy, and why?

I've only owned one, a Folstaff, and I've been unhesitatingly happy
with it. It folds up out of the way when I'm not using it & it's rock
solid when I am.

At the time I bought mine, there were two models and may still be. I
bought the larger diameter (3/4"). My buddy bought the 1/2" and was
sorry. He always felt it was too slender & he didn't trust it.

I've heard numerous negative testimonials here on ROFF about the
handles coming off, the elastic breaking, and the sections getting
stuck; but none of that has happened to mine.

Joe F.

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On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:11:34 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at some
point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of crap I
owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which one(s) would you
buy, and why?

If I wanted to skip all the crap, I wouldn't buy anything.

Yeah, sure, obviously you've no need, but how's that gonna help Joe?

When I need a wading staff I look around for a nice stout
stick,

And If he were you, that's exactly what he could do, too...

use it for the day then leave it next to the path
for the next guy.

Well, whaddayaknow...

I would have bet big you just stuck it back up your ass...

IAC, if a folding staff isn't necessary, a replaced ski pole makes a
good staff, and if you don't ski, they can be had for little or nothing
at charity shops all over N. America and lots of Europe. And a length
of heavy-walled PVC with a glued cap on one end and threaded cap on the
other makes a combo rod protector/staff.

TC,
R

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"rb608" wrote in news:1163628767.334051.175480
@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

I've only owned one, a Folstaff, and I've been unhesitatingly happy
with it. It folds up out of the way when I'm not using it & it's rock
solid when I am.


Ditto. You have to learn the trick about rolling the joint (so to speak)
against your knee should it lock, but overall a great product that requires
no thought or effort to deploy, which is the most important part.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

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On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at some
point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of crap I
owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which one(s) would you
buy, and why?

The same heavy-duty model (3/4" diameter tubing) Folstaff I've owned for a
decade or two...

/daytripper (and *don't wax the ferrules*, for the love of God! ;-)

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Which wading staff?
 

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"rb608" wrote in news:1163628767.334051.175480
@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

I've only owned one, a Folstaff, and I've been unhesitatingly happy
with it. It folds up out of the way when I'm not using it & it's rock
solid when I am.


Ditto. You have to learn the trick about rolling the joint (so to speak)
against your knee should it lock, but overall a great product that
requires
no thought or effort to deploy, which is the most important part.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Same here. Thanks for the "rolling the joint" trick to get the thing apart.
That is the only negative I have. The staff is at least 20 years old and I
don't know how long the stretch chord inside will last before it
deteriorates. So far, so good.

Guy

Which wading staff?
 

simms collapsible

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...

When I need a wading staff I look around for a nice stout
stick, use it for the day then leave it next to the path
for the next guy.

This works well enough half the time. I would rather
carry a piece of cedar or bamboo that I know the
strength of beforehand.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

Which wading staff?
 

On Nov 15, 4:55 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at some
point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of crap I
owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which one(s) would you
buy, and why?

Simms collapsible or Folstaff.

The Folstaff deploys almost instantly, but the Simms is sturdier. Both
are about the same price, so it depends on your needs.

Which wading staff?
 

"rb608" wrote in
oups.com:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff,
and
at some point said "I wish I bought this nice one before
those
pieces of crap I owned before". If you wanted to skip all the
crap, which one(s) would you buy, and why?

I've only owned one, a Folstaff, and I've been unhesitatingly
happy with it. It folds up out of the way when I'm not using
it &
it's rock solid when I am.

At the time I bought mine, there were two models and may still
be.
I bought the larger diameter (3/4"). My buddy bought the
1/2"
and was sorry. He always felt it was too slender & he didn't
trust it.

I've heard numerous negative testimonials here on ROFF about
the
handles coming off, the elastic breaking, and the sections
getting
stuck; but none of that has happened to mine.

Joe F.


I've had my Folstaff for about 15 years. Figuring it will extend
the life of the shock cord, I no longer fold it up when I've
finished using it for the day, except to drain the water out of
it. I shake it or tap it on the bumper of my car to create a
vibration which loosens the binding effect of the aluminum
joints. I separate the topmost joint, drain the water, then snap
it back together. It hasn't been in it's holster for five years.
rt

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"George Adams" wrote in message
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On Nov 15, 4:55 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at some
point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of crap I
owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which one(s) would you
buy, and why?




I use a Leki hiking / ski pole
I also put a ball head camera and quick release mount on it at times when
I use it as a monoopod for my camera

--
Fred

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On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:52:57 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
m...

When I need a wading staff I look around for a nice stout
stick, use it for the day then leave it next to the path
for the next guy.

This works well enough half the time. I would rather
carry a piece of cedar or bamboo that I know the
strength of beforehand.

And the other half of the time, sureofoot?

Which wading staff?
 

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:26:05 -0700, rw
wrote:

simms collapsible

The idiocy behind not only naming something such as a wading staff
"collapsible," but buying and recommending one is, hopefully,
self-evident...hey, YMMV...

Darwinianly yours,
R

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"Guy" wrote in message
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"rb608" wrote in news:1163628767.334051.175480
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I've only owned one, a Folstaff, and I've been unhesitatingly happy
with it. It folds up out of the way when I'm not using it & it's rock
solid when I am.


Ditto. You have to learn the trick about rolling the joint (so to speak)
against your knee should it lock, but overall a great product that
requires
no thought or effort to deploy, which is the most important part.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Same here. Thanks for the "rolling the joint" trick to get the thing
apart. That is the only negative I have. The staff is at least 20 years
old and I don't know how long the stretch chord inside will last before it
deteriorates. So far, so good.

You ought to be able to replace the shock cord if/when it breaks down. If
you don't know how, or don't have the right material, see if there is a
camping supply shop near you, as most tent poles are now shock corded. They
might have parts and/or knowhow.

--riverman

Which wading staff?
 

JoeSpareBedroom typed:
I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at
some point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of
crap I owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which
one(s) would you buy, and why?

I've been using a cheap knock-off of the folding Folstaff for six years now
and it still performs fine, and snaps together like when it was new. I
bought it at Kittery Trading Post in Maine. If I remember by the time I get
home, I'll see if the brand name is still readable on the holster.

I've never liked the idea of the collapsible staffs because of their
reliance on proper assembly and working parts. Mix a little sand in there
and collapsible is the key word. ;-) I've used a one-piece staff before,
but only for a short while. It was irritating to me to shift position in the
stream and have it in the way. YMMV.
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Guy" wrote in
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"rb608" wrote in
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I've only owned one, a Folstaff, and I've been unhesitatingly happy
with it. It folds up out of the way when I'm not using it & it's
rock solid when I am.


Ditto. You have to learn the trick about rolling the joint (so to
speak) against your knee should it lock, but overall a great product
that requires
no thought or effort to deploy, which is the most important part.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Same here. Thanks for the "rolling the joint" trick to get the thing
apart. That is the only negative I have. The staff is at least 20
years old and I don't know how long the stretch chord inside will last
before it deteriorates. So far, so good.

Guy



I'm pretty sure the company replaces the cord for free if you send it in.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Which wading staff?
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at some
point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of crap I
owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which one(s) would you
buy, and why?

Put me down as being in love with my Leki walking stick. It saved
me from possible serious trouble in Nawth Cackalacky last year, and I
haven't gone out without it since. It telescopes down to less than 3',
has a camera mount, confortable grip, and "shock absorber" feel to it.

I attach it to my vest with one of those magnetic net releases, and
when I'm wading and fishing I just let it dangle in the water behind me
where it's ready when I need it.

As Richard noted, you could just use a ski pole, but I really like
the added advantage of the camera mount, and the fact that it telescopes.


Chuck Vance (no affiliation, etc.)

Which wading staff?
 

"rb608" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at some
point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of crap I
owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which one(s) would you
buy, and why?

I've only owned one, a Folstaff, and I've been unhesitatingly happy
with it. It folds up out of the way when I'm not using it & it's rock
solid when I am.

At the time I bought mine, there were two models and may still be. I
bought the larger diameter (3/4"). My buddy bought the 1/2" and was
sorry. He always felt it was too slender & he didn't trust it.

I've heard numerous negative testimonials here on ROFF about the
handles coming off, the elastic breaking, and the sections getting
stuck; but none of that has happened to mine.

Joe F.


If it's opened up, but you're not using it, does it float? Or is that not a
feature I should focus on?

No laughing. I just began looking at these things, and very little so far.
But, an "almost" at a creek last week got me thinking. A lot.

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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"Guy" wrote in
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"rb608" wrote in
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I've only owned one, a Folstaff, and I've been unhesitatingly happy
with it. It folds up out of the way when I'm not using it & it's
rock solid when I am.


Ditto. You have to learn the trick about rolling the joint (so to
speak) against your knee should it lock, but overall a great product
that requires
no thought or effort to deploy, which is the most important part.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Same here. Thanks for the "rolling the joint" trick to get the thing
apart. That is the only negative I have. The staff is at least 20
years old and I don't know how long the stretch chord inside will last
before it deteriorates. So far, so good.

Guy



I'm pretty sure the company replaces the cord for free if you send it in.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Scott, have you ever fished Marshall Creek, out by Oak Orchard?

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at some
point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of crap I
owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which one(s) would you
buy, and why?

If I wanted to skip all the crap, I wouldn't buy anything.
When I need a wading staff I look around for a nice stout
stick, use it for the day then leave it next to the path
for the next guy.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Great idea, except when you're in a place where there are no stout sticks.

Which wading staff?
 

"George Adams" wrote in message
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On Nov 15, 4:55 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at some
point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of crap I
owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which one(s) would you
buy, and why?

Simms collapsible or Folstaff.

The Folstaff deploys almost instantly, but the Simms is sturdier. Both
are about the same price, so it depends on your needs.


I need a stick that will deploy automatically after sensing my alarm at
losing my footing. Then, I want it to dispense two helium ballons under my
armpits, float me to safety, pour me a bourbon, and while I'm sipping,
detect the nearest 10 fish and identify what kind they are.

Barring all this, just a sturdy stick will do.

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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"rb608" wrote in
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I've only owned one, a Folstaff, and I've been unhesitatingly
happy with it. It folds up out of the way when I'm not using it &
it's rock solid when I am.


Ditto. You have to learn the trick about rolling the joint (so to
speak) against your knee should it lock, but overall a great
product that requires
no thought or effort to deploy, which is the most important part.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Same here. Thanks for the "rolling the joint" trick to get the thing
apart. That is the only negative I have. The staff is at least 20
years old and I don't know how long the stretch chord inside will
last before it deteriorates. So far, so good.

Guy



I'm pretty sure the company replaces the cord for free if you send it
in.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Scott, have you ever fished Marshall Creek, out by Oak Orchard?




No. I tend not to get out as far west as the Oak, actually.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in news:VE%6h.5661$ya1.819
@news02.roc.ny:

I need a stick that will deploy automatically after sensing my alarm at
losing my footing.

I think that's the biggest advantage of the Folstaff over the Simms. The
Simms is very nice, very lightweight, no elements to degrade over time, and
very easy to break down, but not as self-deploying in a panic as the
Folstaff

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"rb608" wrote in
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I've only owned one, a Folstaff, and I've been unhesitatingly
happy with it. It folds up out of the way when I'm not using it &
it's rock solid when I am.


Ditto. You have to learn the trick about rolling the joint (so to
speak) against your knee should it lock, but overall a great
product that requires
no thought or effort to deploy, which is the most important part.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Same here. Thanks for the "rolling the joint" trick to get the thing
apart. That is the only negative I have. The staff is at least 20
years old and I don't know how long the stretch chord inside will
last before it deteriorates. So far, so good.

Guy



I'm pretty sure the company replaces the cord for free if you send it
in.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Scott, have you ever fished Marshall Creek, out by Oak Orchard?




No. I tend not to get out as far west as the Oak, actually.

--
Scott

I went for the first time last week. Didn't fish the big river. We sort of
accidentally ended up at Marshall, via a wrong turn. That creek is GORGEOUS,
and easy to wade. Mostly smooth rock and not at all slippery for some
reason. Browns & steelhead haven't come in yet, for reasons nobody could
explain. My partner alarmed a huge salmon, which scrambled about 100 feet in
2 seconds, across a shallow rock flat that was only half the depth of the
fish's body. Made a wake like a jet ski. Amazing.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
If it's opened up, but you're not using it, does it float? Or is that not
a feature I should focus on?

Mine came with an attachment cord that ties conveniently to my wader belt.
Coincidentally enough, however, my son was using it on our last trip north,
and didn't tie it on. I was wading down the river & came across a
half-floating Folstaff hung up on some rocks. It was mine.

Joe F.

Which wading staff?
 

Thanks, everyone, for your advice.

Which wading staff?
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"rb608" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
I assume some of you have owned more than one wading staff, and at some
point said "I wish I bought this nice one before those pieces of crap I
owned before". If you wanted to skip all the crap, which one(s) would you
buy, and why?

I've only owned one, a Folstaff, and I've been unhesitatingly happy
with it. It folds up out of the way when I'm not using it & it's rock
solid when I am.

At the time I bought mine, there were two models and may still be. I
bought the larger diameter (3/4"). My buddy bought the 1/2" and was
sorry. He always felt it was too slender & he didn't trust it.

I've heard numerous negative testimonials here on ROFF about the
handles coming off, the elastic breaking, and the sections getting
stuck; but none of that has happened to mine.

Joe F.


If it's opened up, but you're not using it, does it float? Or is that not a
feature I should focus on?

No laughing. I just began looking at these things, and very little so far.
But, an "almost" at a creek last week got me thinking. A lot.

You may find this of interest;
http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/staff.htm

TL
MC